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Posted: 4/30/2009 2:36:19 PM | Well I agree with daniels assumption of the "variables" in the whole equation. There are just too damned many variables in this series to predict the outcome with any certianty. I do admit next weeks episode looks to be quite interesting since it seems we will seeing more of the group Locke and Ben and Sun are with and I see Sayid will be back again. But the original group from flight 815 and their fate during this time still remains a mystery. The longer this story goes on the more I am liking it.  | |
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Posted: 5/2/2009 10:14:22 PM | | I am enjoying this newest season, but its still dragging. They could have wrapped up more of this story line in fewer episodes. I do enjoy the time traveling element. That's made it interesting. And the dark matter possible element. But with LOST, you have to be patient to stay a fan. I look forward to another season. Not sure how long the show is going to go for. | |
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Posted: 5/3/2009 3:47:02 PM | | From what I've been hearing, next season will be the last. And with the seasons being so short, I think the producers will be wrapping it all up pretty quickly. I believe all that is left is to figure out who Jacob is, how Arron fits in (he is suppose to be some thing special,) where Claire has been and getting the island protected from Widmore for good. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2009 8:45:21 AM | OMG last nights episode here was the one where Faraday comes clean about time travel.
I know the purpose of the button now. OMG now that Jack n co are going back to the beach to start all over again, does that mean were back to square one, will they find themselves just landed and lost all over again. This is just wierd.
Love the quote that Hurley made about Fonzie days lol. He really does add humour to the show.
So glad Desmond is alive, but wheres Syeed?
How did the lady from the jewelry shop end up as a hostile though?
Brilliant episode last night, will watch the repeat tonight again. This is just brilliant. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2009 10:19:12 AM |
From what I've been hearing, next season will be the last. And with the seasons being so short, I think the producers will be wrapping it all up pretty quickly. I believe all that is left is to figure out who Jacob is, how Arron fits in (he is suppose to be some thing special,) where Claire has been and getting the island protected from Widmore for good.
Hmmm, I gots alot more questions than that! | |
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Posted: 5/4/2009 8:19:04 PM | I actually think I get everything now but who the heck Richard Alpert is and why he's terminally about 32 years old and wears eyeliner. lol
I'm now convinced Ben's a bad guy, Charles and Ellie are not see all know all's or bad people, they just heard the story from the cast members who traveled back in time and told them what was to come (Ellie in the last episode saying to Penny in the hospital "for the first time, I have no idea what's going to happen") - her pushing Daniel to study and telling him women in his life were going to get hurt and the grant and all that was obviously from Daniel or one of the Oceanic crew telling her the story as a young woman and a hostile.
I'm also suspicious now that Desmond never had premonitions, but rather memory lapses...alternate realities or dreams where bits and pieces of things that happened in his past but someone else's future that make him seem psychic.
I figure from here either Daniel will survive and trip the hyrdo bomb changing the course of events from before the 815 flight, or the Lost crew will finish what he started if he doesn't make it. In the end the plane will land in LA as planned and the passengers will walk away never knowing each other, and everything we watched for the past 6 years will turn out to be something that never happened. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2009 9:42:10 PM | That maybe so, but I don't think Locke will want to leave the island ever again. I'm still pulling for Ben to be the good guy. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but I just don't see how Widmore can be the good guy. We didn't get to see why Widmore was banished from the island and we also didn't see why Daniel's mother was taken off the island. We know that things were okay between them when they left the island. They had Daniel together. But something tore them apart. Most likely the reason Widmore want's to go back to the island and what he's doing to get there.
As it moves along, I think it is becoming more apparent that an alternate time line may be made. But as I've said before, they will remember what happened because they'll remember their own pasts. They'll just be in a different time line and that would allow Locke to stay on the island. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2009 5:49:26 AM | I think Daniel's idea is that if he blows up the island with the H-bomb then everybody should die on the island in 1977.....But everybody is still living and being born throughout the world at the present moment of 1977. ..So if they die in a firestorm on the island in 1977, how does that kill them if they are still growing up in America, Britian, Iraq, etc....? So maybe his idea is that if he blows up the island, then things will go normal in the future.(The island is no longer in the picture for 2004, since it was "Nuked" in 1977) Jack will never know Kate, Sawyer will never know Hurely, etc.... They will all board the airplane in 2004, but they will have no idea who anybody is.
Just because they "Nuke" the island, that does not condemn them to death since some of them are small children and some have not even been born in the year 1977. The island seems to be the only thing that connects them. Take the island out of the picture and things should go as planned(The flight landing and not crashing, since Desmond will not be on the island pushing the button).
Perhaps the very last episode will be one of which everybody is on the plane(inculding Shannon and that guy who blew himself up with the old TNT) and nobody knows what actually happened and the plane lands fine and everybody has a good trip.
But then again Locke is the "wildcard". Will he allow the island to be destroyed?...Most likely not.... Even though he never ended up in 1977, I think he stills plays a major role in this and will do whatever it takes to defend the isand.
Who know's...Maybe Jack messed up by not helping the childhood Ben.
Maybe that is why they were sent back to 1977, to help Ben stay "pure". By allowing the "others" to save him(Ben) they set the stage for future events and the rise of a Evil Ben. But then again, perhaps Ben would have turned out that way anyways since he did have a great deal of interest in the Hostiles. Or maybe Ben in 2004 does remember Jack, John, Sawyer, Kate, etc from the past and just keeps his mouth shut so that he can stay in power and maybe lure Locke away from the saftey of the hatch only to kill him....? | |
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Posted: 5/5/2009 11:51:16 AM | I don't think there is going to be any "Nuking" of the island..however I wouldn't be surprised if the end of the story didn't come to us in a blockbuster film directed and produced by Stephen Spielburg. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2009 4:15:42 PM | Okay I think few misconceptions need to be cleared up here.
First off Widmore was bannished from the island for having a child with a woman from off island. This was explained in a previous episode when Ben went down to the docks to see Widmore ( who was restrained) off on the sub.
Secondly Daniel isnt looking to "nuke the island". He is looking to set off the H bomb to counter act the effects of the drilling that will release a "Massive" amount of energy when they drill for the hatch. So the island wont be blown away. Remember the release of energy has already happened in the past..It's the how and why that Charolette and her mother left the island. It was also the reasons daniel gave for makin sure that "the Dr. was going to do what he was supposed to do". If you think about it if the blast form the past ( no pun there ..lol) happened in the past then all of the hostiles, including Ben would have been killed ( as they haven't killed off the Dharmites yet) and they weren't.
I do definately believe that Desmond had premonitions and not memory lapses. His premonitions were of things that had yet to happen, ie. Charlies death and Desmonds attempts to avoid it. The cases where Daniel prompted him to do things were the variables in the temporal equation. He only realized them at the moments in the future when daniel told him in the past. In my opinion it has to do with the effects he suffered in the hatch explosion ( he is now a time variable with Penny as his anchor).
As for who is the good guy and who is the bad guy.. I doubt either ben or charles are good and have proven themselves bad on many occasions. I do believe they have their own motivations for their actions and while they have had a few "good" moments they have had more bad ones. Each was corrupted by power when it was gained. The story of how and why Charles and the hostiles came to the island has yet to be told. I do have a wild hunch that Richard Alpert has a "biger picture "part in the whole story than whta has been let on to yet and cant wait to see how that unfolds.
The thing about this story is that you have to really pay attention to all the nuances and sub plots to fully understand and enjoy it. Each part no matter how trivial it may seem at the time it is shown will fill the voids of understanding later down the road. As for the 815 passengers landing unscathed in LA .. the more I rethink the situation I doubt it will happen that way as it will leave FAR too many questions unanswered and will sour the ending of the story. Of course I may be wrong and they may choose a Sopranos type ending just to tick us off..lol. | |
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Posted: 5/7/2009 9:25:20 PM | Here's a thought.... Richard Alpert might actually be an Egyptian who discovered eternal life. Remember the runes on the walls where Smoke comes out? It maybe that He was one of the true natives of the island. Also, it may be possible that we can go back to my original idea that the island is actually Atlantis and Alpert is the last Atlantian! If Atlantis had the power it is suppose to have, it might have not sank at all... but moved through time!
Just food for thought. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 7:35:37 AM | | ^^interesting.......might give more credence to the way he looked when he met young Ben in the forest LOL. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 1:22:43 PM | Interesting idea.. It would explain a few things.. especially the eyeliner 
I do wonder if Jacob will actually be human or not or if he will be something like smokie is ( non corporial). We keep seeing a duality in the whole storyline so it would follow that Jacob would be the opposite of smokie in that sense.
No matter how it turns out it has been an interesting ride thusfar. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 8:55:33 AM | | Yes, it could that is so. But I'm not so sure Smokie is a bad being. If it was, it might have tried to kill Locke instead of leaving when it first met him. Of course... here's another idea. What if Jacob and Smokie are one and the same, with Smokie being the body and Jacob the soul? It could be that they've been turn apart some how and Jacob needs to be reunited with Smokie to be whole again. Hmmmm. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 2:12:45 PM | ^^^ It is possible. I do believe there were two carvings in the temple ( one who looked similar to Ra and not sure about the other) just above the holes where smokie appears from. they may be smokie and Jacobs corporial forms? I do believe that the current timeline crash survivors, the ones from Franks flight, know more about the island they are letting on. I am however, curious though on how Locke is planning on killing Jacob and why Smokie told Ben he had to help Ben in his "mission" if they are in essence one in the same. I aslo recall Mr. Echo was spared the first time he met Smokie as well, only to be killed by smokie later on..and the three men form Russo's group were also influenced by smokie after one was dragged into the temple and then the others followed to rescue the first one. So I am not all to sure about smokie being either good or bad but it is definetly working on its own agenda.
I also think Kate has more to lose than anyone if the timeline returns to normal..Remember she is after all facing murder charges back in the states. Locke has stated he now has a purpose and he is workin ong that so one way or the other I am not sure he is too worried about leaving or not leaving the island. He seems to have some information that we dont know yet. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2009 6:28:38 PM | Ok I had to dig this thread up but I just have to say this.....................what are the producers of Lost thinking?
We are definitely afew weeks behind you guys in The States and the episode I watched last night was where you find out that Daniel is now Charles's son.....................WTF is that about?
Please somebody tell me it will make sense later on or fill me in or this Lostie is going to bail out very soon..................nothing makes sense anymore!!! HELP | |
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Posted: 5/13/2009 7:24:38 PM | ^^^So weird...for me the last few episodes are finally starting to clear a lot of things up for me - it makes more sense to me more now than ever. Tonight a lot of clarification especially...
I say tonight they will drop the bomb and make the change, and season 6 will be all about the end result and the timeline returns to what it should have been, and they'll show both the island and the 815 crew and what would have been. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2009 6:13:25 AM | All I can say is,"AAAAGGGGHHH!!!"
There've been a few cliffhanger types of season finales so far,but this year's finale certainly took the cake. I think it gave us more questions than it answered. And now we have to wait till next fall or early winter to have them answered. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2009 10:15:45 AM | Oh man... I cried when .... died. (edited because others haven't seen it yet.) It did drive me nuts with all the changing of her mind through out the episode. I really can relate with .... because he stood to his guns, even when she kept changing her mind. In the end, I wept. Such pain... such love.
I don't think this is going to change anything. I think it will only blow them all into the present again. Remember Jacob said "Their coming."
Oh yes... and now we meet the mysterious Jacob. He's very very very old, but looks like he's in his 30's. Next year I imagine we'll learn more about what his roll was back when the island belonged to HIS people, not the army left overs that became the Others.
My point about Ben was also proven last night. He is the good guy. Doing what he was asked to do and never questioning. Loyal to a fault... even if it meant lying and killing someone to keep the island safe. Poor Ben... he was just a tool and didn't know it.
Locke... Locke... what can I say? That just put a whole new twist on things! "Looks like you found the loophole." | |
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Posted: 5/14/2009 11:32:42 AM | So who's really in charge of smokie? Jacob or his "friend"? Or is smokie "his friend". Was Christian really "his friend" in disguise and then discovering that using Christian's body couldn't accomplish killing Jacob, he abandoned that? If so, could that mean "they're coming" is a bad thing?
Maybe Jacob's friend started the "others" tribe and Jacob somehow took over after? WHY couldn't somebody else kill Jacob?
Maybe Mr. Eko figured something out so smokie killed him?
This would make sense as when Ben went underground to talk to smokie, his daughter was really Jacob's friend instructing him to follow "Locke". Ben discovered smokie, but was totally unaware that it was or summoned by Jacob's friend.
Of course, there is always the mystery as to whether Jacob is good or bad. Who knows maybe Jacob is bad and that's why his friend wanted to kill him and once others started arriving on the island, he began to see a way - it just took 30 years.
So. Since we see Locke's purpose (unless he had another), where does that leave Richard? On Jacob's side or not?
Someone will have died for sure at the end of this season, but perhaps it may NOT be who we think it is.....
And YEAH!!! for Rose and Bernard and Vincent. I'm glad they were back LOL. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2009 11:47:10 AM | I feel that Locke in front of Jacob was really Lazarus (or whoever the guy was in the opening scene with Jacob) in the form of Locke, explaining why Locke's body was in that cargo box, and why Locke wasn't very surprised to see Jacob or recognize him when they finally met. And Richard saying to John "you look different now" makes a lot of sense when you consider it may not have actually been Locke at all.
I also think the scene with Locke, Jacob and Ben was almost like a scripture relating to the unfavored brother who never measured up and finds out he was only involved to assist others in their gain.
I do believe now that a lot of the people that appear and dissapear may be either this guy opposite Jacob taking on their form delivering messages to get the survivors to make certain choices along the way to benefit the greater picture (good or bad). | |
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Posted: 5/14/2009 1:49:52 PM | | TooShadows~~~~I totally agree with you. More questions ~~ few answers. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2009 2:06:42 PM | I agree when ...fell. I cried out loud >>NOOOOO!! of all the people you killed it was.... how damn mad I am. As for those who now have more questions than before I guess I cant share a seat in your boat ( or dugout canoe..lol). We now know more about Jacob and how he touched each of the "losties" lives.
As for Lazarus I am now convinced he IS smokie..He took Christians body over and then found out that his best way to get to Jacob was in Locke's body...Ben provided the loophole he was looking for. I am still not sold on Ben being a good guy after all if I am right and smokie is indeed Lazarus then Ben was simply a terrified pawn who fit the need Lazarus had to kill Jacob. It means Ben and all the others on the island are merely pawns in a game that we have yet to determine the outcome.
In the beginning scene with Lazarus and Jacob you need to pay carefull attention to what they said to each other and this will indeed explain alot of what is, and has been, going on on the island. My still unanswered question is who are/ where these two and what is, as the late Paul Harvey would say, " The rest of their story".
All in all I loved the cliffhanger and cant wait to see how they wrap this story up..and to those who are ready to walk away I think it is good that the producers have said that all questions will be answered and the story will be tied up and finished. There wont be any open endings for possible movies or anything that could lead to a spinoff or prequil type garbage. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2009 2:34:44 PM | | That was some good acting, watching Ben getting slowly pissed off as he talked to Jacob. Then when Jacob dissed him and Ben went Jackie Chan on him. I'm wondering now if Locke is possessed by some evil spirit. Maybe he's turned "bad". I'm still confused as ever and PO'd that we have to wait so damn long to see the final season. I think the writers did too much LSD in the seventies. I'll miss the show when it's gone for good. At least it isn't predictable. It was cool to see Rose and Bernard again. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2009 3:37:03 PM | Ok this is a long shot.
Jacob said "They're coming"
But whom?.....
Is he referring to the people just outside the remnants of Reptile/human statue(The foot) with Lockes body?
Or (Now here is the long shot. And yes it's a big time long shot)
Could this be something of biblical or ancient proportions?
The reptile/human statue is holding the ancient Egyptian symbol called the "Ankh". The Ankh is the symbol of eternal life. The gods are often seen holding an ankh to some one's lips this is considered to be an offering of "The Breath of Life". The breath you will need in the afterlife. Jacob lives at the base of the statue and seems to have long lasting life.(Plus he seems to have brought Locke back from the dead) The statue is also wearing a crown very similar to a crown worn by Serapis. The crown or basket that Serapis wore was representing of his fertility and as well as his association with Osiris ..Hmmmm. maybe this answers some more questions.
Osiris was usually called the god of the Afterlife. Osiris was not only a merciful judge of the dead in the afterlife but also the underworld agency that granted all life. Could the smoke moster be Osiris? Afterall it spared Ben.....
And Horus is also another ancient Egyptian god. Could there be something more there as well?
The reptile/human statue could (maybe) be the ancient Egyptian god called "Set".
Set was the god of the desert, and necessary chaos. Sounds a bit like Jacob. Remember the desert is the key to getting off of the island.......
Could it also have something to do with Planet X(Nibiru) which is supposed to come close to earth in 2012 and may have some sort of reptilian/human beings residing on it. (I think the reptilian beings supposedly call themselves the Anunaki). The ancient Egyptians did believe there was a reptilian race of gods.....Food for thought.
Big time long shot. More then likely I'm wrong.
Here's a video that some of you may find interesting (use google to find it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syP6I6L3ZGE&feature=related | |
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