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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 1/16/2008 12:02:56 PM | Humans, like the other great apes are omnivores. I think only the Orang-utan is a herbivore.
Would you like to explain how you reached that decision?
Oh I see what you mean now, the fact that generations before us have been eating meat, so we must be. Well maybe they were on the wrong diet as they didn't know any better? After all, all herbivores will be able to process animal protein to some degree or other since all protein is biochemically related.
I know that we do eat meat, but we could very well be making ourselves ill, for doing so, if we are designed to be herbivores. And there is certainly no need to eat meat in this day and age. I realise that only recently in fact, that we have become enlightened on the subject of diet.
If you look at a scientific study as elaborated in MSG5 you will notice that we do not even closely resemble the 20 characteristics and attributes of an omnivore.
Please enlighten me further if you wish, I'm all up for learning. | |
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Anneri
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 1/16/2008 12:11:19 PM |
Would you like to explain how you reached that decision?
I know we do eat meat, but we could very well be making ourselves ill, for doing so.
If you look at a scientific study as elaborated in MSG5 you will notice that we do not even closely resemble the 20 characteristics and attributes of an omnivore.
Please enlighten me, I'm all up for learning.
I didn't reach that decision. I read it. Chimps, Bonbos and Humans eat meat, and I think Gorillas eat bugs. The Orang-Utan is the only great ape not to eat another living animal. It doesn't matter whether the stuff we eat harms us or not, we eat it and our ancestors did. | |
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 1/16/2008 12:18:45 PM | we eat it and our ancestors did
That doesn't mean we are omnivores though, if generations before us have been eating meat and have been on a diet that has caused premature death. We can learn the truth now. We have the scientific data to show us what we really are, we don't have to act like lemmings. (As much as it suits the big boys, keeping them rich and in business, pharmaceutical industry even more so... It's their little secret).
I don't blame our ancestors for eating meat back in the day, how would they know any better? If they were starving, we would even eat each other! Remember, all herbivores will be able to process animal protein to some degree or other since all protein is biochemically related.
I know that we do eat meat, but we could very well be making ourselves ill, for doing so, if we are designed to be herbivores. And there is certainly no need to eat meat in this day and age. I realise that only recently in fact, that we have become enlightened on the subject of diet.
If you look at a scientific study as elaborated in MSG5 you will notice that we do not even closely resemble the 20 characteristics and attributes of an omnivore.
p.s. anneri I'm relieved to hear it!! Sounds like you could have been a very dangerous tiger with those set of knashers!! grrrrr!! | |
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 1/16/2008 12:38:49 PM | Omnivores are classified as animals that have a mixture of sharp cutting teeth as well as flat grinding teeth.
They do not need to cook their meat before they eat it.
They have special enzymes in their stomachs designed to destroy harmful organisms...
If we are supposed to be eating meat, why can't we eat it in it's natural form
The answer is pretty obviously really, you're just looking at it one-sided. Clearly they only developed all those special enzymes because they couldn't hold matches properly without opposable thumbs. That's divergent evolution at work, that is. We developed matches and fag lighters for switching the oven on, but other creatures didn't.
Although, in all fairness we don't actually know that for sure. It's quite possible that many of them did develop matches, but were just unable to use them due to the lack of an oven.
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 5/17/2008 2:18:51 AM | tend to look on it by having flat teeth at back of mouth and sharp teeth at front of mouth meaning a need to cut meat and chew plant matter
Problably eat less meat than I used to
google for stone age diet | |
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 5/17/2008 4:32:45 AM | Interesting thread, though I suspect a certain dragon has too much time on his hands!!
On balance, I'd say we're omnivores with a bias toward vegetation, pretty much the same as the apes we descended from who mostly forage, but will occasionally hunt or opportunistically eat meat. | |
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 5/17/2008 4:44:55 AM | There's a thing called evolution. Over tens of thousands of years the human body has evolved to eat both meat and vegetation.
It's only in the past few decades that a few have decided that they may actually know better than mother nature. Personally, I find that to be a bit arrogant.
If people choose to be vegetarians because they sympaphise with the animals we eat that's their choice and I have no objection to that at all. It's when they try to convince others that there are genuine dietary or health reasons for doing it that I start to lose interest and simply file them under "crank". | |
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 5/17/2008 5:47:25 AM | | I thought omnivores were species that had evolved to eat plants and meat, but could not digest either as efficently as herbivores or canrivores. Don't we have a small and large intestine to digest both, hasn't cod liver oil been proved to help do something good to the brain?, omega 3 oils aren't they good for the heart? doesn't the pancreas do something? | |
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 5/17/2008 10:08:37 AM | Omnivores; We've evolved to be both carnivores & herbivours.
We have forward facing eyes for catching pray.
Canine teeth (at the front) for biting into meat.
Molars (at the back) for chewing fruit & veg.
It's evolution, nothing to to with "ethics" & vegetarianism, before that debate starts.  | |
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 5/19/2008 12:19:52 AM | Sorry but just seen this one, not got much to add apart from we are omnivores and to add
if that study is true (and wasn't commissioned by a meat-eating organisation) then it could not have been protein - because even on a strict vegan diet you can get enough protein without eating meat or any animal by-product. I have personally not looked into any brain studies - but pretty much every vegetarian or vegan I know is very intelligent. A lot of vegans I know have very high IQ
One persons lifetime can't make up for millons of years of evoultion, but they are at high risk of osteoporosis if they aint taking suppliments (And how naturals that?).
Not quite sure where you are getting the facts from but our teeth are incredibly similar to grizzily bears apart from the large canine and we have thumbs so we dont need to use our teeth to catch our food. The other facts are a bit long winded other than to say most animals leave rotten flesh apart from specalized scavengers with the 'enzyme'. Cooked meat is easier to digest than raw but we can still do it to get protein but sometimes it is an energy intensive process in humans so chew raw steak and sushi well :)
Humans have lost a lot of their physical make up since they developed thumbs and the ability to shape the world around them. | |
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 5/19/2008 12:47:01 AM | Omnivores.!
Vegetarians would not be able to survive in the modern world without intensively farmed resources.
As a species, Humans should not eat grains (grass seed) as these are too dispersed in the wild to be classed as a food source.
Many pulses, (pre cultivation) were either toxic or too dispersed.
(Grass seeds and pulses of course would have been eaten but not relied upon as a regular source of protein and carbohydrate)
Hunter gatherer societies cannot survive on a diet of fruits, leaves and roots and have to supplement their diets with animal protein, be it sourced from Reptiles, Mammals, Birds, Insects, Fish or Amphibians (also Muluscs and crustacians etc).
As we are all descended from such peoples, we must by default be Omnivores.
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| Are humans carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores?
Posted: 5/19/2008 12:51:10 AM |
the contents of this thread is not limited to the UK, so would you please try to put it in the health section in the main forum section?
In the local forums posters can discuss topics of a much wider range than in the individual global forums. This thread is therefore in the right place for local discussion.
how can we get this thread moved into the main health and fitness that is not limited to UK????
We don't. However, since redundancy in the local forums is within that forum itself, you can start the same thread in Health and Fitness if you so choose. | |
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