| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 1/20/2008 10:39:04 AM | I lost 80 pounds doing it, and well when I went back to eating man made junk food and snacking at night from lonliness and etc while off it------- I gained 40 back. YES IT WORKS, all your giving up is starch, for a short time then re introducing them gradually where your body can take it. It advocates lots of veggies grean, yellow, leafy, fresh and natural foods.... Please read the book minus some of the hype and break it down to the bottom line and its a fine diet. Similar to several others-not exact the same-but similar... | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 1/20/2008 11:12:33 AM | I did it several times a few years ago. I think the main problem people have is they don`t get the book and they don`t read what it actually states. You can`t eat all the bacon, cheese and grease that you want. I don`t know why people say this stuff. That`s not what the diet is about. The main thing with this diet is that you will lose weight, but if you cut your carb intake too drastically, and not get enough, you will get really weak, you won`t be able to think straight and you will become irritable. I forget how many grams it is. But I totally cut them out and almost passed out. Then your body has a tendency of wanting to freak out and binge. Which is what I would do on Atkins. But as soon as I would go off it, the weight would come right back on, as soon as I would stop being so strict. My best system has been to cut out processed foods, gluten free, watch your dairy and sugar intake, fat levels, lots of fresh veggies, fruits, lean protein, you will get the weight offand feel great. That ketosin (sp?) thatthey talk about getting your system into is hard on the body. I just feel crappy when on this diet and can`t stay on it for more that 2 weeks, then I hit a wall, freak and binge-not good. May want Read "Eating for your blood type" That is what I kind of do and it is working great! I feel great, not super skinny but at a healthy maintainable weight and feel really good. | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 1/22/2008 2:52:57 AM | | IF you read the book instead of just listening to others you can loose the weight and keep it off my mother went on the diet over 10 years ago an shes still a size zero pant .. so she didnt gain the weight back . | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 1/22/2008 11:22:17 AM | | Youre right I get a kick, (actually mad) when I read reviews around places from those who sound like they didnt read the book either.... | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 1/30/2008 2:20:49 PM | | Atkins isn't for everyone, I tried it and had good short term results. I needed something to kick start my weight loss. I had plateaued for a while. Mostly I'm at the gym 5 times a week but it wasn't enough. Can't say I'm a big eater, mostly that I ate the wrong time or infrequently. I found Atkins was forcing me to at least eat 3 times a day which I never did, so that was good. But I'm half German, give me a break! I need bread and potatoes!! Anyway, I have adjusted my eating and watch out for carb consumption just won't give them up completely. Don't know if I'll diet again rather just watch calories and carbs. I do agree read Atkins book, he doesn't even go into the dieting, induction phase until about 7 chapters. | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 1/30/2008 3:59:53 PM | I know a older woman who tried it and it worked to loose the weight she wanted to, but the side effects were very damaging, chest pains and hard to breathe at times
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 1/30/2008 4:01:16 PM |
People at work told me it will cause you to have heart, breathing problems, have you heard of this or experienced.
That's crap. In the 4 years I've been following Adkins (I dropped 130 pounds in the first year and a half, then have been doing maintaince) my heart rate is way down, my blood pressure is down, my cholesterol is down, my asthma disappeared and in general I'm in the best health I've ever been in my whole life.
Took about 2 weeks to really have it kick in, after that I saw an average of about 2 pounds a week weightloss. I was doing light workouts (walking a mile or so a day and maybe 20 mins of weight training 3-4 times a week) and pretty much stayed on "induction" until the weight was gone.
I did cheat here and there when I hit mile stones, but mostly you just stay on it and keep doing it day in and day out and it works. | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 1/30/2008 4:03:29 PM |
I know a older woman who tried it and it worked to loose the weight she wanted to, but the side effects were very damaging, chest pains and hard to breathe at times
Every time I talk to someone that says this is what happened to them, it always turns out they didn't do Atkins, they just cut all the carbs out of their diet. That's no Atkins, and it's not good... | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 1/30/2008 7:15:31 PM | I'd agree with post number 2. Its more like a modified diet from epileptics; to control seizures and make peoples bodies go into ketosis. Personally, if I were to use an eating plan it would be along the lines of Pam smiths materials. And thats not "dieting". It's eating right. Fad diets, etc...you lose it but then gain back more. For me, I cut out white sugar for the most part and dropped white, processed flour and am better for it, I think. But that was for me, my choice (on doctors suggestion) and might or might not help others with the same indicators I had. | |
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| Anyone else on Atkins diet? Posted: 2/1/2008 9:15:08 PM | Atkins works but most people only do the Induction phase - they fail to move on to the remaining phases properly, fall off the wagon, and gain the weight back. I was successful and lost 30 pounds in 3 months, but found it to be too restrictive when eating with others and it was brutal on my wallet. I
I've since switched to a more balanced way of eating that includes all foods in moderation. I count calories, weigh and measure everything that I eat or drink. Eating that is way, I lose about 8 pounds a month and I can eat anything as long as its in moderation. I'm forced to plan my meals, which I think is good. So if I'm going for pizza with friends some evening, I know that lunch has to be a salad. On Atkins - No pizza allowed. | |
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| Anyone else on Atkins diet? Posted: 2/2/2008 1:13:09 AM | A little common sense goes a long way. I eat very very few carbs. But I can eat all the pizza I want as a result with no adverse effect. Atkins is just one way of looking at it; there's all sorts of diets that revlve around the same principle, and by diet I don't mean "thing yuo try to lose weight then go back to SAD" (Standard American Diet) but rather "this is how you eat from now on".
The strict diet for epileptics is only for some epileptics. Very few actually.It's a complex situation haveing to do with minerals that carbs block the absorbtion of. Wheat is (by far) the worst.
The current and widespread awareness that carbs aint good for you should be some indication it's not a fad. They've never been good for you, they're just cheap and it's only by lobbying, not by any measure of science, that they're in that stupid "food triangle". | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 2/2/2008 4:38:14 AM |
People at work told me it will cause you to have heart, breathing problems, have you heard of this or experienced. About how long does it take to see results? Been on for 3 days and working out at gym daily. Yea it works. And if you dont mind burning muscle, have at it. | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 2/2/2008 7:49:46 AM | | Not a healthy diet, your risk of colon cancer increases greatly. If you want to lose weight eat more vegetables and fruits, grains and meat in moderation. Eat more often but eat smaller qualities. Your body needs carbs otherwise you will be low on energy. | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 2/2/2008 12:04:41 PM | everybody I know who did Atkins gained weight when they stopped or found it was a difficult waste of time And could show you an equal number of people who also gained weight back when they stopped doing low fat/high fiber diets or weight watchers or jenny craig or whatever other diet you want to name. The bottom line is when you deviate from any method or eathing that you used to lose weight and go back to your old habits you will gain weight back. It has to be a 100% commited lifestyle change in the end. I am living proof of that.
Atkins did not fail me, I failed me.
I lost 70 pounds and maintained that for a full 2 years by following his philosophies. I fell into emotionally hard times and went back to my old friend and crutch called sugar for comfort. I gained it all back.
The Atkins diet is not about zero carbs. Forget the propaganda you hear on the streets, most of it was written either for ratings or by PETA to get attention. Not a single phase of the Atkins diets (the current version since the 90s) has a ZERO carb rule. The induction phase which is the strictest to all of them states 20 carbs and also requires you eat 3 cups of vegetables per day. I'm not sure about you guys... but the last time I checked vegetables were not considered unhealthy. :) The diet is also not about eating all the fat you can, despite what the papers all said it was not about eating bacon or sausage... in fact Atkins himself discouraged it and said you should limit that to just 1 portion per week. I ate healthier on Atkins than I ever did in my life. I ate more fiber and more vegetables than I can ever remember. I never felt healthier.
I agree with the Atkins philosophies (and not what his family turned his name into after he passed away). Eat whole foods, real foods, and avoid sugars. Fast food and most of the premade foods you get at the grocery store are filled with sugars and fillers that do nothing nutritionally for you and only leave your body confused and still feeling hungry. I learned a lot about nutrition and how to read labels in the process of losing my weight and was shocked to find out how much junk we were really eating. | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 2/2/2008 4:49:56 PM | Just one last afterthought (too late to edit the other post).
I had many many days where I went vegetarian on Atkins and didn't even mean to. I known of several vegatarians on it as well. It really is not that hard to do low carb and still get in your proteins for the day with other foods. So don't let the media and PETA lead you to believe that it is all about eating fatty meats. :)
A very common problem for those that choose to eat this way is remembering to eat enough because we don't get hungry. When I was on track I found myself actually having to make myself eat extra foods at night. You get full on less calories when you're not filling your body up with junk and it is very easy to accidently send your body into starvation mode and cause a stall in your weight loss.
My sweet spot for losing is 1600-1800 calories and 40 carbs per day. If I ate less I found the loss slowed down. | |
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| Anyone else on Atkins diet? Posted: 2/2/2008 7:20:00 PM |
Yea it works. And if you dont mind burning muscle, have at it.
There are lots of metaboli pathways to burn muscle. It's just not that simple or cut and dried as you imply.
Not a healthy diet, your risk of colon cancer increases greatly. If you want to lose weight eat more vegetables and fruits, grains and meat in moderation. Eat more often but eat smaller qualities. Your body needs carbs otherwise you will be low on energy.
Lose weight by eating fruit? You mean the fruit dianbetics have to be careful with because of all the sugar? "vegetables" is a bit broad - leafy vegetables, yes. Root vegetables? Pure starch, no.
Tell you what, eat no protein for a week then see how much energy you have. Eat all the carbs you want.
Then eat protein for a week and no carbs and see how much energy you have.
"meat" again is over broad. Fatty beef? In moderation. Fish? You could live off the stuff 3x a day, every day.
You could eliminate grains from your diet alltogether and feel much much better. There's very little good about them; their blocking of the proper digestion of animal tissue and fat is what causes colon cancer, not the meat. | |
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| Anyone else on Atkins diet? Posted: 2/2/2008 7:31:41 PM | rsx11s, how can you argue with someone that doesn't even realize they just described Atkins?
It just goes to show how little people know about the things they rant about. If you're going to discuss something then bring some real information to the table via legitimate research.
He said "If you want to lose weight eat more vegetables and fruits, grains and meat in moderation. Eat more often but eat smaller qualities." And that is exactly what Dr. Atkins said... eat 3 cups of veggies a day minimum. Eat low sugar fruits. Eat whole grains that are high in fiber. Eat meat that is lower in fat and in moderation, this diet is not (nor ever was) permision to binge on a pound of bacon. Eat 5-6 meals per day. By eating healthy you already naturally reduce the appetite and eat smaller portions. | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 2/2/2008 8:03:06 PM | | atkins methedology is basically eat more protein and less carbs,carbs and fruit juices promote fat storage through insulin release and protein has the reverse effect helping to mobalise and burn fat,so it depends what you want to do,if your trying to lose weight,don't eat a lot of sugar,especially simple sugars,make them complex carbs(potatoes ,spagetti) so you don't tax your pancreas so much,,and if you eat a salad make sure it has protein in it,like chicken.Atkins is somewhat right,for a bodybuilder wanting to gain muscle,(otherwise it stores as fat)high(er) protein diet.,did you catch that?higher not high protein. you need some carbs to facilitate the transport of protein to get to where it needs to go,roughly a weight gain mealwould be about 55/45 protein to carbs on the plate.the atkins diet is a bit if a misnomer to me,making it sound like all you eat is protein,when in reality you just increase protein marginally.You don't need atkins for anything,thats like trying to read about a sunset when you can go outside and just live it for yourself.the word diet is a misnomer to me as well,,just eat right and tweek it one way or the other and you'll get results. | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 2/2/2008 9:46:42 PM |
the atkins diet is a bit if a misnomer to me,making it sound like all you eat is protein I'm just curious how you can say it makes it sound that way? You clearly haven't actually read the book or anything the doctor said. You're making it sound like he said those things when in fact he did not. | |
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| Anyone else on Atkins diet? Posted: 2/2/2008 10:15:08 PM | Cause Atkins is wrong? "fruit in season" is more contemperaneous than "more fruit".
Few things are set in stone. This of course is subject to change. | |
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| Anyone else on Atkins diet? Posted: 2/3/2008 12:44:45 AM | Few things are set in stone.
I seem to recall a famous sword in history that nobody could pull out.....
msg 9 fascinates me and I wish I knew what my blood type was because that seems a refinement or a twist on an old diet I read about but I don't understand what is bad with potatoes?
The old diet I seem to recall reading about where people were geographically traced back to what they would eat. A lot of my ancestory goes back to fish -- sweden and norway. Wish I could tolerate it, aside from loving shrimp and the occasional scallops I have never been big on fish. But the idea makes sense, I just never realized it went this far past processed foods.
Same idea, but a lot more extreme than I ever imagined. I have always thought technology outpaces human development of wisdom and this is just another bit of proof. | |
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| Anyone else on Atkins diet? Posted: 2/3/2008 1:56:15 PM | Anybody that thinks one dietary scheme has all the answers doesn't understand life on this planet! There are problems with all of them. But, as with anything else trugh arives though a series of successive approximations.
Atkins was ridiculed as an utter nutjob in the day. But over the past 10 years there's consensus that he was on the right track - not perfect, but heading in the right direction. He methods have a lot in common with the "paleo" diet whose central thesis is "eat like we ate before grains and dairy were added to out diet 5-10000 years ago, cause that's when mankinds healt really started to go downhill". Fine in theory but the problem with that is meat today isn't the same as meat 10000 years ago. It's 6 times fattier and 20X higher in saturated fats - ironically because we feed grain to our feed animals.
The "blood type" diet sounded kind of whacko to me and I ignored it for years. But I gave it a chnace and read up on it and tried it, and I have to say it did seem to do more good than harm. The theory is as man evolved along the way, new blood types emeged representing different epochs in evolution, commensurate with these developents are differeing abilities to digest various foods. For example type O is the oldest blood type and have to eat some meat and fish weekly. Type AB is the mose recent one and can survive without them. This goes a long way I think, to explain why some people do well on a plant diet while others do very poorly.
The diet even goes so far as to identify which foods are good, bad or indifferent to various bloodtypes. In many cases poeple who look at it notice that the foods they like are the ones they are allowed to have and the foods the don't like are ones they never cared for anyay. It's far from 100% but it happens enough to make you raise your eyebrows; some nutritionists do contend "your body knows what's good for you".
Now, some of it hasn't gained widespread acceptance. The stuff about "lectins" especially. But, overall it's probably worth trying.
The most intresting thing I think is they state flat out nobody should eat wheat. This corresponds to other researhers observations as well, but keep in mind the wheat lobby is amazingly huge, similarly so corn, but that's an even longer story and for another day.
The author of this diet has been hailed as a whackjob, just as Atkins was 30 years ago. So it goes...
The reference is here: http://www.dadamo.com/
Diet chart is here: http://www.drlam.com/blood_type_diet/
Anecdotal evidence: my ex had fibromyalgia, for which there is no cure. After seeing a local naturopath and taking a few suppliments and doing on this diet, she's cured. Maybe there's something do it despite all the silliness the author espouses. In other words I'm not ready to throw out the baby with the bathwater quite yet. | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 2/24/2008 1:46:51 AM | WHOA.....
There sure is a lot of SH** flying around this thread. I am always amazed at people speaking with authority as if they know what they are talking about. Clearly MOST of these posters have no idea, they are going form rumor and hearsay. Read the Atkin's books, and take a look at what the AMA is NOW starting to imply about the benefits of low carb. Ask yourself why the food pyramid had to be made over, which is still unhealthy. The AMA is so motivated by the pharmaceutical companies that you will be lucky to strain out the truth. Pharmaceutical companies want to keep all health issues chronic. I would love to hear from the few posters that can tell real stories of actually getting healing. I have worked in the medical field for 33 yrs, you would be amazed at how truth is only whispered behind closed doors. I had to get out because I couldn't stand behind it anymore. All American's should understand how we bear the costs of pharmaceuticals for the rest of the world plus about 600% above that. We live in a world of lies, but the truth is easy enough to find if you look for it and not for more stuff to support your own preconceived notions.
I am quite sure that these people who are telling you Atkin's will damage you, also believe Dr. Atkin's died from a heart attack. | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 2/24/2008 12:28:19 PM |
I am quite sure that these people who are telling you Atkin's will damage you, also believe Dr. Atkin's died from a heart attack.
Bingo.
I have had countless numbers of people tell me they know of someone who had a heart attack because of being on Atkins. I usually ask for their name, because I would like to talk to them. Surprise, surprise, it is always a friend of a friend's second cousin's inlaw and NOT someone they know. As for causing breathing difficulties, heart problems and all the rest of these health related issues being overweight causes these as well. I just know from experience, I do NOT feel my best physically or mentally when I ingest a lot of simple carbs. As for eliminating carbs completely from ones diet, how is this even possible ??? | |
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| Anyone else on adkins diet? Posted: 2/24/2008 3:38:23 PM |
I just know from experience, I do NOT feel my best physically or mentally when I ingest a lot of simple carbs. I feel the same way. I get so sleepy when I consume carbs in mass quantities.
As for eliminating carbs completely from ones diet, how is this even possible ??? Simple, by not following the real method of doing low carb and doing what the media says it is instead. Eating nothing but meat. Talk about not healthy. :) | |
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