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| | CRUNCH TIME !Page 79 of 105 (65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105) | Wow Reddox had one good game! Penner has had a lot more good games than that. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve the demotion from time to time but Penner seems to produce on whatever line he's on in some capacity. Penner, in all reality would be a great second line left wing. Penner, Cogliano and Cole would probably be a good second line. Reddox certainly doesn't belong on the first line on a regular basis. Schremp had 4 good games for the time he was here and where did that get him? Reddox doesn't belong on the team ahead of Poulliot and Nilsson either. If it wasn't for Roli we certainly wouldn't have won that game. They had a ton more shots on net than we did and they spent a whole lot more time in our end than we did in theirs.
who is that doing colour commentary on CBC tonight? You'd think they'd at least hire a guy who can speak English It's the CBC for heaven's sake! Cultural diversity and all that. So not surprising. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2009 12:29:01 PM | I'll begin with "I really don't wanna argue the matter and I'll just say say that the things you're accusing people of here aren't really too accurate if applied to just one poster, but it IS a fairly common opinion in the pond as a whole". And as far as "has Been said, ad nauseum" I'd wager you've had as many positive/supportive things to say about MacT as negatives have come from many individual posters here. Bit of pot/kettle action IMO. And how about your last comment that I quoted?..... What kinda response was expected?.....
Anyhoo, as I said, I don't wanna quarrel about the whole thing. Another "agree to disagree" thing I guess, or actually "more of same". (sorry to hear about your eye too BTW)
On to the Preds and the Wings. WHAT WAS THAT?!?!? I hope they used up their third wish on that one. Hope the Pens get it together tonight and the Vancouver Columbus game is just a 2 pointer. HUGE day on Tuesday, then the trade deadline Wednesday afternoon. Wondering what'll happen there the next 3 days. Pretty lackluster so far. C'est la vie. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2009 12:52:02 PM | Bit.. my "it has to be said" was in retort to yours and smilie's constant ragging of Mac T. It's brutal how you guys can not give him credit when credit is due. It's like it'd kill you to say "hey, you know what? That was actually pretty smart by MacT." Instead of doing so, the two of you continue to make excuses as to why the move was not a good one.
What's even funnier is how smilie continually complains about the constant line-shuffling, then suggests new lines to try. That makes no sense at all. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2009 2:39:55 PM | I think a bigger line like that suits Penner better and "Huggy Bear" could use a hand mustering some offense since he seems to insist on trying to become a goal-scorer. 
GO OIL!!! Go Pittsburgh | |
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Posted: 3/1/2009 3:16:24 PM | If I ever see something smart by the coach - credit where credit is due - that hasn't happened yet. When you roll the dice enough times, eventually you'll win once or twice so why not roll it again? You were the one hacking on Penner so badly rbg. I admit he's not necessarily a first line winger but given what we currently have, he's the best first line winger. MacT's constant public whipping of him is not warranted given the performance of other players out there. Horcoff anyone? How the heck will he justify his raise given his (lack of) performance this season? Horcoff really isn't a first line centre either but he's still playing in that spot and often a poorer contributer to the play than Penner is but is never brought to task for it - at least not publicly.
Cogliano deserves second line minutes a hell of a lot more than Gagner does. Based on his play this year, Cogs probably deserves first line minutes ahead of Horcoff. The poor kid (Gagner) needs less pressure on him. Gagner is not suited to a checking line roll per se but maybe some time with Moreau will be good for him. Penner played well with Moreau and so has Cogs. We need someone who knows what to do with these guys - so far MacT has shown us he has no idea from game to game. | |
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Posted: 3/1/2009 5:12:09 PM | Smilie, you CAN'T give MacT credit... it's beyond your abilities. Y0u proved that many months ago when you basically stated that he had nothing to do with their success on the Stanley Cup run. (If memory serves me correctly, you praised Billy Moores for that success.) That's why I gave him breadit... because it sure as heck wasn't going to come from your or bit.
And I'll continue hacking on Penner. He's one of the most overpaid players in the entire league. You've still to come up with anyone in the NHL who makes $3M or more that you would not trade Penner for straight across ( a challenge I posed to you three weeks ago) so in that regard, your silence speaks volumes.
But I will note that at least I have the ability to commend Penner when he has anything even remotely close to resembling the kind of game one should expect from a $4.25M player. That's more than you can say for yourself in regards to the coaching.
As for the rest, smilie, you've already stated that you've thrown in the towel on the season. Your dislike for MacTavish has surpassed your ability to cheer for the team. You want to see them fail, just so he'll get fired. To me, that's the worst kind of "fan" there is. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2009 12:38:30 AM | thats not even a fan..
penner is expecting to be traded, girlfriend told me
he checks online hourly to read the rumours. lol
another week or so off for me. (= | |
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Posted: 3/2/2009 12:41:39 AM | hemmers' xrays came back ok (=
and i didn't read into too much, but i think someone said
reddox on the top line was a joke?
other than cogliano, reddox played the most solid 60
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Posted: 3/2/2009 4:08:40 AM | | Well, Moreaus eye didn't require surgery. He's gone home but it's still being observed. There was some damage to the eyeball itself apparently but the prognosis is still unknown. wait and see(so to speak) | |
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Posted: 3/2/2009 4:15:21 AM | | That's good news. It wouldn't be the first time an Oiler captain had a career-ending eye injury (Al Hamilton). There have been other Oilers whose careers have ended on the ice with eye injuries as well. Ryan McGill comes to mind. And Craig Muni came within a hair of losing his eye. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2009 4:56:08 AM | | Wow, small world huh? (again) Hamilton was from before I really noticed the Oilers yet. Broad Street Bullies fan way back then. Don't recall McGill, but I see he wasn't here long. I was likely workin' my butt off in Fort Crack. (WORK, EAT, WORK! WORK, SLEEP, WORK! Huh?... hockey?... No time!) I think I remember the Muni incident though. wish we could rummage up D-men like him now | |
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Posted: 3/2/2009 9:18:08 AM | | Ryan McGill was forced to retire due to his eye injury and went into coaching almost immediately afterward. He coached the Kooteney Ice to a memorial Cup championship (started as an assistant when the team was in Edmonton), then went to the Rangers' organization (Hartford Wolf Pack). He's been with the Flames farm team for the last four years or so. Good hockey mind. He'll be an NHL coach someday. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2009 9:27:05 AM | Ultimately I want what's best for the team and a new coach would hopefully breathe some life into these guys. It's a miracle they won on Saturday because they were certainly being outplayed. The lack of effort by the team is apparent when one of your best players is someone who really doesn't belong in the NHL yet. We're not getting any effort from a lot of players - Hemsky, Horcoff, Gagner to name a few, besides Penner.
As for your stupid challenges rbg, I chose not to get into it with you since you seem to think you're the only one who's right and the rest of us supposedly know nothing. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2009 9:48:40 AM | As for your stupid challenges rbg, I chose not to get into it with you since you seem to think you're the only one who's right and the rest of us supposedly know nothing.
cough cough ...COP OUT ... cough cough
Of course, you'd never admit it, but I'd be willing to bet you have scoured that list and could come up with no one. Check that... there IS one person in that category who you might not trade Penner for straight across... but of course, he already plays for the Oilers.
As for the rest of your attack, I have, on more than one occasion, admitted I was wrong.
1) I have commended Penner for good play in the past.
2) I have said that I agree that it is time to get rid of MacTavish
But I certainly realize that suggesting that for you to ever admit you are wrong would smack against your gender instincts. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2009 6:44:30 PM |
cough cough ...COP OUT ... cough cough
Of course, you'd never admit it, but I'd be willing to bet you have scoured that list and could come up with no one.
Just...wow. 
But, to satisfy probably the 4th or 5th ridiculous "challenge" you issue to people - and yet are usually highly erroneous - I'll give you (off the top of my head) NHLers who make over 3M that I'd not take here in lieu of Penner (for a flurry of reasons):
Ron Hainsey, Michael Ryder, Marco Sturm, Jeff Finger, Nik Hagman, Doug Weight, Bill Guerin, Jochen Hecht, Cory Sarich, Kevin Bieksa, Michael Rosival, Mike Commodore, Adam Foote, Christian Erhoff, Miroslav Satan, Sean Avery, Rostislav Olesz, and last but actually first: Mike Comrie.
And I'm sure there is more. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2009 7:04:27 PM |
Ultimately I want what's best for the team and a new coach would hopefully breathe some life into these guys. It's a miracle they won on Saturday because they were certainly being outplayed. The lack of effort by the team is apparent when one of your best players is someone who really doesn't belong in the NHL yet. We're not getting any effort from a lot of players - Hemsky, Horcoff, Gagner to name a few, besides Penner.
Went to the game on Saturday, and roloson can thank his lucky posts they were even in the game. I stopped counting at four, and you were bang on when you say there were outplayed by a tired Wild team, playing its backup no less. Sadly, our less than stellar team play was masked once again by a yeoman effort from Rollie, imo.
Then again, why address the real problems? Let's just pat MacT on the back ,get as much airtime as possible when we win, pretend it is the good old days and meet Mess & Wayner over at the Colesium Steakhouse for a beer after.... oh,wait... forgot it wasn't '84.
And I helped you with the alleged "challenge" smilie... it only took about 3 minutes to think up about 20 guys who have far whose contract v/ performance ratio than Penners - and anyone who actually watches the game would know better. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2009 9:59:26 PM | | Thanks for the search results! I have to admit, I never actually looked for anyone because personally, I wouldn't trade Penner until he has a chance under a new coach. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2009 6:49:11 AM | Definitely gonna have our hands full tonight. Preds have never really been easy for the Oil and they may be riding a high after the shellacking they just handed the Wings to boot.
Sounds like Moreau's likely gonna heal OK but he'll be out for a few.
Still nada on the trade front with a day and change til the deadline. Fairly common opinion that little'll change too.
A few big games today in the western standings.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 7:45:37 AM | Sadly, not holding alot of hope on this one. I predict a loss, but it won't be as bad as the Wings got beat.
Maybe I will be wrong........
Go OIL (anyway)!!!! | |
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Posted: 3/3/2009 9:46:15 PM | Well at least Anaheim and Minny lost tonight so we should still be in 8th. We got one point and horribly outshot again. Roli is certainly playing for a contract for next year. Maybe with the new coach he will have a team in front of him.
Deadline is tomorrow midday. With Moreau out for an unknown length of time, what do you think they're going to do? If anything? | |
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:01:28 PM | FIRE THE COACH
Sorry, just joining in the chorus... | |
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:06:03 PM | | HAHA! Sing it again Uber - did wonders for your team now didn't it? At least it didn't take you guys 7 seasons to realize it. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2009 11:33:16 PM | well, it almost worked......
gotta say, flashes of brilliance from most too bad it was only bursts and flashes.
oh, and ( I know he would never read this in here but...) Souray you wimp! Get down in front of that shot! (I wanted to call him something else but wont)
was so hoping that my plan would work.... then could say something like I hope they lose the rest of the season..........
Plan B anyone?
and I am certain Smillie will bug me about this comment, however.....
of what I watched - Reddox deserved LINE #1 alot more than Penner did - Of what I WATCHED (being clear here) better hustle and far more effort - not going there about the line switch late in the third, was not watching when that happened.
oh, and where did this Jaques guy come from? is he as big as he looks? how many games has he played? imo, he could fit into a third line or second with playing time, just looked a bit rusty, but was doing some things right.
(I wonder how bad I will get it for that comment?  )
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Posted: 3/4/2009 5:03:32 AM | T'was a real entertaining game alright, and at least we came away with a point. Entertaining keeping that pack nice'n tight anyhoo. BTW Hope Roli's neck isn't too sore.
Hafta agree with a couple of your point sleeps. I wonder if Souray might serve better playing as a forward, as he sure does lack defensively. I never really saw much accomplished by Reddox but at least he played with heart. Penner, well, EVERYBODY on the team seems to pick it up a fair bit at least occasionally, but his performance shines reeeeeally occasionally so I'd hafta say that personally, I just can't justify the crazy money he's getting for not doing too much, conflict or not.
And WHAT was wrong with Hemsky? Did he just come from the bar where somebody slipped something into his drink? He himself was even frowning, looking down and shaking his head at some of the bad plays he made. Nice to see Gagner finally have a good game again. He was clicking with Cole pretty well again. (who woulda guessed) Poulliot seemed to go pretty well with them this time, as did Nillson previously. No comment on the lines being swapped around.
I hope our early road game prowess kicks back in now as the next 3 are down east, followed by our final eastern matchup this season but at home. ALL biggies thereafter.
Still nothing on the trade deadline front and it's just hours away now. (goal scorer to go with Hemsky) *fingers crossed*
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Posted: 3/4/2009 11:59:19 AM | No rental players means no playoff push? Still 5 minutes to make a splash I guess.
I think our current roster is full of guys in identity crises.
Phoenix is having a sale and the Flames picked up Jokinen as well as Leopold from Colorado. Looks like the Penguins and Boston are serious too.
I'm kinda disappointed nothing has happened but at the same time, we needed a blockbuster trade that didn't show any signs of happening by all reports.
Looks like the Rangers got both Antropov and Morris too.
Well at least we're still in 7th with 2 games in hand. | |
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