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Posted: 1/12/2008 1:16:30 PM |
http://members.aol.com/loveogod1/signs.htm
That page no longer comes up when I try to get it...
In any case, AAA, has no good reason to be associated with Satanic powers. Honestly in 20+ years of studying occultism, hermetic arts/magick, etc, that is the first time I have ever heard that association. If it is just the page of some fundamentalist with no good source data to back it up, I think I can safely give it a miss...I thought their might be some serious connection but I can rest easy not having missed anything. Frankly I can see no good reason to associate AAA with anything other than the American Automobile Association...
Perhaps someone has a grudge against them? | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 1:38:51 PM | From the op:
"After he was gone [very shortly again] after he was gone other things began to happen in the house. I will not type everything that occurred but there is no doubt in mind and understanding that I was being bothered by demons [whispering in my ear using his voice - apparitions] etc ..."
Please be assured there are no demons, only bad spirits which occupy or once occupied the bodies of bad people. I had similar experiences with someone I was once involved with. She was capable of something called "conscious astral projection" which, I've read, is something that can be learned by anyone, although I'd say it is in the realm of the occult. It's quite possible that your former mate is capable of this as well although in his case if he's never taken a course in it (Please search: Robert Monroe) he might be projecting unconsciously as in during sleep. As it takes a sympathetic body for him to manifest himself with you in the ways that he did, you were his medium.
The best remedy is a sincere request to God for help from your spirit guide (Holy Spirit) who will drive the intruder away. Ask also for forgetfulness of him.
These things are happening in part to lead you to trust and obey God. You will be glad for these correcting occurrences when you depart for the heavenly spheres | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 2:04:34 PM | i have a lens into the spirit world
i can tell you
most people have demons in their homes
demons are everywhere
they are blobs of bad energies, areas that are broken, corrupted, incomplete, unwhole, in chaos not-abiding by the order (in so far as much as that is possible)
OP- relationships always excite demons.
and when people have demons in their homes and in their lives, they often swell during relationships.
honesty is the only thing that kills demons.
and honesty requires a genuine sincere sense of true love.
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Posted: 1/12/2008 4:30:16 PM |
That page no longer comes up when I try to get it...
Try it in another browser as it works fine for me in Firefox. Here’s the extract:
666 -The number of man. The mark of the Beast. Revelation 12:18
( Or connected 000, connected AAA, 999 in circles and many different presentation (shapes.) Usually connected. Many different shapes looped together in disguised threes.)
In any case, AAA, has no good reason to be associated with Satanic powers.
And Satanic powers have no good reason to be believed, period. The fact that AAA can be found as a reference to Satanism online is evidence that anyone could find it and use it to pretend that demonic activity is in effect. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 5:17:42 PM |
Try it in another browser as it works fine for me in Firefox. Here’s the extract:
firefox worked...
Well that gave me a good laugh. Some "person" makes up a bunch of stuff...takes a bunch of symbology and in their unreferenced, unsupported opinion, says it all connects to Satan, so it does. If you buy that line of reasoning, then certainly, you COULD look on a website and make such an association...
If you were a goober hillbilly who simply believed everything you read on websites without vetting it or at least looking for some sources.
Of course, anyone who seriously knew the subject matter would spot you as a fraud from the get go. Considering in oh...4000 years of written history, associating an evil entity with the first letter of the Semetic-derived alphabet has never been done and this goof is the first (and seemingly only one) to do it because...oh...it kinda visually looks like a 6 in a Rorshach-kinda way...
Yeah that makes sense.
AAA...it is to laugh.
I'll remember to mention that one to Satan the next time I lock my keys in my car or my battery needs a charge...
Considering he also uses the "morning star" reference in the Hebrew Bible and thinks this has anything to do with the Christian devil...I'll look elsewhere for accurate information on anything thanks. Probably couldn't find his a** with both hands. | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 6:27:05 PM |
Why ere you so interested in knowing that, of all things??
See message 92. Thanks doll, but I got precisely Jack from that post..
Mad fiddler! You answer me or I'll start randomly quotin' scripture in every thread you're in, man, I mean it!! Dont make me!!
No really, you didn't answer as to why you cared? Why interest in this "enemy of the idiots"? (Your sometimes odd infatuation of things of Luci has my curiosity sparked.... | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 6:35:36 PM |
Mad fiddler! You answer me or I'll start randomly quotin' scripture in every thread you're in, man, I mean it!! Dont make me!!
DA... fancy wanting to fiddle with the fiddler... shame on ya gal. 
Especially when you know my sticks are free. ;) | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 6:52:30 PM | You want to play with fiddler's sticks?... ("fiddlesticks")
Nooo, I'm not annoyed... he's a fine curiosity!
Okay, I know... it's past my bedtime  | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 8:43:04 PM |
No really, you didn't answer as to why you cared? Why interest in this "enemy of the idiots"? (Your sometimes odd infatuation of things of Luci has my curiosity sparked....
Don't get me wrong disaronno... I consider myself an opponant of things that are evil. But for me, ignorance is one of those things that I consider evil...I also recall words in Isaiah 5:20 " Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that change darkness into light, and light into darkness; that change bitter into sweet, and sweet into bitter!"
That's why I believe that checking your sources is so important. Making up junk just because you "feel like it" and then claiming the "spirit moved you" should be regarded, imho, as not just lying by believers, but as nothing less than blasphemy. At the very least it is crass stupidity and deliberately leading people astray.
This is par for the course for a lot of religious teachers I have found who discourage honest and open debate, asking of questions and free thought in the church. That's another area of debate however...
Specifically regarding the symbols of Satanic material, in checking the source of this noted website, most of it is convoluted nonsense, no citations to back it up and a whole lot of the website maker's personal bias and lack of knowledge about world religions and the history of the occult and specifically Satanism.
The "AAA" stuff piqued my curiousity because as I said after 20+ years of personal sudy and research I had never heard of it before and was curious if for some remote reason there was a little grain of information that I had not been privy to. I always like to learn something new every day.
I was disappointed but not too surprised to find that the page contained a bunch of useless and silly claptrap. So my search for more information continues. I have no specific curiousity about Satan, or Satanism, but it is one of the many subjects that crop up in my personal study of world religion, history, mysticism and the occult.
I hope that answers your question satisfactorily...anything else, please send to email  | |
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Posted: 1/13/2008 5:31:41 AM |
Why ere you so interested in knowing that, of all things??
See message 92.
Thanks doll, but I got precisely Jack from that post..
Ok maybe I'll spell it out for you then. The whole AAA business started when ladydi posted message 92 and told her story about what was in a photo she had developed. The whole answer was not in post 92, it was a reference point. Was just trying to help you out since you seemed unable to figure out how AAA got into the conversation. Hope that gives you more than "Jack".
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Posted: 1/13/2008 3:38:48 PM | | YOu are right a Demonic spirit can enter your home or your body calling on negative problems will arise for the Father &Son exsist to everyone who will except | |
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Posted: 1/14/2008 12:38:14 PM | | Wow - this thread is perfect for flagging all of the nutjobs that are on this site. LOL | |
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Posted: 1/14/2008 9:15:05 PM |
Wow - this thread is perfect for flagging all of the nutjobs that are on this site. LOL
So what colour flag can we put you down for then?
bwahaha!
Couldn't resist sorry, you kinda walked into it...
But seriously...Mauve? Strawberry? Ultraviolet? Electric banana? | |
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Posted: 1/14/2008 9:48:45 PM |
So what colour flag can we put you down for then?
I think that shudrunanow, is a nice shade of pink for him. ;)
Wow - this thread is perfect for flagging all of the nutjobs that are on this site. LOL Nutjobs, on a Demonic thread? Nooo...
YOu are right a Demonic spirit can enter your home or your body calling on negative problems will arise for the Father &Son exsist to everyone who will except Anyone who lacks the "sealing of His Spirit" is usable by demons when needed. No permission, allegiance, or even knowledge is required.
Ok maybe I'll spell it out for you then. The whole AAA business started when ladydi posted message 92 and told her story about what was in a photo she had developed. The whole answer was not in post 92, it was a reference point. Was just trying to help you out since you seemed unable to figure out how AAA got into the conversation. Hope that gives you more than "Jack"
Caring nothing about the letters AAA, I ask Fiddler to share with me, why he often speaks/inquires of demons/Satan , when he has labeled them as "fairy tale creatures of the delusional". | |
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Posted: 1/14/2008 10:56:09 PM |
Caring nothing about the letters AAA, I ask Fiddler to share with me, why he often speaks/inquires of demons/Satan , when he has labeled them as "fairy tale creatures of the delusional".
I don't recall saying or suggesting anything of the sort. Actually if those words ever escaped my fingers it would be only in the context that just because someone believes that demons and Satan are real because they have faith that they are real or because they have faith that the Bible is the word of God and as such, describing such things as real, renders them real (never mind the logical fallacy therein) that there is no reason to accept this "belief" as anything other than a delusion.
I accept that in faiths of all types there is a belief in the non-physical world and that people may believe in discarnate entities like ghosts, fairies, demons and angels. However, when people speak of these things with any certainty, or rather with any lack of doubt or humility or any observation of the chance that their senses might be fooled then again I have to assume they are either being deliberately ignorant or deluded. Anyone who has done a bit of self examination should be aware of the possibility of their senses fallibility and the susceptibility to post-hoc fallacy and wishful thinking.
I would never encourage anything other than a healthy skepticism and the ability to suggest that answering a question "I don't know, but I am ok with that" is a good answer.
When people answer based on only their personal faith on issues of spirituality that are essentially intangible and unprovable, yet answer often with smug certainty that their way is the "true" way or more silly, the "Only True Way" then I would suggest that they are labouring under a delusion. This is especially the case when they assert that on their faith alone they can be certain of their conclusion that they are right and all others are wrong with no other corroboration - no more sure sign of delusional beliefs than this.
I use Occam's Razor, the scientific method, and reason to answer my questions about the world around me but I don't limit my understanding of the possibilities in the world around me. That said, Occam's Razor shaves pretty fine. You don't postulate additional entities, forces, bogeymen, etc. when none are needed, and you eliminate the more probable causes first before attributing things to the "supernatural"...that's an awful fine filter for me before it ever gets there. I suspect for some people it is not nearly so rigourous a procedure to just allow the supernatural in and thus miss the forest for the trees. | |
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Posted: 1/14/2008 11:33:52 PM | I don't recall saying or suggesting anything of the sort
I'm so glad that I opted to skip the nap in Behavioral Psychology this semester. How useful it's babble has proven to be. ;)
[By stating ones recollection of memory, in this format, when questioned, said person exposes doubt, attempting to create an umbrella.]
Never a solid start, but let us continue.
When people answer based on only their personal faith on issues of spirituality that are essentially intangible and unprovable, yet answer often with smug certainty that their way is the "true" way or more silly, the "Only True Way" then I would suggest that they are labouring under a delusion What purpose do you think this serves for them and what attributes do they show that strike you as "smug"?
This is especially the case when they assert that on their faith alone they can be certain of their conclusion Err..after finding and experiencing happiness, or peace, I will share with others by what means I obtained it. I see no need to search for alternative experiences when I am satisfied with what I have found, nor direct others to what I know not..
- no more sure sign of delusional beliefs than this.
Delusional? Why that word? That is such a popular adjective used by those who disagree with others who claim faith in the Unseen....odd, that.
*in deep thought*
I use Occam's Razor, the scientific method, and reason to answer my questions about the world around me but I don't limit my understanding of the possibilities in the world around me Do you assume I do not?
Assuming that those who have found answers about their world and/or God have limited their possibilities of discovering more is a generalization, and I, personally, have found those to be  | |
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Posted: 1/14/2008 11:41:51 PM | I don't recall saying or suggesting anything of the sort
I'm so glad that I opted to skip the nap in Behavioral Psychology this semester. How useful it's babble has proven to be.
[By stating ones recollection of memory, in this format, when questioned, said person exposes doubt, attempting to create an umbrella.]
Never a solid start, but let us continue.
When people answer based on only their personal faith on issues of spirituality that are essentially intangible and unprovable, yet answer often with smug certainty that their way is the "true" way or more silly, the "Only True Way" then I would suggest that they are labouring under a delusion What purpose do you think this serves for them and what attributes appear as "smug"?
This is especially the case when they assert that on their faith alone they can be certain of their conclusion Err..after finding and experiencing happiness, or peace, I will share with others by what means I obtained it. I see no need to search for alternative experiences when I am satisfied with what I have found, nor direct others to what I know not..
- no more sure sign of delusional beliefs than this.
Delusional??.. That is such a popular adjective used by those who disagree with others who claim faith in the Unseen....odd, that.
*in deep thought* I wonder why??
I use Occam's Razor, the scientific method, and reason to answer my questions about the world around me but I don't limit my understanding of the possibilities in the world around me Assuming that those who have found answers about their world/Spiritual world have limited their possibilities of discovering more is a generalization, and I have found those to be
Now, back to where we began by avoiding, so cleverly, ;)
I ask Fiddler to share with me, why he often speaks/inquires of demons/Satan , when he has labeled them as "fairy tale creatures of the delusional". | |
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Posted: 1/15/2008 12:32:20 AM |
I'm so glad that I opted to skip the nap in Behavioral Psychology this semester. How useful it's babble has proven to be.
[By stating ones recollection of memory, in this format, when questioned, said person exposes doubt, attempting to create an umbrella.]
Never a solid start, but let us continue.
I have made my position quite clear so creating an imaginary position that I have not taken and ascribing it to me is not really very appropriate. Given the sheer number of posts I contribute to on this subject, the fact that I don't remember being taken out of context by someone before is hardly surprising...I suggest sticking with the discussion and leave the behavioural psychology to those actually in the profession, not undergraduate students making groundless assumptions based on an internet forum conversation
Moving along...
What purpose do you think this serves for them and what attributes appear as "smug"?
Personal re-affirmation of a meme.
Err..after finding and experiencing happiness, or peace, I will share with others by what means I obtained it. I see no need to search for alternative experiences when I am satisfied with what I have found, nor direct others to what I know not..
That's nice but not what was up for discussion. And as I said there is a difference between presenting beliefs as beliefs to be shared and absolute ineffable certainties by which all others are wrong. BY ALL MEANS if one's personal beliefs give them comfort and they believe that this can be shared with others without causing them harm, then why not share them? I have no problem with that...so long as they are honest about the faith-based nature of them and do not mislabel a belief as a fact.
And we get back here into the area of exclusivity of truth...and in the area of demon activity and the paranormal, what an absurd notion for someone to try and harbour ot begin with. How could you possibly believe that any notions you have are the absolute only truth, simply because they are based on your faith and that alone? That lack of any doubt is not healthy.
Delusional??.. That is such a popular adjective used by those who disagree with others who claim faith in the Unseen....odd, that.
*in deep thought* I wonder why??
You seem to have selective reading in what I am saying. The issue is not belief in the unseen or faith in the unseen...it is absolute certainty and a lack of healthy doubt. That is delusional and it is a very apt word because it fits the medical and psychological description. Even in the DSM which has culturally adjusted its definitions of "magical thinking" to be culturally sensitive to those who have a magical view of the universe, including the religiously minded, a completely doubt-free view of anything based entirely without replicable evidence is not regarded as a healthy mindset - thus the term.
There may be no objective reality at all to these supposedly paranormal experiences; however, that does not make them in their own way any less real to those that experience them, or invalid. They could be very real experiences. But do we automatically make the assumption of a "demon-haunted world?" Perhaps the events only occur in the mind. Perhaps there is another subtle layer to the mind that modern science does not understand and perhaps there is even a supernatural layer to existence. But certainly any one religion answering in the affirmative and saying "it's our way or the highway, because we believe it...and if you don't you'll burn" is not in any way a sensible or fact based answer.
I have not avoided the question at all...I don't think it can be answered anymore succinctly than I have in fact, and any further q & a should be taken to email because I think it is getting wildly off-topic at this point. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2008 2:51:00 AM | I have not had any personal experience with this particular problem. Was he living a secret, occultic type lifestyle? If he were, it is possible that he opened a door for a demon to torment you. Without knowing more about what specific things led you to believe him to be evil, it's hard to say. The bible describes satan as the most beautiful angel in heaven, so it would fit that he manipulated people with a smile on his face. If he were a jerk or appeared shady it would have been more difficult to manipulate them so easily.
Also it unclear if you attributed these occurances to him at the time or later as you began to connect the dots. It could be that you gave some of that energy to an entity that had been present all along, but was too weak to manifest itself. It could have manipulated it's voice to sound like your ex.
However, if it was in actuality a demonic force you would continue to be tormented and by this time you would be a wreck.
I believe that you were experiencing a stress reaction due to the fact that you had endured 3 yrs of this guy. If he was using other people as you say, then he undoubtedly was doing the same to you.
He sounds more like a sociopath than evil. IMHO | |
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Posted: 9/21/2008 11:14:50 AM | Oh wow, that's so sad. I'm sorry.
I've done a lot of reading on the paranormal, and I've come to realize that anything's possible.
I also believe that there is so much more going on around us then meets the eye. (And in learning that, I've also discovered there are really close-minded people in the world who only believe what they see. Like some of the commenters here prove.)
Have you considered learning more about spirituality to ward off evil? I don't mean spells, but learning more about angels and getting them to protect you against whatever evil may be surrounding you. Maybe even contacting a priest or reverend to conduct an exorcist.
Good-luck and take care!  | |
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Posted: 9/26/2008 10:17:47 AM | Ultimately, if you believe in God, you are taught to believe in the Devil. Therefore the possibility of demons existing is very probable. I have open ended faiths, and believe that exorcisms and possessions do happen. There has been reported cases world wide of exorcisms of people in all cultures and religions. Possessions can happen whether you believe or not in them.
I think possessions are often confused with mental disorders. How patients with serious life threatening mental disorders are never fully cured? How many unexplained cases are there? Why can't cures be found?
Exorcisms have been used in the past as kind of a placebo effect on mental patients. If a person believes they are possessed, the idea is that the exorcism will relieve them of the demon that possesses them. Or at least make them think the demon is released.
I think there are too many things in this world we do not fully understand, and are not meant to understand. If you survey a 100 different people on whether exorcisms are possible or not...you're going to get a 100 different responses. | |
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Posted: 10/1/2008 6:08:41 PM | If one considers themselves scientific, one would also undertsand the limitations of empirical understanding. If a scientist simply said "that stuff does not exist", that person would talking out of their ass. The best answer any scientist can give is "I don't know, there is no empirical evidence to support the existence of anything spiritual, and our current understanding of science has no viable methods of testing such enigmatic ideas".
While im a believer in scientific principles, I also understand there are many things in (and outside) of our universe that is not understood at all. Things that can't be rationalized by math (yet).
So are you hearing demons? Mabey, mabey not. You shouldn't jump to conclusions. Before entertaining any sort of paranormal source to this phenomenon - one should really try to investigate and reflect on natural causes (both physical and mental stress can cause the human body to behave strangley - it's a good idea to get regular checkups and talk with your doctor about what you're experiencing). If all natural causes can be ruled out, and the phenomenon increases in severity - That's when some spiritual help might be required. | |
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