| Yet another damn reason why i hate dating
Posted: 4/28/2008 8:34:33 PM | LOL that is hilarious but in no way should make you stop dating. Are you mad man? This woman clearly has issues (IMO) so good riddens.
PS...I NEVER EVER EVER tip those Starbucks workers. Serving me a cup of joe is their job for peets sake. | |
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| Yet another damn reason why i hate dating
Posted: 4/28/2008 8:50:57 PM | Last week I had a similar discussion with a friend of mine who's a waiter at a fine dining restaurant and tips are his main source of income. At that time, we went to a fast food restaurant, I paid (my turn) but never left a tip. He later asked me if I left a tip and I said no. He explained to me that his rule of thumb regarding tipping in places like that is when he receives prompt, friendly service, he'll tip (not necessarily the same 15 - 20% you'd receive at a full service joint!). I understood his position and although our opinions differed I respected his right to tip, but it's not going to change the fact that I still won't tip at fast food restaurants and coffee joints.
Everyone is different: they have different ways of doing things, viewing the world, and reacting to situations. She tips at a Starbucks, you don't. She thinks that you had a nice time at the coffee house, you didn't. Sometimes it's hard for us to listen to others say when their opinions differ from our own (these forums are a prime example of that). Tolerance, having an open mind, and attempts to gain understanding can all go a very long way.
The bottom line...she's obviously not for you and you're not for her. Move on to the next experience with a smile, and possibly with the knowledge that you should put a little more trust in your first instinct. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 6:21:40 AM | LMAO. I just had a very lively debate about this last week!
I used to work for tips, so I consider myself a great tipper.... as long as the service was worthy of a good tip. Waitresses make next to nothing for wages~ so tips are where the money is. Starbucks make AT LEAST minimum wage.. and come on!!! They are making coffee!! I wouldn't tip them either. And the tip jar at the drive threw?????? WTH????? It just ain't right! | |
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| Yet another damn reason why i hate dating
Posted: 4/29/2008 5:13:23 PM | I cannot believe no one mentioned this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=enJwYaeolXc
BTW, I'd never tip at Starbucks. F^ck em. I don't care if they do have to put more froth on a latte, not that I drink that sh!t. And scooping ice cream? Isn't that their damn job anyway? Like Mr.Pink I've worked for minimum wage and didn't have a job that was tip worthy, but I still had to deal with a$$holes. Know what I did? Got a better job.
But if there were any more shoeshine men left, they'd get all my tips. There's nothing like a perfect shine on a pair of wingtips.
What I really hate is being asked by a cashier to donate money to some cause when I'm buying groceries. | |
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| Yet another damn reason why i hate dating
Posted: 4/29/2008 5:29:49 PM | Tipping is not the norm in Australia, thank god, because what a pain it all sounds!
The only time I might tip someone is when they have gone out of their way for me in a really unexpected way that has made my trip there worthwhile. And even then a profuse thank you would be more likely to be my response.
Your date should have quietly tipped if that is how she felt - in a subtle way so that you would not have been aware of it. She had no right to embarrass you. Of course if she hadn't have done it, she would have done something else that annoyed you. Clearly she was too opinionated and not laid back enough for someone like yourself.
If is hard finding those who think & feel things the same way we do but luckily it is easy to sort out those who don't! | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 5:30:00 PM | LOL... I would have RAN... Definately NOT a MATCH. She sounds like a control freak / psycho. Can you imagine that's your first time meeting... what would your future be like? OMG  | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 5:36:48 PM | Ah, I love Australia - no tipping required!  The older women here (like, 28+) are rather cool too. You should move here; they'll be all "WOW, you're such a GENTLEMAN!" for just basic good sense :p | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 5:43:51 PM | | Anyone who is crazy enough to go to Starbucks and pay five bucks for about 50 cents worth of coffee, is probably crazy enough to tip for it too. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 6:36:40 PM | | In places where they ave a "tip jar" I will normally go ahead and tip. I absolutely tip servers in restaurants well as they normally have a base pay of $2.13/hour. I cant recall tipping in a fast food business . | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 6:51:05 PM | | I'm an excellent tipper at restaurants, but counter service? That's silly. I do pop in some change in the jar occassionally, but I don't think this should be expected. They don't even bring the cup to your table at Starbucks, and god forbid you try and pick up your coffee at the wrong counter...I once had a Starbucks person make my coffee in front of me (with no one else in line, no one else behind the counter), and actually insist I meet her over at the other counter, and she then walked over to the other counter to hand me the coffee. No joke. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 7:01:09 PM | | Why in the hell should you tip at Starbucks when they don't make the server wages and they are already charging $5.00 for a cup of coffee? | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 7:11:14 PM | If I have to order my meal from a server and plan to stay and eat, I'll tip. I am actually a pretty good tipper if get decent service, but it will be a cold day in hell before I tip at the counter for a cup of coffee, or Subway, or any of the other places that have put the tip jar on the counter now.
Last time I went through a Dunkin Donuts they had a big tip jar right in the drive thru window. The lady had the jar labeled "TIPS' and sitting right in the opening so everyone HAD to see it. She moved it too the side to pass my coffee, then put it right back in the window, facing out. | |
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| Yet another damn reason why i hate dating
Posted: 4/29/2008 7:24:36 PM | I always tip at a coffee shop. I feel bad for the employees. They work damn hard and for little money, so I figure it's the least I could do to flip a dollar their way.
Of course, it IS a personal choice, but a little tip to you diners out there........Please tip at a buffet. Those servers work just as hard as those at sit-down restaurants, and earn the same below minimum wages. And try to consider whether your bad experience is the server's fault before stiffing them. Often times they are doing everything they can for you.
I have a special place in my heart for servers, so all of you out there please know that you are appreciated.
And please consider that servers more often than not have to pay into a tip pool at the end of their shifts. This consists of a percentage of their total sales. Yes, their SALES. So if you dine and dash, not only does she have to pay for your tab, she still has to cough up that percentage of your bill to the tip pool, even though you stiffed her. I've seen many servers leave their shift owing money. How sad is that? | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 7:47:57 PM | | Yes and I tip at buffets too. The servers get paid very little. I went to a buffet a few weeks ago with girlfriends. They did not want to tip the server that got them drinks and refills as well as hot sauce etc and also cleared their empty plates. I was so embarressed by my friends I left the server 20 dollars. I was indeed trying to embarress my companions. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 7:53:08 PM | | Yall are talking about tipping.. I wanna know why this woman had the nerve to ask for his MSN id then sorta finnagle (sp) her way into getting him to meet her.. That is so manipulative to me.. sheesh.. She sounds like a real piece of work.. and of course to top it all off.. the tip stuff is plainly strange.. I woulda tipped if a guy bought me a latte which I think was very nice of you.. but I wouldn't have expected him to tip cuz I had taken care of it.. and if I was gonna tip I wouldn't have put a few coins in either. | |
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| Yet another damn reason why i hate dating
Posted: 4/29/2008 8:42:59 PM | DarkVelvet,
It's a shame you had such a weird date. I discuss the tip with my fellow diners, but these are
people I've known quite a while. I worked for tips once, and I'm prior navy, so I probably tip as well as most if not better, in service situations. Tip jars at counters, don't think so.
Hey ex-navy, have you also noticed that Starbucks coffee is overpriced AND burnt? IMO, yow, it sucks. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 10:01:31 PM | afer it is realized many servers make over $20/hour and while your salary might be lower for working just as hard or harder, who's duty is it to pay the servers? that's the responsibility of the restaurant...are you suppose to let the restaurant take you for a fool?
i guess some won't wake up to it.
tell me, did it take $3 worth of effort to bring a single plate to your table?
And here's something most probably never even thought of:
if the plate of food cost $10, $20, or $30, do you really think the amount of energy to bring the plate was any different for each of the figures to justify a tip based on the price? Are we rewarding the cost of food or rewarding the work involved? LOL
some states pay the minimum wage and people still fall over themselves to tip. Oregon is one such state. I had a woman friend tell me she made $20-25 per hour while most others in this city earn just $8-12. Work hard at a lumber mill and then tip a service person who makes double you? VERY STRANGE!
best thing to do is to boycott tipping altogether and the IRS and restaurant owners will price the meals like other services. as I said before, do you pay a 20% tip for service performed to your car? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT.
this picking and choosing of which jobs get tips is ridiculous. why pay for a service that the person is doing as a normal course of work? I'd have to get a BJ by a female waitress to get a tip from me as that would be work performed above and beyond what they're SUPPOSE TO DO! | |
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| Yet another damn reason why i hate dating
Posted: 4/29/2008 10:37:39 PM | | I agree with halfalien,I think tips are an outdated tradition.In most states the minimum wage is lower for food servers because they make tips,I think that is silly and the minimum wage should should be the same for all.I usually give tips at a sitdown restaurant but I rarely do at fastfood joints.I never go to Starbucks because they are a ripoff,I can buy 1lb of coffee for $5USD and make 50cups of coffee. | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 5:06:42 AM | That is rather horrible how she was so riteous. I could not do that to anyone. That is just so mean and disrespectful to you. I think i would mention it quietly once i was at the table, but i wouldn't put anything in there to show u up. Hey, i know people have their pride. What she did just killed it. I don't blame u for walking out.  | |
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| Yet another damn reason why i hate dating
Posted: 4/30/2008 5:21:23 AM | *afer it is realized many servers make over $20/hour and while your salary might be lower for working just as hard or harder, who's duty is it to pay the servers? that's the responsibility of the restaurant...are you suppose to let the restaurant take you for a fool?*
I dont know of any server that makes $20/hour. Where are you dining? | |
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| Yet another damn reason why i hate dating
Posted: 4/30/2008 5:24:37 AM | I moved to Nova Scotia, Canada almost two yrs ago, and they tip everybody here, I can't believe it. I look at a place like Tim Horton's, some guys at work are now bragging how much money their wives make in tips, I would rather see that money go to the Kids Camp that the organization supports. I wonder how much money that organization has lost due to this tipping. The boxes were right at the drive through windows, now there is only a small box at the counter, you should see the looks I get when I tell them this is not a tip for you, this is to go into that little box on the counter for the children. | |
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