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Posted: 3/21/2008 7:54:45 AM | I thought y'all over on the Eastern side were going to get together and party, and dance, and chow down on that good ole suth'n cookin', and go touring, and all kinds of great stuff, once the Michigan-ite Yankee Gals arrived? Not so?? 
They need a local guide or two or three, seems to me. You know. Suth'n hospitality and all. I'd volunteer but unfortunately in this case, I don't live over thattaway. 'Twould be a very long drive. 'Specially both directions.
I sure hope they have a lot of fun though.. 
-Suth'nBoy 
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Posted: 4/4/2008 11:16:26 PM | Heard tell the Michigan ladies have come and gone..
But they'll be back in the Summer!!
Wonder if that had something to do with the March Snowfall et al..
-Suth'nBoy 
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Posted: 4/12/2008 4:36:12 PM | TUMBLEWEEDS? IS THAT A BAD WORD? OR IS THAT A DESCRIPTION OF MICHIGAN GALS? I CAME TO THE TENNESSEE FORUM TO SEE IF I WOULD BE HAPPY RE-LOCATING TO THE SOUTH. I GREW UP WITH A SOUTHERN UNCLE THAT I LOVED DEARLY. HE BROUGHT COUNTRY MUSIC INTO MY LIFE AT A VERY EARLY AGE AND WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN.
MY SISTER HAS MOVED TO SMITHVILLE AREA, AND HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET ME TO MOVE NEAR HER. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY APPLIES TO ALL OR IS IT ONLY FOR SOUTHERNERS? PLEASE BE HONEST WHEN ANSWERING THAT QUESTION, AS MY FUTURE MAY DEPEND ON IT!!! AND, OH, BY THE WAY....... MICHIGAN GALS ARE IN NO WAY SCARED OF A LITTLE SNOW!!! LOL  , AS A MATTER A FACT, WE STILL HAVE ABOUT 6 INCHES STILL ON THE GROUND!!! CAN'T WAIT FOR SUMMER TO GET HERE!! STARTING TO GET A BIT OF CABIN FEVER  .......................LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU......................................................................................................LIGHT_HEARTED | |
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Posted: 4/12/2008 5:27:09 PM | DANGED YANKEES????? WOW , IF YOU REALLY CARE IF WE THINK YOU ARE ALIVE, OR CONCERNED WITH OUR PERCEPTION OF YOUR HOSPITALITY REPUTATION, WHY THEN DO YOU CALL US DANGED (WHICH , BY THE WAY IS NOT IN THE DICTIONARY, AND I'M NOT AN ENGLISH TEACHER) YANKEES? I THOUGHT THOSE WERE WORDS USED BACK IN THE ERA OF THE WAR BETWEEN THE NORTH AND SOUTH, NO? I, PERSONALLY, NEVER WAS ANY PART OF THAT WAR, AND, PROBALLY, NEITHER WERE YOU........ SO...... GET OVER IT ALREADY...... TALK ABOUT HOLD A GRUDGE . WHAT HAPPENED TO "WELCOME TO TENNESSEE?" JUST WONDERING  ..................................SINCERELY,
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Posted: 4/12/2008 10:44:57 PM | Light-Hearted, I think you are misunderstanding what you are reading here. You probably do need to read more of these forums, to get a feel for what's actually being discussed. .
The "Michigan Gals", which doesn't refer to yourself, or hasn't to date anyway, who indeed are Danged Yankees, and proud of it, are friends of this forum and the folks in it. And they post herein as well. They are two lovely ladies who live in Michigan, (at least for now), but who visit Tennessee every now and then. You might even want to get to know who they are, and why they do such things, considering that you are a Michigan Yankee your own self.
Secondly, it isn't particularly advisable to try to find animosity where none exists. If you prefer animosity, try out the political forums here. There's more than enough there to go around.
PS: And by the way, on the Internet, all upper case typing means you are hollering at the top of your lungs!
-Suth'nBoy
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Posted: 4/13/2008 3:56:17 AM | As one of a few Pof's that had the time to meet those two Ladies from Michigan. They had a ball here, didn't want to go back to the cold and snow of Michigan.
Said wherever they went, were welcome with open arms and had a blast here and can't wait to do it again. The Great Smokey Mt's is the #1 visit park in the U.S. Gatlinburg, Tn. is #2 behind Las Vegas, Nv. as far as weddings and Honeymooners.
No matter where you go, a few people or not gonna like anybody new, moving in or taking jobs. In the past few years have had, Michigan, Wisconsin, New York, people moved down here for the milder winters and less hectic life-style of the South. It is a different way of living, as you would find out in any part of the U.S. as a new person. It's what you make of it. By the way my Dad is a 4th generation, Tennessee, me I was born in Chicago and moved down here in 1989, will never move back. Visit family up there yes, move back , not if I can help it.
Good luck ,in your decision.
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Posted: 4/13/2008 4:23:01 AM |
DANGED (WHICH , BY THE WAY IS NOT IN THE DICTIONARY
Bless your heart, darling, it was said with the upmost affection. We're just gonna have to get you a southern dictionary. You will find the majority of us in the south came by way of somewhere else.........me, born in California, moved here when I was 5, raised by a French mother. It is all a melting pot, so just get off your high horse and simmer down. We will be more than glad to welcome you here, but learn to take a joke. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:38:20 PM | Dear Suth,
Sorry, I think you're right, I am new to this site and did not realize that capital letters ment one was yelling (at the top of their lungs, no less). I was not yelling, just trying to understand the conversation. I have been to a few sites, however, and when you use regular type they request capitals, as they are easier to read . I promise to never use them again, as I am a guest on your thread, and it is not in my nature to be rude .
I have never heard the expression "tumbleweeds". In the north we call visitors "Tourists", sorry again for the lack of communication. I was wondering if there is a Southern Dictionary that is available for the uneducated. No sarcasm intended there
I was not aware also, that I had a title of "Danged Michigan Yankee", I guess it's just a separation of location that I thought had died years ago. I love southern people, have many of them for friends, have been for years, and that title just never came up  ., just as the title "Danged Confederate" was just Never used ( With maybe the exception of 3rd grade history).
Any ways, I apologize if my questions appeared out of sorts, I was just kind of surprised to read some of your comments, as I didn't understand the intent.
Sincerely,
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:52:15 PM | Thank you Tnmanalone:
Thank you so very much for your kindness. Your explanation of what was said was very clear and understandable. I can totally relate to the masses of people moving to warmer climate!! They have been for years, many people that live in Mich. live as snowbirds, and live in the south every winter. I would imagine with the price of fuel as it is that there are many more people moving there for a year around residence.
Do you think you could explain one more thing for me while I have your attention? What does C.W. stand for? Thanks again for your kindness , and consideration towards others  , you're a sweetie!!
Sincerely,
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Posted: 4/14/2008 12:26:43 AM | Thank you for responding outofthedesert  ,
As I began to read your response, it was so sweet, I honestly laughed with you as you spoke of a Southern Dictionary, as we actually do have one to explain the Upper (that is what they call people from Upper Michigan), as they also have their own vocabulary. I can also understand the "melting pot" issue, as the whole United States seems to be a part of that. I don't however understand why you would think I am on a "high horse" because I asked a few simple questions. You may want to re-read my question to Suth, I honestly don't think I was at all rude, or out of line. My intent was not to come across as "sarcastic", I honestly had never heard the expression "tumbleweed", but I am sorry I asked!!! Didn't mean to step on any ones toes there  , peace, and God bless you. And, oh yea, I have a great sense of humor , ask any one that knows me
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Posted: 4/14/2008 2:58:23 AM | There truly is a 'southern dictionary'. You can find one at most of the locale touristy shops in Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge area.
Example--soda or pop--everything down here is Coke even if you are drinking a Pepsi. Want to go get a coke? and you order a root beer. To my mother who came from California, coke was a drug.
sack--fired some places, but here it is the bag they put your purchases in; it can also be a poke, at least that is what my grandmother called it. Elsewhere a poke is when you stick someone with something.
Here is a list of some:
) HEIDI - (noun) - Greeting
2) HIRE YEW - Complete sentence. Remainder of greeting. Usage: "Heidi, hire yew?" Hi, how are you?
3) BARD - (verb) - Past tense of the infinitive "to borrow". Usage: "My brother bard my pickup truck." borrowed
4) JAWJUH - (noun) - the state north of Florida. Capitol is Lanner. Usage: "My brother from Jawjuh (Georgia)bard my pickup truck and took it to Lanner(Atlanta)."
5) BAMMER - (noun) - the state west of Jawjuh. City there is Berminhayam. Usage: "A tornader jes went through Bammer an' left $20,000,000 in improvments." Alabama is west of Georgia
6) MUNTS - (noun) - A calendar dvision. Usage: "My brother from Jawjuh bard my pickup truck, and I ain't herd from him in munts." months
7) THANK - (verb) - Cognitive process. Usage: "Ah thank ah'll have a bare." Think
8) BARE - (noun) - An alcoholic beverage made of barley, hops and yeast. Usage: "Ah thank ah'll have a nutter bare." beer
9) IGNERT - (adjective) - Not smart. See "Arkansas native". Usage: "Them Bammer boys shore are ignert!" ignorant
10) RANCH - (noun) - A tool used for tight'nin' bolts. Usage: "Ah thank ah left my ranch in the back of that pickup truck my brother from Jawjuh bard a few munts ago." wrench
11) ALL - (noun) - A petroleum-based lubricant. Usage: "Ah shore hope my brother from Jawjuh puts all in my pickup truck." oil
12) FAR - (noun) - A conflagration. Usage: "If my brother from Jawjuh don't change the all in my pickup truck, that thang's gonna catch far." fire
13) TAR - (noun) - A rubber wheel. Usage: "Gee, ah hope that brother of mine from Jawjuh don't git a flat tar in my pickup truck."
14) TIRE - (noun) - A tall monument. Usage: "Lord willin' and the creek don't rise, ah shore do hope to see that Eiffel Tire in Paris sometime."tower
15) RETARD - (verb) - To stop working. Usage: "My grampaw retard at age 65." retired
16) FAT - (noun and verb) - A battle or combat; to engage in battle or combat. Usage: "You younguns keep fat'n, n' ah'm gonna whup yuh." fighting
17) RATS - (noun) - Entitled power or privilege. Usage: "We Southerners are willin' to fat for are rats." rights
18) CHEER - (adverb) - In this place. Usage: "Jest set that bare rat cheer." here
19) FARN - (adjective) - Not domestic. Usage: "I cuddin't unnerstan a wurd he sed... mus be from some farn country." foreign
20) DID - (adjective) - Not alive. Usage: "He's did, Jim." dead
21) ARE - (noun) - A colorless, odorless gas containing oxygen. Usage: "He cain't breath ... give 'im some are!" air
22) BOB WAR - (noun) - A sharp, twisted cable. Usage: "Boy, stay away from that there bob war fence." barbwire
23) JEW HERE - (pronoun and verb) - Contraction. Usage: "Jew here that my brother from Jawjuh got a job with that bob war fence cump'ny? Did you hear
24) HAZE - (pronoun and verb) - A contraction. Usage: "Is Bubba smart? Nah...haze ignert. He ain't thanked but a minnit'n 'is laf." he's
25) SEED - (verb) - Past tense of "to see". Usage: "Ah ain't never seed Noo Yawk City." the southern equal to seen
26) VIEW - (verb and pronoun) - Contraction. Usage: "Ah ain't never seed Noo Yawk City ... view?" have you
27) GUBMINT - (noun) - A bureaucratic institution. Usage: "Them gubmint boys shore is ignert." government
28) FIXIN' - (verb) - Preparing to. Usage: "Ah's just fixin' to do that now." getting ready to
29) JEETJET (complete sentence) - Did you eat yet?
30) YONTEW (complete sentence) - Do you want to?
31) TWIRLY-TWEET (complete sentence) - Too early to eat.
32) WRENCH OFF (verb) - what you do instead of taking a shower. Usage: "Let me go wrench off before we go out tonight."
Dictionary: redneck
A slang term, usually for a rural white southerner who is politically conservative, racist, and a religious fundamentalist (see fundamentalism). This term is generally considered offensive. It originated in reference to agricultural workers, alluding to how the back of a person's neck will be burned by the sun if he works long hours in the fields.
Once offensive, some people wear that label with pride----not me. You can call me southern but I am no redneck. I am a foreigner and a heathern--from my southern grandmother--because I was from California and Catholic.
Here is an online Southern Dictionary: http://www.originalsforyou.com/hillbilly.html
here is another: http://littlerock.about.com/cs/southernlife/a/aasouthslang.htm
But be aware, if you come south and speak the language, watch the accent, we can tell who you goldarn invaders are. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 5:56:04 AM | OTD...
You got me LMAO, on your list. Forgot more, than I remember. One was born in Chicago, my parents are from Tn. They were called Hillbillies and never thought nothing of it, because they were from the South and had the drawl. The kids didn't, even if we would pick up the words from both. Also they never ate pinto beans and corn bread like we did. It has gotten less with T.V. and the announcers sounding less , with a accent from that area.
My Dad was gone 50 years and when he moves back in 1993, he fit right back in. Me, even tho I've been down here since 1989, will never lose mine. Always get asked where I'm from. Don't think nothing of it.
It has been a adjustment for me, than when I lived in IL. People are not in a hurry, when get to the point of there story when THERE ready, not you.
So like I've said, even tho my Dad parents and Grand-parents and there parents are all buried together in a small cemetery were I go to Church and also have 2 plots to be buried there someday. Will always be a Yankee, but don't think nothing of it. Find it funny.
As far as Tumbleweed, is a saying from Westerns, they would blow thu town, they are a round bushy ragweed has a ton of thorns that will eat you up. Don't want to handle them. It also means most time a ghost town, or a town with little to do in it. Like the sidewalks roll up at 8:00 p.m. every night.While Tumbleweeds are not here in Tn, but out west. His point was there is not many people on here talking to each other, or doing things.
As OTD, knows, we had our first meet and greet in Knoxville, EVER. Have had some in Nashville, but never one in Knoxville. I think we had a good turnout, 45 people, not bad for the first time.
Feel free to ask anything of us 3, we are a really friendly group that will help you with anything.
The 2 Lady's from Michigan, live in the Thumb, of Michigan as they call that area. They have get together's at least once a week, so really have alot to do with there friends. Said will be back in summer, will see.
Take Care..
C.W. .....Was named after me Dad's twin brother, so went by my initials, C is for Carl, W is after my Grandfather, Wint, middle name. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 11:24:29 PM | Ya know what 'billy boy, you and Miss outofthedesert are both transplants, so why don't you both do Tennessee a favor and stop trying to represent a state that you both have much to learn about. I was told by one of your fellow statesmen that you don't have a clue, as I read them your scarcastic letters on this link. And as the other gentleman said, there is less of an accent then there was years ago, that's because there were those that had a desire to improve their speech !!! Cause they were trying to get rid of the "Southern Confiderate" carma!!! Soooo,,,, why don't you both get on your High Horse, or Low Horse, or station wagon, and go back to the states you came from BEFORE TENNESSEE!!! Or Better yet, why don't ch grab on to one of those TUMBLEWEEDS, And blow out of town!!!     , and by the way, your noise needs a little powder there sweetie!! ................................................................................THE MIGHTY TUMBLE
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Posted: 4/15/2008 11:37:20 PM | Your neighbors said you are both wanna bes , LoL and that there are belly buttons every where, said to grow up and be an American, the wars over between the states, we have bigger enemies now, it is time to join together and get enlighteded!!! Really sad that you have nothing better to do than sit on this computer to cause seperation in this world!! And that all your education and travels have not improved your small minded , judgemental ways.
I am looking forward to meeting the REAL people from the south, not invaders , imposters, and wanna be's. The best thing you two can do to improve Tennessee is leave, (preferably before I get there!!  | |
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Posted: 4/16/2008 2:20:04 AM | You know what, Lighthearted, I moved here when I was five which means I have lived here 57 years. I have education and am not small minded. I have friends from all ethnic, financial and educational realms. Just because I don't have Tennessee on my birth certificate--which my father does-makes me no less a Tennesseean. We were sharing humor and if you move here, you best learn Southern humor and southern ways or you will always be an outsider. When speaking with outsiders, you will find little accent from us because we have learned that others think because we are from the south, we are stupid and uneducated, barefoot and moonshiners. When we are with our own, our accents are of no concern. No matter how hard one tries to cover an accent, some will come through. I bet you even have one. I work with many people who were born here and the accent and the pronouncment of words is indeed here. I even will sound words in some of the ways mentioned. So get that rod out of your back and lighten up. We were only teasing with you and I am sorry you misunderstood
My mother had a terrible time with the local lingo when she came here. Here a poke was a paper bag or a salad green, to my mother it meant to make a hole in something or to stick you finger in someone's rib, etc. My mother knew sodas or pop, here everthing is a coke, regardless of it being a Sprite, Pepsi, etc. A sack was also a bag, to her it was to be fired. To me, I understand the words because I have been hearing them since I was small. I am sure you have nomenclature and slang that is indigeneous to your area, as well. We probably would not understand some of the verbage and would need it translated. I was simply offering some of what you would hear. Go to the back areas of really rural counties near the NC/GA lines and you will hear the words in an earlier post sounding exactly like I listed them.
Suthn was telling you exactly how folks from rural Alabama sound. Trust me, when you visit, you normally don't meet the real country folks who would give you the shirt off their backs and share their last bean with you. Call them rednecks and country, they are darn proud of it. I have a friend who is an administrator in a hospital with tons of education and she proudly says she is a hillbilly. We use redneck, country, and hillbilly with affection but have come to understand when an outsider uses the term it is with distain and elitism. We learned to poke fun at ourselves a long time ago. The rest of the nation does, why shouldn't we? Watch some of the country humorists. Bill Engval, Larry the Cable guy, Jeff Foxworthy. We see the people they talk about on a daily basis.
I hate to tell you but in some areas people are still fighting the war because of the distain shown to southerns. Carpetbaggers are still alive and coming south. We are not trying to perpetuate the stereotypical southern, we are simply sharing how things are.
As far as scarcastic letters--it must have lost something in the translation--because it is southern humor. We all understand it down here and you will even find it on the local radio stations. I don't know who you shared letters with, but I doubt it is someone who knows either of us and to make a judgement on people you don't know based on things you don't understand is indeed small-minded at you put it. We welcome everyone here.
As far as my nose needing powder, I have a skin condition that causes reddening of the skin and all the medications from the doctor have not helped and believe me if powder would cover it, I would, but then again most people have manners enough not to mention it. | |
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Posted: 4/16/2008 7:03:48 AM | Yipes! Sounds like somebody up there has been a-chewin' on some pretty bitter 'fruit-of-life' for much too long!  Relocating southerly ain't gonna solve that problem! Its not about geography! Maybe she'd oughtta stay put, at least till she can work all that out somehow.. Suth'ners aren't very receptive to pushy folks with an attitude.. Especially those who barge in yelling!
Did she actually suggest we'uns here should leave, and get out of the South??? Nahh.. Surely I must've read that wrong..
What the heck is all that mess doin' here anyway? Why not post that sour stuff in her own forum? Although I'd not wish it on Michigan either!
-Suth'nBoy
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Posted: 4/17/2008 11:35:00 AM | Just to add a little comment here.
I don't think I've ever met anyone from the South who was ashamed to be from the South, first of all. Quite the contrary. Can't think of a single one.
Nor have I ever met anyone from the South who felt there was anything wrong with the lingo, or the accents, as used here..
So whomever her friend from the South is, which that gal says told her those things privately, I'd have to suggest, is just plain sadly misinformed. And probably not really a Suth'ner at all.
-Suth'nBoy
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Posted: 4/19/2008 2:51:17 AM | Those southern dictionaries are sold all around here. We poke fun at ourselves, why she should get riled, is silly. Listen to the southern humorist, the late Lewis Grizzard, the current Jeff Foxworthy, Bill Engval, et tal.
From the southern humorists:
Chase Jackson said, "Being southern means you don't have to retire to the north."
Tempa Worsham said, "[Being Southern is] A way of life! Peanuts inside a bottle of Coke-Cola is considered a delicacy. Highways and back roads where every passer-by extends an index finger from the steering wheel or gives a nod of acknowledgment. A truck is considered the family sedan. Buttered biscuits with homemade preserves are breakfast, lunch, supper and desert. A lifestyle where parts of the pig no northerner, easterner, or westerner would eat are the food staple. When good manners run as deep as well water. A world were the phrase 'your Momma' will get you in a whole heap of trouble I don't think you can define Southern, it is a way of life! If I had raised my boys somewhere else I couldn't have given them southern. They'd have seen it in me, like the child of a germen grandmother witnesses German. But they couldn't have become it! You can't fake it. You can't create it. Those who have run from it always come back (even if just for a visit). Those who mimic it in fun, don't understand it. Those who love it, have lived it!"
Marta Martin said, "I'm a genetically altered Northerner....sort of like a cyborg Southerner. For us, this is what it means to be southern-----It's my kids rolling their eyes in northern restaurants when sweet tea is not offered on the menu. It's my son packing Dr. Pepper in his suitcase and not understanding why he is offered Root Beer instead by unsuspecting Northerners. It's wearing shorts and sandals as late as Halloween and as early as St. Patrick's Day, weather permitting. It's having people I grew up with telling me, 'You talk funny now.' It's telling people who ask, 'When are you moving back north?' that I am already home."
Ben Baker proclaimed, "Southern is attitude. As is redneck. My brother, who is more well-traveled than me, has met rednecks in Canada. Except for saying things like 'aboot' and not meaning a type of foot covering and being covered in snow for entirely too many days during the year, Canadian rednecks are the same as South Georgia rednecks. I do put this caveat - This is information from my brother who has a master's degree in Latin and English and teaches English. His redneck license is under constant review. Southern is having a sticker on your boat that reads - Eat More G.R.I.T.S. and then not being able to haul your boat to your Grandma's house for fear of having to explain the sticker. Southern is knowing what kaolin is used for. Southern is understanding God, Guns & Guts made this country what it is and anyone who tries to take away any of the three is in danger of finding out exactly what all three can do. Southern is deep-fried. Anything. Seriously. You can roll a corncob in flour & meal and fry it in peanut oil and a Southerner will at least try to eat it.
(Note: G.R.I.T.S. is girls raised in the south. With out the periods, it is that stuff we eat for breakfast or under shrimp and gravy, depending on which southern state you hail from.)
David D. said, "I don't feel the compulsion to have to explain to anyone what being southern means. I have not only kept my southern-ness, but I have also kept it rat 'chere at home where it belongs. I have not exported myself nor my ways nor my likes and dislikes to any other part of this great country and demanded that the locals adopt me nor them. I have not gone into their back yards and made fun of their traditions and their quirks. I have not accused them of being bigoted ignoramuses who intermarry and practice varmint-like hygiene. I may not like the way they talk, but they have the freedom to use their brogue when they are at home - Jes' like we do. I love where I live, where I was born and where I was brought up. I would not trade the geography, nor the drawl and the slang, nor the sweetea and fried pies, nor any of the other indigenous and glorious things about my home for all the other places on earth that I have been. Doubtless, I would be able to stomach outsiders coming into my southern domain a whole lot better if they respected these (and other) things - just as they would want me to do if I had invaded their space. That's all."
I think that pretty much sums it up. Yep, reckon it pretty much does!
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