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 dennyden

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Posted: 1/28/2008 8:26:33 AM
Having been on the back side of a badge, I take searious issue with your views that ". . . cops . . . are the criminals", and (paraphrased) that Police Officers view themselves above the law, and will not turn in another cop.



this is just a diversion , so we dont blame the people that are really to blame for making there neighborhood a hell hole, they ask a lot of people that make less then 50,000 dollars a year,to partol them crappy places , well all i can say is thank god somebody is still willing to do it
 Random Entry

Joined: 12/30/2006
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Posted: 1/29/2008 4:42:24 AM

In the US, the FBI is REQUIRED to investigate any, and all, allegations of misconduct on the part of public officials, including police officers.




On paper maybe you're right but the real world does NOT work this way.

I had a female cop perjure herself against me to get a PETTY MISDEMEANOR traffic ticket conviction on me.

I could prove what I did was legal, took extensive pictures of the site and brought them into traffic court with me. There was no "Do not turn sign" which is what I was falsely ticked with.

Also her testimony was impossible because while at the light I told my passenger "There is a cop two cars behind us" and then I safely entered into a gas station. She couldn't follow because a car blocked her.

UNTIL the light changed and the other car moved.

But her testimony said she was right behind me -- then how come she didn't follow me and ticket me in the gas station? Answer -- she couldn't because this car had blocked her.
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I dressed up in my best sunday suit and visited my City's FBI HQ to tell my story. I got wanded, went through several frame detectors and finally saw a secretary woman behind very thick bulletproof glass. I waited another half an hour. For all my time and effort to try to make america a better place what did I get?

The fellow looked over my papers for a minute in the lobby and wouldn't even hear my side of the story. I didn't even get the civility to sit down and discuss it for 15 minutes. To be heard out. American justice is a pure outright fraud, especially when it comes to officials and cops.

I really wish I could say otherwise but that IS the way it is. Cops are OK to commit felonies to get us civilians at misdemeanor level offenses.

Plus there was a camera at that intersection if some one would only have reviewed it in a timely fashion it would have corroborated my story 100% -- It would have shown her car two behind mine, not one as she perjurously testified. Really it was a catastrophe the city made an illegal, improper insection while doing roadwork and it caused many many accidents and lots of trouble for everyone. No one wanted to face the truth of that -- poor planning all the way up to the higher levels.

I moved out of that corrupt area.

I know this is going to sound bitter and maybe it damn well is but now when I hear on the news a cop has been shot or killed I cheer because I know that individual has probably misused his power at one time or another against an unarmed law obeying civilian and therefor deserves it. I know they got what is coming to them by God.
 *Carpe_diem*

Joined: 3/29/2007
Msg: 28
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Posted: 1/29/2008 5:54:58 AM

You talk to any teenager and they'll tell you you that its a given ,there gonna have at some point some down time
I'm glad to know that my teenage sons are NOT just any teen and know that they will have to face me when and if they do something that idiotic. While you may have some plausible facts to back up your argument, they are severely misplaced to your 'benefit'.

Back to topic, sort of.. people living in those types of neighborhoods are far from blind. They know full good and well what is happening. They refuse to speak up for many reasons, namely that the bad elements do not play by the same rules as an upstanding citizen and they know that. They are in fear for their lives and the lives of those they love. They also know that others are just as afraid as they are. Until the entire community takes a solid, unified stance of zero tolerance against such negative activities, they will continue to live in fear and remain quiet. Self preservation is a strong motivator.
 Lostcauz

Joined: 11/22/2007
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Posted: 1/29/2008 6:04:23 AM
As I said in the post quoted. Every department has an Internal Affairs department, or officer. Maybe, just maybe, if you had taken your complaint to the department where this particluar officer worked, as opposed to the FBI, you would have been treated differently. Unfortunately, there are incidents on both sides of this issue, that each can cite to support their positions. Whoever it was that saw you in the lobby of the local FBI office has a supervisor, and you could have asked to speak with that person. Having stood accused of, and investigated, misconduct, my experience is that the allegations are taken seriously, and investigated thoroughly.

Moving out of a corrupt area is one way of getting away from the problem. But, it just leaves the same problem for someone else to address.

As I have said before, if you don't like the way the Police behave, go apply. Police agencies hold open testing nearly year round. The screen process to become a Police Officer isn't easy; but, neither is the job. Policing not up to your standards? Go apply, they take applications from all comers.

Your cheering because some officer has been shot, or killed, shows a serious lack of humanity. Being a Police Officer is someone's job, not who they are. Very unlike most professions; once you become a Police Officer, you never stop being a Police Officer, you are NEVER again seen by people as a person. You are a Police Officer, and are held to a higher standard, in every aspect of your life; which you live under the microscope of public scrutiny, and are judged in the court of public opinion.

Go right ahead, and cheer whenever you hear of a Police Officer being shot or killed. Whenever the time comes that you're in need of help, look in a mirror.
 spinner530

Joined: 6/18/2006
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Posted: 1/29/2008 6:04:28 AM
we have this happening in boston, to the point where the mayor tried to prohibit the sales of such t shirts and hats that said stop snitchin.'

while I disagree with the mayor trying to stop free speech, I do say this - as a guy who grew up in Boston - if the residents of those neighborhoods decide to go along with this philosophy, nothing, absolutely nothing will change respective of gang violence and other crime in the area. To not cooperate with the police after a 13 year old is gunned down in broad daylight isn't a reaction of fear, its a tacit acceptance and approval of the sad state of affairs that surround them. The residents of these neighborhoods then have absolutely no right to blame the police when it is in fact the residents themselves that brought this on.

In short, yes, they deserve it.
 dancecard

Joined: 3/19/2006
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Posted: 1/29/2008 6:32:15 AM

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You sound like me ~ It's clear your quite upset

and it is stories such as yours, where police loss credibility

I'm the worlds worst at refusing to pay unjust ticket and just

ignore them ~ but I've only got away with that twice in 40 years

I go to jail or shovel horse s`it at the police barn or pay a much higher ticket

for ignoning their ass ~ all of which just annoys me the more.

You can't win ~ the system is in place to milk you dry ` and thats~ what much

of this thread is about. ~"Loss of creditability of the system~ and the real fear of retaliation." ~ It's a balance that is starting to sway to one side.

Theses damn small traffic citations cost you from 150.00 to 300.00 each

Thats a whole lot of money to some of us ~ I'd a soon fight a Grizzly Bear as throw away $150.00 ~ I'd find me something to give his ass a good thrashing with. Thats a lot of money ~ representing a lot of hard work ~~ but to the courts ~ They seem to think its a wrist slapping. ~ The system ,often at not ~ makes criminals ~ heavy handed indifference ~ from the ivoy tower ~ the dispensor of ` hmm ~ "justice"

~ I find that here all across my state of Texas ~ and ~~~~ you? ~~dar
 TEXASBANDIT

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Posted: 1/29/2008 6:48:30 AM
Monica Lewinsky snitch on Bill Clinton, so it must be a good thing to snitch, all of America stood behind her and the stained dress.~~~~~~~~~~~This leads me to think that snitching is a GOOD thing.
 dancecard

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Posted: 1/29/2008 9:34:40 AM
It wasn't Monica~ it was her ~ XXXXX friend
and it wasn't a good thing

There was no overriding value to matters of state
for all the distraction it provided.

It was in this period that Osama B. was hatching his evil plan
it was the backdrop, the focus and the interest of the day.

This was what was selling soap, cars ` insurance ~ the vultures were flying about

and thick in the air.

At this same time ~ While beating the Thunder drum for the GOP,

posing for the Poster Boy for the Conservtive Christian Right

Newitty G. was caring on an affair with a married women and

did in deed ~ later dump the old lady. ~
(which was fine with me ~ I really didn't care)

But Bill and Hillary are still together making news ~ today as we speak ~

Where's Newtty? ~ where's Kenneth Starr? ~ where all that money The GOP spent trying to save the American People from disgrace? ~ Now that was a thrifty idea!! ~ who's idea was that anyway? ~ the American People? ~ Run away government ~ just like the last 8 years ~ the GOP's vision for the people of America

old Newitty ~ was looking for a nod from the GOP early on the election year

can you imagine ?? ! ~ His Hypocrisy has no limits!

The snitch ~in this debacle ~ and there were many ~ but the granddaddy of them all

was Hustler Magazine's founder, owner and editor ~ and he only threatened to snitch to get the dogs off Bill. ~ and they left like ticks on a dog thats heart beat for the last time.

Ofcoarse, ` you are entitled to your opinion ~ dar
 bigshrek

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Posted: 1/29/2008 2:04:09 PM
Obviously you've not travelled to the former USSR or China...and most definitely not to South Africa...Yes, we do incarcerate more people than any other country...in other countries THEY JUST SHOOT THE CRIMINALS! Y'know how China got rid of the majority of drug dealers?? THEY TOOK THEM OUT INTO THE STREETS AND SHOT THEM, THEN LEFT THE BODIES TO LIE IN THE GUTTER!! Very effective, that...bet you can't find crackhouses easily in China. And don't even get me started on the Russian police...geez.

Wouldn't need snitches if the cops just shot the crooks when they were chasing them...heck, we coulda saved millions on OJ's trial alone. If you run, you're toast...and that's how it used to be before those **stards at the ACLU got involved.
 jed456

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Posted: 1/29/2008 2:11:14 PM
Good plan shoot an 8 yr old who stole a piece of candy.
 TEXASBANDIT

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Posted: 1/29/2008 3:19:22 PM

It wasn't Monica~ it was her ~ XXXXX friend
and it wasn't a good thing

There was no overriding value to matters of state
for all the distraction it provided.

It was in this period that Osama B. was hatching his evil plan
it was the backdrop, the focus and the interest of the day.

This was what was selling soap, cars ` insurance ~ the vultures were flying about

and thick in the air.

At this same time ~ While beating the Thunder drum for the GOP,

posing for the Poster Boy for the Conservtive Christian Right

Newitty G. was caring on an affair with a married women and

did in deed ~ later dump the old lady. ~
(which was fine with me ~ I really didn't care)

But Bill and Hillary are still together making news ~ today as we speak ~

Where's Newtty? ~ where's Kenneth Starr? ~ where all that money The GOP spent trying to save the American People from disgrace? ~ Now that was a thrifty idea!! ~ who's idea was that anyway? ~ the American People? ~ Run away government ~ just like the last 8 years ~ the GOP's vision for the people of America

old Newitty ~ was looking for a nod from the GOP early on the election year

can you imagine ?? ! ~ His Hypocrisy has no limits!

The snitch ~in this debacle ~ and there were many ~ but the granddaddy of them all

was Hustler Magazine's founder, owner and editor ~ and he only threatened to snitch to get the dogs off Bill. ~ and they left like ticks on a dog thats heart beat for the last time.

Ofcoarse, ` you are entitled to your opinion ~ dar
No actually I like yours better,more information than I thought I'd ever acquire from this issue, thanks~~~~ so I think it's fair to say you can't keep a good man or woman down...........Back to the topic, although it's fair to say no one condones Bill Clinton's actions,snitching isn't good if it resemble setting someone up for failure or being the greater evil of the two.........but if it protects the community, I'm all for it.
 slow_hand_001

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Posted: 1/29/2008 7:51:14 PM
Why is it that everything bad is blamed on media and in most cases black celebrities. OP is a tad ignorant. Snoop Dogg and Ice cube have not been proponents of the stop snitching campaign. The Game is a gang banger which is not meant to excuse his behavior.

American Media could care less what the public thinks because regardless the general public wastes a lot of time focusing on irrelevant crap.

Foreign governments progress much faster than the US which is has financially driven mindset. Every day you will see something about raps negative influence and the effort to curb its impact. Spain and other European companies have banned anorexic models. Do you see the US following any time soon ?

When some kid gets killed in the ghetto in retaliation there is a media outcry. The same media that would not set foot in the ghetto unless it is to report something bad. The same media that probably ignored the crime that preceded the retaliation because it was not good TV.

We would like to censor "stop snitching" but we want to own AK 47's.

What is it that drives kids in the suburbs to kill an entire class. Should we now ban violent movies ?

Now, I do not condone "stop snitching". I just believe that if the cops were all that concerened with crime, they would do more to prevent it. Violent areas need to be brought up. Society has long decided to herd certain communities into one place like animals and as long as they keep that crap in their "hood", its all good. As soon as something happens......blame the media.
 TEXASBANDIT

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Posted: 1/29/2008 10:30:39 PM
...in other countries THEY JUST SHOOT THE CRIMINALS! Y'know how China got rid of the majority of drug dealers?? THEY TOOK THEM OUT INTO THE STREETS AND SHOT THEM, THEN LEFT THE BODIES TO LIE IN THE GUTTER!! Very effective, that...bet you can't find crackhouses easily in China. And don't even get me started on the Russian police...geez.
USSR or China does not allow drugs to inter there country on any level, But honestly I like that idea, but what do we do about the politician and our Government who allows drugs into this country, who first thought off the idea to neutralize a certain group off people. which is the lesser evil or the greater?.......no doubt two wrongs don't make it right.......but the truth is, crack is not looked at as a problem in this country by our Government, if it was, it would be stopped, truth is, it serves a purpose. If our government spent 1/10 of the money that's spent on the war in Iraq every month, the war against drugs would be won in this country, but instead all you see is the cops raiding drug houses, but who raids the ships or the airplanes that bring it into this country,no one, it's almost like there under some kind of peace treaty...........but never the less any drug dealer wether he's a street pharmacist or a king pin from another country deserves to be locked up, wether he's got political connection or not........Did I just snitch?......ooopps
 4x4+geek

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Posted: 1/29/2008 11:49:46 PM
^^^^slow_hand_001
The police can't really do much to prevent crime. They can only react to it once it has occurred. The real anti-crime influence come from the community and the families from which it is comprised. Citizens must conduct themselves, and raise their children, with respect for self and others; and provide themselves with knowledge and skills required to live in a civilized manner. To choose otherwise is to choose to live outside of our civil society - thus be an enemy of it. We are our brothers' keeper.
 slow_hand_001

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Posted: 1/30/2008 12:51:12 AM

The police can't really do much to prevent crime. They can only react to it once it has occurred.


I guess then all the racial profiling of Middle Eastern Men traveling is just a way to pass time. All the resources put to spying on personal e-mail and illegally tapping law abiding citizens phones is done for shits n giggles.

C'mon ^^^^, you cant really be serious with that statement. Police can not prevent all crime. Thats simply a fact but a lot can be done to minimize it.

People in the ghetto are also sick of crime. What options are we giving the youth. Who are their role models....celebrities, athletes and drug dealers.

Lets take Omaha for example. The govt distributes funds annually amongst the school districts equally. BUT, you have some school districts with 2 schools and everyone is getting the same amount. You end up with a scenario where one school district out in the burbs gets 5 million to split between 2 schools and then you get another school district with 15 schools to also split their 5 million. WTF. One school actually handed out MAC laptops to each student while a school in North Omaha has 5 decrepit 10 year old PC's that have a hamster on a wheel as a modem. Think on that.
 fly_higher

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Posted: 1/30/2008 12:58:32 AM
So, in other words....turn a blind eye...alow the criminals to run roughshod over society...as long as they don't bother you. Hmm...interesting take...

Yes. Turn a blind eye.

I live in England. I have no criminal record; I don't even have an endorsement on my driving licence. I was stopped 76 times on the road, no reason. I reported a fire at a school once. After the police forcely changed my statement, which tried to say I did it. ( they caught the young offenders 3 months later.) I have been burgled 5 times. I was involved in a hit and run which I reported. No joy / no result

When I stopped 2 young delinquents someone driving on a road then off onto a public footpath with a motor bike with no insurance tax number plate helmet, who nearly killed my daughter, I was the one who was threatened with arrest for temporary removing the guys motor cycle keys ( I reported on a 999 call that I was taking the keys to the police station( Def: Temporary removal is not theft) )

Last month I was arrested put on bail for one month for rightly pursing an invoice, alleged harassment, (through my business outstanding for 2 years ) They finally said their was no case to answer for. So under the Coronation oath and Deceleration of Bill & Rights 1688/89 it seems I am not allowed to go about my lawful business anymore.

Yes, sure, keep you mouth shut, it’s too dangerous to see anything, do anything, or say anything.
 yna6

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Posted: 1/30/2008 2:33:05 PM
slow hand...this OP got those names right from the article that inspired this thread. Therefore, please don't be saying these "entertainers" are not ptoponents of the "stop snitching" campaign, when they have proven themselves to already be! Jeeze...

Tad ignorant indeed....try taking a look at this problem and who supports the "don't snitch" attitudes!

The whole idea of this thread was to see what people though about this whole "stop snitching" BS that a lot of memebers of the black community seem to support, and why should anyone even spread this crap about on a national soapbox?

Especially someone like Snoop...biggest mouth there is, and still gets the wrong message out!
 bigshrek

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Posted: 1/30/2008 2:41:26 PM
Jed- Nice Red Herring, please, if you are going to make foolish statements, at least try to couch them in some sort of logic.

Until 1978 in most US states there were laws that basically stated "Any officer of the law in prusuit of a Felon or person who has commtted a felonious action may fire upon that individual to ensure the safety of the population." It was a good law, but it was also horribly mis-applied...especially in the Southern US where...the "shoot first if they're colored and ask how much they stole later" rule was in play.

Now...we have most police officers in large cities are required to have at least a two-year college degree and many require a 4-yr degree, so theoreticaly these are not stupid individuals and should be able to make shooting solutions that will be tactically acceptable in removing criminals from society in a PERMANENT manner.

Bear in mind it's what many other countries are doing...but they don't require college degrees...they just require that the officer shoot straight. Try chatting with Russian police sometime...you'll be amazed at how easy criminals have it in the US.
 TEXASBANDIT

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Posted: 1/30/2008 9:42:28 PM
Now...we have most police officers in large cities are required to have at least a two-year college degree and many require a 4-yr degree, so theoreticaly these are not stupid individuals and should be able to make shooting solutions that will be tactically acceptable in removing criminals from society in a PERMANENT manner.
And this action has made it harder for most REDNECKS to get a badge while white collar crime and fraud continues to go unchecked and is still on the rise, I always said the worst kind of thief is the one who doesn't try to hide his face, but instead has a devilish smirk and wears it with pride, thinking he's above the law, but never the less sooner or later because of his greed laziness and superiority complex he'll get checked just like any other common thief.
 TEXASBANDIT

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Posted: 1/30/2008 10:17:47 PM
slow hand...this OP got those names right from the article that inspired this thread. Therefore, please don't be saying these "entertainers" are not ptoponents of the "stop snitching" campaign, when they have proven themselves to already be! Jeeze...

Tad ignorant indeed....try taking a look at this problem and who supports the "don't snitch" attitudes!

The whole idea of this thread was to see what people though about this whole "stop snitching" BS that a lot of memebers of the black community seem to support, and why should anyone even spread this crap about on a national soapbox?

Especially someone like Snoop...biggest mouth there is, and still gets the wrong message out!
You sound like you might be a tad bit racist. I don't know wether you've delt with black people on a professional level or not ,or what your perception is. In an effort to help unraffle but at the same time ruffle your feathers about the myth that you have, if I witness you doing something wrong, you might as well stick a fork in your a#% because you'd be done, Good Buddy. Yep you guess it, I'm snitching~~~~~~and I hope this helps you sleep better tonight now that the truth has been revealed.~~~~ just throw that old crusty fork in the trash, it's useless now, and just for the record I've never heard of a stop snitching campaign , sounds like some one just made it up to start a thread.
 slow_hand_001

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Posted: 1/30/2008 10:31:36 PM

Tad ignorant indeed....try taking a look at this problem and who supports the "don't snitch" attitudes!



a lot of memebers of the black community seem to support,


First of all, I am not ignorant of this issue. You reside in St Agathe which I doubt has much of a crime problem and most likely the only exposure you have had on this is a couple of 60 minutes shows on CBS.

There a lot of morons who support this campaign but the media lumps them all in one big pile just as you have with the statement "black community".

You need to step out of your safety zone and take a look at reality. Stop snitching is something picked up by wanna be gangsters trying to emulate the Italian code of silence employed by the Mob. Thats why you have Rappers with names like Beanie Sigel, Capone N Noriega and all other types of retarded names. Black culture did not invent stop snitching. It just evolved into the crime. If we need a reality check lets get this from the source.

Even cops have their own Blue Wall of Silence when they screw up but those kinds of things are only mentioned in extreme situations.
 Nordic33708

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Posted: 1/31/2008 8:45:03 AM
Should these "celebraties" be shunned by the media and therefore have their "popularity" obscured because of their "look the other way" attitudes?

If possible to do so, yes. I think so.

I also think parents need to keep their eyes open and find out what the different artists their kids listen to and have posters haning on the walls of, stand for, how they behave, and what message they are sending.
If I had a teenage daughter I would not let her idolize or spend her money on people like that little blonde Brittney for example.

I think media in general should start taking a look at their codes for conduct in workplace and apply that to what they spew out to the general media as well. If a person like that snoopy dog came to work at a radio station wearing such a T-shirt there would be objections. So why do the same radiostation advocate his music?

Unfortunatly morals are out the window these days in many communities and among businesses that are more concerned about making money.
 TEXASBANDIT

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Posted: 1/31/2008 10:59:40 AM
Should these "celebraties" be shunned by the media and therefore have their "popularity" obscured because of their "look the other way" attitudes?



If possible to do so, yes. I think so.

I also think parents need to keep their eyes open and find out what the different artists their kids listen to and have posters haning on the walls of, stand for, how they behave, and what message they are sending.
If I had a teenage daughter I would not let her idolize or spend her money on people like that little blonde Brittney for example.

I think media in general should start taking a look at their codes for conduct in workplace and apply that to what they spew out to the general media as well. If a person like that snoopy dog came to work at a radio station wearing such a T-shirt there would be objections. So why do the same radiostation advocate his music?

Unfortunatly morals are out the window these days in many communities and among businesses that are more concerned about making money.
as a 37 year old father I think it's fair to say that I don't look to other people to raise my kids, as parents we should not only try and instill good morals in our children at the most impressionable ages 1 yr Thru 5yrs old we should continue to do so until there adults or until they leave home on there own. I believe this is very important due to the fact most celebrities that our kids look up to have a connection with our kids, but the parents relationship should always be stronger than Brittney spears or Snoop Doggy Dog's, and to hear some people complain shows that in some ways they have lost a connection From their own kids, and Brittney spears or snoop dog is a justable excuse for there own failures............I use to wonder why most white people hate Brittney Spears, but now it's clear, when Brittany was part of the Micky mouse club or the show I forget what it's called, she was loved by kids and the parents, but as she got older and started to mature and her videos started to resemble a young lady instead of a little girl and especially after French kissing Madonna on live T.V. people got offended and rightfully so, but what she does and how she promotes her self, should never be an excuse for any one to claim she ruined there kids life, that's why I believe it's so important for a parent to be the biggest role model or celebrity in there kids life regardless of what the current fad is. the best protection I think I can give my 3 boys and baby girl is good morals and values, so that they'll be well equip to know whats wrong or right.
 yna6

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Posted: 1/31/2008 8:01:49 PM
Gee guys....I started a thread form a report on MSN...and thought about it. I figured it was worth discussion.
I've lived and worked a lot of places...from "Christie Pits" in Toronto (if you know that area, you know what I mean...if not...then let me say, it is a real cultural mix...with little tolerance for each other...especially when some of the guys have been drinking...sheesh!) Ottawa...where I've watched members of the black community get on TV proclaiming that a certain member of their community "just couldn't have been a bad guy"....after he was shot and killed after robbing a drug store and shot at the cops. Yeah...right....Thing was....most of my family couldn't believe it either, at first, but held back our opinion, because we knew the guy. Seemed like a real likeable person...but had a streak in him I guess. Got him killed in the end.
Rascist? No....sorry....the personal attacks aren't going to work. I came to a small town to get away from the crowding, violence, sensless crimes, etc, and raise kids and tomatoes.
But...I am glad to see that you went and actually saw that what I claimed was right...some "artists/muscians" do support this "don't tell" type BS. Good thought about them trying to follow the mafia "code". But...I guess some people accept being sheeple, and can't help but be victims without trying to stop it from happening.
 slow_hand_001

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Start snitching,’ crime-hit communities urge
Posted: 2/2/2008 2:59:22 PM
where I've watched members of the black community get on TV proclaiming that a certain member of their community "just couldn't have been a bad guy"....after he was shot and killed after robbing a drug store and shot at the cops.


Is this unlike when the same happens and a white mans family states the same thing ?

Crime is crime, black, white etc.

I think you are directing your anger at the black community as a whole. You cant expect to provide an educated unbiased discussi0n if your only reference is black crime. The media which has majority white ownership are quick to jump on the artists themselves while leaving out any mention of the owners of the companies that fund and release material from those artists.
You can not cure crime by pointing fingers. Stop snitching comes into play after the fact. Where is the crime prevention before the fact. Simply eradicating stop snitching will do as much as the death penalty....NOTHING.

Having been on the back side of a badge, I take searious issue with your views that ". . . cops . . . are the criminals", and (paraphrased) that Police Officers view themselves above the law, and will not turn in another cop.
this is just a diversion , so we dont blame the people that are really to blame for making there neighborhood a hell hole, they ask a lot of people that make less then 50,000 dollars a year,to partol them crappy places , well all i can say is thank god somebody is still willing to do it


This has got to be one of the stupidest things I have heard coming out of the mouth of a law enforcement official. You get paid your 50 grand a year to patrol those crappy places. Nobody is calling cops criminals. The good cops far outweigh the few rotten apples just as the few black and white criminals are a small percentage of the country.

Lets take a look at these neighborhoods, who created them ? Uncle sam in his good wisdom decided that when the slaves leave the plantations and move to the city, they should be concentrated in one area which receives little to no funding. No jobs, no way to make ends meet.

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