| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/21/2008 7:53:49 PM |
What's up with this hang up on Caucasian women? I have seen many threads on here from Asian men whining that Caucasian women aren't interested in them or they can only attract Caucasian women who are not attractive. I have also seen a number of posts from Asian men complaining that when they write to White women they don't respond.
I think its just frustration - whilst I'd agree that there is no point whining there is probably some basis for the frustration. Consider the following - I'm an asian male living in melbourne, australia (probably one of the better multicultural places around the world) - I'm also not a 'FOB'. Over the years I've messaged a fair few women (both asian and caucasian) and whilst response rates arent great I am a lot more likely to get a response from an asian girl. As an example of the ratios I might get 1 caucasian girl responding for every 30-50 asian girls (assuming an equal number of emails sent).
The problem with being asian is that, assuming the girl gets past the picture, an initial email or profile on a dating site seldom conveys to the reader what type of asian you are - FOB, 1st gen, 2nd gen etc - it seldom conveys how asian or western you are, your values etc - if you somehow managed to do all that in an initial email or your profile its probably a bit too long to catch peoples attention anyway :)
In contrast, if one saw a picture of a caucasian girl one would normally assume she was raised in the country and not a FOB :P | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/21/2008 9:00:35 PM | Think your right, I do get a lot more looks from asian girls then white girls, but on the flipside Black girls seem to be 10x more aggressive when approaching me then white or asian girls.
Usually I just end up dating white girls though, because 95% of the population where I live is white. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/21/2008 10:30:18 PM |
The problem with being asian is that, assuming the girl gets past the picture, an initial email or profile on a dating site seldom conveys to the reader what type of asian you are - FOB, 1st gen, 2nd gen etc - it seldom conveys how asian or western you are, your values etc.
"The problem with being Asian"?
If you think being Asian is the problem, you've already defeated yourself. I am as Asian as it comes but when I put myself out there, my ethnicity doesn't even enter my mind. It's really not about how westernized you think you may be or may not be. It's about knowing (and showing) what women find attractive, specifically Caucasian women if that's who you're after. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/22/2008 12:01:47 AM |
"The problem with being Asian"?
heh - I apologise for forgetting quotation marks when writing the 'problem' with being asian - I certainly dont see being asian as a problem as a person, however the statement was with reference to the initial posters comments regardings finding a caucasian girl and in the context of an online dating site (as opposed to in person) - nothing to do with being westernised but a lot to do with finding people with common interests.
I'm surprised you came to the conclusion that you did given that my post makes no reference to trying to meet caucasian or indeed any women offline - that is where one putting oneself out there becomes important though arguably after a few minutes of talking to an asian person most people would already have a good idea whether the person is FOB or 2nd generation etc | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/22/2008 12:23:13 AM |
Only asking this because i'm asian and can't bear to ;
date female caucasians whom i don't find attractive
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comply to the trap of "sticking" to ones own race which further promotes divides.
Wow. Asians LOOOOVE whitey! Anyway...if you think it's so clever to date caucasian women so that it won't promote division, have you ever thought about dating other races of women that aren't caucasian? Black women? Latina women? Middle-Eastern women? Yeah...that's what I thought. Just say you're physically attracted to Caucasian women and be done with it. Don't pee on our backs and tell us it's raining. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/23/2008 10:29:25 AM |
heh - I apologise for forgetting quotation marks when writing the 'problem' with being asian - I certainly dont see being asian as a problem as a person, however the statement was with reference to the initial posters comments regardings finding a caucasian girl and in the context of an online dating site (as opposed to in person) - nothing to do with being westernised but a lot to do with finding people with common interests.
I'm surprised you came to the conclusion that you did given that my post makes no reference to trying to meet caucasian or indeed any women offline - that is where one putting oneself out there becomes important though arguably after a few minutes of talking to an asian person most people would already have a good idea whether the person is FOB or 2nd generation etc
I guess on the internet, it's sometimes hard to convey what you really mean. When I first read your "the problem with being Asian" line, I thought it was another typical whine by an Asian guy. I am tired of the whining and thought I would offer a different take on this subject.
Anyway, the point is, online dating is already difficult enough. It's all the more difficult for an Asian man who prefers to date Caucasian women because a lot of people are just not into interracial dating and/or relationship. But instead of coming on here sulking "oh poor me", take a more progressive approach and try to figure out how to play 'the hand you're dealt'. I am Asian and my photos clearly show that I am one, and still I get way more Caucasian women writing to me than Asians. To me, it has nothing to do with race. It's how one presents himself. Yes, I go through dry spells and let-downs, probably not unlike everyone else. But I focus on what women seek in a man besides the obvious physical features and so far, I think that's working out real well. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/23/2008 10:37:02 AM | I had a question why don't Asian Women talk to guys with kids. They might find someone that would be good for them. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/23/2008 10:41:31 AM | There is't any thing wrong with being Asian. Its no differnt than being Caucasian or black, or purple, The inside matters more than the outside. Plus look at the name Cauc/Asian | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/23/2008 10:46:28 AM | OP, only asian male Ive seen with caucasian woman, was 17 yrs ago. They had two beautiful children. Something she use to say "when we kiss. it's funny, our faces dont fit. His nose is fat, mine pointy, so we have to turn sideways", you made me just remember that. She commented on that , alot, for some reason.
Anyway, I see the trend, is the other way. All the caucasian men are dating glamerous asian females. And I can hear them talking, as I walk. (I live in shopping district) I cant believe how many times, I overear... 'no, I dont like that' from the girl, and the guy 'well, ok, but I do, sorry, we wont go in then'
And the caucasian guys are carrying all the bags, and her purse!! I wonder how their doing it?
Social stigma, not this time. Recall when caucasian soldiers brought home asian wives... And remember when Black men started dating caucasian girls!! Lord, Jerry Springer show was on fire with that. LOL
edit: just recalled.. the word 'egg' for those asians who are yellow on inside and try to be with, or was it act like white/caucasian ... seems, that was something to have ones friends call them that? is that still true? hope not. if thats whats stoping you... well call me, maybe I'll date ya?? me never know | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/23/2008 10:49:33 AM |
all the more difficult for an Asian man who prefers to date Caucasian women because a lot of people are just not into interracial dating and/or relationship.
So I ask again, if you KNOW that, for the most part, Caucasian women aren't going to prefer you, why the refusal to consider women who are Black, Middle Eastern, Latina, East Indian, etc., etc.? It seems like just plain crazy behaviour to whine that people are discriminating against YOU based on race and then turn around and discriminate against OTHERS who would be open to dating you based on race. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/23/2008 10:58:54 AM | | why don't you try concentrating on personalty, looks fade dude ! nobody looks glamorous when their old and wrinkled , but they will always have a beautiful mind. true beauty isn't on the outside ! | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/23/2008 1:08:07 PM |
It seems to me that asian males are usually dating " non glamorous "caucasian females or glamorous caucasian females who have no intention with sticking with them.Well here in the UK anyway.
Not true at all, if I ever marry I only plan to do it once that's it so I better do it right. I don't take marriage lightly, I don't commit easily either though. Generalizing a group of people is far from accurate what you have seen and experienced is only a tiny portion, even in the UK. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/23/2008 10:12:39 PM |
So I ask again, if you KNOW that, for the most part, Caucasian women aren't going to prefer you, why the refusal to consider women who are Black, Middle Eastern, Latina, East Indian, etc., etc.? It seems like just plain crazy behaviour to whine that people are discriminating against YOU based on race and then turn around and discriminate against OTHERS who would be open to dating you based on race.
Did I say I would refuse to consider women who are Black, Middle Eastern, Latina and etc.? Was I the one that whine about being overlooked because of my race?
No I did not and I was not.
I stand by my statement. A lot of people are indeed not interested in interracial dating and/or relationship. I accept that as a fact of life without passing judgment even though I would not hesitate to date outside of my race. If a Black or Middle Eastern or Latina or East Indian woman would express interest in me (and none have yet), I would give her the same due consideration as I would for a Caucasian or Asian woman. In fact, I did try to initiate contact with a Middle Eastern lady once, but all I got was read/delete. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/23/2008 10:15:47 PM | Did I say I would refuse to consider women who are Black, Middle Eastern, Latina and etc.? Was I the one that whine about being overlooked because of my race?
No. I wasn't talking about you but about numerous posts I have seen by others in the forums. I guess I should have said:
"So I ask again, if an Asian guy KNOWS that, for the most part, Caucasian women aren't going to prefer him, why the refusal to consider women who are Black, Middle Eastern, Latina, East Indian, etc., etc.? It seems like just plain crazy behaviour to whine that people are discriminating against YOU based on race and then turn around and discriminate against OTHERS who would be open to dating Asian men if they are not White." | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 2/24/2008 7:19:20 AM | Don't worry my Asian brother. When mainland Chinese culture replaces its Western counterpart as the world's most visible culture... the world's female sheeple population will flock toward Asian men. Not too sure if you'll want to be with women who can't see that they have no minds but that call will be yours.
For now, just celebrate the new lunar year and forget about races! | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 8/19/2008 3:59:52 PM | I've dated Asian men before and when we talk about them dating white women, they often tell me that White women are often not attracted to them. I am a mixture of Native american ( which I relate a lot too)_ Black and White. I guess when we date, they are getting the best of all 3 worlds. They can just choose what woman they want at the time and we go from there.....just kidding.
Once you get past the racial boundaries, they tend too, just like me, not relate because of any gene pool we have. It becomes just a man with a woman. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 8/19/2008 4:00:39 PM | I knew an Asian guy who had a very pretty and intelligent Caucasian girlfriend. It happens. The guy was pretty exceptional though - grounded, attractive, confident, well-read, creative with a very artsy side even though he was an engineer. Hehe, I'm a Chinese woman and even I would have dated him, and I don't date Chinese guys!  Hehe, sorry I couldn't resist. These whiny threads from Asian males are often about how Asian girls go only for Caucasian guys and not Asian guys. It's funny to see a thread about an Asian guy only wanting to go for Caucasian girls for once. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 8/19/2008 5:48:39 PM |
I'm a Chinese woman and even I would have dated him, and I don't date Chinese guys!
So seeing him (Chinese male) with a white girl have you seeing no problem dating him even though you don't date Chinese guys? How does that work, I don't get it? Are the reasons you don't date Chinese guys is because the majority of Chinese guys are nerdy, dorky, uptight, unexciting? And since this guy doesn't fit that stereotype he is considered okay to date? | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 8/19/2008 6:09:05 PM | | I am attracted to asian men - but they never talk to me so .... what's a girl to do? I make my own money, pay my own bills, don't ever intend on a man to do anything for me but love me well. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 8/19/2008 6:19:00 PM | | I worked with a woman who was married to an Asian man for many years... they had two beautiful kids and were quite happy. She is pretty, makes a good living and is a kind woman with integrity. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 8/19/2008 10:19:05 PM | I find it strange that when someone prefers a woman who is slim and/or blonde and/or blue-eyed etc. etc. everyone's quick to point out "preferences" of "physical attraction" and how important they are. So on and so forth.
But when the issue of racial preference comes into it, people are largely denounced. Isn't that really the same sort of physical preference? | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 8/20/2008 4:40:38 AM | | I have a few nationalities in me too. I agree with kayfay the area where you live can affect your dating possibilities. Stereotyping still rules my area. Hmmm, maybe I should move to Washington too? | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 6/26/2009 5:12:01 PM | | hmm i live in a relatively small city in Canada compared to Toronto, Vancouver and such. But I know at least 5 asian guy/white girl married couples and quite a lot of couples like them now here. I guess Canada is more open to that than in the US. And they all seem very happy to be together still. I mean races don't matter that much, if they didn't love each other, they wouldn't have married at first. | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 6/26/2009 6:04:16 PM | Only seen it once. Was a guy I shared an apartment with. He was computer science major, pretty timid but tried to be social. She was real pretty. Friendly to be around, charming demeanor. I was really happy for em.
Then one day I saw my roommate with a horrifically gory cold sore, and I understood :( | |
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| Asians and caucasians.
Posted: 6/26/2009 9:09:45 PM | | I'm Asian and was engaged to a very attractive blue-eyed blonde for four years. Didn't work out too well, but we have a beautiful daughter. | |
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