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Posted: 2/24/2008 2:37:35 PM |  WOW Maybe not all men total believe in foreplay with a woman. But this is one man that does believe in foreplay with a Special Woman before having the intimacy with that Special Woman. That i would be dating for a long while. I myself like to get to know the woman by going out with her and dancing with her as well as spending time with her. Just getting to know each other Then discuss with her about the foreplay if the subject come up. There are some men that just want to take a woman to bed to have intimacy with her after a date or few dates. Well that ok as long as you both agre to it. But that not for me. I wait for the body sign as well as small talk with the one I am going with as well. Then I feel it will just happen if the woman respect me and feels the same way.I would rather wait for right time and knowing the person and if we click then it will be great. I enjoy the fore play with a woman as well as she will enjoy it with me at the time. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 10:45:12 AM | | Well, I read this trying to go to your profile and I came upon the foreplay issue. The answer to your question is simple. I have been studying a lot on this subject and have found most men are not in tune with the woman sexually. They don't take the time to read the woman and understand what it is she likes. They are too simple minded and need someone to tell them yes that is it and no that don't work...With this said when a woman groans per say they think its good. Most of the men are there rally for their own gratification and believe the woman are satisfied. The problem with woman is they have not been properly satisfied because of being with these type of men, and they really don't know what they are missing... Most woman I have interviewed have never had a g-spot orgasm, a lot have never had an orgasm during intercourse. It is surpeising how many woman don't know where their g-spot is. In my defence here as a man I have taken the time to appreciate the female anatomy and understand how to read a woman in bed. I use this to my advantage and have satisfied woman like they have never imagined... Yes you are right foreplay is a key element to the arousal of your woman and by ignoring her g-spot you will fail at having her look at you as a sex god. Guys take note here, foreplay will arouse but the ultimate pleasure for her is the g-spot over and over again.... Just because she says she can't take anymore why stop? she will have more orgasms and some will actually pass out then you know you have totally satisfied her! | |
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Nergal
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Joined: 4/29/2007
Msg: 153 | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 11:29:31 AM | | No you are missing the point .. foreplay starts in the mind .. feed the mind and the clit is yours ... | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 8:18:14 PM | Tell you what!
I know you are correct there with sex being 90% in the mind.
A womans mind is a wonderful thing. They do use both sides of their brain.
What my point was is that most men don't take the time to appreciate the mental and emotional aspect of a woman and misjudge what they see therefore leaving a woman sexually deprived. Believe me. I am writing a book about my research and would hope that men would read it more so than women. Have a great night! | |
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Joined: 1/24/2008
Msg: 155 | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 9:32:34 PM | | I really hope you guys don't talk like this on a date. (rolling eyes). Yeah, I know this is a public forum but are you that hard up for sex? | |
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Joined: 3/16/2005
Msg: 156 | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 9:56:03 PM | | Cowboy is one hundred percent correct. And also, I do not know what your experience with men has been, but it does not sound good. Do not lump us all together. I have learned virtually everything I know about sex from listening to my ladies and asking questions. My ex-fiance and I spent entire nights experimenting until I knew how to do things to her that made her black out and vice versa. I have had the bleeding scratches on my back, the fingernail scars in my scalp, the bite marks on my shoulders and neck and the ripped-out hair to prove it. | |
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custis
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Joined: 3/16/2005
Msg: 157 | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 10:00:47 PM | "I really hope you guys don't talk like this on a date. (rolling eyes). Yeah, I know this is a public forum but are you that hard up for sex?"
@@ Another holier-than-thou trying to show the ladies how noble he is. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 10:31:27 PM | | well errr i love foreplay usually its the women who want to start having sex,left up to me we would be licking,touching,sucking for a good hour or so | |
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Posted: 3/3/2008 12:43:34 PM | | Yeah foreplay is great. However I find it quite boreing if it goes on to long. I like to cum more than once in a session so to speak. Before during and after. Multiple is cool and if you know what you want and when, don't let him get in to early. | |
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Joined: 2/23/2008
Msg: 160 | |
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Posted: 3/6/2008 12:56:54 PM | | i agree, foreplay does somewhat start with the mind. i love to be very verbal, and love my man to be very verbal as well. that means letting me know what u r going to do to me, how ur going to do it, i want details....that makes the foreplay soooooo much more better when talk is very explicit, and that works both ways as well, what i want i give in return, hot talking along with great foreplay can be the trick in most instances. hot talk def get the women wet, and does stimulate their clit in a sense, that is if the talk is real hot. same with a man, he wants to hear what a woman wants to do to him, how she is going to do it, how its gonna feel etc. you gotta keep it interesting, and in turn everything will fall into play...hot talk stimulates the brain which in turn stimulates other things with our body.... | |
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Posted: 7/18/2008 1:30:21 PM | Cowboy,
You're a pisser. You have nailed everythig on the head. (No pun intended) I LMAF reading all of these replies.
Some of the women (Mabe men) don't get it. Fricking sex isn't the only thing in a relationship. (It's really nice). If you don't get along or have that feeling then you don't.
I feel like a male slut after my last relationship. I know that is hard for a man to say. I don't like several night stands and then getting dumped due to personal issues on her part. FTFF. (Frick The Fricken Frickers) That's a clean way of saying it.
It's hard to fingd a LTR on these sites.
Billy Idol..LOL | |
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Posted: 7/18/2008 1:38:16 PM | | I love to get all sweaty and wiggly and out of breath during a nice long hot foreplay session that practically makes me beg for 'it',,,,,,but damn man, most men that ive been with think a lil bit of kissing and a quick boob grope is gonna make me all hot n ready. Uh,,,,,,,,,,no. lol | |
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Posted: 7/18/2008 3:19:11 PM | [So, please tell me the tricks for picking these guys out of a crowd....I would love to be left weak at the knees and forget my own name. ]
They are very few and far between! Almost as elusive as unicorns even..lol
But the good news is...they do exist. I thank my lucky stars every night! | |
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Posted: 7/18/2008 4:05:26 PM | | Yikes, I am 43 and was with the same man for 16 years. Until I was 42 and divorced did I FINALLY learn what an orgasism was. Thanks to a very talented man that became a friend with benifits did I realize what I had been missing. Maybe you just have an issue with "letting go" Part of me is angry with myself for holding on to so much control and the other part is greatful that I will not end my life without having had this experience. Hope you find your way. have you tried women???? Just wondering. | |
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Posted: 7/18/2008 4:09:54 PM | If men would tap into this concept of foreplay, they would have much more gratifying sex!!!! AMEN....
I find most men just dont want to spend the time, specially if they have nothin to lose , other than their 'load'  | |
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Posted: 7/18/2008 4:27:14 PM | I want to thank Cowboy and all other men out there that spend time on a womans body.
I have only recently become familiar with the entire orgasim issue. I thought all night sex or sex that lasted longer than 30 min was something that only happened in movies. I only found" my place" by accident but my friends with benifits was wise enough to actually listen to me instead of going with what works on "most women".
My problem now is that we started out as friends with benifits and now I am attached to the great sex but want to actually had a meal with this guy. I came to POF because ....well I am not sure but I guess I want something more but not much more. I like my freedom and want to find someone like him but that I can spend time with.
This guy has the foreplay down to an art form and it is very difficult to give this up.
I am not a perfect "pretty" girl but this guy made me feel like I was the most beautiful most senuous woman to bless his pressence. For any man out there that want more from their sexual experience my best advise it to listen to the one you are with. I only had to say it once that talking dirty was no my thing. He never said another dirty comment to me again. I loved this forum and I am glad it is here. Wish Cowboy was the rule not the exception. Problem is you actually have to sleep with someone to find this stuff out. It just feels wrong to go about it this way. The bigger problem is that most men actually talk like Cowboy but when it comes down to it aren't like that at all.
Good luck with all the fishermen and women out there. | |
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Posted: 7/18/2008 9:13:04 PM | First off- coyboy- thank you for restoring my faith in my own kind!
Ok, I admit I only made it through the first page before I hadda reply.
Ill have you know, this is actually ( but admittidly, very rarely) an issue that a man can experience as well! VERY long story that Ill try to summerize, but I happened to fall head over heals with a sexually disfunctional woman. To this day, the most beautiful woman I have EVER laid eyes on. Unfortunately, her idea of sex was to down a few(or more) pints of yeager, get naked, get on her hands and knees and tell me she " needed a penis"
No eye contact, no kissing, no carressing , did I say no KISSING?!? Like going from 0 to 60 in 1 second flat! HUGE disappointment.
I realized that this obviously worked on MANY men before me, as it was all she knew and I know she was not"inexperienced"...Sad if you ask me.
The difference is, as a guy, you cant hide your disappointment..you cant go ahead and be disappointed later.. Dont matter how fine she is, if foreplay is REALLY important to a man, its pretty damn obvious.
I honestly believe most men arent "wired" to require, much less appreciate forplay. Perhaps it goes back to having grab that ass as quick as you could, before the alpha caveman came back and kicked yer butt , or that sabertooth ate you both..who knows?
But there are a few of us that value foreplay as much for you women as we do for ourselves! Peace! | |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 2:04:11 AM | I gotta agree with Cowboy and eazk on this one....if you're not getting enough foreplay then you're probably not putting forth enough effort, or taking responsibility for your own pleasure (which would then, ultimately, result in increased pleasure for him as well). I haven't had a problem with getting enough foreplay since I was married, and that was so many years ago I can barely remember anything else about it...but I do remember THAT. Perhaps that's why that was the last person I was with whom I felt didn't give me enough foreplay - after that, I made damn sure there was plenty of it!
But here's something to chew on (no pun intended): since most guys WILL generally be more than happy to follow a woman's lead when it comes to sex, maybe YOU should initiate more foreplay for HIM. Although a lot of men don't *need* much foreplay, unless they are prone to premature ejaculation, they usually *appreciate* it...and while they're in that appreciative state, they are usually very much inclined to return the "favor" ;)
Bottom line, you gotta take responsibility for your own happiness, and that includes sexual happiness along with everything else. | |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 4:41:38 AM | | Foreplay is the best 3-4hour investment a man can make. Honestly guys, foreplay is the difference between adequate sex, good sex, and mind altering sex. | |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 8:37:28 AM |
The bigger problem is that most men actually talk like Cowboy but when it comes down to it aren't like that at all.
Soooo true!!!! So many men talk themselves up BIG time about how good they are and I've found they're the ones that are the worst lovers.
I was with a guy who talked about how good he was at foreplay, that he'd had women pass out on him ~ yadda yadda yadda ... turns out his idea of foreplay was a 2 min boob and kitty fiddle and then stick it in .... err no dude, that's NOT a good lover. In hindsight, maybe they passed out from boredom lol.
I agree that foreplay starts well before you get into the bedroom .... and guys if you've been treating your partner like crap all day, don't expect her to want to jump your bones later!! I adore foreplay, all day flirting and touching and kind gestures, general affection etc. And it goes both ways, I do all these things as well, I certainly don't expect the man do to all the "ground work".
I do think a close, emotional bond makes for better sex/love making. There's such a big difference between sex and really making love. If you really care about or love your partner, you enjoy pleasing them (well, you should!).
It's true though unfortunately there are a lot of selfish lovers out there.
I have a question for you guys ~ what is the best way to tell a man that what he's doing isn't doing anything for you, or you need more foreplay (as in above example) without insulting him or hurting his feelings too much?? I find that a very difficult thing to do. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2008 6:28:21 AM | ...One of my  Favorite Hobbies  ...!!!
I can Kiss and Fondle for H o u r s . . !!
...and just leave it at that ..
.. if that's what she wants..!!
But , when the ~agreed-on~ goal is  Making Love 
.. then I make Absolutely Certain that she has all she wants ..
[..without going into too much detail..]
..and Then Some..!!
Even to the point of  Teasing her a bit..!!!
* Remember . . : You should Both have F u n . . It's  P l a y .. !! * | |
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Posted: 7/20/2008 2:27:19 PM | Yay for foreplay.
It definitely makes it much much much better, and that's an understatement, even.
Like Jeff Foxworthy said..."Guys are like bottle rockets.....they go BOOM!...Ooh, ahh....Women are more like diesel engines....it might take a while for them to warm up, but once they do, they go for a long.....LONG time." | |
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Posted: 7/20/2008 3:19:16 PM | Chemistry;
what is the best way to tell a man that what he's doing isn't doing anything for you, or you need more foreplay (as in above example) without insulting him or hurting his feelings too much?? I can only answer for me. After being told that what I'm doing isn't doing the trick, it's a bet of a bummer, because I thought it was. The trick here is to re-group and start over. Completely clear my head; think about it for a bit; get a different psych; and go back to step one. I even recommend breaking the physical connection of the moment. Get up pour another glass of wine, get a drink of water, change music, etc; then sit down and start over, going a little slower this time, paying closer attention to what she wants. You seem to be a thoughtful and considerate lover; you might even ask him to lean back and relax, and you take the lead for a little bit; that way you can set the pace, and give him time to re-group. Once you get his head back into the game he should be able to clue in to where you are coming from and "rejoin the show already in progress." If you like what he's doing, but just want to extend the foreplay, that's easy; but in that case you do have to take the lead for a little bit. Re-direct him, tease and seduce him, if he has any sensitivity at all he should be able to pick up on your lead, and go from there. If he's showing a bit a frustration, just look him in the eye, and in your best bedroom seductress voice, smile and say, "Hey, you ARE going to get laid tonight; I promise."
Mndlssphnxxx
Women are more like diesel engines...
Yeah, and if you try and start them wrong, they will run backwards until you shut them down completely, and start over. | |
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