| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 1/10/2008 11:18:51 AM | Im posting here mainly because Im stalking Mr Dynomite but
I provide protection!!!  What did you say your cell # was again? | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 1/11/2008 11:03:15 PM | I can be both but..
I'm not an expert but....
Aren't relationships like a partnership? Taking care of and providing for eachother ? I don't believe in relationships being a one way street Ladies, it's "we" not "I" It's 2008 I expect a woman should be able to pull her own weight in a relationship. If I'm the one providing ALL the protection and all the money I don't have a girlfriend.
I have a child.
I believe in gender equality but that's just me. | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 1/13/2008 7:08:17 PM | | If he was much older, he was probably saying something much wiser than his words. He might have been telling you the traits that he felt a real man must have. It might even be that protector(to horde) is meant as a negative here and provider(to give) is the positive. But radio personalities are know to throw interesting one liners out of nowhere so who knows... | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 1/14/2008 11:39:37 PM |
It might even be that protector(to horde) is meant as a negative here and provider(to give) is the positive
thank you...insight i needed to 'see'....thank you | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 1/15/2008 12:19:27 AM | I understand exactly what you are saying.
I have values that are considered "old fashioned" by today's world. I don't believe anyone else needs to believe how I believe, but I do like the traditional gender roles.
Furthermore, they are still a 50/50 partnership as they've always been. A caretaker, mother, housekeeper and a protector/provider. Or if two people want to reverse those roles, more power to them.
Families seem overwhelmed by both Mom and Dad doing it all. I'm surprised more guys don't see the advantages to the "old system." | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 1/15/2008 7:09:52 AM | I agree with Zain . . .
Aren't relationships like a partnership? Taking care of and providing for eachother ? I don't believe in relationships being a one way street Ladies, it's "we" not "I" It's 2008 I expect a woman should be able to pull her own weight in a relationship.
It is a all about partnership. I don't "need" Protection or Provision, but there are some areas that I want it. We all have weaknesses after all, and in partnership hopefully we become stronger together by seeing what it is that our partner lacks (either through conversation or observation) and doing our best to fill the gap. In this way we become entwined in relationship.
If we are to never let down our guard of "Protection or Provision" only for ourselves, then there can be no partnership. Yes, she needs to bring something to the table too, but keep in mind, her offerings will be a different set then yours. That's the way it is supposed to be, and it is in the act of negotiation that long-term relationships are built. | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 1/19/2008 7:42:48 PM | Men are you a Protector or Provider...ok then...from all posts thus far, fair to say 'the times are a changing'?
I think of grandpa and how he was, both. During Oaklahoma dustbowl, just like that movie Grapes of Wrath, gaathered up grandma and the 6 kids...ran for their lives.
Then, in Ca, began the providing for family. He use to buy houses, tear um down, use every scrap from teardown...build new home..better...resell...buy another...same thing.
My dad (his son) i'd say is a provider...nothing to protect..? maybe thats it? if ur not in an environment where protection is more privilent, then the provider in u becomes more prominent..?
my brother...provider..for 2 ex's all their kids, and he's exhausted!! wonder if the two P's need each other.
know what im saying? cant quite get the words together here | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 2/26/2008 11:03:00 AM | I've decided, I want a man who has both qualities. I want to feel safe and cared for, and when I feel that way, better believe, he will too.
I'll 'have his back', and provide the 'other' necessities.  | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 2/26/2008 11:13:54 AM | | I’m neither, nor do I care to be either. I thought women where “strong” and “independent“ and didn’t need a man for anything (or so I’ve been told repeatedly). Way would any “modern” women want these features in a man after telling us you don’t want them? | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 2/26/2008 12:41:44 PM | | The phrase is men are either lovers or providers. This phrase is perpetuated by women. The misconception is that a man cannot be both, and this is how many women justify their affairs. This is also why a lot of women are attracted to bad boys but end up settling down with a good guy in the end. The bad boy is the lover. He gets the girl all revved up, sexed up, and then does her wrong, whereas the provider is always there for her. He may not be the sexually charged animal she lusts but he's safe. But even this argument I think can be squashed because many of us are both equally and I think a real man needs to be both. The bad boy or the nice guy is only half the man if he is ONLY a provider or ONLY a lover. | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 7/26/2008 7:27:23 AM | I agree if you provide then you will instinctivley protect, man or woman.
How the hell do women ever provide or protect? Sounds like bs.
Its a myth that women are the softer sex. Most are ruthless and selfish on levels men can never understand. Men are the ones who built society, help others, have honor, integrity, are compassionate etc. Men should feel just as protected as women if not more (on an emotional level).
In the days of the cave man the men did everything outside the cave. Hunting, wars, and most of the gathering too. Mostly because men didn't suffer from either extreme heat or extreme cold the way women did.
You know nothing do you? Women did all the gathering, women were responsible for the fishing, women hunted small animal for clothes, women assisted in making weapons, women scouted information related to hunting, women did house repairs and women still assisted with a bit of the hunting.
I believe this provider/protector stuff is total bs. Should be roles played by both men and women and they have been since the beginning of the time. Till society decided to change evolution.
Here's what I found about the man being the provider on another website
"No, it's actually a relatively "new" concept.
In hunter-gatherer societies, *both* sexes provided food. The men hunted for meat. The women gathered edible plants, fruits, nuts, tubers and berries. Hunting was a difficult job, as the men depended on stone and wood tools and their own wits. Most days, they couldn't kill anything, or they would be gone for long periods of time stalking game. So, the group depended on women for their day-to-day sustenance.
The idea of women staying in the home and raising the children while men go out to work really didn't get into full swing until the industrial revolution in the nineteenth century. For most of history, women's labor has been necesary for survival. Women have worked side-by-side with their men in the fields and taking care of livestock. Women also took part in "household production" - meaning, they would make things (clothes, wool, beer, etc.) in their homes both for their families use, and to sell to make some money.
The long and short of it being, the whole "men as bread-winner" thing has been a flash in the pan idea as far as history is concerned, and it is now on its way out."
However I don't believe in too much tradition. I think women should at least be the greater emotional protector since most men have no other real outlets to release emotional stress. So I'm both as long as the woman is both and she needs to be the greater emotional protector.
I've decided, I want a man who has both qualities. I want to feel safe and cared for, and when I feel that way, better believe, he will too.
And so do most men. So if you don't want to provide and protect why should he? | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 7/26/2008 8:05:45 AM | | If a man is not both...he is, if fact, neither. If you provide without any protection, you are not fully providing. If you only protect and provide nothing, you are not fully protecting. I would say that a good man is a provider. His nature calls him to provide as needed. To provide protection when needed, sustenance when needed, sexual satisfaction when needed, friendship when needed, freedom when needed. Everything, including protection, winds up falling under the umbrella of "providing". To say that men are "Protector" or "Provider" is just not accurate. Men do. however, tend to naturally gravitate to being one of the two. Some are better as a body guard, others are more of a bank account. So what am I...Protector or Provider? Neither, I am a Partner. I can put a roof over our head, put clothes on our back, put food on the table, put the toilet seat down, put the laundry in the hamper, put a smile on her face, and put an attacker in their grave. | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 7/26/2008 8:42:15 AM | I am a Partner. I can put a roof over our head, put clothes on our back, put food on the table, put the toilet seat down, put the laundry in the hamper, put a smile on her face, and put an attacker in their grave.
Partner implies she should be able to do the same.
But most women are selfish. They won't buy you dinner or go with you to check on that attacker. They're worse than little children. Women rob you and leave you to die. Maybe one day both men and women will play these roles as we did for most of human history. | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 7/26/2008 9:10:10 AM | Partner implies she should be able to do the same.
And she can...and more...
Partner does not necessarily imply that she can do the same. After all, what would be the point of partnering with someone that doesn't bring anything into the relationship. A good partner brings things you don't have into the relationship.
But most women are selfish. They won't buy you dinner or go with you to check on that attacker. They're worse than little children. Women rob you and leave you to die.
There are countless women that say/believe the same thing of men. Greed, fear, and selfish desire are part of human nature. Those who chose to allow themselves to be governed by that part of themselves become what you described, whether they are male or female. | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 8/7/2008 11:40:57 AM |
was that a joke...so oldfashioned girls...ones who just want to be a housewife and mom...
are at a loss...
Personally, if I want a maid I'll hire one. I can cook, clean, do laundry, shop, and do all of the other chores on my own while still providing for myself. The stress relieved by having someone else do those chores for me (many of which I've been doing for myself since I was a young child) is not nearly enough to justify the stress placed on my shoulders by the financial burden of a housewife. Basically, a housewife doesn't bring anything to the table. Why should I want one? | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 8/9/2008 7:10:34 PM | I'll disagree with that old guy...
Some are protectors
Some are providers
some are both
Some are neither
Some are trainable... some aren't. | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 8/9/2008 8:03:31 PM | I know this will reduce my chances of getting a date to zero for the next ten years, but you can't hide the truth! I am neither a protector nor a provider. I am an artist, principally. I have little to no money, but I have nifty gadgets. I am a loner and a musician, so I can talk about chords and play old thrash riffs. Now don't get me wrong; I can fire a gun fairly well and I think everyone should have the right to defend themselves, but I'm not going to generate that "swoon of protection" that women in romance novels feel. So where do I fit? That's right -- you, the brunette in the first row who answered "nowhere".
Some guys out there just aren't either. Yet, painters and poets and writers and graphics geeks can and do attract women... | |
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| Men are you a Protector or Provider...
Posted: 8/10/2008 5:45:42 PM | I will provide and i will protect but...
nothing is sexier than a woman who can provide for herself and protect herself...........at any time she couldnt i would step in but aside from that its equal all the way  | |
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