| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/2/2008 3:08:46 PM |
Time to elect a mouse.. they are the only ones who will serve the interests of us mice.
That mouse is a Bolshevik, lock him up!
Excellent reference btw! I wonder if anyone else recognized the source? Where is a man like old Tommy D. when we need him now? | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/2/2008 3:46:23 PM | People have a responsibility to educate themselves on who is running in their area - and finding out who is running on the facts that are most important to them. Again - sitting in a chair and btching on forums - well - thats just lazy.
People just putting X's for the hell of it worries me too - hopefully most people are smart enough to do some research on the net on the parties - obviously we all here have computers.
And yes I did state earlier in this forum about voting different than our family in 90 years - BECAUSE I DID MY RESEARCH and because I found out who was running in my area that is running on what I am most concerned with - rental increases. I am not just sitting around btching and complaining - I actually am going to do something about it. I am going to vote where I think is best - I am using my right given to me - and you should be damn lucky you live in a country where you have that right. | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/2/2008 5:38:17 PM | | Me personally, I've been a conservative all my life but I'm actually at a point where I dislike Stelmach so much I may actually vote Liberal just to get him out. I feel like such a sell out, but seriously I've never been so embarrassed at a party. Pretty much every policy he's done in my opinion has bombed ie raising the oil royalties ( sorry my industry is tied the oil field and I've felt the pinch) . And things he should have looked he ignored, (housing). I don't know am I a sell out, I kind of feel like it. On the other hand Taft looks like a crook to me. Wadda do ? | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 6:51:01 AM | Dont forget to vote.
make your voices be heard take the time out of your day and VOTE.
It is your DUTY to vote and remember there are MEN and WOMEN dying to keep us safe, and many who have died before to give us the lives we have today. Honour them....... GO VOTE! | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 7:10:52 AM |
Time for change, if Cuba can take on change so can alberta.
Um, you did see that it was Castro's brother that was appointed, right? Terrible analogy if what you are looking for is real change.
Personally I find American style rhetoric quite unpalatable. I vote because it's important, not because there men and women dying to keep me safe. They are dying to assuage GW Bush's blood and oil thirst. | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 8:47:18 AM |
Personally I find American style rhetoric quite unpalatable. I vote because it's important, not because there men and women dying to keep me safe. They are dying to assuage GW Bush's blood and oil thirst.
I was trying to think of a way to put this ... thanks!
GO VOTE!!!!! | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:26:33 AM | I was doing some work in the heart of "Conservative Country". My client was an older lady, late 50's, lived her all her life. Her house (home business) has the Alberta Flag flying out front. She's hard core Westerner...a classic example of a true Albertan
I asked her, are you going to vote, and she looked at me and said "you bet I am, I can't stand that Stelmach guy".
Stelmach will win, but when you're "core" vote doesn't like you, man you really REALLY have some problems on the horizon. | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 12:21:33 PM | I just got back from voting... turnout so far at our polling station has been slow but steady.
One news headline this morning made me so g**damn angry there was very little that would keep me from getting out to vote and I hope anyone reading this will be similarly spurred on to act.
At the University of Alberta hospital they are performing - and I can't believe I am saying this - medicine in triage tents. That's right...it was on CTV NewsNet. In this supposedly oil revenue rich (who is getting rich?) province, where health care has been deliberately gutted over the last decade and a half to create the appearance of a failing system to help initiate the creation of a user-pay system (part of the long-term agenda of a laissez-faire neo-conservative, anti-public health philosophy) they are re-creating M*A*S*H* outside our province's flagship medical hospital because they don't have enough beds inside or enough nurses.
How many of you know technicians, nurses, or others in the medical field that were cut back and laid off in the 90's thanks to the "Alberta Advantage?"
http://www.ctvedmonton.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20080302/EDM_emergency_tent_030208/20080302/?hub=EdmontonHome
University hospital to set up emergency triage tent
Sonia Sunger, Updated: Sun Mar. 02 2008
CTV.ca News Staff
A lack of space in the University of Alberta Hospital emergency room means some young emergency patients will be treated in a triage tent set up outside the hospital by the end of the week.
Capital Health made the decision to set up the tent last week, after a recent surge of patients created major wait times in the emergency room.
On Sunday afternoon 30 patients were waiting for a bed.
Capital Health bought the tent last year to deal with any flu pandemic that could hit the capital region.
The tent will be set up outside the hospital this week, to primarily treat children who need emergency care.
People visiting the hospital on Sunday had opposing views about the temporary emergency room expansion.
"I wouldn't want my child treated in a tent," said Sheliah Yetman.
"I think it's an awesome idea, as long as they can make sure that it's sanitary and warm," said Chris Morrison.
Capital Health assures the tent will be safe and warm and will function as a normal emergency room.
Capital Health spokesperson, Steve Buick, says a lack of nurses and capacity, as well as a population boom in children, have all been driving forces behind the decision to put up the tent.
Buick adds these problems coincide with cold and flu season.
"We're just about through the winter now, but for the next few weeks things are going to remain very tough," said Buick.
The large emergency tent is expected to be up and running by Wednesday or Thursday.
Capital Health says the tent is just a temporary solution and will only be used for a few weeks.
In the long term Capital Health plans to recruit more nurses internationally and expand their facilities.
With files from Bill Fortier
If you haven't voted yet, move yer arse! | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 1:15:50 PM | SHAME ON ALBERTA
SHAME ON CANADA
This is a pathetic use of our medical dollars.
Fix the problems, stop using bandages to cover up things.
Remove the white boys club in the medical lisencing....... there are thousands of foeign trained drs and nurses, medical techs who would love to be doing what they were trained....... only problem is they are the wrong colour.
lets fix this | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 1:43:02 PM |
At the University of Alberta hospital they are performing - and I can't believe I am saying this - medicine in triage tents. Didn't ya see it on TV yesterday? Awfully nice tents.
Yeah, I had to shake my head when I saw what this oilrich province is giving it's citizens for medical services. Tents at one of the provinces #1 medical facilities, in Winter. Now THERE'S some bragging rights.
And yeah, the polls were kinda quiet, but still a fairly steady flow on a Monday, with so-so roads, inclement weather, who knows? | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 5:58:29 PM | they are re-creating M*A*S*H*
Just got to look at how this will help save heath care costs.
In stead of building new hospitals.
When the tents are not needed in Edmonton they can move them to Calgary or where ever they need them.
Would that be cheaper than building new hospitals all over Alberta again?
3 reasons Smiling Eddie did not get my vote.
1)We did have a 20 bed Hospital in my town. If it was not for that hospital at that time. My dad would have died twice. He would not have made it to Lethbridge.
Now that hospital is just a clinic, with long term care.
2) Highway #4, 10 years after it was started, This year they are finnishing the last 6 K's The twinning of it. It was a few millions dollars cheaper to go to the East of Milk River, Than to the west. Smiling Eddie was transportaion minister at that time.
3) Even suggestion getting rid of Alberta Heath Care Priemimes (SP) | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 9:04:49 PM | Very (record) poor voter turnout, bad procedure at many polling stations, failure of the opposition to capitalize on the environmental issues and the Royalty Review panel results has spelled a Tory majority...again...
The opposition in this province needs to stop bickering with each other like spoiled brats, compromise policy and unite to provide real change in this province or they will continue to fight for the crumbs. There will otherwise be no serious democratic and electoral reform or real policy change.
And then there is Brian Mason who decided to leap on a hand grenade before the voting got underway *boggle*
10 gained seats, +10% in the popular vote for the PC's...
Taft and Mason need to make way for better leaders. | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 9:44:50 PM | The Alberta PC's have did what the Federal PC's have did. They've moved to the centre of the political spectrum. The Alberta PC's are pretty close to being "liberals". They flash around money for art stuff, talk about building high speed rail & "stick it" to the oil companies (in the minds of citizens). It's much like how Harper has moved away from the right into the centre in Ottawa trying to appease Quebec & Ontario.
Thing with the Liberals is on paper they're not much different than the PC's. They have two problems:
1. The name Liberal. While the Alberta Liberals are more right wing than the Federal Liberals, the name is the same. You say the word Liberal in some parts of this province & people's hair stands on the edge. They really need to distance themselves from Dion & the ass clowns in Ottawa...older people vote and older people have long memories & are often stubborn.
2. Kevin Daft....err Taft. As uninspiring as Ed Stelmach only he's more annoying (is that possible). Taft should quit and Dave Taylor (MLA in my riding) should take over. Taylor is balanced and comes with nearly 20 years of radio experience, half of it as a talk show host on QR77 in Calgary. He's a good speaker, he's intelligent & he listens to people. | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/3/2008 10:52:59 PM | O.K. Time to shamefully admit I did not vote. In my riding there just wasn't anybody I could support. Last time around there was an independant who garnered 16 votes. One of which was mine. This time...............nobody. I realize that it is our democratic obligation to get involved in the process but how does one pick the least of several evils.
Screw it. I have always believed, now more than ever that the best political situation is that of a benelovant dictator. As long as he is me. | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/4/2008 3:13:07 AM | I am not a PC supporter by any means but in defense of ED he has not been in power long enough to make all the changes we are requesting. The primary cause of everything was made under Ralphs reign. should i remind how Ralph had a grade 9 education, the same man that would get drunk and go berate the homeless, yet the people continued to vote him in.
I understand allot of people are hurting from inaction from the government but take some responsibility you voted them in, you must suffer the consequences for your actions! | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/4/2008 3:54:21 AM | | Wow...the election totally didn't turn out the way I expected. Sure, I thought the "Conservatives" would win again (conservatives in quotes, they are actually liberals in my mind), but no seats for the Wildrose Alliance? Huge majority for Stelmach, the most uninspiring leader since Stephan Dion? Lol. Crazy...Alberta voters like to be bought with their own money, that's much is clear. There goes another 4 years of surpluses that will just get blown on nonsense, rather than being saved up for our future. | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/4/2008 6:21:01 AM | Voter apathy.
I think a lot of people didn't like the choices, so didn't make one.
Personally I actually wanted a change, so I went and voted. Now if only more people had chosen to vote as I did! LOL
I still think people are blaming Ed for what Ralph did. However as an article I read last week pointed out, Ed was part of Ralph's cabinet for over 12 years, so he isn't blameless.
Meh, it's over for awhile. Let us see how many of those $$promises the tories will keep. | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/4/2008 8:57:31 AM | well.. I see the Cats got in.. as was expected. Poor mice! ( and no.. I doubt many know or remember the story of Mouseland.. I don't think it was too big in Alberta.. haha Ya think eh?)
It will be interesting, to say the least, what Eddie does now.. with his vast majority and only so many cabinet posts available. Lottsa 'debts' gotta be repaid there. Lots of inner house promises made.
IMHO.. it should be law in Canada that one has to vote in Federal/Provincial elections. Like is done in Australia. Oh and I know that some will say.. people will not THINK when they choose.. just mark an x anywhere to avoid a fine or whatever., thus mucking up the 'real' outcome. Yes.. probably some will.. but that % will not be anywhere near as high as say.. 60% of eligable voters who do not friggin' vote!! Politicians would most likely shake in their shiney shoes IF they thought everyone had to vote! OMG.. they might even get a 'true' outcome! They might actually have 'the people' telling them what to do!! Perish that thought!!! You can bet your boots that they count on the fact of low voter turnout. Big time! Gives them the go ahead and knowledge that they can do what they want. Might as well have a dictatorship .. apathy gives it to them anyways!
hops off soapbox and wanders away in disgust at the apathy of eligable voters ...
(wish they had spell check on here! sorry.. is it ible or able?? lol | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/4/2008 11:19:37 AM |
well.. I see the Cats got in.. as was expected. Poor mice! ( and no.. I doubt many know or remember the story of Mouseland.. I don't think it was too big in Alberta.. haha Ya think eh?)
Heh. Well if you saw my Bolshevik comment in post 76, you know at least some of us have heard the story of Mouseland before and sad to say we are still living in it right now.
I think the ignorance of the political history of this province is so rampant, along with the voter apathy that the majority of the electorate are easily led by the nose and that is a real tragedy.
This is funny...the German system has us beat as far as democracy goes. Their popular vote ensures that there is representation for parties that get enough of a percentage of votes to merit party status and seats in the state house to represent a true picture of the populations views rather than such a skewed picture as presented by our riding system and worse still the currently highly unbalanced picture provided by the electoral boundaries and rural ridings which still are disproportionate to the urban and one of the primary reasons we see a Conservative Majority.
I felt actual nausea as Stelmach and other Conservative boosters had the unmitigated gall to say "the people have spoken" or "Albertans have made a choice" which was clearly nothing but a complete baldfaced lie. Less than half of the people got off their ass to vote...and you were lucky they voted for you. In some ridings there might have been less than that. How is that representative of the will of the people?
It is said that the people get the government they deserve... yet I cannot help but feel that those on the fringe didn't vote for this and will be run between the gears as usual...the poor, the homeless, students, the elderly, single parents or the working poor, the disabled, people on fixed incomes...utility bills will continue to rise, our resources will continue to go out the door to the lowest bidder, arts and education and medicine will continue to receive short shrift or be pushed into the private sector, the environment will continue to get run roughshod over and that's business as usual for the Alberta advantage. And pork barrelling will continue and the "bodies that are buried" by 40 years of PC corruption will continue to pile up behind the scenes...because as any mouse knows, when you get a pile of cats in a room together for that long, they can't help but go bad.
I'm watching from the wetland housing the last known breeding pair of Alberta ND's (LOL) | |
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| Alberta - heading for election - what is your opinion?
Posted: 3/4/2008 11:56:37 AM | I'm with tarnished up there. I too made the choice not to vote. In my area, I didn't hear much from those running...only got two information pamphlet's..and one of them I didn't get until I got home at 7:30 last night! And what I had heard prior to that didn't give me any kind of motivation.
So, I chose not to vote. Choosing the lesser of 2 evils is not the way to make a decision. I will vote if I feel that someone is going to listen to the needs of the community and try to make a difference. Until that day happens, I won't vote. You can call it laziness or whatever, but I know I'm not alone in feeling that voting for the sake of voting is ridiculous. | |
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