| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/11/2008 5:37:07 PM | I started talking to someone recently from this site and he didn't want to meet in public. He wanted to come to my place to watch videos. I told him no. Every time we talked he wanted to come to my house. I asked him why he insisted on coming to my house. He said he was not insisting and he was not a freak. I beg to differ! I don't talk to him anymore. I thought that was a weird request for a first date and meeting and we have not even talked on the phone very much anyway! Everyone needs to be careful out here! | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/11/2008 7:39:39 PM | Yeah I'm amazed that anyone would suggest that as a first date, but I have had friends that this happened too....
There is no way in He!! that I would allow a man I do not know come to my house... why do they even ask such a thing??? | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/12/2008 2:05:48 AM | This is exactly WHY I like to have a ring around that looks like a wedding ring... Oops me and my HUSBAND decided to work things out after all, He will be here anytime, Hurry he will kill you if he sees you here ! ( panic in tone, looking nervous ) we had some problems I should have told you, he's a body builder and has anger management problems from the steroids etc. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/12/2008 9:20:24 PM | Way to go Beedo. Number 1 rule always try to keep the upper hand and do not ever panic. My next statement will get me beat up but here goes...arm yourselves ladies. If you are so allowed to by your country or states laws. Learn how to shoot! Get your "concealed to carry" license, if allowed, and let these abusers know that you are not scared of firearms or the knowledge to use them. Without victims these men are helpless. Why do I feel like this because it also happened to me about 20 years ago. I also foolishly allowed someone into my home that I had not known long. After a couple of firm no sex on my part I knew that I was going to be raped. Instead of panicking I politely asked him if I could please adorn my sexy lingerie, while panic stricken but maintaining, I returned with my weapon ordered him out the door never to be seen again. I am not being a hypocrite that doesn't think one day I can not be blind sided but if my the grace of god, maintaining my whits, and S&W I will see my grandbabies grow up! Peace to all in this ever changing world. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/12/2008 9:51:40 PM | .....I have also been on the recieving line of this demented communication...yrs ago,physically defending my self.....a restraining order issue w an ex and lately a POF tea date....a simple matter of me declining a ph.no. request and a nice good bye but....BINGO....showing up with 3 different profiles suggesting more...in a lewd way..luckily, no in person appearances............a warning for sure!  | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/12/2008 10:01:00 PM | Thank you for all that have paid attention to this... There are certainly many scenarios of "could have", "should have" situations. To address the few who asked why I answered the door...(and I do have the peep hole) I was pissed that he had the audasity to show up at my door and I was going to let him know. Oh sure I could have remained safe and called the cops to haul away a faceless perp, but decided to cover my ass and draw as much attention as I could to the situation and make his face known....geez...do some not understand the concept of being in control of their life? Amazing responses here....and I can certainly see how many choose to remain the "victim". I choose not to be in that situation...thank you very much. I chose to make the most noise that I could and draw attention to the loser and I certainly checked it out that he was not bradishing a weapon...I am not totally stupid, but simply played on his ignorance and took control of the situation. For those of you who can understand that...thank you. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/12/2008 10:05:30 PM |
My next statement will get me beat up... Not by me you won't. Great post. You are an inspiration to all who are hesitant to responsibly defend their right to enjoy freedom and safety in society to get off their butts and empower themselves. Hell some guys even find that to be an attractive trait in a woman. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/20/2008 2:43:35 PM | I also have a hard time believing that this really happpened, since earlier on this same day the op had posted in another thread about.. When is being a stalker ok? Then all of a sudden, the same night she has been stalked! lmao Just sounds wayyyy to fishy for me! Wondering now that since I have posted in a stalker thread if I will end up with my own personal stalker now? lol Think I will stay away from any more threads about stalkers!!!! :) hehehe  | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/20/2008 4:22:59 PM |
kittygotclaws on 1/6/2008 7  30 PM Subject: Oh....My....Gawd! Message: A piece of advise to all my fellow POFers this evening. I met a guy Friday afterwork for Happy Hour. Seemingly nice enough, good conversation, and was home by 7:00 p.m. with a pretty good feeling about the meet. Saturday, we spoke again online and talked about meeting again this next Friday for drinks again
I read all her stories in the part where she was stalked. #1:Her stalkers not going to stick around for the cops after her telling her neighbor to call cops. #2: It's dark in Missouri at 7 pm so if he ducked around a corner how would he see who was pulling out of a parking lot and know who was in what car after dark. #3:How would he see her plates after dark unless his lights was shinning right on her personal license plate? #4:Why would he show up at her door if everything was going smooth and they had plans of another meeting? #5:How would he know what door to knock on at the appartment building? #6:He did nothing physical to her and the cops are not going to arrest him on her word alone especially since in her original post she said he looked and seemed normal and seen no red flags. #7:The cops would probly laugh soon as she said she met him on the internet and probly just tell the guy to go home and warn him not to come back around. #8:She just met him an there had been no prior complaints or phone calls to the police station. #9:She said in her posting I included in her quote above she posted this on the 6th of january so that would have made her meeting with her date between 5pm and 7pm on the 4th of january. Ok well now if you click on her history she was posting in the forums at that time and responding to early posts thinking igor or someone about their responce in an earlier posting.. """"BUSTED""""" I she is a liar and wishes someone would stalk her. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/20/2008 11:23:29 PM | Gee, second thread tonight where I found the person wasn't telling the truth oh well.
I do think that the answers on here are great. Although I didn't want to have a gun in my handbag, because of what I learnt about it being turned on me, the gun in the house does seem different. I think that a woman living by herself, that really may be a good thing to do. Of course a gun safety course is good for anyone regardless of owning a gun.
Geuss I am glad the op wasn't found out too soon or some of these great tips wouldn't be on here. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/21/2008 1:23:56 AM | Happy, never mind the bat.... as my dad used to say.... "Split a man's skull with a .45, if he's still standing, walk around behind him, see what's propping him up!" Stalkers give us decent sorts (Male or female) a bad name. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/21/2008 10:24:59 AM |
Disableddan wrote:Happy, never mind the bat.... as my dad used to say.... "Split a man's skull with a .45, if he's still standing, walk around behind him, see what's propping him up
I find it rather disturbing that some of the guys (and women)on here seem to think resorting to violence talking about base ball bats and guns seems to be nessesary. I would guess that most of the stalking so as people cry about is nothing more than a player (male/female) has lead someone on and then played with someones feelings and emotions and the person thats supposedly stalked is nothing more than a player that played too long. And the stalker is nothing more than someone that got played and got their feelings hurt. If a woman or man is not insterested in someone they should quit playing the string along game. People should be honest and upfront and use a little communication. I'm sure if Kittengotclaws would have simply been up front and told him she was only after some weinie in the first place she might not have gotten any weinie but she wouldn't have had him showing up at her door either (if it even happend) Jim does have some good pointers there. But I still want to hear a come back form Kittengotclaws. Liars always get caught in the end. I'll have to check the history out and see if she really was on here posting on the forums before I decide if it's a BS story or true. But he's certainly got some good pointers that jim guy. Ok I'm off to check kittygotclaws history.I might stop back in and make another posting of my thoughts. IT WILL ONLY BE MY OPINION,DOESN'T MEAN IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/21/2008 10:49:48 AM | | Wow just goes to show there are some scary people out there.....Glad to hear you are alright OP.....Be glad at least he did this before you got serious or something ...Some people don't find out until later that their other half is nutty-butters ..... | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/22/2008 11:26:14 PM | | One4, you need a serious reality check.... I was a cabdriver in detroit for about 5 years, and if I told you how many times I saw this sort of thing, you flat wouldn't believe me.... but it would be the god's honest truth! I drove many such women to a battered women's shelter, and had to throw numerous such stalkers off my tail, by the way.... I had my dispatcher call the cops to pull these punks over more times than I care to recall, and some of those women had bruises on them I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.... and some of their stories were far more horrific than kitten's. Do you have any clue how many women are raped, beaten, abused, or murdered every year by psychos like the one kitten described? I doubt it... but it happens far too often, and it gives us normal, decent men a very bad name indeed. As for "resorting to violence" being somehow wrong.... what, is she supposed to call the cops? Hell, she could very easily be dead by the time they show up! Every woman who has ever been in a serious relationship with me has been trained to responsibly and safely handle a firearm, as it is their Constituionally Guaranteed right to do so. .. or did you miss that part of civics class? As far as I'm concerned, an ounce of preperation is worth a ton of regrets.... and nobody in their right mind would deny a woman the right to defend herself from an obviously dangerous man who needs a serious round of psychiatric evaluation, as this joker obviously did. And what is the most effective form of self defense for a woman? A firearm. As for not believing kitten's story? Ask any uniformed police officer in any major city in this country, he'll tell you he sees it every single day. So keep your insulting tone to yourself, and I believe you owe kitten an apology, while you're at it. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/22/2008 11:33:53 PM | | wow guys like that give us good ones a tarnished name i hope he gets the book yhrown at him as for u glad u are ok and u had a nosey neighbor | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/23/2008 3:04:36 AM |
Dissableddan Wrote:As for not believing kitten's story? Ask any uniformed police officer in any major city in this country, he'll tell you he sees it every single day. So keep your insulting tone to yourself, and I believe you owe kitten an apology, while you're at it. I'm not going to argue with you Dan,, I will ask that you read a few earlier posts .I believe it is MSG #109 and read carefully.Then possibly do a little checking into things before you go flipping out on me. I'll just say it now.. Jim told you so.. And now I'm saying it.. I told you so. I'm thinking it could be a bit too much thinking for you to figure it out. But give it a shot.  You might even go back and re-read my earlier post.. I'm not so sure your grasping whats even been typed in earlier posts. Unless she took her laptop with her at happy hour and was making posts in the forums while sitting in the club in his presints then it's only make belief Do a little detective work,, You sound like an agry person Dan,, I hope you don't own a gun.. This is an open forum for people to write their opinions on things. I suppose if everyone kept their opinions to themselves like your demanding I do.. Then I guess the forums would not exist. So I'll not keep my "as you call it".{quote]Dissableddan wrote:So keep your insulting tone to yourself, and I believe you owe kitten an apology, while you're at it Haha this is almost as good as a cat fight Come on Dan,, read Jims earlier post and let it sink in and follow instructions. lol. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/23/2008 7:45:29 AM | MSG 82
Ted Bundy comes to mind....... Charming, handsome, educated.... a real "catch". Ted Bundy still lived in his parents basement up to the day he was arrested.People that knew him said he was strange.His own parents even said he was strange in interviews.Neighbors said he was strange. Well sometimes strange isn't always a bad strange. I know some people that are strange and different. But some people are strange in good ways. Umm The Tedster Bundy was not a good strange. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/23/2008 3:17:20 PM | ""Do you have any clue how many women are raped, beaten, abused, or murdered every year""
just for clarities sake, for anyone who still is vague on it,,, ONE IN FOUR WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES WILL BE ON THE RECIEVING END OF ABUSE AT SOME TIME IN HER LIFE. and those are numbers from the reported cases, imagine how many go unreported and uncounted? | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/23/2008 4:20:25 PM | On the same day she started this thread she had responded to another thread that very same morning talking about stalkers.
kittygotclaws Joined: 12/29/2007 Msg: 18 (view) When is being a stalker ok?Posted: 1/6/2008 8  28 AM Later that evening Kittygotclaws started this thread and oh what a coincidence,Poor Kittygotclaws was stalked (so she said) In her OP opening Spot light dayview she said :
I met a guy Friday afterwork for Happy Hour,and was home by 7:00 p.m. So that Friday before would have been 1/4/08.If you look in kittygotclaws history you will see she was posing on the forums on 1/4/08
kittygotclaws Joined: 12/29/2007 Msg: 6 (view) Your success rate with desired men in bars Posted: 1/4/2008 5  51 PM
kittygotclaws Joined: 12/29/2007 Msg: 11 (view) Esteem. As a choice. Posted: 1/4/2008 7  24 PM Keep in mind she posted on a few different threads that day. An normally someone doesn't just pick a post at random to respond to.Normally a person would read and few and decide to respond to one after they found one that was of interest to them. Come on get real. Wake up and smell the coffee. I read all her stories in the part where she was stalked. #1:Her stalkers not going to stick around for the cops after her telling her neighbor to call cops. #2: It's dark in Missouri at 7 pm so if he ducked around a corner how would he see who was pulling out of a parking lot and know who was in what car after dark. #3:How would he see her plates after dark unless his lights was shinning right on her personal license plate? #4:Why would he show up at her door if everything was going smooth and they had plans of another meeting? #5:How would he know what door to knock on at the appartment building? #6:He did nothing physical to her and the cops are not going to arrest him on her word alone especially since in her original post she said he looked and seemed normal and seen no red flags. #7:The cops would probly laugh soon as she said she met him on the internet and probly just tell the guy to go home and warn him not to come back around. #8:She just met him an there had been no prior complaints or phone calls to the police station. #9:She said in her posting I included in her quote above she posted this on the 6th of january so that would have made her meeting with her date between 5pm and 7pm on the 4th of january. Ok well now if you click on her history she was posting in the forums at that time and responding to early posts thinking igor or someone about their responce in an earlier posting.. """"BUSTED""""" #10:Now I notice she has hidden her profile from being seen in a serch. #11:She certainly seemed pretty calm about posting it in here considering she posted this just right after the cops supposedly took her stalker to jail.  I think people like Kittygotclaws puts the fear into people that logs onto the internet.I would guess more people have harm done to them that met in a bar than on the internet. The part that got me thinking was when she said he just stayed there after she told the neighbor to call the cops.. And besides. How many of you people think someone could tag you around all over your town and you not notice someone was following you? First time I did a serch on her from reading this story I pulled her profile up and hooterville, I clicked on all the people that was in 50 miles from kitty and everyone was close to Kirksville,Missouri. So I did the shortest serch possible which I think is a 5 miles serch and "BINGO" Kittygotclaws poped up in the serch. I then went to newpaperlinks.com and pulled up Kirksville,Missouri. Read that paper from that day on till yesterday,, Nowhere did I see about anyone getting arrested for stalking. And thats the way new papers lists it . I would guess she's having a problem digging herself out of this whole. She's pretty smart I can tell by her grammar an spelling and certain words she uses that some people would not know the meaning of. But I think she dug herself in too deep this time :modhammer: | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/23/2008 6:26:09 PM | | I would have acted totally freakin crazy and scared the hell out of him. I mean scary crazy. It works. He would have been scared and freaked out. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/23/2008 6:29:23 PM | | Jim, it is amazing that people are still aren't reading the whole thread to know the truth...yeah, kewl that there are some good prevention skills on here now, but why aren't people reading how this story is just that a story? | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/24/2008 8:50:47 AM | Exactly! Exactly the reason Im not on here to date and I dont give out personal information...people can empathize but until youve been through this, you dont understand.
I hope the restraining order helps and he honors it. A piece of advice: he will probably leave you be for awhile, dont ever let your guard down...calm before the storm and all that. I wish you LOTS of luck Kitty! | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/24/2008 11:53:00 PM | | Yankette, don't count on a restraining order.... they're worth slightly less than the paper they're written on, because you're counting on the police to enforce them, which means they have to leave the safety of their speed traps and donut shops. I've been criticized for saying this, but I stand by it, and it bears repeating.... exercize your Constitutionally guaranteed right... keep a pistol or even better, a shotgun handy, and don't be afraid to use it, should the necessity arise. Usually, you won't have to pull the trigger, just showing these punks that you're ready and capable of defending yourself is sufficient to remind them of an 'urgent prior engagement' far away from you. Self defense is the oldest and most basic human right-it goes all the way back to when man was little more than a slightly less hairy ape and still lived in caves, and being prepared to do so only makes sense in this day and age.... and as for whiny liberals who think 'violence only begets violence' and 'brute force never solved anything' .... ask them again after they've been mugged, beaten, or raped. and let me add this... I once drove for a cab company that was under contract to a battered women's shelter.... I can't tell you the exact percentage of those bruised victims that had restraining orders against the men who brutalized them, but I'd be willing to bet it was somwhere between 60-75% Waving around that useless piece of paper is like waving a red flag in front of an angry bull. So go to a good, reputable gunshop, take a firearms safety course, learn what your local laws are, and be prepared to stand up for yourself.... because there are damned few people out there who will do it for you. Only a fool would tell you otherwise. | |
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/25/2008 12:05:02 AM |
Jim, it is amazing that people are still aren't reading the whole thread to know the truth...yeah, kewl that there are some good prevention skills on here now, but why aren't people reading how this story is just that a story?
Well, I won't speak to this being just a story made up by someone, or if it is the actual series of events and the evidence is misleading, either is true.
A few statistics to keep in mind.
Wikipedia has between 3500 and 8000 items a month found to be erroneous.
In California alone, there is a rape every 17 minutes (or less, my stats are a few years out of date)
For every scary story from the internet that you hear about, there are an estimated 25 successful marriages, and no one is sure about successful relationships (the numbers are harder to tack)
Adult Friend Finder (an on-line swinger/dating site) has over 30 contacts with law enforcement per quarter.
What does this all lead up to?
Be careful, the world is in fact a scary place.
Be even more careful about what you read/hear on or about the internet, it is a big fat juicy target for ever freak and slow news night that exists.
Just a few idle thoughts.
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| Oh....My....Gawd! Posted: 1/25/2008 12:32:13 AM | I notice ~OP~ deleted her profile. First time I read the original first post I knew it was too full of holes. People don't read these threads careful enough.I would guess this is a woman that's in a high possition as far as her job.Her grammar is near perfect other than the 3 or 4 dots at the end of each sentence....Take note of these dots.... I seen another profile on here a while back that the grammar was perfect and the spelling and the dots was there...000Missy000....Some of the words used and the wording is what caught my eye.The same day 000missy000 was deleted was the same day Kittygotclaws was created.. hummmmmmmmm This woman is a "WOLF" dressed in "SHEEPS" clothing. PS:I shouldn't have mentioned the dots.She will read this under another profile and stop putting the dots in and will make it harder to figure her out. :modhammer: | |
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