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Posted: 1/8/2008 12:32:02 PM | Oh yeah, the 'aura' you saw.
We have all had experiences of people who phone up and start talking, by the end you feel drained and they sound real happy. There is a more alarming side to this.
It is a simple exchange and psychos do it a lot, its called a 'psychic attack' , think of it as them literally stealing energy from you.
One of my housemates had this done to him by his mother, she was always blaming him unfairly for any failing, she did it when ever she felt bad. Surprise surprise, this guy now has a girlfriend who does the exact same thing to him.
I have never personally seen an aura, but people who are always stealing energy may have a more pronounced one. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 1:13:32 PM | I know for a fact that my ex was possessed, but so is my sewing machine.
I think he put a hex on it. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 1:22:50 PM | You are not alone.
Creepy as it sounds, I know what you talking about.
My parents had live in thier house for 12 years. My Mom had Diabetes, but it was under control and she was working in her dream job (as a labour and delivery nurse) and my dad was very well employed as well. The place was huge and they had found it for a good price. Everything was going well in our little family ... and then we moved in there.
I moved out within 6 months of being there (my Mother and I got in a fight ... usual teenager b.s.?) and to the most part stayed out (with the exception of , but obviously my parents stayed in the house. I think I may have been the lucky one.
My Mother had done some investigating in regards to who had lived in the house prior to them owning it, and the one very specific thing that she had noticed is that the four couples who had owned it ALL had divorced. Could be a coincidence still, but there's more.
My Mom got more and more sick (coincidence and age?) and then my dad and she started fighting like cats and dogs (something I swear I had never seen them do in my life ... coincidence?) and then they even filed for divorce themselves three times (though thier love was strong enough to pull through - thank God), but we always pulled through.
Fast forward a few years, now my Mother has been confined to her chair from her sickness, and is sitting there all day while my Dad goes to work. I get pregnant and everything starts getting way better than it had been in 12 years ... we were going to have a new little baby (and a blessing). My Mom and I got close - finally for the first time in a long time. Everything is going well ...
Five months pass without a hitch. Halloween comes and my Mother is hospitalized. Halloween night of all things (coincidence?), then 10 days later she passes away VERY suddenly, and hours (quite literally) before she is to get the treatment she needed to survive (she passed at 5am, the apt was for 7am) ... so my Fiance and I moved in to help my dad out for a bit (who had had a PERFECT relationship until then) - guess what? WE start fighting like cats and dogs (never heard of in our relationship itself) - to the point that I had to lock myself in the house to keep him from beating the crap out of me because i took his keys away for drinking and driving ... he NEVER had done, or to this day has done that to me!!! I was stunned!! He had to be led away by the police because of it ... as well, he and my Dad were at each others throats!!!!
Guess what? I move out of the house and then - everything gets 100% better between us (HE enrolled himself in AA, and HE enrolled himself in Anger Management as well and has hardly drank a drop since that day) ... but ONLY after I got out of that house ... and him.
I know we have seen other things going on in that house, and heard things in my own ears (things that I could not explain, thoughts running through my head that were VERY uncharacteristic of me, seeing my dead Grandfather (who had been dead for over 15 years by this time) walk through my family room door and ask me where my Mother was (this 'man' had beaten and raped my Mother as a child - I told him he is not welcome here ... he got more abrasive, then tried to go after my Mom until I screamed for her and he disappeared) ... but I never realized the evilness that this thing produced until it was actually trying to destroy my own relationship - for real!!
Coincidence or not - to this day I am betting on what my Mother told me about the place before she passed away. We even got a priest to bless the house (but I think it pissed it off - but it is trying to be a little more sneaky I have noticed ... it plays 'dead' and the house smells stale (when we all know every home has it's own 'scent'), but if you are alone you can smell the house, and see the damage. Both my Best Friend and I are intuitive and we are seeing the same thing ... crazy, but true.
The best thing that you could try for the moment (and depending on how powerful this entity is it may work) ... just tell it that it is not welcome near you or around your home (make sure that you are firm about it and don't show fear, bad energy breeds off of bad energy) adn it should go away or at least be put at bay. If the problem persists there are several things that you can do. Try the website www.placeoflight.com and they can assist you further ... but be sure. This is not a joke. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 2:33:18 PM | First of all, why is this not in the religion forum?
Secondly, there is no such thing as paranormal/demonic activity. If there were, there would be quite a few wealthy millionaires, as several scientific societies are willing to pay big money to anyone that can prove that their house is haunted. Everytime someone in the scientific goes to investigate, the "spirits" quiet down - because y'know - they get spooked by geeks wearing lab coats
Secondly, maybe this is just me, but I find that most people who believe in this sort of thing have catholic backgrounds - no other religion believes in possession or exorcism, or the like. I've yet to see a zoroastrian version of the exorcism. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 2:55:57 PM | there is no such thing as paranormal/demonic activity.
And you can prove this how?You talk about people not being able to prove the existence of paranormal phenomenon,but you have no proof it doesn't exist either.
I find that most people who believe in this sort of thing have catholic backgrounds
Oh yeah of course everyone who believes and have experienced something far out of the ordinary must be catholic.Uh huh sure.  | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 3:31:47 PM | I'm not surprised that some are mocking this. We are scared of things that we don't understand. Some are saying it hasn't happened to them, then they insult the OP. Just because it hasn't happened to us, specifically, does not mean it doesn't exist.
I was watching a show last night, on A&E (there was nothing else on!) called Paranormal State (I think that was the name...). It would have been interesting if it didn't seem so cheesy. It was supposed to be a group from Penn State University who investigates the paranormal doing research on particular cases. It seemed a little too "acted out".
I do believe there's something out there. What? I don't know. But it's very ignorant of any of us to assume, just because we haven't witnessed it personally. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:00:33 PM | raychass: using your logic, one could equally say that unicorns and leperchauns exist as well. We can't prove that they don't exist, therefore, they must exist until proven otherwise. I'll have to watch my back every time I eat lucky charms now....
As for the second quote, try quoting the entire paragraph instead of just cherry picking one thing. The majority of modern day claims of "possessions" come from those with catholic backgrounds, and I know this because when I was younger I was very curious about this sort of stuff. So I went to the library and read book after book about this - and certainly the trend was present. Coincidentally, catholics also are the only ones who claim to see manifestations of jesus/mary/joseph in toast, melted candle wax, etc or have the believe of the stigmata. Then again, we can't prove that jesus wanted to manifest himself as a stain on the wall, so hey, it must be true. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:20:04 PM | Hi Firesiren,
Those who have been involved with a partner with a particular mental disorder - "Borderline Personality Disorder" - sometimes describe that their disordered partner has an eery, psychic power over or with them. I know it sounds nuts to everybody else here. Anyhow, google the disorder and see if your former partner meets any of the other criteria.
The charming personality eventually reveals (within an intimate relationship) an evil counterpart. It can be quite bewildering to the healthy partner.
Before any of you scoff, know this...many a professional therapist will not counsel a suspected BPD because of their powers to enmesh. It takes a really special and dedicated therapist to treat this disorder.
Anyhow, Firesiren, if you were in this relationship for 3+ years, you probably need some counselling. If your google search is positive, also find a BPD forum for those involved with a loved one with BPD. Or try "NON BPD". There are a couple good ones in which you will find others with your same experience. Good luck. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:31:35 PM | Wow. Lady I was going to come in here and really be a smart-alek and rip on you, but it comes down to the fact that you, and probably a couple of the more credulous people posting in this thread really need to get some professional medical/psychological help. After reading this thread I just can't bring myself to make fun of any of you. I really feel pity for you. Seriously, brain chemistry imbalances can cause serious and sometimes fatal problems. For the sake of your children, get some help.
Raychass. You can't prove a negative. If you assert that something exists, then it is up to you to provide evidence. Don't fall for that old logical fallacy that has been recently exhumed by a Kansas school board. My invisible Unicorn Pegasus and The F.S.M. will await your evidence. 8P
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:32:25 PM | | You don't mention the exact reason why you broke up. If you knew something wasn't of this earth at the beginning why in heaven's name did you stay with h im? His demonic butt would of been out of my door in 10 minutes. Was it that you really liked him and then you were breaking up thought he must be some kind of demon if he is breaking up with ME and that the only thing you could come up with? Please get a check on reality I know most guys are demons but there are some good ones out there too so don't scare them off with your talk of demons. Put the spike where is should be | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:50:34 PM | Was the house near power lines or any strong electromagnetic field? It's been shown this can cause this.
Five months pass without a hitch. Halloween comes and my Mother is hospitalized. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 4:57:53 PM | | If I catch the anti christ, I'm just mean enough to shove his arse into a jar and off to Ebay with him! | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 5:02:39 PM | Never had that experience. Certainly hope I never do.
I've had someone brag about how they thought they were the cat's ass coz they'd mastered all the forces of good and evil but had decided to go for good -- and then try to convince me of their intent to set up overseas Sunday Schools if I'd just spot them some cash. He and his girlfriend were reading too many Harry Potter books and doing too many illicit substances IMO.
Had someone else try to convince me that their mind was so strong they could make others do things and had friends who could throw knives etc. -- therefore I'd better watch out kinda thing. One asked me if I'd ever heard of a certain witchcraft practice in a tone of voice that implied she'd corned the market on it.
Told her, "no, the numerous Wiccans I've known in my life never mentioned butt f^ck all nothing about it" and walked away.
Did this bunch 'drive me crazy'? Yeah, but not to the point of actually believing them. I wasn't looking for an exhorcist but merely an exit and somewhere to buy a decent coffee ASAP. Dubbed them the Road Crew from Hell but I think even Satan has higher standards. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 5:07:28 PM | | I've seen paranormal things first hand. When I was growing up, family freinds had a "haunted" house. I always passed it off as BS until I stayed there one night. It was nothing evil or even scary. We saw toys moving around by themselves, rearranged furniture in the morning and the non-player piano playing in the middle of the night. Paranormal researchers had spent quite a bit of time studying this house. I guess in those circles it was considered a hot spot. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 5:57:41 PM | "But, the thought has occurred to me as to whether or not there are others out there who have also experienced demonic activity in association with being romantically/emotionally involved with an individual. I do not think I am alone in this.
Anyone have experiences such as this?"
I cannot say I have experience such things in connection with a relationship, but I will share anyway, as I have had a different experience and a good one.
I apologize in advance, as this may be a little off topic; I'd just like to share that not all experiences that fall under "paranormal" are necessarily bad ones.
There is much in this world that science cannot explain, and much that transcends the bounds of our five senses.
I moved into a home two years ago, built in 1925. The old man who owned it before me had died. I always felt a peaceful presense here, but that was it, until last spring.
I had a fan that stopped working. I turned it off, but didn't unplug it. When I came back home it was switched on - and working! I am the only one with access to this house. Someone - or something - had to turn on that fan, and I know the cats couldn't have done it.
Fastforward to a few weeks ago. My furnace had not been working since late summer, I believed it was the fan motor but had not checked. I was able to easily get by with other heating and AC sources I have at my disposal, and I've been busy and hadn't had a chance to get it fixed. Well, a couple weeks ago, I came home from work, and noticed a difference as soon as I walked in the door. I walked over to get the cats some food and noticed that my thermostat - which had been turned "off" was now on "fan"......again, I am the only one with access to this house, at least physically, and I know the cats couldn't reach the thermostat. Sooooooo.........my central AC/heat is up and running again, and just before some very cold weather moved in.
I learned about the man who owned this place before me - he was a very kindly old man, loved making arts and crafts, fixing things, very active in his church and helping youths who needed it. This stuff would surely fit his M.O.. Whoever it is, I just say "THANK YOU", and I will return the favor or pass it on!<img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0> <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0> <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0> | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:13:07 PM | | Your not crazy....people who say you are either can not comprehend what they dont experience or cant get past the socializing they incurred that told them those things did not exist... | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:25:11 PM |
I was involved with a man [for 3 yrs.] who was in reality a bad person. It was the way he was : the things he used to do, I did not understand what was going on. Everything he did was pretty much underhanded. He lied about just about everything, he would manipulate people and use them to get what he wanted ---------------- all this under the guise of a charming smile and a deceptive winning personality.
OP, I don't know anything about the demonic part you speak of, but I worked for someone who was seriously the embodiment of evil...similar to how you describe your ex.
Read "The Sociopath Next Door". There's a popular misconception that all sociopaths are serial killers. Rather, some have other motivators like greed and power, but all are categorized by a ****lack of empathy**** You'll probably recognize your ex in that book. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:29:46 PM | | First of all remote viewing/clairvoyancy is best utilized in a Theta state, not Beta or Alpha, 2nd the word 'messages' doesn't have an 'a' instead of an e, based has one 's' and white auras are in fact a reality. Mine is white and has been seen by a police officer and a correctional officer. None of us were smoking by the way, do drugs or have any psychotic tendancies. Maybe people that don't know what they are talking about shouldn't be so cruel. I notice a lot of teachers have yellow auras, what color is yours? | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 6:29:55 PM | RE: Ponygirl
Here’s what I make of your story:
After twelve years of living happily in the same place, your family decided to move, which would be a difficult experience for anyone.
You never mention the condition of the house, but it’s a fact that all houses have their problems. You do mention that four couples owned it prior to you moving in (though you don’t mention if any single people owned it), which would indicate a decent amount of age and wear. You also state that these couples all divorced, though - for the purpose of debate - you don’t state if they divorced while still owning the house; as you suggest later, you believe that leaving the houses causes “cleansing” so if they still divorced after having leaving the house this would rule in disagreement of the house being haunted. It could be reasoned that the divorce rate in America has been steadily increasing through the years and that someone would require a reason to leave the house anyway, so divorce would be a credible reason for couples moving home and it’s quite possible that this is one of the main reasons for couples moving home.
Your mom then becomes increasingly unwell, which isn’t surprising for a middle-aged woman with diabetes who has recently moved home (perhaps the condition of the home helped to increase her health problems). You parents begin arguing, likely due to the sudden change in environment coupled with attempting to make the house habitual and your mothers decreasing health. They file for divorce three times but never go through with it, which could be argued rules out your core belief of the house creating divorces.
You become pregnant, which has a positive effect on your mother, likely due to the fact that it symbolises life while she herself was aware of her own approaching death. Five months pass (the warm summer months) and then your mother is hospitalised (during the colder autumn months). She was scheduled for treatment but died before it could be administered, which happens I’m afraid. You and your fiancé then move in to the house to help out your father and you begin fighting. I believe the reasons for this would be:
a) Your mother had recently passed away within hours of the appointed treatment that could have saved her life.
b) You were at least five months pregnant and thus suffering from the effects of your condition.
c) You had to deal with the emotional state of your father.
d) You had to deal with all of these problems whilst moving home again.
You then state that your fiancé developed a drinking problem and began to argue with your father, which would be understandable as your father has seemingly never had to deal with another adult male “invading his territory” before, especially one with drink and anger issues who is heavily involved with his only daughter, or whilst coping with the bereavement of a long-term partner.
You then move out of the house and things become well (do you move back to your old neighbourhood? You don’t say). His change in behaviour could have likely been due to the distance placed between him and your father, and possibly moving back in to his old routine (if you moved back in to your old lives).
You go on to talk about an incident where you saw and spoke to your deceased grandfather. The obvious fact to point out here is your seemingly accepted behaviour when dealing with this situation: It stands to reason that the vast majority of people would have “freaked out”, but from your wording you seem to have accepted it at first glance. I’m unclear of the date of this event: Were you pregnant at this time? Was this during the time when your mother was dying? The fact that you envisioned a person from your past who you had known to hurt your mother suggests that you were overly stressed about her health which caused you to hallucinate. If you were pregnant at this time, or taking some form of medication or stimulant, then this may have added to the cause.
You arranged to have a priest bless the house – I won’t say anything about that apart from the fact that you believed the house’s “influence” died down a little afterwards, which could be seen as a desire to believe in a false truth (a placebo). You also say that the house smelled stale, which would indicate some natural problem with the condition of the house (damp, etc.) that, as I have previously suggested, may have added to your mother’s health problems.
My explanation of the events you’ve recited would be that you experienced typical family problems which (seemingly) began with the uprooting of your long-established lives in to an unfit house.
All I know for sure is that delusion and denial can be proven, whereas the paranormal cannot. This doesn’t mean that the paranormal doesn’t exist, but with the distinct lack of scientific evidence available it has the same possibilities of being real as, say, dolphins secretly controlling the world but keeping it a secret from us.
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Posted: 1/8/2008 9:25:09 PM |
If you assert that something exists, then it is up to you to provide evidence
Wrong! I don't "NEED" to do anything.If you don't believe then fine,whatever ,i really could care less if you do believe your little magical unicorn does exist.If you want to believe that when we die we simply cease to exist and are destined to become wormfood,then believe it.What you believe or disbelieve is of no consequence to me at all.That's an extremely sad and horrifying way of thinking ,but hey whatever floats your boat.
However just because you don't personally believe something don't use absolutes like"it's not true because i say it's not true"or"there is no way it's true"unless you CAN prove it's not true.I personally do not believe in reincarnation,but i am not going to say to others who believe that "what a load of bull all that is"or simply put"it's not true and does not exist".I may not believe ,but i have no evidence it does not exist. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 9:40:29 PM | | Best thing I can say... LAy off the drugs woman. Those drugs have you seeing lights. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 9:42:09 PM | | OP...I'm sorry you have had to endure such attacks regarding your experience....Here's my take on the world......Science......they don't know sh*t!!.....Religion....they don't know sh*t!!.....Psycology...they don't know sh*t!!....EXPERTISE.....is just another opinion!!!!!!.....There are many people who have experienced the unexplained.....Just know that the message that was given to you....was done so for a reason.....you reacted correctly.....Take care!!! | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 4:52:05 AM | What you believe or disbelieve is of no consequence to me at all.
Really? Do I actually need to start listing all the things people have believed in the past that have caused unceasing pain and death to innocent people? September the 11th? The Nazi regime? Would you like me to continue?
When your belief affects yourself and/or others, or when you choose to force your belief on others, then it’s up to you to prove it’s true - that there is rationality within your ideas. Otherwise you are following a path of idiocy, which is a reckless path to follow.
For example: It's fine to believe this woman's story, that people, objects and places can haunt you. But eventually someone's going to take this belief too far, they're going to call in a priest to bless their "haunted" home and then wake up the next day to find their children dead by carbon monoxide poisoning. Think about it. | |
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