| Yes means No?
Posted: 2/2/2008 9:02:43 PM | ^ Pantaloons is one of the many words that I think are fun to say that do not get used enough in polite society. Finding uses for these words is important-- so why I figure why use a valuable opportunity to advertise it as a safe words to a bunch of people online?
I'm always trying to start weird new trends that make sense in my head and no place else... | |
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| Yes means No?
Posted: 2/2/2008 9:15:20 PM | | I agree with Oprah that anyone who doesn't take no for an answer is trying to contol u | |
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| Yes means No?
Posted: 2/2/2008 9:15:50 PM | No means no.
If someone means yes when they mean no (or vice versa)... Then they're playing games. If you like games then Good Luck... But personally I don't have time for such games and ambiguity.
Say what you mean and mean what you say... I say!  | |
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Posted: 2/2/2008 11:38:29 PM | Oprah....don't listen to her....she's rich, She will say anything for money......she knows you lot can't think for yourselves.
If i tell ya to do something....you will do it ya naughty girl....do as ya told for once
If ya say no its cause ya know i don't want it. Whos in charge....i am remember.......
If i tell ya to say yes ,ya do it won't ya.........what was that....i heard that......i spank ya if ya carry on......ya a real bad girl....i'm getting frustrated er....you better be listening or i lock ya in the bedroom.........the dogs there already.....i knew ya say yes.
Get a sense of humor.
Firm but fair | |
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Posted: 2/4/2008 10:27:35 PM | I have had experiences where a gal has said "no" and I left it at that and ended up with someone else.
Then feedback I got said she was upset that I went with the other gal. When I said she'd said no I was told that she said she really didn't mean it.
All I can say ladies is that if you mean yes say yes unless you want to be passed by. Rule if thumb proves to be true. If one wants to say no, five will say yes...LOL
Does the old saying, "you snooze you lose," mean anything in this picture? | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 12:34:33 AM | and WHO is being fair if "no" means "maybe" or even "try harder"???? The woman is being fair to the man????? NOT!!!!!! The man is being fair to the woman???? "NOT EVEN!!!!!"
if someone is into playing head games with MY head, they can make a quick exit out the nearest door, I don't care if it's his or mine~ or I'll make it easier and I'll disappear back behind the Wall myself, where he won't be able to have access again~ Players are not welcome in my head, neither are casual multi-daters.
"no" should mean "no", "yes" should be clear as a bell what it means, and "maybe" means........ let's consider taking this thing slower~
and there's always the "did I say you could stop" thing too, you know! Sweeeeeeet!
Happy happy to y'all  | |
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| Yes means No?
Posted: 2/6/2008 7:30:16 AM |
What is it about the word 'coy' that you don't understand?
Being "coy" is for children...or immature adults.
There's too much at stake when dealing w/ an adult in a sexual situation.
A woman that doesn't give clear and unambiguous signals that she is sexually-attracted to a man or that she wants to have sex w/ him is asking for trouble at some point in the future.
A man that proceeds w/ a sexual encounter when he's not SURE that is what is desired by his is looking at a potential rape charge.
Unless I'm sure that we are BOTH in the mood and desiring sex, I have no interest in pursuing that course of action w/ a woman.
Too many headaches...and I'm too old for games. | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 8:25:54 AM | Yes, no, yes, yes, no, no.
I get it, binary code. | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 8:46:55 AM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Omg...... sides hurting.... absolutely hillarious!!!! Thanks OutMind... I needed that!! | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 9:35:12 AM | | No means no, yes means yes. I think it's pretty clear. | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 11:26:47 AM | | I would never assume, ever, that NO means yes. That's just asking for trouble. | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 12:10:23 PM | | to me NO means NO.. & YES means YES.. have they changed the dictionary on these 2 words and I don't know about it???.. lol | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 12:31:48 PM | "No" can mean one of two things:
1) "No." Period. End of discussion. This means you. Get it?!
2) "Yes"... but only because I'm a nut-case!
If you are smart, you will take #2 as no and not get involved, LOL!
Some people watch too many episodes of Love And Order, LOL! | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 1:36:35 PM | Yes, no means no, and I'd take it that way across the board to avoid any confusion. Any girl who says no when she means yes should learn the hard way not to play games. Make her put her money where her mouth is...walk away and forget about her.
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Agreeed Betty.
BUT
When the womens trash rags start printing dating advice such as "don't'say yes the first time or he wont respect you" IE Say no when you mean yes, do you write in complaining and putting in what youve just put on the board. | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 1:44:41 PM |
Agreeed Betty.
BUT
When the womens trash rags start printing dating advice such as "don't'say yes the first time or he wont respect you" IE Say no when you mean yes, do you write in complaining and putting in what youve just put on the board.
There's no question mark on that, is it a question? And if so is it for me or for everyone in general?
I don't read Cosmo and that kind of thing, so I don't know what they print - I read mostly women's fitness mags if I read any at all.
If it's about sex, then it's true - but for me it's not in that context. If I like a guy, I don't sleep with him right away because I don't want to until I know him long enough to get to that point....I like to know who I'm dealing with. But I don't say no, I say not yet, not now, or tell him when I'm ready he'll know it. I tend to be pretty direct and literal tho. I am sure some women say no and mean something like that.
My original post was more about a woman saying yes or no to a guy who's showing a woman interest/asking her for a phone number or a date initially. | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 4:14:10 PM |
Does "no" ever mean "yes"?
If I answered this with a no, how would you know I didn't mean yes? | |
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Posted: 2/6/2008 5:41:43 PM |
"No" can mean one of two things:
2) "Yes"... but only because I'm a nut-case!
Add "potential felon" to that, and that's just about right.
Not to single out the above poster at all, but dudes have gone to trial for rape for allowing themselves to be drawn into a "No" = "Yes" mind-reading episode. It's a huge price to pay if you're wrong about that.
I'll give you an example:
Man and woman go on date, and have a little to drink. They've known each other for a couple of weeks. Neither drinks that much on the date. Man and woman make out after the date. Man begins undressing the woman and make-out session intensifies. Man begins pulling down woman's panties. She whispers "No" and smiles coyly. Man reads her "body language" and decides that her "no" means "maybe" or "yes" . Man decides to "take it a little slower" in case she is serious about the "No". The woman continues responding to the guy's attentions. Man works his way back to the panties. The man fondles her. The woman doesn't realize that the man already has his penis out and is hard. The man penetrates her. She starts to feel uncomfortable AFTER he's inside her, but is confused--she liked the making out until he penetrated her. The woman doesn't say anything and lays there because of her mixed emotions. The man finishes; rolls over and goes to sleep. The woman feels more and more horrible by the minute--remembering that she did say "No" to him even though she was still embracing him and kissing/responding. By the time the guy gets up to go home the next morning, the woman feels like the sex was a mistake and maybe was a rape. It ends with the cops coming to the guy's workplace 3 days later to question him.......You get the picture. This shít happens ALL THE TIME.
Some of you are acting like this "No" -"yes" crap is cute. It's not.  Any guy who tries to finesse a woman out of a "No" is a potential criminal (unless both partners worked out a set of "code words" for role-playing far in advance.) Any woman who says "No" when she really wants to be finessed into sex is mentally disturbed. That's the reality. Guys go to trial for that shít, and women end up as rape victims.
Don't get caught up in confusion----No means No. | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 3:57:52 AM | | I was playin between a girls legs once, and she kept telling me no (i had already had sex with her before and knew she liked me etc.), but squeezed her legs together so I couldn't take my hand away, and had her hand over mine to keep it there. I said, I'll move my hand if you don't want it there, then she said no again.... Confused I was. There were people crashed out on the floor, and I think she didn't want to be heard squeaking, or whatever noises she makes when her happy flappy is being flipped. So, she wanted it, but didn't want it. I ended up stopping btw. | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 7:24:43 AM | Agreeed Betty.
BUT
When the womens trash rags start printing dating advice such as "don't'say yes the first time or he wont respect you" IE Say no when you mean yes, do you write in complaining and putting in what youve just put on the board.
There's no question mark on that, is it a question? And if so is it for me or for everyone in general?
I don't read Cosmo and that kind of thing, so I don't know what they print - I read mostly women's fitness mags if I read any at all.
I'm pretty sure that it was a question (TWO questions, really), directed generally:
1) Do you even ACKNOWLEDGE that the whole "yes means no, no means maybe" dichotomy is troublesome, especially for men?; and,
2) If you DO acknowledge it, with how wide an audience do you register your opinions/thoughts? Even one letter to the editor is seen by many more people than PoF posts, after all.
Arlo :roll: | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 9:00:18 AM | in a sexual sense... you better take no as no. If you start groping her and she says no... stop there and do not grope anymore.This generally means she does not think of you in that way. Or that she is not ready yet. Some females do get a guy hot and bothered and when the guy starts reacting.... starts streaming no. The means you stop, and leave her alone. (personally with these head games, I would walk away and never talk to her again).
If you are engaging in sex... and she is on top. Then she starts screaming no. remove your hands. If she keeps going.... it is all on her.
Just to be safe for a later date, we all know women are nuts. When a woman says no... take it as no. You could be in handcuffs.. she riding away, You about to get that nut. She says no... toss your hips and throw her on the floor. When she starts cursing and yelling.... tell her "you said no" | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 9:07:53 AM | I don't think there should be any confusion, and yes I totally see where men are coming from with the "yes"/"no" thing.
I think when women say no, men should give a "no" reaction and act accordingly. If they meant yes, then they should be taught by men to start to re-think their strategy. If someone walks away from them or they don't get laid because of it, then they sort of asked for it.
Always take no as no, and make women own what they say. Simple to me, really. | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 9:14:40 AM |
I think when women say no, men should give a "no" reaction and act accordingly. If they meant yes, then they should be taught by men to start to re-think their strategy. If someone walks away from them or they don't get laid because of it, then they sort of asked for it.
I agree with ya! But, I'm not looking forward to growing old-n-grey waiting for my students to learn their lesson!
Arlo | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 6:27:48 PM |
Unless I'm sure that we are BOTH in the mood and desiring sex, I have no interest in pursuing that course of action w/ a woman.
Too many headaches...and I'm too old for games.
For once we agree on something 100% | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 6:38:36 PM | | I think it would be a game women play. I think they just want to know how bad they can drive a man crazy by saying No when they really wanted to say Yes!! | |
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Posted: 2/8/2008 12:29:19 AM | I have found that no has at least 3 meanings.
1. no never
2. no not yet
3. no not here | |
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