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| Problems with Drug Tests
Posted: 2/15/2008 11:09:38 AM |
As for what employee would employ me? Quite a few really. But the offers I get are not what I want. They want me to actually show up more than three days a week.
I can mix some drinks but I don't do drugs. Almost everybody takes pills now days. You all are just a bunch of pill poppin' junkies. Somehow you all justify it because you think it's somehow 'better' than coccain, or pot, or X, or Acid, or heroine. The only reason you all druggies think this is because your "drug of choice" was given to you by a Doctor.
The funny thing is... I don't do drugs.
So, seaspot...beside missing the entire point of the thread, you are talking out of you a8s, as well...
How could possibly sit around, name-calling and profess to have any knowledge about drug use or testing...and not use yourself?
You wasted your time typing what you did...and you also wasted the time of anybody who reads what you wrote.
OP...drug use (especially illegal drug use) is a poor idea.
You may not get caught.
You might.
But the costs of getting caught far outweigh any possible "good" that might come from using.
But that's a decision that YOU have to make for yourself. | |
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| Problems with Drug Tests
Posted: 2/15/2008 12:12:10 PM |
I can mix some drinks but I don't do drugs. Almost everybody takes pills now days. You all are just a bunch of pill poppin' junkies. Somehow you all justify it because you think it's somehow 'better' than coccain, or pot, or X, or Acid, or heroine. The only reason you all druggies think this is because your "drug of choice" was given to you by a Doctor.
The funny thing is... I don't do drugs.
I am NOT on any prescriptions.
I don't drink or smoke.
This week I am conquering my addiction to caffeine, which is a drug. I will do it because I am a strong person.
Everybody is NOT on drugs.
These dopers or their sympathizers who go around stating that all of non abusers tolerate drinking and driving or we abuse prescriptions don't get away with it with me. | |
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Posted: 2/17/2008 12:35:29 AM |
Oh, puhleaaaaase. Medicines are different than abusing drugs, especially responsible use of medicine.
This is the most absurd thing I've heard. You want to be a hardliner against putting things in your body that is fine but don't sit there and say responsible use of medicine is anything like illegal drug use -- it is NOT and we have a multitude of laws for such.
Responible use of medicine??? That is pethetic, at best!
Do you even know the percentage of "pain killers" that go to the NFL alone? Whats the percentage of women who have a script for valium, or zanex? Or how about all the people taking oxy's, perks, etc. More pills for the kids!!! Medicine is so far from "responsible" it's off the charts.
Ive see daily pot smokers who are far better off than a bunch of sniveling punks who need their 'scripts! But I rarely meet a person who doesn't do 'scripts. Shit, alcohol and smokes are the least of the worries. The people who dope up on 'scripts and are more of a problem.
Prescription drugs are a far more serious problem than illegal drugs. People can take these drugs all the time and be in lala land and not get busted for driving under the influence or for the most part not even charged with illegal distributuion. But yet, it must be the pot smoker, or the weekend coccain user that is the problem.
Yes I smoke ciggarettes and yes I drink. Yes they both are a drug. But thats all I do. That is a but a small bit compared to all you pill popping junkies. | |
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| Problems with Drug Tests
Posted: 2/17/2008 1:51:50 AM | The only time where I see drug testing fair and reasonable is when the job requires the person to be clean and sober for safety sake. No, I am not suggesting that people show up and run the costco checkout till while stoned, but someone who uses pot recreationally isn't necessarily going to do a bad job.
If they're showing up late because they partied too hard the night before, deal with the issues then.
Some people can use pot and not let it effect their professional lives at all. I know people who use it and have advanced university degrees.
Simply detecting pot in a pre-employment drug test does not indicate that the person will be a troubled employee. The question is, how do you seperate the people who use it responsibly from those who use it irresponsibly before you hire them?
A good interviewer should be able to determine the person's attitude towards work by the way the candidate conducts themselves during the interview and by checking their references.
How many potentially great people have been rejected because they occasionally use pot recreationally?
And one more thing - if my paycheque deductions partly fund the welfare system so hardcore drug users can receive their unemployment cheque every month, I better not be subjected to a drug test if it isn't critical to the safety of the job. | |
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| Problems with Drug Tests
Posted: 5/10/2008 7:55:33 PM |
Oh dear, I cannot believe that you are asking these questions OP, and I am surprised at the number of responses to this rediculous thread, what are you people thinking???.......... Clearly your not, drugs have a habit of numbing the brain!!
You do drugs, what employer in their right mind would employ you???............next!!!
I know a lot of people who have very good jobs and smoke quite a bit of pot. One of my relatives is a judge and he smokes pot on a regular basis and has never had a problem with it. One of my parent's friends is a secretary for the Mayor of her city and she smokes pot... actually grows it, and she's had that same job for 20 years and has never been questioned about it. I know a lot of people who go to work stoned every day and no one knows the difference... When I was working for someone else (before I started my own business) I went to work stoned almost all the time, it's the only way I could deal with the jerks that came into the store without ripping their heads off for stupid comments, and the one time I did go to work without smoking a joint before hand my boss asked me if I was stoned or if something was really wrong.
I will admit, there are a lot of people out there who can't function on weed and that's fine, but there are some people who smoke pot like cigarettes and aren't affected by it any more than they are by cigarettes.
You shouldn't judge people just because they like to let loose and smoke a joint or two in their spare time, just like you shouldn't judge someone who has a beer as soon as they get home from work... there's no difference... | |
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Posted: 5/10/2008 9:05:01 PM | I went to work stoned almost all the time, it's the only way I could deal with the jerks that came into the store without ripping their heads off for stupid comments
Are you kidding me????
You shouldn't judge people just because they like to let loose and smoke a joint or two in their spare time
Well paws, I cannot believe you are being serious with the above comments!! Omg, time for you to get into the real world sweetie, and grow up!! I feel so sorry for anyone that employs you!!! Thanks for providing me with a laugh!! | |
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| Problems with Drug Tests
Posted: 5/10/2008 9:15:59 PM | | If your worried about a drug test for illegal substances, don't use any. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 11:07:48 PM | before everyone gathers their stones to cast at the stoners...
maybe you should open your eyes. if you knew how many people were doing drugs in this country -you would be shittin your pants. whether it be legal or illegal, the ones who are poppin perscription drugs should be wondering just what they are doing to their bodies as well. the drug companies are now advertising on tv now (making up symptoms to annoying normal body functions that normally fix themselves with changes to lifestyle) -restless leg syndrom? birth control that changes your mood swings and clears up your face? little blue erection pills? pills that make you pee less or not pee your pants? allergy pills? c-mon. were now a nation full of druggies. -the only problem with illegal drugs is the FDA and the DEA hasn't figured how to make a buck off them yet... | |
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| Problems with Drug Tests
Posted: 5/16/2008 9:26:46 AM |
Well paws, I cannot believe you are being serious with the above comments!! Omg, time for you to get into the real world sweetie, and grow up!! I feel so sorry for anyone that employs you!!! Thanks for providing me with a laugh!!
Well I don't know about your dead end job london b*tch, oops, I mean Lass, , but I am a successful business owner and I'm only 23 years old... what were you doing at that age? flipping burgers perhaps?
Let me tell you, I've never worked for less that $20 an hour, I've always had a full time job, and I own my own house on 5.5 acres and I've done it all on my own, no help from mommy and daddy... can you say the same? I seriously doubt it!
Never judge people for shit like that. I've been smoking pot since I was 9 years old, and I don't mean I tried it then, that is when I started smoking it every day, along with cigarettes, and guess what, I still have my own business that pulls in over 65 grand a year, I have money in the bank... I have everything I need to have a great life and marijuana had no factor in it... I think it's you that needs to grow up and get into the real world sweetie! I feel sorry for people like you that are totally oblivious to what actually goes on in the real world, you are stuck in your own perfect imaginatry world where people who are perfect angels and go to church every day and don't swear or smoke or do any drugs at all (including cafeine, alcohol, or any meds) are the only people who are accepted... you need to open your eyes lady cause people like that don't exist anymore. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 4:33:38 PM | Well I don't know about your dead end job london b*tch, oops, I mean Lass, , but I am a successful business owner and I'm only 23 years old... what were you doing at that age? flipping burgers perhaps?
What was I doing at 23 paws, well let me see, oh yes, I was an RN running a very busy ER taking care of the many pathetic pot heads like yourself who are a total waste of time, air, energy and medical resources.........
Never judge people for shit like that. I've been smoking pot since I was 9 years old, and I don't mean I tried it then, that is when I started smoking it every day, along with cigarettes, and guess what, I still have my own business that pulls in over 65 grand a year, I have money in the bank... I have everything I need to have a great life and marijuana had no factor in it.
Time for you to get some medical help here girly, you seem to be very delusional and in need of some very serious psychiatric and substance abuse intervention........... | |
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| Problems with Drug Tests
Posted: 5/23/2008 5:11:28 PM | I'm glad I dont work in the states. As a rights type person, I would object to the implied inference that I might do drugs so would refuse any such test unless I was doing a job that was safety critical like pilot or train driver. But testing someone working checkout or flipping burgers, thats just stupid and an infringement of civil liberty. Innocent unless proven guilty.
I would however point out that that statistics suggest that 75% of robbery etc is committed by heavy drug users who represent less than 20% of the criminal world.
I would also remind people that most drugs are addictive (and if you disagree then stop taking them for a month) and light recreational use does lead in some people to heavier use and then other drugs like heroin.
Because of the nature of society, people who use drugs are more likely to be more victimised at work which could lead them to lose their jobs. This then preciptates a downward spiral into excessive drug use and crime to fund it.
It's for that reason, I suggest that even though I assert the right of people to refuse drug tests, I don't condone drug taking. If a drug has any purpose to it, it has an effect on a person. Whilst it is having whatever effect, it is arguable that the person might not be capable of safely driving a car for instance. It is well known that a person under the influence whether or drink or drugs is the very last person to realise or accept that their coordination and perception is impaired. it is also a fact that when laws against drink driving began to be enforced, accidents rapidly fell because 30 years ago many accidents were due to drink impaired drivers. Now experts believe that most accidents are due to or aggravated by tiredness. So better education and enforcement of working hours is needed now to affect accident figures.
I dont do drugs and when I tried just to see how many did, selecting "do drugs" as a matching search, I was suprised at just how many people did admit to doing drugs. I guess mostly weed and a bit of coke. | |
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