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Posted: 2/22/2008 2:51:01 PM | | All I really noticed was the cute toddler and the even cuter men. Seriously though, I thought Kate's baby was Sawyer's until she called him Aaron. Still confused but will continue to watch. Aren't we just about out of new episodes? | |
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Posted: 2/22/2008 3:26:06 PM | ^^^Whoa, didn't catch that - I'm watching it again today...very interesting. If that's true, then that means Claire didn't make it and they took Aaron so he'd be ok - no clue why Aaron wouldn't stay with Claire unless she was in some sort of danger or she'd been killed.
But it's clear that if Jack can't be around the kid, that it upsets him too much because of what actually happened.
According to my count, I believe we have about three episodes left - hopefully it'll be a short layover until the writers' new stuff kicks in - I am hoping they'll continue them in April at some point.
Oh, and P.S. my jaw hit my coffee table last night when I saw Josh Holloway in almost nothing. Holy...what a piece of eye candy that guy is!  | |
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Posted: 2/22/2008 4:36:45 PM | | I just thought of a another possibility about the baby. Kate kidnaps the baby from Clair. Because the only thing is waiting for Kate off the island is the authorities. Claiming the child her own and tell a story how she have to survive on the island would gain compassion and sympathy from the public. | |
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Posted: 2/23/2008 4:10:04 PM | Entertainment Weekly has this to say in this weeks edition. I've edited alot of it because most is not really anything new.
"This year is all about the castaways' relationship with the freighter folk." says Cuse of the season's four intriguing new characters. "Our heroes will find themselves defending the island they wanted to leave." Adds Lindelof: "How did some people get off the island-and what happened to the people who didn't? That's the mystery that we owe the answer to at the end of the season." Another mystery that'll be answered: The identity of the Coffin Corpse from Jack's flash-forward."
As for the Oceanic 6:
".... Ben is living off-island along with Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid. So is he one of the Oceanic 6 whose fates have been teased this season? The producers suggest that Ben could have passed himself off as a passenger; after all, he has all those fake passports. But they also promise that the guessing game will end on March 13. By the end of the seventh episode, "all the candidates will have been fielded," says Cuse."
Who is Jacob?
"We'll see more of the ghostly entity's roaming cabin this year, but Cuse says Jacob is an important endgame mystery that will be fully unpacked in the final two seasons."
Best news for long time fans.
"...five new episodes the producers are about to shoot will continue to emphasize the original cast -- including Michael, who's finally slated to return... " "...Juliet will be showcased in the March 6 outing." | |
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Posted: 2/24/2008 6:34:55 AM | Ok, My take on it.
Somehow Ben was freed, either he escaped or one of the captors let him go. He is once again in the postion of power, not sure how he always manages this, but could be his knowledge , acquired by the time on the island and the time off the island, past future, etc.
Anyways, he is holding many of the survivors hostage now on the island, and this is why only six were allowed to leave. They were the original castaways that were on Ben's list to begin with. He wanted certain adult survivors and all the children. We know now why he wanted the children to re-populate the island, since the woman there could not survive pregnancy or childbirth , nor the babes either.
Anyways, he has this list, of people who threaten his plans for the island, whatever they are. And each of the people he has allowed to leave the island are responsible to do Ben's bidding, in Sayid's case kill the people on that list.
Not sure yet what the other survivors that left the island have to do. In Kate's case I think another poster is right, Claires baby is special in some way. So her assignment is to raise and mother that baby. Claire must have died, or for some reason was made to stay on the island. Maybe Ben wants her to have more "special babies". So Kate has to mother the child.
Not sure about Jack. I think Hurley had a job too, and his way of avoiding this is to commit himself to the crazy house, to make it impossible for Ben to get at him. Remember Charlie came back and told Hurley to stop hiding out, that they needed him.
To sum it up here, somewhat , what I am thinking.
Ben is holding the other survivors hostage to make these six do what he needs done.
The helicopter people were doing Ben's bidding and rebelled, they went to the island to kill Ben to remove his hold on them. They were also made to do things for the same reason these six are. To protect people they loved or cared about.
It is obvious that Sayid is not acting willingly, there is a reason that he is killing these people, not because he wants to work for Ben, but has to.
Jack wants to go back to the island to try to save the hostages, he is regretting leaving in the first place because what Ben is making them all do, is impossible for him to live with. He wants to once again be the hero and come to the rescue of the other crash survivors, because that is who he is. And since he is going against his moral beliefs to safeguard the hostages, he is drinking and drugging, or because he left in the first place.
As far as the person in the coffin, I am now thinking it is not anyone that was in the plane originally, unless it is one of the oceanic six, that could not do what Ben commanded and killed himself. Maybe Sawyer, they havent shown him yet, and he was one of the original people of interest to Ben. But I am having a hard time remembering all of them. Remember Ben sent for Jack, Hurley, and Kate, Sawyer.
The other two, were probably Locke, and Sayid.
Possibly since there was no family in attendance at the wake one of them killed themselves, that would be either Locke or Sawyer. Sawyer's has stated that his goal is survival, so might be Locke, after all.
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Posted: 2/24/2008 6:46:54 AM | LOL, back again. More reasons I think Locke is in the coffin, he was forced to leave the island and didnt want to, and now he is a cripple again, and was forced to leave the island that he had such a connection to. Ben probably did not want him on the island with him anyways, because he was jealous of Locke and that connection.
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Posted: 2/24/2008 1:12:23 PM | I don't think it will be Locke in the Box (little pun there) simply because he is a major player in things.
Has anyone thought about Smokie? What if Smokie is Jacob? I don't know how they would work that around, but even Ben doesn't know what Smokie is.
Let's take characters and past histories in to account. Who has done what and how are they all connected.
Locke had a father who was a con-man. Locke's dad was involved with Sawyer's past. Jack's dad met Locke's father.
How much are you willing to bet that Locke's dad also somehow was connect to Ben? Ben's smart, but I don't think he know's how to make passports that look real. That takes a professional. Someone like.... Locke's dad.
Any other tie-in's that you can make giving what we now know? | |
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Posted: 2/24/2008 1:16:56 PM | To scryer41 message,
Don't forget that Sawyer also met Jack's father in Australia at a bar. Weeks or days before jack's father died, because Sawyer was going to kill a man, wait Sawyer did kill that man.
Sawyer screwed over Kate's best friend before the island.
If I remember right in the first season Locke let the smoke take him, but Jack rescued him. Jack told that thing was going to kill " him" meaning Locke, but Locke actually believes it wasn't. In the first season nobody knew what that thing was, they never showed it. I just remember the sound it made as if it was something mechanical.
Desmond met Jack before the island at a stadium. Desmond was training for a race, and Jack showed up to run too. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2008 3:01:13 PM | | Yep, I'm still confused. I just watch the show and let it flow over me. Too much thinking about it causes strain on the brain. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2008 3:38:25 PM | So what do you think about the hostage possibility , Scryer?
Do you think that Ben is holding the other survivors hostage in order to get the
other ones to do his bidding back in civilization?
I do not think that Sayid is acting willingly, so and something is eating at Jack, to cause the drug use and the loss of his profession as a doctor. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2008 4:53:32 PM | | Ok, watched the show again - with closed captioning to be absolutely sure. Kate clearly called the child "Eric". So I am back to my theory in message post #49. Sawyer's the father...we shall see what develops... | |
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Posted: 2/24/2008 10:18:16 PM | sadly closed captioning can often be incorrect.
this ABC link to the recap states that Kate definitely says "Hi Aaron".
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=recap#t=46481&d=81573
If this show keeps up the way it has been pretty soon I'll be IN the institution WITH Hurley and I then can just ask when I get there!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. | |
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Posted: 2/25/2008 10:23:36 PM | Summerbout said:
So what do you think about the hostage possibility , Scryer?
Do you think that Ben is holding the other survivors hostage in order to get the
other ones to do his bidding back in civilization?
I do not think that Sayid is acting willingly, so and something is eating at Jack, to cause the drug use and the loss of his profession as a doctor.
I think Ben is devious enough to make anyone do what he wants. But I also think that, in the end, he'll prove himself to be "one of the good guys." Ben knows why this company is looking for him. He also knows that they are not going to be good for the island. It may be that he actually convinces the "6" to at the least willingly lie about the island and what happened there. I don't like the "Bug-Eyed B**stard", but maybe there's a higher purpose he is working toward. He knows Jacob and as the producers have stated, Jacob will become the key figure in the last two seasons.
I think Ben knows that the island is at the center of a "time/space" vortex and has managed to travel using it's powers to many times and places. That would explain the passports. We didn't see the dates and such. So ... it's possible.
Wweeee! It's fun to try and figure out a chinese puzzle box! This is just as fun! | |
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Posted: 2/29/2008 12:49:14 PM | | I didn't really enjoy last night's episode, really too confusing. This "time warp" crap wears on my last good nerve. I'll still watch, but that Jeremy Davies always creeps me out. Are all the writers on acid? | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 1:13:31 PM | Funny, I liked it!
It did two major things
a) It started a subplot and finished it within one episode
b) It confirmed the time warp theory I have had for so long absolutely & positively without question 
In light of that I feel like they are getting a bit more back on track, plotwise, at least. For a change I am actually looking forward to next week's episode.
And on a sidenote its now my favorite night of TV watching, really the only one worth watching it seems, as I can watch Survivor and then LOST. Now if they could only put Boston Legal after it would be close to perfect. I could be the perfect vegetable. Where is the vegetable emoticon?  | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 6:39:50 PM | I cried... Sorry. Seeing how Des and Penny finally make contact and it was bitter sweet. I hope these two finally do get back together and live happily ever after. To me, they are the heart of romance for this series. It's not the Sawyer, Kate, Jack story plot.
When someone loves someone else for that long and holds on to that hope of getting back with them... that is love. I know it well. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2008 10:41:05 PM | I agree about Dez and Penny,..... besides the timing was perfect plus I just got new contacts and my eyes were getting dry and I starting sniffling at the right moment LOL
Todays show was certainly in interesting one from Juliette's POV and Ben just keep son getting slippery-er? and slippery-er LOL. I love that so many ties are coming together FINALLY! I also enjoy all the little sublines on the previous weeks show when it is replayed to give insight. | |
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Posted: 3/7/2008 5:07:23 PM | This new character they've brought in... the shrink that Juliett talks with, I wonder just how much she will be involved in this. She can appear and disappear instantly, making me believe she might be one of the "Time" people. Anyone notice that just before she appears and just before she disappears those creepy whispers start up? Voices from multiple dimensions? Hmmmm. And Juliette acts like she didn't know what was going on. Again... hmmm.
It does not surprise me that Penny's father is involved in trying to find the island. I believe he was the man in the fake commercials that ran during LOST a couple of years back. If you'll remember, in one shot of that commerical, they show a man in a window. That man looks very much like Penny's father. Does anyone remember the name of the company? If I also remember right, that company was dealing in very high technology from cloning and genetics to other scientific projects. I wouldn't be surprised if Time / Dimensional Travel is one of those projects.
I now revise my thoughts as to who may be in the coffin. I think it may be Juliette. I'm not saying it is, but I think it might be. Especially after she admitted she had feelings for Jack.
Damn... What does he have that I don't have? Oh yeah! Good looks! Lucky dog! | |
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Posted: 3/8/2008 6:40:44 AM | | Okay so I've been reading some LOST forums and a lot of people seem to think that the last 2 people who are in the "Oceanic 6" are Jin and Sun. I was hoping Sawyer would be one of them and that he was the "HE" Kate was talking about when she said she had to get back, but now I think because of what he said that he will either die or stay on the island. I'm really curious to find out how Kate gets Aaron as well. | |
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Posted: 3/8/2008 9:06:31 AM | I think somewhere along the line, Claire is going to die. She's become a pretty useless character and hasn't had much imput into the story line. Her son, however, is suppose to be special... (perhaps he becomes Jacob in the future) and that's why he is still in the picture. Sun gets off the island but is she a one of the six? I'm not sure.
Oh... and if anyone hasn't figured out who the SPY is on the ship... shame on you! I gave you hints and so did Ben. :)
I know who it is.... his name is my name too. | |
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Posted: 3/8/2008 10:08:45 AM | **Possible Spoilers***
The Spy is Michael isn't it?? Or maybe it's someone totally unexpected that we all think is dead but who isn't actually? lol Ok maybe that's just wishful thinking. | |
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Posted: 3/8/2008 6:40:08 PM | I won't tell, but my name is his name too. "My name is (Hmm Hmm.) I got a nickle. I got a nickle, shiny and new. I'm gonna buy me all kinds of candy. That's what I'm gonna do."
I've just read a review for LOST in Entertainment Weekly. It has declaired that LOST is back to being it's good story telling self. I for one never thought it had lost it's track. But... I just happen to enjoy chinese puzzle boxes. | |
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