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| Sue Your Drug Dealer ? Posted: 1/13/2008 7:00:56 AM | sticking up for ilegal drug dealer's,,something fishy,, the only thing "fishy" is your reading comprehension. Nobody in this thread stuck up for an illegal drug dealer.
it is illegal...determined by our fellow peers Yes it is illegal to sell meth. But, it's also illegal to buy meth. The point of people's posts in this thread was: this woman, as an adult, also knowingly broke the law, and she is refusing to be accountable for her own actions.
I'm aware that meth is illegal, and I'd like to see the dealers punished. I personally believe that our society (who pays for the overall social costs that result from the use of drugs like meth) has some right to hold dealers responsible.
I fail to see why an individual, who, as an adult began knowingly taking drugs, has a right to be financially compensated for chosing to break the law herself?
can any of you imagine someone you love being on death's door from something ilegal can you imagine this situation? (a real situation that's happened in my life) An elderly relative who's close to you is rushed by ambulance to the emergency ward, needing life-saving surgery. After arriving at the hospital, they're forced to wait, because the emergency ward is full of overdose victims. In some way, it's pretty hard to accept the fact, that this person (who's led a pretty respectable life, and been a possitive contributer to society) has to wait in line for life-saving surgery, behind someone who knowingly went out abusing an illegal substance to cause their condition.
something ilegal that we are supposed to be protected from Dangers like meth are out there. Our governments try to protect us by making them illegal, spreading information about their dangers, hiring police to attempt to enforce the laws. Individuals try to protect others by educating youth about the dangers of such drugs. But, after all that, these substances are still out there, and we have to have some responsibility to protect ourselves.
I feel sympathetic, when I hear of a young person, being exposed to a substance like meth, as our society has failed to protect that youngster. (The nephew refered to in post 25 is a perfect example of a youngster who could be considered a victim)
But according to any information I've found on the Sandy Bergen incident, the woman began using meth as an adult.
,,,you think he doing this for nothing,,think he is upstanding citizen,is he someone you would want your daughter to bring home,think he has not made money off selling drugs Where in this thread, did you see anyone refering to him as an upstanding citizen? I re-read the entire thread and missed it. Please cite which post you were refering to???
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| This story has a long reach! Posted: 1/27/2008 7:54:24 AM | First off as far as I am concerned this whole thing was a criminal matter, and if the police did not have enough to make a charge stick then it should have stopped there!
We are becoming a society that cannot take responsibility for our actions, and that is a sad world to send the next generation into!
I was recently in Pasco Washington, just across the river from Oregon having a bite to eat in a restaurant, there was a little local newspaper with this story in it
Personally I think it makes us look like idiots, once I can scan it I will post the story if anyone wants to read it.
Doing the math on this one is pretty tough...
Adult goes and buys drugs + Overdoses on said drugs = Sues drug dealer for $50 000.00..... And WINS!
What this personally says to me is that I can go out and do Illegal things, blame it on someone eles and profit from it!
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| This story has a long reach! Posted: 2/1/2008 11:55:35 AM | We all have the right to put what ever we want into our bodies. Nobody should tell us different, or make us do anything we do not want want to do. She bought the drugs from the drug dealer, it was her choice. If the drug dealer shoved it into her, then it would be a different story. She made a choice, and she has to live with that choice. Or die because of it. It was HER choice.
Come to think of it, I don't see any tobacco companies, or Alcohol companies owners going to jail? Alcohol and cigarettes cause more deaths than all illegal drugs combined. What a screwed up world we live in. Maybe the Beer company that sold their pruduct to the driver that killed my cousin in a drunk driving accident should goto jail. Or maybe it was the drivers choice to buy the product and drive that night.
Heres a cool law fact for you to ponder over: Did you know a-lot of drug dealers get more time in prison than child molesters. If that isn't screwed up, then I don't know what is. There are even drug dealers that get more time than murders! Like WTF? | |
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| This story has a long reach! Posted: 2/2/2008 3:47:15 PM | ^^^ ragtopjrz What it means is that if you take part in criminal activity that causes harm to someone, you can be held personally liable. I agree whole-heatedly. Selling drugs is illegal. | |
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| This story has a long reach! Posted: 2/8/2008 12:22:58 PM | And so is purchasing said drugs....
How does it make any sense in this world where you can "Profit" from commiting an illegal act?
She was a big girl who commited a felony of her own volition, and after taking "too much" of an illegal substance (overdose) went into a coma.
Now what makes the person who sold her an illegal drug more responsible then herself. She not only purchased the illegal substance but then took it knowing full well the risks involved.
I am not saying that the drug dealer should not have been punished, but it should be the Police pressing criminal charges, and like anyone else in society have his day in court!
The fact that this woman has won a case such as this this which just shows that every action does not neccesarily have consequences in the end | |
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| This story has a long reach! Posted: 2/10/2008 2:50:15 PM | Actually, under Canadian tort law, as I understand it, you can recover damages only. You can't profit, so that argument in specious.
I understand the court has the option of mitigating the award to less than claimed amount where the claimant is found to be partially responsible for the damage. *** from Wikipedia: In England the more recent case of Caparo v.****an [1990] introduced a 'threefold' test for a duty of care. Harm must be (1) reasonably foreseeable (2) there must be a relationship of proximity between the plaintiff and defendant and (3) it must be 'fair, just and reasonable' to impose liability. *** I think requirement (1) & (2) were obviously met. Requirement (3) is the one that might be viewed as contentious. The court, obviously found it fair, just and reasonable to impose liability. To me (with little available information regarding this case) the resulting ruling seems obvious. | |
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| Sue Your Drug Dealer ? Posted: 9/22/2008 9:28:36 AM | Why not sue the Dealer? Lets make them responsible for their actions. I know this girl thru mutal friends of the parents. What they did was profound. If only most parents of the drug addicted child would have the courage to do the same. I have had a similar experience(parent of addicted child). I had the house condemned, the young children in the home removed and placed in proper care. My child was lodged in jail then moved on to detox. The dealers and makers of this killer drug should be responsible....it starts with the maker and ends up in our childrens bodies. The courts should hold them liable for their actions. Its a start to help end the death of so many innocent lives they're (makers and dealers) taking. There are far too many addicts in our justice system and not enough of the dealers. Our country needs better control with the sales of the products that are used to make this *hit! As this drug can be hidden in pot. Which most kids now use. You don't know the whole story to this young girl's tragic experience. I stand and applaud this family for their heroic actions. They have set the precedent!  | |
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