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Posted: 1/7/2008 11:52:28 PM | I do believe that we all have a right to believe what we believe in. Some people believe in ghosts, demons, aura's(sp) etc and that is fine with me if they want to believe in that sort of thing.
Some people believe that all unexplained things can really be explained upon further investigation and if they want to believe this that is okay with me too.
Difference of opinion is what makes the world go round. Howver, the thing that stood out to me was that the OP thinks that he caused her to hear voices and see demons.
Quite a leap from believing in spirits, demons and ghosts to actually saying that your ex might have caused you to see demons and hear voices.
I am not saying that it did not happen but if it did would it not be the work of the devil or some sort of mental illness etc. How can a person cause another person to hear voices and see things.
I also find it suspicious that the OP has not come back to this thread.
I am now hearing music from the Twlight Zone so I must go now.
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Posted: 1/7/2008 11:55:39 PM | RE: First post.
Well... presuming we set aside the fact that you're stark raving made... or worse... have I ever seen or had anything similar? In fact... I have.
I dated a woman once. She was sugar and spice... but odd things would happen around her. For instance her shoes... they grew different sizes each month. It was the darndest thing. Every month shed just go out and buy tons of shoes. I mean... what other reason could there be right? Ohhhh and also she could alter her own memories... selectively, or maybe mine I havent totally figured that out yet. For instance, she would constantly be reminding me that she had told me to do something or be somewhere... and I had no recollection of such events. Freaky no? I thought she was a succubus for a while... but it turns out shes just gives really good oral. There was the time I kept hearing her voice everywhere. I woke up. Heard her voice. I went out. Heard her voice. Id go to work.. and hear her voice. I mean... it was freaky. It just came right out the phone. Every time. So I feel your pain.
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Id practice jimmying yourself out of a strait jacket NOW. It might come in handy at some future point down the road... | |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 11:58:10 PM | This would be an interesting topic for interesting conversation, if posted somewhere other than here.
Personally, I've always found the paranormal interesting, although other than certain feelings and physical reactions I have never actually seen or heard anything when in a proposed 'haunted or sensitive' area.
I do believe that there are things we don't understand and that are beyond our capabilities to do so. Probably for the most part because we don't allow ourselves to do so.
My roommate, a basically 'normal, average man', recently showed me this site that showed our earth and went out millions of light years to include other known universes. His comment was 'And we humans have the ego to actually think we are the only intelligent life form.'
He's not a sci fi fanatic and basically all he seems to want is some woman to play house with to be happy (on the surface). But, he is also a person who thinks outside the box.
I've had friends who are very into the paranormal and only one that I had a romantic involvement with and for the most part, they were much more interesting to actually get to know.
OP - I really don't know what your experience meant, nor why you are feeling compelled to bring it up now so many years later and especially on here. My initial 'guess' would be you just want to do as many on any site with a forum community would like to do and that is become a part of that community and get to know others by talking about your own experiences.
Just like 'fishing' for a potential 'mate', some of us are fishing for potentional friends as well.
Friends who share the same interest.
That's all I have to say about that. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 1:08:23 AM | Matthew 9:32-33
Matthew 10: 1
Matthew 12:22
Matthew 15:22
Matthew 17:18
Mark 1:27
Mark 3:11
Mark 5:13-18
Mark 6:7
Mark 7:26-30
Luke 4:33-36
Luke 6:18
Luke 8:29
Luke 9:42
Luke 11:14
John 13:2
Acts 5:16
Acts 8:7
Acts 19:15
Acts 19:16
In Hebrew, "devil" means.....False accuser, slanderer.
Unfortunately far too many people watch way too much TV and have lost the ability to separate fact from fiction. Don't mystify things or expect Ghost Busters to show up to exorcise the demons. Lieing and manipulating is WHAT the devil does.....it's people who listen who do the rest. Unfortunately, it's those who most vehemently DENY the existence of such "unclean spirits" who who most often fall victim to their manipulation. Telling 1 lie doesn't mean that someone is possessed by a demon, but habitual lieing is a pretty good sign of it. To answer your question, YES....I have experienced such a situation as you mention. It's not hocus pocus, you don't need prozac or a psychiatrist. The "devils" in the above mentioned 20 references didn't all move to Tahiti in the last 2000 years, they're still roaming around.....seeking whom they can devour (1 Peter 5:8). That you actually saw a physical manifestation of these "unclean spirits" should tell you that you're being looked out for :-) Please remember what "devil" means.....it does NOT mean that ALL of them are perverts or axe murders! LOL in fact.....a lot of them are politicians! Squeaky clean, church going, and "moral" defenders.....heck....just look at Al Gore! LOL! You're not loosing your mind OP....but that you have asked the question...to me would indicate that perhaps you sould check out the 20 references I mentioned above. Good Luck! | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 1:21:38 AM | | GrandmaBooBoo: Taking something from a cult manifesto as literally as possible... seems a tad OFF to me... but to each their own... dementia... ^_^ | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 2:32:37 AM | Call up TAPS..the paranormals we see on TV. http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/communicate/contactus.html
These guys are serious about debunking and investigating paranormal activity..
Kinda like GHOSTBUSTERS in 2007. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 2:51:27 AM | I have three examples that evil is alive in the world..
I do believe there is growing amount of evil out there..I watched the news and see more and more evil activity going on and the news catches it on tv. GROWN men kicking babies(4 years old) /slapping them, punching them.. slamming doors on them.. in a convenience store....how cruel can you get AND getting it on TV!!! The child was his girlfriend baby and he was "babysitting"....
AND Here is one for you..in my area..
There were two teenagers..middleclass american boys..never been in trouble..heck one goes to church and is a member of the church choir.
These teenagers coaxed a man in one of the boys grandfathers garage and chopped his head off..just to see him die. They tossed the head in a local river and dumped the body in an alcove in a prominent new housing community near...to be found. PURE EVIL. ...they had arrested both boys and they appeared stunned and unaware of the the seriousness of this event. THIS IS REAL FOLKS..
A man burned beyond recognition was found a mile from my house...and dumped on a gravel road. The remains was a man who befriended a couple in another city five miles away...they torched him ..just to do it.
Evil does exist... | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 3:22:28 AM | People are just being ignorant here i must say!
Whether they like it or not, there is a thing called SUPERNATURAL POWERS/FORCES (believe it or not!)
Her problem could be caused by different factors like some posted, but do not ignore the fact that some people with paranormal/demonic activities are capable of causing harm to other people be it mentally, emotionally or worse still...physically!
Seek help spiritually ( ) if you still experience those problems...psychiatrists would always do the same thing, give medication while the person's condition detoriates!
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:07:35 AM | The perception of reality is different for everyone. Even a corporate CEO of a major company might be secretly searching for the key to the 9th Gate (he's just more descrete about his "interests" than let's say some angst filled teenager wearing a Marilyn Manson T-shirt.
Both are seekinging the darker paths of humanity, but obviously one is intelligent the other is... not. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:11:38 AM |
I would like to note that what I am about to say is serious & real.
10 years ago I was involved with a man [for 3 yrs.] who was in reality a bad person. It was the way he was : the things he used to do, I did not understand what was going on. Everything he did was pretty much underhanded. He lied about just about everything, he would manipulate people and use them to get what he wanted ---------------- all this under the guise of a charming smile and a deceptive winning personality. I saw all this and yet could not really comprehend it. I don't mean to sound confusing nor present you with lack of pertinent information. I am just trying to paint a picture of his overall character. Toward the end of our time together things were very bad. It was during that time that strange things began to occur, about him.
We were standing in Circut City and he was looking at a TV ------- as I looked up at him I saw that he was surrounded by a white aura. I actually saw this around him..... and I felt hurt..... because I interpreted the occurance as something good happining to him and I could not comprehend how that could be because I was certain he was bad. It wasn't until years later that I was able to comprehend what was really happining.
Anyway very shortly after that we broke up.
After he was gone [very shortly again] after he was gone other things began to happen in the house. I will not type everything that occurred but there is no doubt in mind and understanding that I was being bothered by demons [whispering in my ear using his voice - apparitions] etc ... I know this is scary & it was a long time ago now.
But, the thought has occurred to me as to whether or not there are others out there who have also experienced demonic activity in association with being romantically/emotionally involved with an individual. I do not think I am alone in this.
Anyone have experiences such as this?
Umm.....if you haven't already...SEEK IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE! | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 5:38:34 AM | | There are people that attract/draw negative energy, even to the point of being vampirish. Those energy sucking individuals are out there, knowing when and whom to prey upon. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 5:51:28 AM | OP: You saw a white aura around your then b/f? Maybe you have the "shining?"
Or just maybe you have the power to "see" stink lines or really bad B.O on a person.
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:28:23 AM | | someone in the thread said "stress induced hallucinations".... that is the best and most likey cause of all this... not demons. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:34:59 AM | I knew that what I revealed would cause a lot of controversy. It is interesting to see the reactions. Incidentally, I was reading a thread about Catholics and Wiccans yesterday and as I did so I remembered my experience. I posted it under relationships because to my thinking it was related to that. I am not offended by the various unbelieving comments ,after all it is quite bizzare. I am not seeking to create effect of any kind, but after thinking about it I was curious as to whether or not others have experienced similar things. As far fetched as my experience may see to be it nonetheless actually occurred. I was not a drug user and still don't. He didn't slip me anything and I was not out of my mind.
I would like to say that reguardless of whether or not some of you posters accept what I say as truth, there was a very important lesson in it for me. It opened my eyes to the possible dangers in others, and those dangers can be emotional destruction.... mental tortue ..... physical abuse.
How do we really know what sort of things can actually occur as a result of allowing persons or a person in our lives who are toxic.... poison.
When I read some of these threads about experiences some woman have posted and the way they deal with it or their inability to comprehend what is really going on or why this is happening to them or how could someone really be like that etc... [ follow me on this please] I am concerned for their general welfare, I am concerned because they don't/can't see reality. They are being attacked and don't really know that they are. I think we have to be very careful about the choices we make and the people we let in [man or woman] our lives. I think it is very important to have your head together about who you are and what you really want when it comes to relationships with the opposite sex. So many unwittingly expose themselves to devisive influences because of lack of definition of purpose [ not knowing what you want].
Anyway I wanted to share some more of my thoughts in connection with my past experience and elaborate upon the importance of what I learned. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:44:19 AM | | i'd suggest that you go and see a religious figure - priest/pastor/rabbi/whatever your preference, if you believe that spirits are bothering you, they would have more experience in how to help in supernatural matters | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:47:52 AM | | Ok though I do believe in Paranormal activity and that there are things that we can't explain in this life.....Who are we to say what happens when we die, nobody can come back to tell us about it......I also think that some people look for attention...So, it's hard to say unless there is solid proof to back it up....And I can say around here since nobody knows you, your word just don't cut it most times....Especially on something like this, so OP you should have been prepared for the flame that was to come with a topic like this one. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:56:42 AM | The human mind is a Very Interesting "Playground"..
Check out this YouTube and to see 'how it was done' watch to the end. Very interesting how thoughts, ideas and even words can be put in 'your' head without you even knowing it!
This is the same tactic "Chris Angel - Mind Freak" uses. Did you ever wonder how he can pick "Your" card when he's on TV and you're sitting in your living room?? "Subliminal" Suggestion.
Personally I do believe there is more to this whole trip than we will ever know. I don't believe in demons though. JMHO .. I think there is more that goes on between our ears than outside them.
There is also a new form of advertising (not approved in North America 'yet') .. it actually sends a signal to the part of the brain that "hears" and this 'new' unapproved tool can and does make it sound as if there is a voice inside your head. A tad evil if you ask me, but not "demonic".
I feel for you OP, having to endure all that nasty stuff, but after being with someone who messes with your mind for so long, there's bound to be some "scarring" so to speak. I am not attacking and not even saying those voices aren't real (at least to OP) .. But - I think you really should seek 'professional' help - Regardless of the source of these 'voices' it is Not normal and should be addressed by those who have much greater knowledge of the workings of the brain/mind than those of us who haven't even 'played a doctor on TV!'
Hope you find your peace OP!! All the best
A.S.is
here's another link to check out:
http://www.mindpowernews.com/SubliminalAds.htm
and one more:
http://oror.essortment.com/hearingvoices_rjow.htm | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 7:11:37 AM |
We were standing in Circuit City and he was looking at a TV ------- as I looked up at him I saw that he was surrounded by a white aura. I actually saw this around him..... and I felt hurt..... because I interpreted the occurrence as something good happening to him and I could not comprehend how that could be because I was certain he was bad. It wasn't until years later that I was able to comprehend what was really happening.
The way you’ve worded this statement suggests that you were comfortable with this occurrence from the moment it began; as a sceptic – a man of logic – I would suggest that this display of acceptance could be seen as an aspect of desirability toward a situation on your part, i.e. you wished to see an aura around him instead of the truth.
I would also add that TV’s generally give off a large amount of light, so it would be safe to assume that a man standing in front of a TV would have a light source on him. Depending on the factors of the size of the television and the darkness of the area in which he was standing, the light that was targeting him could have been enough to have “surrounded him in a white aura”.
After he was gone [very shortly again] after he was gone other things began to happen in the house.
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As far fetched as my experience may seem to be it nonetheless actually occurred. I was not a drug user and still don't. He didn't slip me anything and I was not out of my mind.
Can you be certain he didn’t slip you anything? If the “activity” continued for a short time after he left you then it could be hypothesized that the drugs he slipped you while you were together were still having an effect until they passed through your body. Perhaps you weren'ttaking drugs but he was an he passed on their effect through the usual means. Or it stands to reason that because this activity continued even after he left that the problem was with you all along.
Also, I’m sure you’d agree that an intelligent person wouldn’t accept a testimony of sanity from someone who appears insane.
As far as I’m aware there has never been any categorical evidence of paranormal activity ever recorded. I would argue that if you truly believe to have experience what you’ve suggested that there was either something medically wrong with you during the time you were dating this man or that there is still something wrong with you. The best advice I can give you is to go to a medical professional and ask for a check-up. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 7:17:38 AM | If I believe in the power of lets say "magic beans" then that will explain and account for all my good or bad luck and slant how I percieve things. I choose to not believe in the occult, not because I belive it doesn't exsist ( nobody really knows for sure or can prove or disprove it)... but I choose to believe in something that offers me something rewarding ( vs something spooky and unexplainable)... so when I am sitting at home and the power goes out... I think there must be trouble with the electric, not that demons are trying to send me a message.
We can read into things any way we want to, depending on our core beliefs and values, I choose to dismiss things of the occult because they have no postive influence.
That you choose to believe in the occult and paranormal, you will see things that you will interpret as demons, when it may be nothing more than a paranoid delusion of excessive amounts of hormones caused by stress to a percieved threat. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 10:06:41 AM | put recreational pharmaceuticals down and slowly step away...
edit- ignoble... thanks for the laugh. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 10:59:29 AM | The power of suggestion can be a deadly thing, and whatever things this guy implied has probably worked it's way into your subconsious and is allowing him to continue to torture you.
Try some meditation, re-charge your chakras, chant some affirmations...don't dwell on what he said/did in the past: put him away in a sealed box in your mind...and if all else fails, try a medium. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 11:24:15 AM | I hate to be a party pooper, but I think there is less to this world (ie, human life form) than most people speculate. We are really just trained monkeys with an intelligent brain and a lot less hair. We share 97% of their DNA, and similar level of instinctive behavior. What I do know is, bizarre events are seemingly always statistically amazing but plausible coincidences. No I am not a cut and dried boring fuddy duddy with no appreciation for lifes glorious events, nor do I base my perspective, beliefs, and decisions on Godly or Supernatural forces. Why? No one has showed any proof, 99% of the supernatural events or Godly Miracles turn out to be fakes or delusions (ie, there are millions of delusional people pseudo functioning every day). Your faith is your faith, and I wish all those Faith filled people would live one toot like a religious person should (how many Christians drive global warming SUV's, and how many people who see visions or spirits are otherwise nuts?)
Anyone is entitled to harmless beliefs, but remember to teach your children good things happen to good people, and bad people do bad things. Karma, I believe in that, from a way of life perspective, not supernatural forces. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 11:52:09 AM | | I think that the psyche/mind/whatever you want to call your essence of being can CAUSE these sorts of things--emotional turmoil can CAUSE weird things to happen around you. I do not believe in "demons", but I do believe in "bad thoughts". A lot of "paranormal" activity goes on around teenagers--the most angst-ridden section of humans. This isn't a coincidence--they are CAUSING it. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 12:24:07 PM | Your ex sounds like a boaderline sociopath, they often hide in a disguise of being a positive person but their negativity shines through all that, once you know such people exist.
I had a friend like this, the do leave a trace of their negative, hungry persona on you.
Try to remember everything he would joke about with you, they often lead you to laugh at things that make THEM feel good. Often they are unfair judgements on others and you may feel 'used' afterwards. It sounds like this guy has had an effect on you.
My ex was almost destroyed by one (before I met her), she was seduced by a psycho at work who totally drew her away from her husband, when she left her husband for him the psycho turned around and said he did not want her anymore.
Read about boaderline sociopaths and learn to spot them, they are everywhere and are a hidden source of evil in the world because they think they are great and sucker people who cant even concieve of their materialistic, broken state of mind. You normally find them running cults, read about L Ron Hubbard for a perfect case study. | |
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