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Posted: 3/9/2008 12:13:36 PM | | Hmm Okay well is your name Micheal then? I do really think it's Micheal. Wouldn't it be awesome however if it was Charlie? It has to be someone that we thought we wouldn't see again which logically has to be Micheal or Walt, though I can't see Walt being the spy. | |
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Posted: 3/9/2008 3:15:15 PM | No... I doubt very much that it will be Walt. But he may be around somewhere along with Michael. I would not rule out Charlie, though he is officially dead because he states he is when he speaks to Hugo in the yard of the nut house. But I'm pretty sure it will be Michael because the producers said he would be back this season.
The way I see it... Michael and Walt got picked up on the way out of the island's effect. Like the psychotrist said... "Ben is exactly where he wants to be." This just lends more truth to the idea that he may be time jumping along with some of the other island members. He most likely knew ahead of time that the frighter people were coming and let Michael and Walt leave to become spies on the ship. How they are communicating is a mystery.
Do I get a kiss from you ladies if I am right about it being Michael who is the spy?  | |
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Posted: 3/9/2008 3:30:45 PM | Hi Michael.
I remember that song.
I have to agree last weeks episode was great, I am also waiting anxiously
for this coming weeks show.
The part with Desmond and Penney, had my eyes tearing as well.
That was a great, I was realy getting worried that Desmond was going to suffer the fate of the other time-jumpers. I am so glad he was able to make contact with Penney.
I hope Sun is one of the six, so she can survive pregnancy and birth of her baby.
If she stays on the island she and the baby will die.
I am still not convinced Ben is a good guy , he is just too creepy and is character has done too many evil things.
Plus I still feel like Sayid is acting against his will, as a hitman. Though thinking about Penneys father, makes me wonder if the man Sayid's lover was working for, might be him.
And Ben may be trying to protect the island.
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Posted: 3/9/2008 4:41:06 PM | | I think Ben is maga creepy and I really don't think he's a good guy though he is pretty hard to hate. It always seems like maybe he may be good after all but I think it's just a decoy. I don't think it's Walt either though they did say he was special in some way. And yeah I guess it can't be Charlie but then again who says the visions Hurley has in the mental home are the truth? And another far fetched possibility could be that Charlie did die just not the way we thought by drowning. Maybe he is the spy and just died another way eventually. Haha I know that is not likely but it is also not like the writer's to be predictable either. | |
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Posted: 3/9/2008 6:52:16 PM | True... Alternate timelines may be emerging and Charlie dies in one but not another. Could be that Charlie is saved at the last moment by a T-Jumper and taken to another time conjection.
Still want kiss if it turns out Michael is the spy. It may be the only time I get something right. LOL | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 5:57:05 AM | Ok... Where's my kiss, ladies!
For my next guess... Who will die? I think it will be Claire. She's become less important to the story line now that we know that Kate takes Arron off island with her. That would answer why Kate has him.
Concerning Jin's gravestone. I saw four dates. Is that correct? The oldest being 2004! And he is still alive? I think that Jin and Sun are hidding and the headstone was placed long before they came back. For some reason they've been forced apart and it could be that Jin is working for Ben as well. Jin, too, has a past for violence and it might still be in force now. So to protect Sun, he's continued the idea that he died on in the crash to help this along. The comment about only being married for two months could be a ruse.
Now that we know Michael is on board, where is Walt? Is he the one pounding on the pipes? Hmmmm.
The crew is suffering "Cabin Fever"? Hmmmm... We all know that's a lie.
The final think I want to toss out. The show that is playing while Sun is dressing... does anyone know the people they show in it just before Sun turns off the TV? I may be crazy, but the woman looked like Penny. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 7:04:42 AM | | I wonder where Sun was packing up to go to when she went into labor. I think Jin is really dead, but I couldn't make out all the dates on his tombstone. Michael looked like he didn't really know Desmond and Siyad. Could he have been brain washed? I can't stand Ben (Captain Bunny Killer), he looks like a weasel. Kudos to the actor who plays him. He plays a slimeball so well. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 7:38:22 AM | | As usual this episode left more questions than it answered. If Jin dies before getting off the island or doesn't leave the island then who is the 6th person in the oceanic 6? In the podcast it was said that Aaron doesn't count so that still leaves the 6th spot open doesn't it? Also I don't think Claire will die yet in the next episode as she hasn't been in the spotlight lately and it would just be odd to do that. I think it will likely be one of the freighters. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 7:41:35 AM | It seems tha whole Jin flashfoward thing was actually a flashback. When he was in the toy store, thoe owner said it was the year of the dragon..that was a few years back already. Ti also looked as if jin died Sept,22 2004, the day Oceanic 815 went down. So I'm assuming this means he's out as a possibility for the Oceanic 6. So we have Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Jin, and...Aaron?
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Posted: 3/14/2008 7:51:46 AM | Michael looked like he didn't really know Desmond and Siyad.
I don't think Michael ever met Desmond. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 7:55:27 AM | | Yeah I agree, I don't recall desmond and micheal meeting either. Micheal had already left the island by the time desmond showed up | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 10:17:59 AM | No, but Michael DOES know Sayid and as we saw in the teaser for next week, Sayid get's rough with him. Sayid only knows Michael left the island and that he killed Anna Lusia and Hugo's girlfriend.
"Has anyone else shown up," asks Hugo to Sun.
"No," she replies.
"Good."
Wonder who he means. Hmmmm. Could it be.... SATAN! | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 11:54:31 AM | | The way this show is, it could be, lol. Maybe Hugo has a thing for Sun, and doesn't want competition. I think Sawyer is the last of the six. We'll find out, eventually. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 12:28:08 PM | | I wish Sawyer would be the last of the six that would be awesome. I used to be a Jater but am not a Skater lol. They said in the promos for the episode that just aired however that the final members of the oceanic 6 would be revealed and Sawyer wasn't one of them so there goes that one. It must be Jin and maybe he just died after getting off the island. Perhaps Sun's dad had him killed? | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 12:30:39 PM | The last of the six is in the coffin.
The scenes with Jin were in the past, and the scenes with Sun were in the future,
They do love to confuse us.
I was sitting there wondering why he was giving the Panda to a woman that had a baby boy, then realized they were screwing with us yet again. LOL
He was still working for the father back then, and the gift was for an associate of the fathers, grandson.
I think Michael was just pretending to not know Sayid, remember he is a spy. In the previews it seemed like he knew who they were. He has to play his alias, so the Captain doesnt know he is working for Ben. Also next weeks showed Ben saying, a man will do anything to protect his son. So Ben must have Walt being held somewhere, probably with the rest of his "Others" so Michael will spy for him.
***SMACK****- theres your kiss Michael
I didnt pick up on the show on tv, I will have to try to catch that next week, when they replay the show.
Are you all watching the repeats, they are helpful with the narations on the bottom.
It is a good reminder of past events, and helps to put some pieces together in this
Island puzzle.
I dont think Jin is dead, I think it is all part of the farce they are playing.
Penny's father staged all of the survivors deaths, and for some reason other than the oceanic six, the rest of them are going with the story.
I still think it is all Ben's doing, but I am still not convinced that Ben is good.
But I am starting to think maybe not good, but protecting the island, yes.
This man, (fogot his name, Penny's dad) wants the island to make himself richer.
And Ben doesnt want the world to know about the special island.
I definately do not think the other six is Juliet, Ben would never let her leave with Jack.
I still think it is Locke, and he was in the coffin.
This show is realy getting good again, just in time for the season to be over.
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Posted: 3/14/2008 1:06:24 PM | I was just thinking I wonder if Penny's dad ( I wish I could remember that guys name)
might have had someone on the island when Ben killed off all the people from the Darma group.
Or if he was the one incharge of the Darma initiative, and the island realy was his, to begin with.
That would explain why he knows about the island, and why he may be after Ben. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 5:28:41 PM | ok i just started watching lost half way through last season and i am totaly LOST literally...I was sad to see that jin died last night but what i dont get is who is micheal??
and also a few episodes back there was kate and at the end she had a baby amed arron? isnt that claires babies name?? but kate said to her lawyer ur not using my son im not putting him through that...and then at teh end it showed the baby he looked special needs?? maybe that si why teh lawyer wanted to show the kid to get compation from teh jury for her . | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 6:47:27 PM | What IF we could meld these two threads on LOST ( new season and smoke monster) so we aren't so lost between them ???
welcome to the LOST threads too Majestik...... enjoy but please do yourself a favour and go and watch the first three seasons. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 10:27:52 PM | Thank you for the kissy Summerbout.
Now... my response to what you've all said since I last posted.
I do believe that the flash of Jin was from his past and not the future. That would fit. He was only married two months and had no child then. SO that makes more since. But I'm a bit confused why Sun would cry about his death... Unless he dies on the island trying to get her off the island.
When it comes to reviewing an episode, I always check out things in t.v. spots, photos on desks, people that move in and out of the scene that seem to be there for no other reason than to stick out like a sore thumb. Especially people the characters interact with. For instance, the Panda Bear store manager may end up being someone down the line who will have some small (or large) influance. After the first years, I started doing this when it came to what was going on in the flash backs.
Also, there have been two false commericals used during some of the episodes. Those play a part in the story as well. They're like little Easter Eggs.
Yes... I think there's one more after this one. I don't remember, but that would seem right before they go off to make the next season.
Wentworth may actually be the head of the Darma Project as his company deals in all sorts of technologies. I would not be surprised to see him at least entangled in it's mysteries. But he would know where it was without having to "look" for it if that were the case and would have sent people there long before the Oceanic survivors came to be there.
Michael is one of the original survivors of the crash. He was allowed to leave the island with Walt, his son, after he delivered four of the other survivors to Ben. Michael is made out to be like Judas in the story line, but I believe he does what he does to protect his son.
Aaron is suppose to be some sort of specially gifted child, but not mentally handicapped. I think he looked that way because he was just waking up from his nap. A psychic told Claire that Aaron is going to do something important in the future. (Hint Hint... Future being the operative word here.)
Who's in the coffin? I'm thinking it's the 6th member of the Oceanic 6.
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Posted: 3/15/2008 8:00:10 AM | I think Jin is dead for a couple reasons. One, if he wasn't dead, why would Sun bother going to his grave if she knew he was still alive? Also, I think the date implies that he died in the crash, so that is part of the cover story and he must have died on the island somehow, probably while trying to help Sun get rescued. I think Sun was genuinely upset and if she knew he was still alive she would not have been so heartbroken. Also, while having nothing to do with the plot, the actor just got a DUI, and so far everyone who has gotten a DUI offset has died on the show, lol. Perhaps his death is the one they are touting for the next episode, although I still think Claire has to die because there is no other way she would allow Kate to take Aaron. I think the psychic told her she had to raise the baby herself rather than give it up for adoption, didn't he?
I think the other member of the Oceanic 6 is the person in the coffin, and I think it is Michael. That would explain why no one went to his funeral and why when Jack was asked if he was friend or family he replied "neither". But then where is Walt? They both took off in the boat together...but I assume that somewhere out of sight of everyone they were intercepted and Walt was taken from him and he was told to spy on the freighter in exchange for keeping Walt safe. Also, while I could be wrong, I thought Vincent was on the boat with Walt and Michael...then he showed back up with the arm in his mouth and Charlotte's GPS thing on his collar. But I guess I don't remember whether they took the dog or not...I just assume so since it is Walt's dog.
Desmond and Michael never met, but Sayid and Michael definitely recognized each other. Michael was petrified that Sayid was going to blow his cover but Sayid went along with it. I think it was Michael who opened the door and also the one who was banging on the pipes and slipped the note in. I really don't think Walt is on the boat because Ben would not be able to control Michael if that was the case.
One thing that confuses me is the black box from Flight 815. The captain, who we are not to trust, made it seem as though Widmore obtained the box and that was how he found the island. I assumed all this time that Ben somehow staged the wreckage to keep people from looking for the plane, but if he went through all the trouble to stage the wreckage somewhere away from the island, complete with 324 bodies, he would have altered the flight data recorder as well. So is Ben the one who staged the wreckage or did Widmore really get the original black box somehow and then he staged the wreckage to keep people away from the island?
I think we have a two hour (possibly in two parts) finale left...I know at the end of last season they had planned on doing like 16 episodes with no interruptions, which is why it began airing so late, but then we had the writer's strike...will they finish the rest of the episodes before summer or will this be it? | |
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Posted: 3/15/2008 3:19:30 PM | So I have been pondering the Jack not wanting to visit Kate and Aaron thing.
Did I miss something the other season in a flashback or just make this up in my head? ( cuz it works heheheheh) Isn't Claire Jack's half sister since Jack's dad had an affair????? Perhaps he finds this out in the future and then can't accept seeing Aaron as he's a reminder of his father's infidelity?? | |
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Posted: 3/15/2008 3:43:38 PM | Yes, I'd taken this into account as to the fact that Claire is Jack's half sister. And I agree that he may not find that out until after he returns from the island. Of course, that could be just a side story that was the producers love to toss out just to mess with our heads!
But I still think Claire dies and that's the only reason Kate gets the child. I also think Jin dies. But it'll happen sometime next year.
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Posted: 3/17/2008 6:44:50 AM | I was convinced Jin was alive and had faked his death for some reason and that both Jin and Sun's stories were flash forwards. A work colleague is convinced Jin's story was a flashback. We made a bet with each other as to who was right but now having read the various comments here, I'm doubting myself! I know the writers/producers do like to confuse us viewers, but surely there is more mystery to be had over why Jin would fake his death, rather than have it transpire that he did die before he got off the island? Unless of course it was a flashback which contained a major clue (which I missed - as usual) and the relevance will become clear in the future.... It's just all too confusing. I guess it could just as easily be either scenario!
Edit - dammit, the last year of the dragon was 2000 so it's looking more likely to have been a flashback. Unless of course it was a way, way into the future flashforward?! | |
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Posted: 3/17/2008 1:20:16 PM | | OKay so from what I've been reading on some Lost sites, I believe the 6th person in the Oceanic 6 is Micheal. I think Jin dies before they get off the island probably saving Sun and Micheal is the only other person who makes sense also being in the coffin aside from Ben. What do you think? It would make sense in that Jack would say he wasn't friend or family and also that no one would go see him. Also Why Kate wouldn't want to go to the funeral. Maybe he kills Claire and this is why she gets Aaron which would reinforce why she would have said that. | |
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Posted: 3/17/2008 9:41:51 PM | I'll give you that, Sass829. But if that's the case, why wouldn't Walt be there to view his father... and for that matter, his ex-wife might come to see him to pay her respects. I don't think Michael is in the coffin, but time will tell.
There's other people Kate would not want to go see, not just Michael. Besides... I think she would understand the lengths a person would go to just to save someone. She killed her step-father just to save her mother from him. | |
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