| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 5/15/2008 8:18:56 PM |
today I was in the parking garage looking for a spot to park and as I turn a tight corner I find a woman driving with one hand, the other holding a cell phone coming the other way. Totally stupid!
I'm sorry, but what is the speed limit in your parking garage? | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 5/16/2008 10:45:01 AM | I'm sorry, but what is the speed limit in your parking garage?
I cant believe all these idiots who think they can control a car with one hand. Can you turn tight corners with one hand? Change gear, indicate and steer? | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 5/16/2008 11:23:45 AM | ^^^^^ Don't you guys drive on the wrong side of the road??
And if you can't drive with one hand, you are an inexperienced driver that probably drives 20 kms under the speed limit like my 80 yr old grandmother used to do!!! | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 5/16/2008 1:18:44 PM | I cant believe all these idiots who think they can control a car with one hand. Can you turn tight corners with one hand? Change gear, indicate and steer?
The flaws in this are you ASSUME everyone drives a standard, also how can you comment on anyones abilities but your own. I very much doubt you've test everyone on their ability to handle a car in a parking garage. I drive with one hand and operate my signals as will with one hand... I drive an Automatic. I'm not an idiot as you might suggest, for one you do not me and what because I do something you can not do I'm less intelligent or incontrol of myself/car? Also I might add I've never had/caused an accident, sure that might change in the future but thats the funny thing about not knowing about somthing..you just don't know.
AS per this statement:
Woot. I can smell the testosterone from here. I don't need to defend my argument, its obvious to people with any sense.
Whoa... if ever I seen a case of circular reasoning this is it. See your conclusion is contained in a simple assumption and isn't based on a deductive argument. You ASSUME to be true what you are trying to prove. You have stated zero facts in your posts only personal ideals of what Others should do or should do or how intelligent a person is or is not based on what You think to be.
As I said Above I drive with one hand a majority of the time, sometimes when my free hand I change cd's or drink fluids from acan, or eat food. And yet you call me unintelligent/an idiotbecause I can do this and still operate MY car safely. Like the saying goes "Guns don't kill people..people kill people". And for this I think cellphones do not distract drivers, drive themselves lose focus(from a varity of things).
But I doubt will be banning billboards, or 1/4 dressed people in the summer, or fancy cars from the roads... I have seen more peopel distracted from the few things I've mentioned then any cellphone..myself included.
I do not THINK I can drive with one hand safely, I KNOW I can. I've been proving it for the last 5 years.
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/10/2008 2:06:04 PM | It all comes down to:
"The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender, religion, economic status or ethnic background, is that, deep down inside, we ALL believe that we are above average drivers."
The better-than-average effect*
The above average effect or better-than-average effect is one kind of positive illusion. It describes the tendency for people to evaluate themselves as 'better than average' on desirable skills, characteristics or behaviors. It is a characteristic bias of social comparison where people usually compare themselves to an unspecified peer and, despite the mathematical odds, en masse judge themselves to be better than their average peer. For instance, surveying drivers, the Swedish researcher Ola Svenson found that 88% of American college students rated themselves as above 50% on driving skills.[1] Asking college students about their popularity, Zuckerman and Jost (2001) showed that most students judged themselves to be "more popular than average".[2]
In a similar way, a large majority of people claim to be above average; this phenomenon has been observed among drivers, CEOs, stock market analysts, college students, police officers and state education officials, among others. Experiments and surveys have repeatedly shown that most people believe that they possess attributes that are better or more desirable than average. The term is also used to describe a perceived tendency to treat children as "special" in order to boost their self-esteem, even though the children may only be average or even underperforming.
One College Board survey asked 829,000 high school seniors to rate themselves in a number of ways. When asked to rate their own ability to "get along with others", fewer than one percent rated themselves as below average. Furthermore, sixty percent rated themselves in the top ten percent, and a quarter of respondents rated themselves in the top one percent. Some have argued that more subjective traits like this may be more easily distorted.
The effect has been found repeatedly by many other studies for other traits, including fairness, virtuosity, luck, and investing ability, to name a few. It is similar and may be related to in-group bias and wishful thinking. However, it is not a universal tendency: under some circumstances, a worse-than-average effect is seen instead. This refers to a tendency to underestimate oneself in certain conditions, which may include self-handicapping behavior. It can be compared to the false consensus effect. The better-than-average effect may not have wholly social origins: judgements about inanimate objects may suffer similar distortions
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wobegon_effect
(1) Ola Svenson (February 1981). "Are we all less risky and more skillful than our fellow drivers?"
(2) Ezra W. Zuckerman & John T. Jost (2001). "What Makes You Think You're So Popular? Self Evaluation Maintenance and the Subjective Side of the "Friendship Paradox"
(3) E. E. Giladi & Y. Klar (2002). "When standards are wide of the mark: Nonselective superiority and inferiority biases in comparative judgments of objects and concepts" | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/10/2008 3:27:43 PM |
I think that driving is a privilege and that concentration on the road is very important.
I agree that concentration on the road is very important, but what about all the other things that go on in a car that may cause one to lose concentration? Kids, pets, food, beer...ooppps...never mind that's already illegal.  | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/10/2008 7:23:00 PM | Talking on a cell phone is totally different than eating while driving .
Your brain isn't usually that engaged in that burger for instance, like it would be in the conversation. And I am not even talking about your hands being off the wheel.
You don't have to use any concentration skills to woof down a burger. But you do have to concentrate on keeping up with the conversation on the phone.
That is unless it is a nagging partner that you are trying to drown out, and don't want to partake in the conversation. | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/10/2008 7:50:15 PM | | I dont know about that your still driving with one hand as u are woofing down that burger or slice of pizza so it does take abit of skill . I know myself I still talk and drive in my buisness the phone can ring anytime so I have to answer it. Maybe its luck that nothing has happened or maybe there is abit of skill as Ive been doing it now for 17 years I dont know like Maples says (apple and oranges) | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/10/2008 8:14:25 PM | Well see I disagree in my buisness Iam alwas thinking of what I have to do my next say 3 stops so you are occupied. I know its not right to do it as I see in a run of a day that people are not paying attention but I think there is alot of responsible drivers out there also that do pay attention alot.
this is a subject that you can argue all night with pros and cons | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/10/2008 8:34:38 PM | | well talking a on a blue tooth is the same isnt it you are still concentrating on the conversation if u are holding a phone to your ear or talking on a bluetooth we can argue about this all night if u ask me lol that is the pros and cons | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/11/2008 2:23:53 PM |
you maturity levels are showing tenfold
Yep, this topic really brings out the adolescent in people.
well talking a on a blue tooth is the same isnt it you are still concentrating on the conversation if u are holding a phone to your ear
Why not -
Let the phone ring until it takes a message.
Pull over and answer.
Turn the phone off. | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/11/2008 2:36:40 PM | Talking on the cell phone while driving creates two types of distractions:
1) Physical - use of hand/s
2) Mental - use of brain
Both compromise your ability to drive safely.
That said most studies have shown that the mental distraction is the more dangerous of the two.
Anything that you are doing that does not involve diving means you are compromising your safety and the safety of others.
How can we fix it, its easy, just let it happen, Darwin will take care of everyone, and yes there will be some innocent people that will go along with that, but thats just acceptable risk.
Passing more laws is never the right answer.
If you stop protecting the stupid people from themselves at some point you will have a lots less stupid people.
Also if you want safer drivers, remove air bag and replace with steel spike.
As stupid as you might think it is you can not deny that people would take allot more care while driving.
That may be a bit of an exaggeration, but goes to prove my point, that as you make cars safer you create more unsafe drivers.
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/11/2008 3:21:26 PM |
Passing more laws is never the right answer.
If you stop protecting the stupid people from themselves at some point you will have a lots less stupid people.
I might agree with you if the victim in a SUV vs motorcycle accident was the chatting SUV driver. Damn that pavement hurts. | |
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/12/2008 9:56:11 AM | ^^^^ Yours and the man above you maturity levels are showing tenfold. Tsk tsk tsk
Oh, now we're down to insults? I thought I made a valid point about eating in a car because I have experienced it. Eating food while driving is a distraction especially if you spill something. What's the first thing you do? You say "Shit!" and then look at were it may have been spilled on you. Now, this may never have happened to you, but don't assume it doesn't happen to others.
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| Talking on cell phones while driving .... New Legislation
Posted: 11/12/2008 11:06:49 AM |
maple.... Ummmm I do believe you threw the first one...
Really? Where? The part that I said you are the exception to the distraction of eating while driving? I didn't realize that was an insult. You had indicated previously you don't have to use any concentration skills to woof down a burger.  | |
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