| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 2/28/2008 12:02:58 PM | | i dont think hiv was started by gay guys, maybe some. to say women never had it to begin with is silly, as well as saying any guy who gives it to a women is doin guys on the side. and id have to agree with the person who said gay is equal to bi, it just means ur not complaetely gay, but ur still gay tho | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 3/1/2008 7:59:10 AM | | people talk about bisexuals as if they're not gay....YES THEY ARE ALL GAY! bisexuals are much worse than gays because they decieve the straight people, therefore i hold them totally responsible for infecting innocent women who in turn pass their diseases over to the straight men. they are nasty trash in my book. i don't like bisexual women either....they're all nasty trash | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 3/1/2008 8:12:27 AM | men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle? i'm not reading all the other posts...
i don't think their living a straight lifestyle...period.
either their BI-SEXUAL or their HOMOSEXUAL and afraid to admit it...there's no grey area here.
and dude...just like people said in the '90's...it's the '00's(?)...it's 2008...if you're bi be bi...if your gay be gay...nobody really cares...(until recently when wanting to change "civil union" to "marriage") why be fake about it...i'm a guy, i have a ton of gay friends both male and female...it's really not that big a deal anymore unless you feel people directly involved in your life won't accept...otherwise society as whole has pretty much moved on...
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 3/1/2008 8:47:54 AM | Hey great expert, we get the point.
But it has been said, extreme homophobes are often self-haters... interesting
Hmm... I don't remember anyone ASKING you how you felt about gays, or bi's. We're all people. We all cry when we're sad, and bleed when we're hurt. Who cares who's sleeping with who??? And straight people, give each other STD's too! Shocking isn't it!! | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 3/6/2008 5:44:06 PM | OP:if you sleep with men you are not straight,the same with women sleeping with women. I am not making a morality statement,I don't care what lifestyle you have,but be honest with yourself and your partners. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 3/10/2008 10:07:07 PM | Living a straight lifestyle, doesnt' mean he's saying he's straight.
He's a man who sleeps with men, and keeps it on the DL by projecting the image that he LIVES a straight lifestyle. Never did he say he was straight. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 3/10/2008 11:55:47 PM | | I could care less who sleeps with who and I think it is waste of time that so many people spend so much time getting on their high horse about it. Look at the big flap we had over same-sex marriages in the states a couple of years back. All these bible-waving self-righteous idiots (half of whom are probably sleeping with men themselves) were all out screeching about this "violation of the sanctity of marriage," and yelling about how it threatened the sanctity of marriage between men and women. It threatens nothing except their religious values that they want to enforce upon everyone else. I say worry about your own bedroom and leave other people the hell alone. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 3/16/2008 10:25:39 AM | ^^^^This might be a valid point except for one thing.....THE OBVIOUS!!^^^^ Last time I noticed my health insurance rates raised was about 49 seconds ago....oooooops,sorry,it just happened again.Seems as though this behavior seems to spread beyond the,ooooops,damn it,up again,bedroom.It affects us all in ways we never directly see and yet all of us feel the economic,uugghhh,up again,pinch.Bedroom control is definitely out of the question but control of the aftermath,see...did it again,should be.
Give me a "Bible thumping moron" anytime...as long as he behaves as he preaches.At least I won't be paying for his physical mistakes. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 3/16/2008 1:33:40 PM | The bottom line is that there is no such thing as "a man having sex with men but living a straight lifestyle." A man who likes sex with men is a homosexual. He just likes to pretend that he is a normal male.
If the woman that that man is with does not know about it because the man hasn't told her, it is deceitful to her. It takes away her ability to DECIDE whether or not she wishes to remain with her homosexual male partner. It exposes her, WITHOUT HER KNOWLEDGE AND CONSENT, to HIV/AIDS and other diseases.
I do not believe that bisexuality exists. I believe that the one you PREFER and that you really get off on is what you truly are. To have sex with a gender that you don't prefer is perverted because if it's not what you really like, why do it and screw someone else up emotionally? | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 5/10/2008 8:57:38 AM | wow there's are some pretty ignorant comments being posted in this thread, so lets just shoot down a few shall we...
sleeping with men and women (regardless of whether one chooses to keep their same-sex activity on the DL) makes a person bisexual, not a closet or self-loathing homosexual. bisexuality is a valid sexual orientation, just like any other, and it is NORMAL. many people have fluid sexualities and are open-minded to broader experiences. just because one person is fixated on a single spot on the human sexual spectrum, does not mean everyone is similarly stuck there with them.
living a "straight lifestyle" is not the same as defining oneself as being straight. there is a gay sub-culture, fashion, and community. not all bisexual or even gay people take on that lifestyle, look, culture, or visibility.
as for all the stupid comments about HIV and AIDs, and the associated scapegoating of the gay community...lets have a little biology lesson and discussion of theory shall we. just do a bit of digging and you'll find that there's a reasonably credible theory linking HIV to a massive World Health Organization (WHO) smallpox vaccination campaign which occurred a few decades ago in africa. primates carry various straings of a similar virus, SIV (simian immunodeficiency virus) which tends to not develop into SAIDs in the host species, but becomes much more virulent when introduced to other primate species. SIV has been scientifically linked to HIV, and interestingly, during the smallpox vaccination campaign mentioned above, primates were used to cultivate the vaccine which was then introduced to the human populations of the same exact regions in africa which are widely acknowledged as being the ground-zero for the HIV and AIDs pandemic (hence crossing the primate species barrier -- humans are a species of primate for those who are missing my point). so blame the well-meaning doctors and scientists of the medical establishment and WHO for the origin of AIDs if you want to blame someone.
and lastly, i agree with the OP...why the hell is it that it's more socially accepted and even desirable for a woman to be bisexual or bicurious, but for a man it becomes associated with stigma and assumptions? personally i don't care if my partner is bi or straight, just so long as he's sexually responsible and totally honest with me. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 5/10/2008 1:15:13 PM | pardon me...a correction, my discussion above about the WHO vaccine campaign, this was in fact a vaccine against polio.
google the phrase "siv and hiv" and you'll find info about it. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 5/15/2008 12:56:37 AM | | i like my men bisexual. it's not something i must have, but a guy that swings both ways is always extra bonus. just think all the fun we can have me watching him w guys and he watching me w girls. goes for a very sexually charged and exciting time together. watching my man while some other dude licks him all over has always been one of my fave fantasies | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 5/15/2008 2:21:14 AM | | well I have to say I married a guy that is gay,dont really know if he like both men and chicks now but I think if a man wants to then its ok,its there life.I just say dont cover it if you are.hey some chicks like a guy like that.. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 5/15/2008 1:52:58 PM | | I think there's a problem with being dishonest with your partner. I do not think there's a problem with being bisexual. Socially it can be difficult. Maybe there are bi scenes in other places but not here in the Midwest. If you are leading your partner to believe you have a monogamous relationship and then are going outside of it, you are putting your partner at risk of contracting STDs without them knowing it. That is not cool. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 5/15/2008 3:49:04 PM | PardonMeMiss wrote: (message 83)
<div class="quote">If you were out camping with the guys and woke up with a sore ***hole covered in Vaseline, would you tell anyone?
ROFL..... does it matter what sex I am?????
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 5/15/2008 4:17:51 PM | ~OP~ I'm with you. Whatever works. As long as it's safe, sane, and consensensual ~ I see no double-standard issues with this topic. I've known several men who are bi-sexual ~ to each their own. It's not something I'd be interested in, for no other reason that I'm too territorial to share (be they male or female). But, today ~ what works is what works.  | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 5/19/2008 11:10:50 PM | Ha funny I stumbled on this thread. I think a good friend of mine is in the closet. Everyone that ever meets him says, "He ain't the most masculine fellow is he?" Guess I hate to come to terms with it because we have a history of chasing skirts. He's a little too in touch with his feminine side. Then again he could be bi.
He lives with a woman and her and I are both Italian and I think she's more attracted to me than him. But he lets her walk all over him and she knows I wouldn't stand for it so we have, shall I say an uneasy peace.
Personally I think he needs to just don the pink sash and come out with it before he drinks himself to death. Keeping crap bottled inside up ain't healthy. | |
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| men who sleep with men but live a straight lifestyle Posted: 5/21/2008 11:40:40 AM | | the difference is if the person is gay sexually or if it's their personality. living in the near san francisco, i have learned that i do not mind gay men (once they learn that just because i am willing to be friends with them does not also mean that i want to have sex with them) who are gay in their sexual self, but i can not stand for the most part gay men whom their personality is gay. once you learn the difference you would understand the statement "straight lifestyle" | |
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