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 markomatic

Joined: 12/20/2007
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Posted: 1/19/2008 9:35:04 PM
I like smarts in all of kinds people: like friends, parents, kids, and women.

My preference is for lasting, loving relationship with a woman who is tremendously smart and also sweet, and reasonably sane. And very compatible and able to deal with mutual ease with the inevitable ratio of incompatibilities of any two complex personalities.

It's a drag to be with anyone who intimidates other people. Whether that's intentional or not. People who have to, for whatever reason, prove that they're smart, or worse, that they're smarter, have a provable stupidity.


I, with a deeper instinct, choose a man who compels my strength, who makes enormous demands on me, who does not doubt my courage or my toughness, who does not believe me naive or innocent, who has the courage to treat me like a woman.

-Anais Nin

Let's flip that around now:


I, with a deeper instinct, choose a woman who compels my strength, who makes enormous demands on me, who does not doubt my courage or my toughness, who does not believe me naive or innocent, who has the courage to treat me like a man.
 crayonzz

Joined: 11/14/2007
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Posted: 1/20/2008 1:43:54 AM
I can explain this. ENDJ

Firstly men are NOT seeking women they can control.
They are seeking women who are not control freaks themselves. They are seeking women who RESPECT men. Who don't treat them like propertey or slaves.

And ENDJ! I'm not kidding. Take a look through a good library, at some of the newspapers of the deep south prior to the US civil war. The plantation owners genuinely thought that their slaves would be helpless, and directionless, without their white masters. A great many wives and girlfriends display EXACTLY the same attitude to thier husbands.


Also ENDJ do you respect smart men? Rattle off / write down the first two dozen famous LIVING men that come into your head. Movies, rock, and sporting stars most of them. How many who are noted for brains?
 Leatheryman

Joined: 9/3/2007
Msg: 78
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Posted: 1/20/2008 3:17:02 AM
Women who have a pretty dim flickering light in there can cause more drama and trouble than anyone with a few smarts about them. I doubt level of education has anything to do with the smarts we are talking about here. I'm sure you yourself OP, could name more than a few educated professionals who are as dumb as the preverbial box of hammers.
 crayonzz

Joined: 11/14/2007
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Posted: 1/20/2008 3:37:19 AM
Just running through historys smart women.

Smart men and women both have a poor marriage record.

Among the women Nancy Gilberth and Marie Curie, and (I think) Dr Sally Ryde were happily married. The single ones include Dr Roasalyn Franklin, Babs McClintoff and Elisabeth Kenny. Kenny couldn't get married becasue she was a nurse, not a doctor.
 Account Deleted

Joined: 1/8/2008
Msg: 80
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Posted: 1/20/2008 7:35:48 AM
I find people who generalize are really not as smart as they would like to think.

OT - IMHO - Most men and Most women prefer someone with whom they can communicate 'easily' - without need to "dummydown" or continuously explain what they mean. **IQ is not a good measure - It only shows that a person has a certain mental capacity - Not that they use it! lol

A.S.is
 acapellafella

Joined: 12/24/2007
Msg: 81
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Posted: 1/20/2008 7:50:54 AM
^^ Hmm, good points , . You must be some kinda smarty or somethin'.




" I find people who generalize are really not as smart as they would like to think. "
Um... "generally speaking...?"





" Do men Like Smart Women?? "

GAWD yes! You've gotta talk about something besides shoes and Brad Pitt, once the lights are back on.....


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 Account Deleted

Joined: 1/8/2008
Msg: 82
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Posted: 1/20/2008 7:59:59 AM
Hey fella! Don't git smurt wit me! lmao


<div class="quote">" I find people who generalize are really not as smart as they would like to think. "
Um... "generally speaking...?"

no - I wasn't generalizing, I was quite specific about those people!

Smarty pants
(all others just breathe heavy!)

What about smart Alien women?

A.S.is


Resistance is Futile! .. click!..


 RedCassandra

Joined: 10/9/2007
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Posted: 1/20/2008 8:19:31 AM
^^^ Hey, fellow alien



You've gotta talk about something besides shoes and Brad Pitt, once the lights are back on.....


I am hoping this was said in jest, and bar is not set as low as to be able to communicate about more than just those two. Because if you add make up and Brittney to the convo it ain't gonna be much better. ( A side note, I bet you that a smart woman can make even a shoe conversation (if kept brief) fascinating subject.)

However, I have seen many profiles where a guy states "I look for moderately smart woman", "someone with some intelegence" [original spelling], "some brains" and so on... I suppose if you set the bar that low you won't easily be disappointed.

As for aliens, we are creatures apart and smart by default. All of us. Not that we would ever stereotype. It's just a fact of life. Coming from a different planet and all that.

 northeast25

Joined: 12/4/2007
Msg: 84
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Posted: 1/20/2008 8:41:25 AM
It seems like there are always these types of questions on POF. Are men imtimidated by tall women, smart women, successful women, assertive women, physically strong women etc? Maybe these men weren't attracted to you or maybe they felt you weren't compatible with them for reasons that had nothing to do with your intelligence. I think some people just like to make excuses for their lack of dating success.
 Account Deleted

Joined: 1/8/2008
Msg: 85
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Posted: 1/20/2008 8:56:21 AM
Hey Red!!


As for aliens, we are creatures apart and smart by default. All of us. Not that we would ever stereotype. It's just a fact of life. Coming from a different planet and all that.


That is Just one of the secrets us Aliens have ... sssssshhhhhhhhh



Resistance IS Futile!

A.S.is


lmao @ "smart by default" .. oh I soooo have to put that on my profile!! lmao
 Byronic Hero

Joined: 12/27/2007
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Posted: 1/20/2008 9:50:19 AM
I was put into one of those programs in school reserved for those who scored well on a progressive matrices test. So... intelligence is possibly the most central element to what I find attractive.

I'd rather be intimidated my entire life with a brilliant mind than tire with an insipid one.
 acapellafella

Joined: 12/24/2007
Msg: 87
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:04:14 AM

" "someone with some intelegence" [original spelling], "some brains" "




"Some brains"... now there's a hard one to fulfill. Maybe they mean it like "some pig" from Charlotte's Web?



" I am hoping this was said in jest "

Mercy, Red, Mercy! Of course it was... (tell 'er , back me up here...) I rarely say anything that isn't.


"Do you believe in computer dating? Only if the computers really love each other." --Groucho 4:17
 SassySky

Joined: 11/9/2007
Msg: 88
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:05:55 AM

If this isn't the most often-posted topic, it's a close second.

I strongly disagree...
What about..
Guys... Why do you do ___________ ( fill in the blank)
Should we show Cleavage.
Should I make first contact.
What are you looking for.
But my all time favorite and we see it at least 2x a week is...
I slept with him on the first date and now he won't call.

OP. now Directly Back on topic, I have found anyone that has to state they are smart or intelligent in emails, forums. or whatever really have issues. I always wonder, who they are trying to convince? The exception to this rule of course is humor.

But if I believe the smartest people are the ones that don't have to say anything about their intelligience. They just show it by their compassion, writings, etc..I am also willing to lay odds, your intelligience is NOT what is turning men off.

Since in my experience they don't want us, dumber than a bag of rocks.
But what do I know, I am a frozen Alaskan
 Account Deleted

Joined: 1/8/2008
Msg: 89
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:24:02 AM
Mercy, Red, Mercy! Of course it was... (tell 'er , back me up here...) I rarely say anything that isn't.


Yeah Yeah, he was ingesting something again! lmao fella!!

Red - I think acapellafella was joking - he probly does like talking about brad pitt And shoes!! And I doubt he turns the lights out either! lol silly fella

I like smurt mens who izn't asceered a mi inteligents 2

You will be assimilated or sumthin

A.S.is
 acapellafella

Joined: 12/24/2007
Msg: 90
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:27:59 AM
...And what about them shoes that Brad was wearin' today???








P.S. Thanks .... Have I been assimilated, yet?
 Urbanessa

Joined: 8/15/2007
Msg: 91
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:34:17 AM

As of this writing this thread has had 442 views. 2% of the GP is capable of joining Mensa. So if the GP has acessed this thread then the odds would say there have been 9 Mensa capable people who have read this thread already. I'd bet it might be higher because the word smart in the title will likely attract more smart people to read it in the first place.

Three things:
(i) If the thread has been read 442 times chances are that it has not been read by 442 different people . Whoever posts on a thread has the tendency to come back and read other posters' statements or add yet another point of view. So the number of actual viewers is very likely much lower than the number of views of a specific thread (and you don't need to be Mensa member to figure that out...).

(ii) Chances are that those Mensa members that read this thread were ... um ... female and not interested in the OP but interested in the thread topic only.

(iii) Having qualified for Mensa means you're having a high IQ. It means you've got a lot of potential (in one or more specific fields). It does not necessarily mean, though, that you're smart nor does it mean that you're well-educated nor does it mean that you're able to live up to your potential. It doesn't mean that you're a total geek either. Nor does it mean that you're into bragging about your brain capacity (even though some people do). It just means you took a specific test and passed.
 Account Deleted

Joined: 1/8/2008
Msg: 92
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:36:02 AM
P.S. Thanks :55: .... Have I been assimilated, yet?

Yes. Now turn the light back on and back away from the heels! lol

Gotta go - Mensa's on the phone!! You do know that mensa is really a secret org. for us alien folk .. right? bwuaaaaaaaahahahahaha :devil: . err I mean :55:


dam icons
 Urbanessa

Joined: 8/15/2007
Msg: 93
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:42:46 AM

You do know that mensa is really a secret org. for us alien folk .. right?

My sentiments exactly.
 josh8881

Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 94
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:53:37 AM
I enjoy a smart woman because it keeps me on my toes. I like to be intellectually stimulated in converstaion and not just talking about shallow things like the newest fashion trends or what Sally said about Cindy at work today. Dont get me wrong there is NOTHING wrong with those types of conversations, although I would be FAR more intrested if a woman could talk about her views on the US Foreign Trade Policy or the current state of the economy
 kenb5b01

Joined: 9/27/2007
Msg: 95
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Posted: 1/20/2008 11:35:53 AM
From reading many posts in many threads on POF I am of the opinion that a fair percentage of male POF'ers prefer less intelligent women. I have no data to extrapolate what the percentages of intelligent vs. less intelligent female POF'ers current is. Since it is likely to fluctuate at random intervals depending on various influences. It stands to reason however that since many less intelligent POF women are becoming more intelligent simply by being on POF that intellectual statistics are continually compounded by the less intelligent becoming enlightened as a result of repeated exposure to less intelligent male POF influences as well as alien intervention and alterations. Or so one might conclude.
 JonInTampa

Joined: 3/2/2007
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Posted: 1/20/2008 12:59:35 PM
Too bad the OP appears gone (or hidden). The turn off may have been her career (law) more than her smarts. I love intelligent women, but I'd likely avoid a woman involved in one of the contentious areas of law that make money on human misery. As her profile is unavailable, we'll never know if she gave any specifics.
 Yellowsoul

Joined: 11/17/2007
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Posted: 1/20/2008 4:49:37 PM
Of course men like smart women. My thought is that you aren't having any luck because you are including sarcastic remarks in your emails. Sarcasm is really quite difficult to read in an email-what I mean by that is sarcasm is usually quite obvious in a face-to-face conversation or in an email from someone you know but it can be hard to tell when someone is being sarcastic on a first meeting and even worse in a first meeting by email.

On the phone number bit, you may want to arrange a face-to-face meeting instead of a phone call. A phone call doesn't really seem much different than an email so what's the point about changing the communication medium. Most guys that I know don't really like talking on the phone anyway so take chance and arrange for a first meeting or suggest a first meeting rather than handing out your number (I think phone numbers are dangerous anyway, nothing like having some psychopath calling you at all hours of the night.)
 kenb5b01

Joined: 9/27/2007
Msg: 98
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Posted: 1/20/2008 5:15:55 PM
Ok I have to ask........... Sue me, but I don't get it..........
My thought is that you aren't having any luck because you are including sarcastic remarks in your emails.
Did somebody get a sarcastic email from the OP? What some people consider sarcasm is left to the recipient. I mean what she considers sarcastic might be a compliment to another person. I disagree whole heartedly. If you give your number to somebody and they don't call, it's just too fricken bad for them. Sorry 'bout their bad luck. Why is that people always ASSUME you are doing something wrong when others aren't attracted to you or your humor? Screw 'em... Somebody else will appreciate you for who you are, even if some jack@ss with the sense of humor of a tomato cant take a joke... Change your undies, but don't change you. That’s my motto and I'm sticking to it.
Keep smiling and laughing ~ OP ~ your chance is coming and somebody out there will appreciate you for who you are.
 CSIAnaheim

Joined: 12/3/2007
Msg: 99
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Posted: 1/20/2008 5:28:54 PM
I should add to this that last night I caught my first episode of "Smash Lab" on TV. I was rather undeniably turned on by the woman in the group who was talking physics with the guys. I think I have found my newest crush...
 waitress4u

Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 100
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Posted: 1/20/2008 6:17:44 PM
Bravo!!! You are one intelligent women!!!!Bravo again!!
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