| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/17/2008 9:15:12 AM |
The difference is, bisexual sex between two men has the potential to be much riskier because of the "ACTIVITIES IN SECRET" part
Huh???? So are you saying sex between a male and female does NOT have that potential ???? If ANY partner in ANY sexual relationship is not honest with themselves and the person they are with, there is potential for all kinds of disasters. Those disasters are not just part of bi-realtionship.There is a BJ thread bouncing around here pointing out the fact that "some" women out there don't consider BJs sex and are willing to have multiple "sessions" not only within a week, but sometimes a day. I know one female "friend" on mine who I wouldn't consider touching because of the way she conducts herself behind closed doors and yes, she has offered. She didn't like the way my answer was put to her, but she still considers me her friend. Me, I just look at her a whole lot differently nowadays. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/17/2008 9:22:36 AM | | I have no problems with men who are bi-sexual, however when I am in a serious relationship with someone, I expect to be the only person they are sleeping with, unless it is a prearranged threesome. Cheating is cheating no matter the gender. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/17/2008 9:39:09 AM | Attitude can go a long way in having people understand your wants and needs.
The right attitude may just save someone a great deal of money when the local police are handing,or not handing,you your next traffic citation.
That said....your profile definitely seems to ooze some kind of attitude that may or may not be interpreted in a way that favors you.That is your thing to deal with.But......
A picture flipping off everyone.........seems to be the wrong thing to get any sympathy from.
You want it in the butt....you like it in the butt....you want to find others of like thinking.......willing to travel for the experience..........seems like "ass" is an appropriate term for this question. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/20/2008 11:06:32 AM | | You ar enot living a straight lifestyle if you are actively pursuing sex with another man, I have no problem with gay sex, but you are bisexual at the least not straight! Liv eyour life to the fullest and enjoy don't be ashamed of who you sleep with,if your honest you will never have to lie about it to anyone! | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/20/2008 1:44:00 PM |
One problem with this, OP, is that your lifestyle can unwittingly expose an innocent woman to HIV
ummmm...you know this isn't 1983 anymore right? and HIV isn't refered to as the "gay disease" anymore right?
you can catch that shit from women, men, black , white, yellow, green...there used to a video that you got back in the early 90's when you rented a movie, with Arsenio Hall and Magic Johnson .They talked about AIDS, to spread knowledge about a disease that was widely though to be contracted by "gays".
You should try and find a copy and watch it | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/20/2008 2:27:17 PM | | I dont care who is gay, straight, bi or whatever but I wouldnt be too pleased if a guy I was seeing was using me as his cover and sleeping with anyone else, its called cheating and lying in my neck of the woods. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/20/2008 2:56:10 PM | If you are in a one on one relationship and being bi is your excuse for having sex out side the
relationship that is total BULLSHIT if you date men or women thats something else
I have a close friend that is bi his girl does not have a clue whats going on we disagree on this but I feel like its way out of line and disrespectful to have a LTR and f#$@ any one on the side and the mind blower when she realizes whats gone on for years. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/20/2008 7:06:10 PM | One thing I don't get about this, is the implication that if a man is with another man, he is just GAY. No in-betweens. But women are allowed to be bisexual all the time and it's even encouraged.
Now I'm not gay by any means, but something is wrong there. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/20/2008 7:25:28 PM | I didnt read the whole thing, but I hope the risk of HIV/Aids and other STD's crossed your minds atleast once. I don't want to offend gay men, but they are at a higher risk for being infected, and if you are living on the DL, (thats assuming you have a wife/gf) you owe it to her to let her know what you're up to when she's not around...and anyone else you're fooling around with (that should be common sense for ANYONE) that's just my opinion... aside from that, whatever floats your boat as long as you're safe about it and not harming others.  | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/20/2008 7:29:11 PM |
ummmm...you know this isn't 1983 anymore right? and HIV isn't refered to as the "gay disease" anymore right?
you can catch that shit from women, men, black , white, yellow, green...there used to a video that you got back in the early 90's when you rented a movie, with Arsenio Hall and Magic Johnson .They talked about AIDS, to spread knowledge about a disease that was widely though to be contracted by "gays".
You should try and find a copy and watch it
There's a specific reason gay men are at higher risk of contracting, no one's calling HIV 'The gay disease', but we're all at risk and some people are at a higher risk than others. It just so happens gay men are more vulnerable to that than others, we're not calling them the cause, the reason, or the spread. Everyone should be careful... | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/20/2008 10:27:53 PM | | my only opinion for you op is that you're gay and your downlow activities passes diseases to the straight people, people like you make me sick to my stomach. keep that gay shit in the gay community, stop messing around with straight women. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/21/2008 9:04:26 AM | The problem? "You" are the reason that HIV has affected so many women. The anus tears. It isn't designed to have things shoved in it. You're far more likely to catch an STD, any STD, with anal sex.
So rather than be a man, a standup person, and admit you're gay, or that you just like sex with anyone or anything, you hide it. You date women and have sex with them, then run downtown and bend over for the first dude who looks rough and dirty enough to you (yeh, I read your profile). I find the dishonesty despicable.
Oh, and the odds of you catching HIV from a woman are very low. The conditions would have to be just right. The vagina isn't likely to tear, and the penis isn't likely to suck up any body fluid or blood (if it does tear). So 1980s or not, HIV is still primarily a homosexual disease. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/21/2008 11:41:29 AM | I was just talking about this situation with a bi person. I asked him would he tell a women he was dating (but wasn't sexual with yet) that he has sex with men. He told me no, because a lot of the women he's attracted too would not want anything to do with him.
I told him that wasn't fair. That women should have the option to say whether or not she wants to have sex with a man who have sex with other men. I have no problem with him being bi...Just be honest and open with anyone new (who you may think your interested in and may lead to sex) the truth about your lifestyle
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/21/2008 11:54:31 AM | | people talk about bisexuals as if they're not gay....YES THEY ARE ALL GAY! bisexuals are much worse than gays because they decieve the straight people, therefore i hold them totally responsible for infecting innocent women who in turn pass their diseases over to the straight men. they are nasty trash in my book. i don't like bisexual women either....they're all nasty trash | |
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Posted: 2/21/2008 12:29:48 PM | ~OT~ Hell, I live in Idaho and "Wide Stance Senator Craig" has done this his entire adult life. I didn't read the entire thread, but I would assume if a life-long political figure from an exceptionally conservative state has a wife, two adopted children, yet feels it's appropriate to take his sexual trysts to an airport restroom, propositioning an undercover cop for a little boink-boink before boarding his next flight can pull it off for 30+ years, it doesn't seem all that uncommon there are others doing the same thing. Personally ~ I have no issue with anyone's sexuality/preferences as long as everyone involved knows the truth, go wild.  | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/22/2008 2:32:59 AM |
people talk about bisexuals as if they're not gay....YES THEY ARE ALL GAY! bisexuals are much worse than gays
OK... in the first part of your statement, you express your ignorance by claiming that Bisexual = Gay. In the second part of your statement, you go on to explain how Bisexual is "worse than" (and therefore not equal to) being Gay.
You FAIL at logical thought. You're a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest, and I suggest you withdraw. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/22/2008 3:11:16 AM |
I told him that wasn't fair. That women should have the option to say whether or not she wants to have sex with a man who have sex with other men. I have no problem with him being bi...Just be honest and open with anyone new (who you may think your interested in and may lead to sex) the truth about your lifestyle
Dating isn't fair, and there needs to be give and take on both sides.
Do I agree, as a bi man, that people should ideally disclose their sexuality? Of course!
Do I understand why people might not disclose their sexuality, or support their decision not to ? Oh yes.
It's a reasonably fundamental rule that people will usually not deliberately act to sabotage their chances of getting sex, or restrain from sexual practices because they are frowned on by other people.
Also ask yourself if it's advisable to disclose everything if the other person is incapable of making an informed choice, then look at a (not terribly good) survey I saw a while back where 40% of women indicated they wouldn't go out with a bi man.
If you're bi, and have safe sex (with *all* genders), know you're STD free and aren't going to cheat which would you rather do : a) lose a high proportion of dates or b) lie, because your date is too immature or stupid to handle reality at that point?
I've lost a number of dates because I'm bi, and more because they couldn't handle something different (despite being monogamous). From my viewpoint, I'm stupid. Principled and honest, maybe, but bloody stupid. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/22/2008 6:53:03 AM | Syl, I don't think you're stupid, not at all. It's admirable that you've disclosed this information to your partners- it is the only human thing to do in my book. Yes, you may have every reason to keep this information to yourself but in the long run, even those who turn you down because you are bi will respect you much more for being completely open with them and allowing them to make their own choice based on FULL disclosure.
I have no problem with gay or bi men. If I met someone that I was interested in dating and he told me he was bi, I don't think that alone would deter me. If, however, he was promiscuous and unsafe, I would certainly think twice. But, if after dating someone for a while, completely oblivious to his orientation, and THEN I found out-either by accident or because he finally came clean- then, I would be LIVID. I would lose all respect and trust for this person,and they would no longer be in my life.
Honesty is always the best policy. Short term, it may seem like you are sabotaging your own success. But long term, you're life will be much more peaceful if those you surround yourself with trust you completely. JMO. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/22/2008 7:26:38 AM | Moi? Ignorant? I think not. Although it isn't politically correct to speak some truths, I don't mind doing so anyway. If you want to look at factual statistics, go to the CDC web site. Where do you think the small percentage of men who transmitted it to women got it? Yeppers...they're the ones engaging in homosexual behavior on the side. The last numbers I found were for 2005. Information is available for public disemination.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm#exposure
AIDS Cases by Transmission Category
Six common transmission categories are male-to-male sexual contact, injection drug use, male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use, heterosexual (male-female) contact, mother-to-child (perinatal) transmission, and other (includes blood transfusions and unknown cause).
Following is the distribution of the estimated number of diagnoses of AIDS among adults and adolescents by transmission category in the 50 states and District of Columbia. A breakdown by sex is provided where appropriate.
(I can't copy the tables, but the numbers tell their own tale...or should that be tail?) | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/23/2008 10:13:15 AM |
Also ask yourself if it's advisable to disclose everything if the other person is incapable of making an informed choice, then look at a (not terribly good) survey I saw a while back where 40% of women indicated they wouldn't go out with a bi man. Sly..No, I don't think you should disclose everything to someone you've just met, but if it's someone you've taken a liking too and you have that chemistry that you know for a fact is going to lead to sex...Yes, you should advise them of your sexual background. Some women are very open minded and wouldn't have a problem with it. If she does have a problem with it, you've save youself alot of time to find someone who's open... I've lost a number of dates because I'm bi, and more because they couldn't handle something different (despite being monogamous). From my viewpoint, I'm stupid. Principled and honest, maybe, but bloody stupid.
No, your not stupid....I admire a Man with principles and a Man that Honest.... | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle
Posted: 2/28/2008 10:50:12 AM |
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm#exposure
Well, maybe you are a bit ignorant to pick stats from 2005, that apply only to the U.S?
Aids is an epidemic all over the world, and its not 'primarily homosexual' at all. Like it was explained before they are at a higher risk. Thats all.
What about countries like India and African areas where aids is an epidemic and not considered to be a 'homosexual disease'?
Here's a world lesson for you Arugula, India has one of the worlds worst aid's problems, and it's not being transferred by gays. It's being spread by men who are unfaithful and seek the pleasure of prostitutes. Now, these prostitutes to boot have a bit of a Heroin addiction, so amongst the unprotected sex and rampant drug use and needle sharing, one of the worlds biggest population is being affected. Children are being born and left to die because they're infected.
I think this issue digs a little deeper than the world you think that you know so well.
So how about you, pick up a book, or a newspaper and do some actual research.
Remember that anyone could be a potential carrier, male/female gay or straight. HIV/Aids is going to harm you whether you're gay or not. Why must we classify it (or FEEL the need to) as a 'primarily homosexual' disease??
There's a lack of education in people that still hold closed-minded opinions like that. We're all people and we're all at risk. No one's immune to it. So stop pointing fingers, and if you're not going to be one to help, keep your ignorant opinion to yourself. | |
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