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Posted: 5/20/2009 3:44:35 AM | kuddlekitty .....
"What if they never came back to the island, because they never actually left the island, but were led to believe they left the island......
hmmmmm...."
It could all be a vision or dream.....
Faraday's experiments in Oxford revolved around the rats conciousness travelling through time...
So, all those on the Island could just be in a big lab experiment of travelling through time in mind only hence the reason for Lock knowing the future from a postion of being in the past....
But as Ben said we're the good guys, and there's going to be a war and bad guys will win...
So the plot could be, an enemy also has got the technology as well and plans to use it to alter the past e.g. to ensure Germany/Japan gets the atomic bomb first..
And the whole series is about war between the two sides fought through mind time travel... | |
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Posted: 5/20/2009 6:59:54 AM | ^^^^^Interesting theory but I hope that's its more than mind time travel.
It has been established that this island has extraordinary properties and it must have some fountain of youth. (e.g Richard). I think that Jacob and his friend are supernatural beings which is why they couldn't kill each other. And how Jacob's friend can possess dead bodies.
As for smokie, I still think that Jacob's friend is/was in control of that and that he possessed Ben's daughter who told Ben to listen to Locke in order to fulfill killing Jacob. It seems like Jacob's friend has been calling the shots of late. Now enter Alana though......But as mentionned Jacob's friend could be Osiris...
I completely agree. I was shocked when they showed Locke's dead body. Here I was thinking that I finally liked Locke again and it wasn't even him! I also think that Christian is really dead and Jacob's friend has possessed him too.
We've always known that this is a story about destiny and they showed that Jacob has obviously been watching the survivors throughout their lives and he saved Locke's life when he was pushed from that building. I have always said that Locke should have died in that fall! And all the survivors should have died in that plane crash. And how their lives have intertwined in ways they don't even realize yet. We are finally starting to see how that destiny has been working through the years.
I think that Miles was right when he said that maybe blowing up the magnetic field always happened and it was the survivors actions by blowing it up that caused the magnetic field to become unstable and consequently cause their plane to crash. Maybe they are stuck in some kind of time loop and they just keep going around in circles. Next season could be them crashing again and showing us how these events just keep happening until someone breaks the loop. Maybe Jack is supposed to save Ben or maybe they should not blow up the magnetic field. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2009 10:01:35 AM |
I think that Miles was right when he said that maybe blowing up the magnetic field always happened and it was the survivors actions by blowing it up that caused the magnetic field to become unstable and consequently cause their plane to crash.
Interesting theory, but the explosion happens in 1977 - it's somewhat strange that the magnetic field doesn't cause anything else in those 30 years to crash....well other than Desmond's boat. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2009 1:11:40 PM |
Interesting theory, but the explosion happens in 1977 - it's somewhat strange that the magnetic field doesn't cause anything else in those 30 years to crash....well other than Desmond's boat.
None that we know of, however, they did mention that they have been pushing a button every 108 miniutes to keep the magnetic field stable. They established they had 2 people in that station at any given time until Desmond's partner was killed. Desmond was still pushing that button for months (years?) after his partner died. It wasn't until he neglected to push the button that one time in 2004 that brought the plane down. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2009 5:53:18 PM | Did you ever think about John locke's dad?
Everyone else who died on the island came back in one way or another.
I think he is Pseudo Locke. | |
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Posted: 5/21/2009 12:26:02 AM | I want to see the back story of the Blackrock. It seemed to me that it was the boat approaching the island, when buddy was telling Jacob how much he wants to kill him.
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Posted: 5/21/2009 4:59:28 AM | I think that Miles was right when he said that maybe blowing up the magnetic field always happened and it was the survivors actions by blowing it up that caused the magnetic field to become unstable and consequently cause their plane to crash. Maybe they are stuck in some kind of time loop and they just keep going around in circles. Next season could be them crashing again and showing us how these events just keep happening until someone breaks the loop. Maybe Jack is supposed to save Ben or maybe they should not blow up the magnetic field.
I agree with this. I remember the scene where Miles watched his father tell his mom to leave the island with him when he was a baby, and it solved a lot of questions for him. Essentially, Miles would have not been on the island in 1977 had it not been for his dad sending his mom away - and watching his dad yell at his mom to get her to leave he found out what the circumstances were.
That whole scenario seemed to be unchanged, despite the fact that they were supposed to be shifting the course of events. Miles' character would have every right to wonder if the accident at the Swan WAS the bomb, since he witnessed firsthand events he remembered hearing about from the time he was a small child. I almost think that the bomb was the cause of what Farraday studied while in Ann Arbor, but the events he read about weren't explained in detail. As in he thought he was preventing the hatch, but may have either not changed it being built, or caused it to be more of a priority. | |
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Posted: 5/21/2009 5:18:30 AM | That whole last 3 -5 minutes of the last episode is amazing.
What I want to know is what will Marvin Candle do now that he realizes they are from the future? we know that they make the hatch and atleast one more video. but with all of the knowledge why does dharma still get killed off?
What is significance of Jacob? You could see him in the cabin with a beard and long hair, could that be pseudo locke? | |
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Posted: 5/21/2009 3:43:49 PM |
What I want to know is what will Marvin Candle do now that he realizes they are from the future?
Who is Marvin Candle?
but with all of the knowledge why does dharma still get killed off?
Because Ben gasses them all. Nothing that happened so far in 1977 has changed his actions. Actually the fact that Kate gave Ben to the Others which solidified his bond with them, could have been like signing darmha's death certificate.
What is significance of Jacob? You could see him in the cabin with a beard and long hair, could that be pseudo locke?
I'm wondering about Jacob too. I suspect that he is the guardian of the island or he symbolizes the "good" forces in play. I don't remember seeing him with a beard and long hair. I know that Christian was used as a stand in for Jacob in a couple of cabin scenes. I think that Christian is/was also possessed by the same guy who possessed Locke. | |
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Posted: 5/21/2009 8:49:27 PM | That wasn't Jacob in the cabin, that Locke saw, and heard; I firmly believe now that it was the buddy who wanted to kill Jacob. That is what the ash surrounding the cabin was for, he was imprisoned in there, probably by Jacob. When Alana comes out of the cabin, and before she orders it burned, she says that "he hasn't been there for a long time". I can't remember off-hand who did it; but, someone disturbed some of the ash, which, I believe, allowed the prisoner to roam free.
Marvin Candle is a pseudonym that Dr Chang used in a few of the Dharma films; he also went by the name Edgar Halliwax in others.
I also agree that it wasn't Jacob who took the form of Christian Shepard, it was the other buddy.
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Posted: 5/22/2009 6:31:21 AM | That's right.
I wish I could figure out who disturbed the ash.
I am still thinking about how jack sawyer and kate werent around for the dharma poisioning gas. I think Miles was right. and I want to know what happends to haliwax after the bomb ecplodes.
I seen his had get crushed and now know why he has a fake one in the swan video.
I want to know if he gets killed off or leaves the island.
Jacob i believe is a guardian of the island who traveled through time to meet everyone who was supposed to come to the island at a significant point in their life.
Season 6 is going to rock. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2009 9:39:54 AM | how come the fat guy never loses weight i thought if your were starnded on an island you would starve look at survivor      | |
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Posted: 5/22/2009 9:57:52 AM | The island decided that Hurley doesn't need to change so much physically but mentally.
(other than the fact that its a tv show) I have no other explanation. Maybe he has a very big stash of dharma goodies? | |
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Posted: 5/22/2009 4:14:05 PM | What I want to know is; When Ben shot locke and left him for dead, how in the hell did Walt appear and say You've got work to do(and apparently he told him he needed to see jacob).
Did the island use the image of Walt like when Shannon seen him before he got shot? | |
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Posted: 5/22/2009 7:35:14 PM | As for who disturbed the ash around the cabin..it was Hurley who did it just before he went into the cabin way back in the episode where he was wandering around in the jungle that night with Charlie. As for the season and the episode I couldnt tell ya but I do remember that they showed a close up shot of the ash being disturbed when Hurley tripped in the dark and fell.
As for the losties seeing other who were either dead or gone from the island if you go back you will see many of them have seen similar things. Jack saw his dead father in a few early episodes and went running off into the woods to catch him. Shannon saw walt before she got shot and I am also curious how those will be explained away. We all know Walt was "special" from the time he was taken by the others. We have yet to find out why or how and I hope they cover this in the next season. Remeber when Walt told Locke not to open the hatch before anyone else but Locke and Boone knew about it? | |
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Posted: 5/23/2009 9:36:52 AM | | You know how the birds kept flying into the windows where walt was staying? Well I'm pretty sure birds sense of direction has to do with electro magnetism and that's why they kept flying towards him. He is indeed special. It would seem as tho Locke and Walt both have parent issues. I think that the temple in which the smoke monster stays has almost everything to do with the mystery of the island. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2009 9:54:33 AM | And one more thing!
When Ben first meet's Alpert, he has long hair, bit of a beard, and dirty looking clothes, and in every other time we see him(past or future) he is well kempt and clean.
Why was he dirty the first time he met Ben? Did Jacob tell Alpert that in order for you to get your powers back you need to go find Ben(who we assume he doesn't know yet) and tell him he needs to be patient.
Then in the timezone of lost 3 years(actually about 30) pass and young Ben is shot by Sayid and taken by a clean Richard Aplert to the smokie temple.
(Then we see Ben when he is a little bit older, back with the Dharma inititave without any other of the cast members besides Horace). | |
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Posted: 5/25/2009 6:38:38 AM |
What I want to know is; When Ben shot locke and left him for dead, how in the hell did Walt appear and say You've got work to do(and apparently he told him he needed to see jacob).
Did the island use the image of Walt like when Shannon seen him before he got shot?
If you read some of the others posts on here, I believe I said that Jacob's friend was using other people's bodies to get his agenda completed.
Maybe Richard looked unkempt on purpose to satisfy some idea that Ben had in his head....
Your questions relate to the whole idea of time travel, which I believe another poster already explained..... | |
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Posted: 5/26/2009 2:20:53 PM |
why didn't Hurley lose weight...
Maybe he has a very big stash of dharma goodies?
Actually he did. There was an episode in season 3 or 4 I believe where Hurley showed someone (I can't remember who...Charlie?) that he did have a stash of food. Dharma dropped supplies from a plane and there was food in the hatch. Hurley admitted that he was stealing food and he was eating constantly because he was stressed. They have dealt with his weight issue.
Also, don't forget he was only on the island for 100 days not 3 years. Noone lost weight and they never said that anyone ever went hungry. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 7:53:59 AM | Ok I finally found this thread again. Now OP here in Australia we have just had the last episode of the Season we've been watching. It was Juliet who goes down the tunnel (I'm just happy it wasn't Kate) and I can only assume that is the end of Season Five. So we must be 2 seasons behind the rest of you.
Yes?? | |
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