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Posted: 1/9/2008 8:01:59 AM |
you choose to force your belief on others
Where exactly am i forcing my beliefs on others?I quite clearly remember saying "believe what you want to".If that's forcing my beliefs on others,well then that's a rather strange way to force them.You believe whatever it is you wish to believe and i will do the same .I am not going to continue this stupid little pissing match with you anymore.It's quite obvious that you have some serious issues with anyone who chooses to believe anything remotely different from you. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 8:49:27 AM | op...first off i gotta tell ya that you have shook a hornets nest on this one!
and second..most of these folks respondin dont even have a dog in this fight!
theres been times when i didnt believe in a haint but that didnt stop the haint from causin me ta hurt myself gettin away from it!
i once started datin a feller who said he had a lil man on his shoulder tellin him things an i thought he was just jokin..someone took a picture of us once with a mirror in the background..when it was developed there was all kinds of antichrist symbols on that mirror! i took the camera and the developed pictures to a photography school and even had them come out to the house and check the spot where the pic was taken...they could never explain it...turns out that feller had a mean streak so deep that he prolly was under demonic influence..i dunno cause i didnt stay around him long enough to find out for sure...i aint saying everybody should believe my experiences but i know what i saw with my own two eyes and i know what i believe......... | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 9:00:56 AM | Medina said:
If I catch the anti christ, I'm just mean enough to shove his arse into a jar and off to Ebay with him!
LMAO!!! You never know! A couple in Montreal (Canada) just sold a snowdrift for over $3500. on EBay .. why not an antichrist or 2.. maybe toss in some echtoplasm just to keep the bidding going! lol
Sorry - but we have enough to 'worry' about from flesh and blood humans, I don't think blaming disembodied entities is 'healthy'.
Demonic possession? I don't believe exists. That doesn't mean it doesn't .. it just means >I< don't buy it. I think it is a 'human' excuse that prevents 'us' from dealing with the Real issue.
So .. What would the antichrist sell for on EBay . and 'who' would start the bidding?
A.S.is
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Posted: 1/9/2008 9:14:13 AM | OP - I totally understand what you're saying, but that's because my beliefs are probably very similar to your own. I do believe angels walk among us, and I believe we meet them without knowing it. I also believe in demons, just like the ones Jesus cast out of the homeless crazy man living in the cemetary and into the pigs which died in the sea.
That said, honey, you can't have a productive discussion about this here in the forums. You just can't. I've tried discussing Christian issues in here and it just won't work, and it's not just me. I've seen LOTS of our brothers and sisters take a beating in here. There's just way too much Christian bashing. The bad guy loves single people, especially single people who aren't Christians, and he's not going to let you speak to them about such things without a fight.
My advice to you is to do what I did in that situation. Go to the moderators and ask that your own thread be deleted. Let the discussion vanish as if it never happened. Then go and discuss this with your Christian friends who understand such things.
Peace Sister!
Mark
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Posted: 1/9/2008 10:16:54 AM |
Where exactly am I forcing my beliefs on others? I quite clearly remember saying "believe what you want to". If that's forcing my beliefs on others, well then that's a rather strange way to force them. You believe whatever it is you wish to believe and i will do the same .I am not going to continue this stupid little pissing match with you anymore. It's quite obvious that you have some serious issues with anyone who chooses to believe anything remotely different from you.
Firstly: I was using ‘you’ as a relative term, as in ‘when a person’.
Secondly: Check who you’re talking to: This is the first time we’ve spoken on this thread.
Thirdly: ‘I’ probably do have a problem with the beliefs of others – I like to call it intelligence. It stops me doing stupid things, such as hating homosexuals because a two-thousand year-old storybook tells me they’re evil.
I once started dating a feller who said he had a lil man on his shoulder telling him things and I thought he was just joking…someone took a picture of us once with a mirror in the background…when it was developed there were all kinds of antichrist symbols on that mirror! I took the camera and the developed pictures to a photography school and even had them come out to the house and check the spot where the pic was taken...they could never explain it.
Ignoring the fact that your story - as I try to sound as inoffensive as possible - comes from a woman who willingly dated a man that claimed to get instructions from a miniature person sitting on his shoulder - demonic symbols aren’t as factual as you may believe: For instance, the pentagram is actually a symbol for protection, not damnation, so I would be interested in discovering what these symbols you claim to have seen actually looked like.
It could also be the case that the person who took the photo had the symbols digitally added to the picture. I can’t say that I buy in to the expertise of this photography school that you mention when it comes to the field of photographic investigation either – I’d like to see some credentials.
Then go and discuss this with your Christian friends who understand such things.
Read: Then go and discuss this with your Christian friends who will believe any nonsense you tell them and won’t attempt to help you with the real problem. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 10:23:29 AM | """Maybe people that don't know what they are talking about shouldn't be so cruel. I notice a lot of teachers have yellow auras, what color is yours?""
Ok, no one should ever be cruel period (thats why US govt shouldn't torture terrorists), however moondancer, I know I know what I am talking about and I think many many other posts here are seemingly all in sink and way more valid, ie, way more truthful, than what you posted. There is a big difference between truthful, honesty, and factual, compared to dreaming, fantasies, delusions, and seeing what you want to see.
So teachers have yellow auras eh? Do I have to squint my eyes a whole lot and put on rose (yellow rose) colored glasses to see that? And what relationship does remote viewing have to do with ability to see auras and being a clairvoyant? Aren't those three separate "skills". Like being a BBQ Chef, and bartender, or baker? I'm not here for a big argument on this (I'm sure many psychics get paid pretty good pandering to simpletons with money, ever watch the Montel show) and I AGREE PEOPLE SHOULD'T BE CRUEL....So I guess I throw out....HOW MANY POSTS WERE CRUEL? And I know for a fact I know what I am talking about....my crazy mom claims all kinds of psychic experiences...to bad she got evicted, won't see a doctor, and can't throw away an old newspaper.....
"""you assert that something exists, then it is up to you to provide evidence
Wrong! I don't "NEED" to do anything.If you don't believe then fine,whatever """
Ok Ok, within reason, if there are no safety issues, child abuse, terrorism, or "hate messages" people in this Country are permitted all kinds of bizarre opinions, fantasies, and free speech. Sure, ok. But as far as advanced thinking goes, if you claim something exists, you are supposed to prove it. Thats why courts require evidence in this country. End of THAT issue. So ok, no one hear neeeds to prove anything does or doesnt exist...if they wan't to be taken seriously that is.
"""To think that these same people are allowed to vote and carry a driver's license. Now THAT'S scary."""" quoted from gotapulse below. I think that kinda sums it up, if you assume everyone gets their own opinion etc. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 10:24:55 AM | OK - I think "demons" are human constructs to avoid dealing with "their" own lack of conscience.
If I'm wrong, then let that lightening bolt fly! .
Ok .. still waiting to be "struck by lightening" for my heathenistic / pagan like / wicked wiccan ways. Helllloooo mr. lightening bolt guy!!
I have heard though - that if you don't pay your exorcist you get repossessed! lol
>> The TRUTH shall set you free. At least it'll get that little jerk off your shoulder!
A.S.is
but then .. maybe I'm possessed! BOOO!
and still no lightening .. sigh . .. I woulda converted too.
One last comment - If You are comfortable with and Secure in your own beliefs, what I or anyone else believes won't be a threat and you can carry on talking to little devils and the like without getting all defensive to those of us who don't hear voices or see little peeps on other peeps shoulders.
JMHO
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Posted: 1/9/2008 10:26:04 AM | F*ck. To think that these same people are allowed to vote and carry a driver's license. Now THAT'S scary.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
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Posted: 1/9/2008 2:27:01 PM | No! No! No!
Never discuss such occurrences in public!
Wisdom!
I have to agree with mess. 4 - all Raychass statements- So true! | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 6:31:05 PM | heh... I lived with a guy for 4 years... happy one minute, an a$$ the next...
I thought for a while he might be possessed... turns out, he really was JUST an a$$ !
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Posted: 1/10/2008 7:15:42 AM | Being with someone who is a psychopath, a narcissist or a sociopath is stressful. Obviously you were reacting to a very bad situation for you and yout body (perceptions) were giving you the clues to GET OUT.
Well, they served their purpose...you are out. Be grateful that your subcoonscious can protect you this way. Whether it was truly supernaturally evil or just a very sick man messin' with you head is besides the point.
Please get checked out by a good doctor to rule out any neurological damage.. and thank the powers that be that you no longer have this man in your life.
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Posted: 1/10/2008 7:19:41 AM |
Wrong! I don't "NEED" to do anything.If you don't believe then fine,whatever ,i really could care less if you do believe your little magical unicorn does exist.If you want to believe that when we die we simply cease to exist and are destined to become wormfood,then believe it.What you believe or disbelieve is of no consequence to me at all.That's an extremely sad and horrifying way of thinking ,but hey whatever floats your boat.
However just because you don't personally believe something don't use absolutes like"it's not true because i say it's not true"or"there is no way it's true"unless you CAN prove it's not true.I personally do not believe in reincarnation,but i am not going to say to others who believe that "what a load of bull all that is"or simply put"it's not true and does not exist".I may not believe ,but i have no evidence it does not exist.
Yes...actually you DO need to provide proof.
When you are making a claim (or claims) that are go beyond the observable norms,then you need to provide proof if you expect others to believe in the same.
People can see that others die and they have done as such since mankind's beginning.
If one were to say that after this death,anything happens to whatever the person "was" continues to exist in a "magical place" that is either an "eternal paradise" or a "horrible damnation" then they have to show :
1) The source of this knowledge
2) The location of these "areas"
3) That they talked with or seen people that have gone to these places and have been able to establish (using testable and falsifiable means) that they actually went to these places.
4) Test that support these "claims" of knowledge and location.
Failing to do that (which all religions fail to do) then proves your beliefs are just that..beliefs.
Not facts.
And,frankly,beliefs w/o facts are anything in a range from opinions to fantasies.
People die and their bodies decompose.
Anything beyond those facts is opinion,speculation and fantasy.
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Posted: 1/10/2008 8:28:48 AM | Yes...actually you DO need to provide proof.
When you are making a claim (or claims) that are go beyond the observable norms,then you need to provide proof if you expect others to believe in the same.
No i DON'T need to do anything i don't want too.I also don't expect anyone to believe anything i believe.I don't care one way or another what you believe or what you do.You don't matter to me in the least.You could die your hair green,run down the street naked and i would not care because i do not know you and don't care about you or anything you say do or believe.End of discussion.
Funny but as i look through all my responses on this thread nowhere have i said exactly what my beliefs are.You are assuming things and that is not my problem.I have learned in here that you should not put down you exact beliefs on anything having to do with paranormal phenomenon or religion. | |
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Posted: 1/10/2008 11:12:19 PM |
I have learned in here that you should not put down you exact beliefs on anything having to do with paranormal phenomenon or religion.
You're free to believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy if you choose. But don't be surprised that others will laughed at you if you present no proof. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2008 10:43:30 AM | rated10, the guy was someone i had known fairly well for about 5 years, and he was very charming at first, i truly thought he was joking about tha lil guy on his shoulder that no one else could see or hear...it was presented as a joke, he said he told him what lottery numbers to choose and i was like yeah right, and you havent won the lottery yet?!...it was'nt until a later conversation that he said he wasnt joking.....up front you dont know everything about a person you date...so can the judgement attitutude, will ya.?
as for tha credentials of the photography school..i went to the local vocational college's photography classes...should i maybe have called Ghostbusters instead? there was a 5 pointed star, the letters AAA and an upside down angel on a cross that stood out very clearly in the mirror behind us when the picture was developed...and the film was developed at a local eckerds drugstore so i dont think it was tampered with nor do i see a reason for anyone to have tampered with it...there was a party going on and several ppl were photographed in the same spot and no other pictures had those symbols appear in the background....
it was just something that gave me the heebie jeebies at the time and thats what i thought this thread was about so i posted it..........
 have one on me...
hey iron...that tooth fairy simply teaches kids to exchange body parts for money! lol | |
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Posted: 1/11/2008 2:03:48 PM | | maybe you had a long sleeping spirit in your house... I read once that spirits can be awakened by the presence of a particuliar person, in this case this man...but even good people can awake spirits, theres no telling why certain people can do that. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2008 11:37:37 PM |
Can the judgemental attitude, will ya?!
Sorry. FYI it’s not judgemental: It’s questionable. I have a logical mind and like to use it – I don’t mean any harm.
I went to the local vocational college's photography classes.
Bingo! I’m sorry to say that you’re not going to get the expertise you desire from a community college; they simply won’t have the required skills or technology to meet your needs.
There was a 5 pointed star, the letters AAA and an upside down angel on a cross that stood out very clearly in the mirror behind us when the picture was developed.
Let me fill you in on these symbols:
The five-point star, a.k.a. the pentagram, is primarily a symbol for good. It was only deemed evil when it was misinterpreted by Christians and associated with Satanism.
The letters AAA are equivalent to the numbers 666, which are though to be the numbers of the Devil. Actually, 616 are the numbers of the Devil – the numbers were originally misinterpreted and later (much later) corrected by historians.
As for your upside-down angel on a cross: An upside-down cross is the classic satanic symbol, so that was a missed opportunity. The typical depiction of angels is also a misconception: Angels are said to have many wings; for instance, Muslims believe Gabriel to have six-hundred.
I’d also like to add that any supposed paranormal activity captured on film (static or motion) is never clear: The images always come out blurry, or at least in every picture I’ve seen.
The film was developed at a local eckerds drugstore so I don’t think it was tampered with nor do I see a reason for anyone to have tampered with it.
Humour, malice, experimentation… People have performed strange acts in the past which were far worse and more unbelievable than this one.
It was just something that gave me the heebie jeebies at the time and that’s what I thought this thread was about so I posted it.
It is, and thank you – it was a wonderful contribution; but this forum is also about opinions and part of differing opinions is debate. I’m offering my opinion, you don’t have to take it, but it’s there.
That tooth fairy simply teaches kids to exchange body parts for money!
Lol! At least they’re learning a trade. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 1:43:43 AM |
The letters AAA are equivalent to the numbers 666, which are though to be the numbers of the Devil. Actually, 616 are the numbers of the Devil – the numbers were originally misinterpreted and later (much later) corrected by historians.
Just curious if you have a source for the first one...never heard of it before and would be interested in knowing where you came by the association that AAA was an equivalent to 666.
Thanks
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Posted: 1/12/2008 4:21:25 AM |
Just curious if you have a source for the first one...never heard of it before and would be interested in knowing where you came by the association that AAA was an equivalent to 666.
http://members.aol.com/loveogod1/signs.htm | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 4:26:29 AM |
http://members.aol.com/loveogod1/signs.htm
You're kidding. Please, tell me you're kidding. Please tell me you aren't so hopelessly naive as to take something you read on some fundie's AOL Members' page (a poorly constructed and presented page, no less) as fact. See, I'm a bit tired at the moment, so if this was use of sarcasm, please say so. I'd hate to think that someone who claims to have a "logical mind" would make such a neophyte mistake. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 4:42:31 AM |
You're kidding. Please, tell me you're kidding. Please tell me you aren't so hopelessly naive as to take something you read on some fundie's AOL Members' page (a poorly constructed and presented page, no less) as fact. See, I'm a bit tired at the moment, so if this was use of sarcasm, please say so. I'd hate to think that someone who claims to have a "logical mind" would make such a neophyte mistake.
I needed to explain the letters 'AAA' in reference to the occult and that was the first mention of them that I came across. If you don't like it, do your own research. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 4:59:18 AM |  rated i took a peek at yer profile and yup, you got an anylytical mind..i love the sony MAN twist on yer profile
...as far as tha paranormal/demonic activity goes, i am sure there have been times when we all thought someone we broke up with was THAT evil but in most cases, its just wishful thinking....who knows, maybe its our insticts kicking in and telling us this person aint good fer me, but whatever it is, there are some couples who do seem to bring out the BAAAD in each other and should prolly be separated fer their own good! | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 7:33:09 AM |
Just curious if you have a source for the first one...never heard of it before and would be interested in knowing where you came by the association that AAA was an equivalent to 666. Why ere you so interested in knowing that, of all things?? | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 9:34:12 AM | Read Michael Bentine's books 'The Door Marked Summer' and 'Doors of the Mind'. Ok, so Michael Bentine was an actor and comedian, but also had a very brilliant mind.
His Father was a leading investigator of the paranormal, from a totally scientific standpoint, not a religious/spiritual one, and Michael was a part of many of the experiments, so writes from first hand experiences.
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