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 just alittle crazy II

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Posted: 10/26/2009 5:19:24 AM
Yankees should do it
 sum1reel

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Posted: 10/26/2009 8:41:57 AM

Spending a quarter billion dollars on players....Who needs a manager to coach a team?


Yeah rite, how many WS did A-rod(and other big money players) win for the Yanks in the past 9 yrs?..........you mouth off (when its convenient to you) about the Yanks payroll being the highest in MLB, but you IGNORANTLY forget that the Bsx's payroll is way higher than 90% of all the other teams....and how GREATLY they benefited from it!.....Since Jhenry came in, the Bsx won 2 WS, using the free-agent method!..WTF did they win before that? .....he whined about getting a salary cap when the Yanks signed A-rod from texas, (as well as losing out on Contreras) but they (the 3 stooges, henry, werener, lucchino) quickly changed their tune when they saw success!!!!...........so don't sit there (in your mom's basement) whining about big payrolls that the yanks have, because most of the owners benefit from it!.......you should be grateful that the Yanks do what they do, cause its the only reason why the Bsx are as competitive in the ALE as they are today....you ignorant Donk!



It's quite easy why they are there.


Well........that not what you (and your dingaling buddy) were saying at the begining of the season, when the Bsx were ahead...was it, Pal!!!..........when you both were crowing about how the Bsx were gonna stay on top of the ALE, and how schitty the yanks were despite the big payroll!


It's tough to read your lips


then get yourself a pair of glasses...and then read this: " Bsx ARE S O R E L O S E R S "


If that's what it takes, I'm all for it.


...which goes to PROVE, that you are nothing but a "band-wagon riding" wanna-be..... impostor
 ratherBgolfing

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Posted: 10/26/2009 10:04:51 AM

so don't sit there (in your mom's basement) whining about big payrolls that the yanks have, because most of the owners benefit from it!.......you should be grateful that the Yanks do what they do, cause its the only reason why the Bsx are as competitive in the ALE as they are today


You're kidding right?
Come on sum1... you're coming off like a Yankee fan who cannot accept what the Yankees are. Even the most biased Yankee fan out there has got to accept the FACT that the Yankees are who they are and will always SPEND THE MONEY NECESSARY to win championships. The Yankees don't need a farm system. They have the rest of Major Legue Baseball to tend to such trival matters.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. In fact, the way I look at it, in professional sports it's all about winning so do what you have to do.
I think people who b1tch and complain about the way the Yankees stack their teams are just envious that their favourite team's owner does not do the same thing.
That said, there's no reason for Yankee fans to try to interpret Steinbrenner's actions into anything more (or less) than what they are. He buys world championships. Period. And you know what? As a fan of the Yankees, you should rejoice in that. Don't try to justify his actions by saying he makes the rest of the league better by doing what he does. Steinbrenner could not give a rat's a$$ about the rest of the league. Plus, his actions do not need justification. He is an owner who loves winning more than anything. Good on him.

But saying that the Bo Sox are only as competitive as they are because the Yankees spend money is ridiculous.
By saying that, you're saying that if the Yankees chose not to spend money like a rich kid in a candy store, the Red Sox would suck. That can't be further from the truth.
 Hawaiianluau

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Posted: 10/26/2009 11:49:25 AM
Ok so we're trash talking now - wooo hoooo.

"I've got a New York state of mind".
And a trash talking state of posters because the
Yankees made it.
az aaarighhhhh.
Bring it.
Philly'll get er done.

Since we are trash talking the Yankees don't deserve it.
The Angels played the worst baseball they have in recent history.
 blondblueyed

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Posted: 10/26/2009 2:10:50 PM
I will be the first one to step up and defend the Yankees organization as far as providing the best possible product even if it is with the highest payroll. They are not doing anything that any other ownership group couldn’t do themselves if they wanted. However, for their fans to then throw other payrolls out as an example of how they are not the only ones “over spending” is stretching it a bit.

I will be the first one to also defend the fact that even with that huge payroll it hasn’t guaranteed them anything, the last decade proves that without anyone defending it.

However, I don’t care how you slice it there is a HUGE, HUGE difference between $201 plus mil and $122 plus mil. The next highest team isn’t even within the same price range as the Yankees and it’s the “other” NY team, with most of it sitting on the DL all year! (no offense JAC).

Also, a bit of stretch for Yankees to be calling other teams‘ fans “bandwagoners” when they themselves only show their faces when they’ve got titles and hardware to show off. Giving further proof that they are fair weather “Yankee winning” fans.

Problem with the Yankees someone asked??? No, not at all, the team is great it’s just their ***hole fans. Fans that are simply only fans of the Yankees , not the sport or the game just the team.

Well, sorry to break the news but if Boston fans are sore losers then Yankees fans are sorry, ungracious, pompous winners.

GO PHILLIES!!!!
 ratherBgolfing

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Posted: 10/26/2009 3:48:45 PM

Since we are trash talking the Yankees don't deserve it.
The Angels played the worst baseball they have in recent history.


I don't see how the fact that the Angels played poorly makes the Yankees undeserving.
The Dodgers also played as poorly as I have seen them play all season, so maybe the World Series should be cancelled.
 sum1reel

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Posted: 10/26/2009 10:52:23 PM
You're kidding right?
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Come on sum1... you're coming off like a Yankee fan who cannot accept what the Yankees are. Even the most biased Yankee fan out there has got to accept the FACT that the Yankees are who they are and will always SPEND THE MONEY NECESSARY to win championships.


sir, you obviously are not familiar with the dynamics involved with so-called "yankee spending".........if you took the time to realize it, the Yanks were LEAST successful when they spent indiscriminately, as they did after their 2000 WS victory......the Yanks didn't make the team better when they picked up A-rod, nor was it made better when they signed free agent pitchers such as Weaver, Brown, Contreras,Johnson, Pavano and a whole host of other players who were a bust (too many to name)...you might say that the intention was there as well as the means, but what you intend to do and what actually happens are 2 different things.........history has shown that SPENDING BIG MONEY, is NOT a necessity for wining a championship!..........I accept the yanks for what they are, they are a team whose ownership is dedicated to providing the best product that they can put together for their viewership!





The Yankees don't need a farm system. They have the rest of Major Legue Baseball to tend to such trival matters.


now you are sounding as ignorant and bitter as the Wiz...i suppose that players such as Derek jeeter is not from the farm system, nor was Bernie Williams?...right now you have Hughs, Kennedy, Chien M Wong, Joba who are some of their upcoming players



In fact, the way I look at it, in professional sports it's all about winning so do what you have to do.


No man, you are again mistaken....in MLB, its not always about wining for many ball clubs....for many of the other owners , its about pocketing as much of the revenues as they possibly could..........look at the case with toronto, trying to shop around 1 of the best pitchers (halladay) 1 yr before his contract runs out!........to me, that is an insult to the fan base!....a slap in the face of every fan who pays admission at the ball-park... and in the end they failed to make a deal!....and now they'll end losing him as a free agent!... this is but 1 example!



I think people who b1tch and complain about the way the Yankees stack their teams are just envious that their favourite team's owner does not do the same thing.


thats exactly right!........but what i'm talking about is the double-standard!....when the yanks bombed out last year....nobody was screaming about a salary cap, the haters were too busy laffing at the yanks.......citing their failed methodology....NOW that the yanks put together a solid team, the hypocrite haters come back outta the wood-work, screaming how unfair the system is!



He buys world championships.



No, he buys good quality players, in the HOPE of staying competitive...much like the Mets, Bsx have been doing!



And you know what? As a fan of the Yankees, you should rejoice in that.


we do!, and once in a while it brings us a championship!



Don't try to justify his actions by saying he makes the rest of the league better by doing what he does. Steinbrenner could not give a rat's a$$ about the rest of the league.


To say that the yanks don't care about the rest of the league is as foolish as saying that the US doesn't give a damn about every other country in this world!.......the fact is that MLB, needs the yanks as much as the Yanks need a healthy MLB!.



But saying that the Bo Sox are only as competitive as they are because the Yankees spend money is ridiculous.


not ridiculous at all....look at the AL central.........even Toronto would have come in first had they been in that group!



the Red Sox would suck. That can't be further from the truth.


It can't?...they sucked for nearly 80 yrs before J Henry took over in 2002...and then look what happened when they started spending some cash!
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However, for their fans to then throw other payrolls out as an example of how they are not the only ones “over spending” is stretching it a bit.


not stretching it at all, it is a FACT.........the thing that upsets us, is when hypocrisy takes a front seat in the arena......though other teams have not spent as much as the Yanks, When they win, you don't hear them (or their fans) whining about the yanks' payroll, do you!



However, I don’t care how you slice it there is a HUGE, HUGE difference between $201 plus mil and $122 plus mil. The next highest team isn’t even within the same price range as the Yankees


so what!!!!..........do hear the owners/fans complain when the yanks have to fork out $110 mil in penalties that gets distributed amongst the "lesser" (AKA.. "Cheap-azz") clubs...do you?



a bit of stretch for Yankees to be calling other teams‘ fans “bandwagoners” when they themselves only show their faces when they’ve got titles and hardware to show off. Giving further proof that they are fair weather “Yankee winning” fans.


R U....friggin delusional????..........Yank fans are the most loyal fans there are, you'll never see true yank fans jumping on other team's bandwagons....last year, we could care less about who won the WS!!!!..................................the stadium is nearly sold out every game.........even last year when we stunk!!!!...BUT we are also the MOST demanding.........we do not stand for mediocrity...so if that makes us "SHOW OFFS" then we'll take the label!



it’s just their ***hole fans. Fans that are simply only fans of the Yankees , not the sport or the game just the team.


if you had any real insight into how the yanks benefit the league, you wouldn't posting this kinda stupid schit that you do!............we are only fans of the Yankees and not the sport????...what the heck is that supposed to mean..........The Yanks pay more money into the "sport" than any other team in the league!!!!!



if Boston fans are sore losers then Yankees fans are sorry, ungracious, pompous winners.


.......Yeah, and every other team who has won besides the yanks, has been:....meek, humble and gracious about it, right!.........Maybe you should ask the Wiz to mail you some of his sour-grapes!!!
 Hawaiianluau

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Posted: 10/27/2009 2:17:17 AM

I don't see how the fact that the Angels played poorly makes the Yankees undeserving.
The Dodgers also played as poorly as I have seen them play all season, so maybe the World Series should be cancelled.


Good point. Score it.
Maybe my whole sub conscience point is
Screw all the talk.
BATTER UP SPORTS FANS !!!
 ratherBgolfing

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Posted: 10/27/2009 6:28:55 AM
But saying that the Bo Sox are only as competitive as they are because the Yankees spend money is ridiculous.
not ridiculous at all


Ahhhh.... so what you're saying is, if the Yankees had a $50M payroll, the Red Sox would be the worst team in baseball. Makes sense ... NOT


It can't?...they sucked for nearly 80 yrs before J Henry took over in 2002.

And the Yankees have been outspending other teams for how long?


To say that the yanks don't care about the rest of the league is as foolish as saying that the US doesn't give a damn about every other country in this world!...


Foolish? I'd have to say that's pretty damn accurate. The US does not care about any other country, only what their natural resources can do to make the US stronger. Yes, comparing the Yankees of baseball to the US of world econmomics is a pretty good analogy. You guys just retired a president who could not find Canada on a map for krist sake. AND YOU GAVE HIM A SECOND TERM!
Please, don't get me started on the US and its bid to buy the world.


Yank fans are the most loyal fans there are

Never hard to cheer for a winner. I'd have to say Red Sox fans are the most loyal. Like you said... they won nothing for 80 years... yet they were still there, game in, game out. (Incidentally, I am not a fan of either team, nor a hater of either team, so that's a completely objective comment)



now you are sounding as ignorant and bitter as the Wiz...i suppose that players such as Derek jeeter is not from the farm system, nor was Bernie Williams?

Not bitter at all. In fact, you just strengthened my argument. Yes, those two are from the Yankees system. That's not a lot over the cours eof the past two decades.
I think uou can add Robinson Cano to that list as well but are there any other starters for the Yankees that the Yankees actually groomed?
You can answer that better than I can. I seriously do not know. I know Jeter and I am pretty sure about Cano. That makes 2. That's not a whole lot of "grooming from within".

I admit I do not know the background of every Yankee on the post-season roster, but I am willing to bet both dimes I have, that their farm system graduate numbers come nowhere near their purchase of free agent numbers, when it comes to their starting lineup. Prove me wrong on that statement and I will say congratulations.



No, he buys good quality players, in the HOPE of staying competitive...much like the Mets, Bsx have been doing!

If "staying competitive" were Steinbrenner's main focus, Joe Torre would still be your manager. Steinbrenner wants World Series rings and nothing less than that is acceptable. Ever. To Steinbrenner, winning is the ONLY important thing. He'd b1tch-slap you himself (or more likely pay someone else to do it) if he ever heard you trying to place him in a different frame than that.
 blondblueyed

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not stretching it at all, it is a FACT.........the thing that upsets us, is when hypocrisy takes a front seat in the arena..


Hypocrisy? Where? What team (or their fans) spending in the range of $180-200 million are complaining? Oh, that’s right there is no other team that spends in that price range. The closest one is another NY team which was $138. In order to have hypocrisy you have to be pointing fingers at something that is at least close to be an equal situation. As I said, no matter how you slice it a difference of over 60 million is not the same situation.


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.though other teams have not spent as much as the Yanks, When they win, you don't hear them (or their fans) whining about the yanks' payroll, do you!


I don’t know where you’ve been but I hear it all the time and it has continued throughout the past decade even though the Yanks haven’t won a WS with that huge payroll. “The Yanks trying to buy another Championship”, …“Yankees always win with all that money” (that one‘s my favorite)………“No other teams have a chance, can’t spend like the Yankees”….any of it ring a bell?? I must be crazy because I distinctly remember ranting about these cave people right here in this very thread. Those that obviously haven’t been watching all the WS since 2000 when the Backs, Sox, Angels and several others teams not in NY were crowned WS Champions. Still, Yankees spending has been blasted every year anyway in blogs, boards, even by the media and of course it’s front and center now. You act surprised to still be hearing it. I am sick of it but not surprised.


do hear the owners/fans complain when the yanks have to fork out $110 mil in penalties that gets distributed amongst the "lesser" (AKA.. "Cheap-azz") clubs...do you?


Sure the owners take the money and the fans don’t really care where it comes from, most of them don’t even understand the revenue sharing process. If they did those actually associated with MLB, many players and even fans would not still be screaming for salary caps. If you ever hear those still screaming that MLB needs a salary caps that is an indirect complaint about the Yanks even with the penalties, because people don’t care or don’t understand it.


Yank fans are the most loyal fans there are, you'll never see true yank fans jumping on other team's bandwagons.…last year, we could care less about who won the WS!!!!


Exactly! A true baseball fan would care even if it the only teams still playing were the Schenectady Spittoons and the Lansing Lipspiddles.

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the stadium is nearly sold out every game.........even last year when we stunk!!!!

Sure, that’s why the seats were so sparse in September of last year because they go support the team no matter where they are in the standings. Those tickets might have been bought but once the Yanks were out of it no one bothered to go see them just to see them. My issue isn’t so much with fans not showing up the majority won’t if the team is truly bad or are pretty much out of the race, but if a fan is going to brag when I can see for myself it isn’t always true I’ll point it out. Sorry, but Yanks fans don’t hold a candle to Cubs or Cardinals fans, well no one does in my book but again maybe that’s just me.


if you had any real insight into how the yanks benefit the league, you wouldn't posting this kinda stupid schit that you do!


No where in that sentence you quoted did I say the Yankees team. Do you remember who you are ****ing talking to??? I am one of the main advocates for Yankees as far as what they mean to the league and other teams. Again, I didn’t say the team. Maybe you should learn to read.



..we are only fans of the Yankees and not the sport????...what the heck is that supposed to mean.


Yes, I said the fans, so I guess it’s just a selective reading problem. I already stated why, Yankee fans only care if the Yankees are winning and on top, just like the majority of other team fans, last years’ no shows in September are proof of it.


The Yanks pay more money into the "sport" than any other team in the league!!!!!


Yes, I know that, we all know that, are you trying to say that $201 million means their fans can’t be ***holes? Do the fans say to themselves, you know the Yanks spent a lot of money so even though they aren’t going to the WS this year we should go see them? NO! At least half of them found something else to do last September just like everybody else’s fans that were out of the running. If you are trying to say different then I beg to differ who is being delusional. Live cameras don’t lie. Perhaps is just that you don’t understand the difference between being a fan of the sport and a fan of a specific team or just a winning team. Don’t worry, a great majority of so called “sports fans” only bothers when their team is winning so those Yankee fans aren’t alone.


Yeah, and every other team who has won besides the yanks, has been:....meek, humble and gracious about it, right!.


Maybe it’s just me but I certainly don’t remember Yeswho and I coming in here and talking a lot of childish crap to each other last year. I don’t believe I have seen any of it this year from Yeswho either.


Maybe you should ask the Wiz to mail you some of his sour-grapes!!!


Don’t need any, I am still here watching no matter who is playing.
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Posted: 10/27/2009 5:02:18 PM
Yankees and Phillies should be a good world series. I would love to see this series go to game 7. I just don't want to see another blow out world series in which this prob wont' be considering how good both teams have been playing so far in the post season.
 sum1reel

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@Rather


Ahhhh.... so what you're saying is, if the Yankees had a $50M payroll, the Red Sox would be the worst team in baseball. Makes sense ... NOT


Don't be so short sighted man!...what i mean is that because the Yanks have spent as much as they have, they re-set the bar for success in the ALE......now this doesn't mean that any other team in that division can't win, if they don't spend as much...we've seen the Bsx have as much (if not more) success than the Yanks since 2002........ by just spending wiser!



And the Yankees have been outspending other teams for how long?


Weeeeell, lets see!......the Yanks didn't really outspend anybody prior to 1973 before the free-agent era (and NO, the Yanks didn't invent free-agency!!!!)......so in times prior to free-agency, the Yanks still saw considerable success!


Foolish? I'd have to say that's pretty damn accurate. The US does not care about any other country, only what their natural resources can do to make the US stronger. Yes, comparing the Yankees of baseball to the US of world econmomics is a pretty good analogy.


Sir, i'll have you know that Americans are the most generous pple in the world, we are the first to open up our wallets when calamity strikes world-wide......our organizations are quick to provide relief, technical assistence, etc..... be it natural disasters, wars, famine, etc...........our nation is the bread basket to the 3rd world (in terms of hunger relief and aid), yet you judge us by what some of our least capable politicians have been inclined to do in the political forum!..........your statement about how Natural resources of other countries "make the US stronger" only serves to show your ignorance!!!...please explain how our dependance on foreign petroleum has made the US "stronger"?????


You guys just retired a president who could not find Canada on a map for krist sake.


Uh-Hmmm......and you are inferring what?...that because GWB wasn't able to locate Canada on a map(if it is actually true), that it somehow reflects on our knowledge as a whole....is that what you are simplistic enuff to believe?


AND YOU GAVE HIM A SECOND TERM!


better to do that then to give the reigns over to someone who was even a bigger idiot!


Please, don't get me started on the US and its bid to buy the world.


don't worry pal...i won't shatter your illusions....just keep on hatin' on us!



I'd have to say Red Sox fans are the most loyal. Like you said... they won nothing for 80 years... yet they were still there, game in, game out.


this only proves that they are amongst the most "tolerant" fans...which stems from the fact that they had not been used to their team winning anything!



In fact, you just strengthened my argument. Yes, those two are from the Yankees system. That's not a lot over the cours eof the past two decades.
I think uou can add Robinson Cano to that list as well but are there any other starters for the Yankees that the Yankees actually groomed?
You can answer that better than I can. I seriously do not know.


If you "seriously do not know"...why go out on the limb trying to repudiate me, while making an azz of yourself in the process????..........................It just so happens that 56% of their present 25 man active roster...is comprised of players drawn from their farm system!!!...Believe it or not...That figure of 56% is the HIGHEST in the AL!!!!!...the only other team that has a higher number is the Colorado Rockies(in the NL) with 64%, which is the highest in MLB!!!!.
source: zellspinstripeblog.com/.../the-yanks-have-homegrown-players/


If "staying competitive" were Steinbrenner's main focus, Joe Torre would still be your manager.


Wrong again....if Stein's focus was always winning the WS, he woulda fired JT, right after the 1994 playoffs when the Bsx embarassed the yanks by coming back from a 3 game deficit......an event from which the yanks never recovered (mentally) until JT was let go!



Steinbrenner wants World Series rings and nothing less than that is acceptable. Ever. To Steinbrenner, winning is the ONLY important thing.


if it was that simple..... Stein woulda fired Brian cashman, immeditely after firing JT!
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In order to have hypocrisy you have to be pointing fingers at something that is at least close to be an equal situation.


what you fail to understand is that hypocrisy comes in many forms......those who've btiched about the yanks "buying" championships.....are the same ones who've mocked them when they bombed out......................the stark reality is: that it doesn't matter by HOW MUCH the yanks have outspent their nearest competitor, whether its by 60 mil, or by $600......Yankee haters would still find a reason to blast them in their times of glory, or to pizz on them in their times of mediocrity!


Sure the owners take the money and the fans don’t really care where it comes from, most of them don’t even understand the revenue sharing process. If they did those actually associated with MLB, many players and even fans would not still be screaming for salary caps. If you ever hear those still screaming that MLB needs a salary caps that is an indirect complaint about the Yanks even with the penalties, because people don’t care or don’t understand it.


Bingo, so we finally agree on something here.........and i'll go as far to say that its most of the owners (who really are the ones running MLB operations) who haven't wanted 'salary caps'.



I SAID:Yank fans are the most loyal fans there are, you'll never see true yank fans jumping on other team's bandwagons.…last year, we could care less about who won the WS!!!!

YOU SAID: Exactly! A true baseball fan would care


I never insinuated that (true) Yank fans didn't care to watch the WS itself...i merely said that most of us (yank fans) could care less about who the winner would be, as we do not jump on band-wagons................then you say that i can't read!!!!!!


Those tickets might have been bought but once the Yanks were out of it no one bothered to go see them just to see them. My issue isn’t so much with fans not showing up the majority won’t if the team is truly bad or are pretty much out of the race, but if a fan is going to brag when I can see for myself it isn’t always true I’ll point it out.


...by our ettiquette, we only "brag" when we have a successful season(as bragging rights are always earned), and that is defined by making it into the post-season...just having a winning record over .500 isn't good enuff for the typical fan..............thus it seems a bit bland to us, if you are measuring our loyalty......by the number of empty stadium seats in late Sept........so by your observations then i guess there is no such thing as fan loyalty anywhere (at a time when a team is outta the playoff picture)...or i guess that's just me seeing it that way!


Yes, I know that, we all know that, are you trying to say that $201 million means their fans can’t be ***holes? Do the fans say to themselves, you know the Yanks spent a lot of money so even though they aren’t going to the WS this year we should go see them? NO! At least half of them found something else to do last September just like everybody else’s fans that were out of the running.


so then you are saying we are azz-holes because we 'don't show up" at the ballpark when the team is outta the running?...........to me, the definition of an azz-hole fan, is the one(s) who open up their wallets to pay to watch their team play knowing that they have no chance at winning from the start!!!!........while the owners, sit back and rake in the distributions!!!.....I like baseball, but not the extent that i'll allow myself to be "had" by an ownership that doesn't care about putting a competitive team on the field.


Maybe it’s just me but I certainly don’t remember Yeswho and I coming in here and talking a lot of childish crap to each other last year.


....its otherwise called 'sports banter'......you should try it, it might lighten you up a bit!

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 blondblueyed

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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:41:03 AM

Yankee haters would still find a reason to blast them in their times of glory, or to pizz on them in their times of mediocrity!


Just exactly how is that any different than a Yankee fan coming in and pissing on everyone else in their times of glory or to blast the opposing teams fans with “we have 26, how many do you have???” Again, sore losers/pompous winners, it pretty much evens out around here.


i merely said that most of us (yank fans) could care less about who the winner would be,


You don’t insinuate, yet now you have said it TWICE!



by our ettiquette, we only "brag" when we have a successful season(as bragging rights are always earned),


I call BS! As I stated above Yankee fans don’t “brag” only when the Yanks are winning, they shove every title down everyone’s throats any chance they get no matter who has won. Hypocrisy takes many forms? Is that what you said?


so by your observations then i guess there is no such thing as fan loyalty anywhere (at a time when a team is outta the playoff picture)...or i guess that's just me seeing it that way!


Hmm, that reading thing again…….I said …
Don’t worry, a great majority of so called “sports fans” only bothers when their team is winning so those Yankee fans aren’t alone.




its otherwise called 'sports banter'..


Thought that was what we were doing.


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 sum1reel

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Just exactly how is that any different than a Yankee fan coming in and pissing on everyone else in their times of glory or to blast the opposing teams fans with “we have 26, how many do you have???”


believe it or not , yank fans do not INITIATE sports conversations/discussions with past victories.....the history lesson is brought up in situations when others attempt to bust (or denigrate) what the yanks have accomplished.



Yankee fans don’t “brag” only when the Yanks are winning, they shove every title down everyone’s throats any chance they get no matter who has won.


SEE ABOVE RESPONSE!.....


yet now you have said it TWICE!


Ahhh...it went over your head again....its that "reading thing" i suppose!.......
 ratherBgolfing

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the Yanks didn't really outspend anybody prior to 1973 before the free-agent era
I beg your pardon????
Babe Ruth was paid $80G per season in the 1930s... more than some teams' total payroll!!!!

If you "seriously do not know"...why go out on the limb trying to repudiate me, while making an azz of yourself in the process????

Making an azz of mnyself? By admitting I don't know and asking you for your help? Hmmm... how does that make me an azz? Doesn't, whatsoever. Sure makes YOU look like one, with your outrageously pompous response though.


It just so happens that 56% of their present 25 man active roster...is comprised of players drawn from their farm system!!!...Believe it or not...That figure of 56% is the HIGHEST in the AL!!!!!.



According to Rhett Bollinger of MLB.com (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090924&content_id=7141878&vkey=news_ana&fext=.jsp&c_id=ana) ... "The Angels are largely homegrown, with 22 of the 35 players on the active roster coming from the farm system."
That works out to over 62%. I think I'll take his word over your blogger's. Rhett is a journalist, as opposed to some homer pounding out propaganda from his basement.


this only proves that they are amongst the most "tolerant" fans...which stems from the fact that they had not been used to their team winning anything!

Oh my... what amazing spin talents you have


Wrong again....if Stein's focus was always winning the WS, he woulda fired JT, right after the 1994 playoffs when the Bsx embarassed the yanks by coming back from a 3 game deficit......an event from which the yanks never recovered (mentally) until JT was let go!


That's funny... I thought Torre was with the Cards in 1994. But hey. you're the genius.

as for

...an event from which the yanks never recovered (mentally) until JT was let go!


Please let me know if I am wrong (or somehow spin it if I am right), but did the Yankees not get back into the playoffs every year after that collapse (of 2004, incidentally, not 1994, as you so claim)? And did they not actually MISS THE PLAYOFFS the first year after Torre was ousted?
Hmmm. seems to me the team recovered rather quickly from that meltdown... more quickly than they recovered from Torre's departure.



Sir, i'll have you know that Americans are the most generous pple in the world, we are the first to open up our wallets when calamity strikes world-wide......our organizations are quick to provide relief, technical assistence, etc..... be it natural disasters, wars, famine, etc...........our nation is the bread basket to the 3rd world (in terms of hunger relief and aid), yet you judge us by what some of our least capable politicians have been inclined to do in the political forum!..........your statement about how Natural resources of other countries "make the US stronger" only serves to show your ignorance!!!...please explain how our dependance on foreign petroleum has made the US "stronger"?????


Your dependance on foreign petroleum is your Achilles heel.
My ignorance? Please. How about your inability to see the forest for the trees. The U.S.'s "generosity" is fuelled solely by its desire of a global empire. Read an economics book sometime.. one NOT written by****Cheney.


i won't shatter your illusions....just keep on hatin' on us!

My illusions? How about yours. As for "hatin on you", I don't "hate on anyone", but then again, 90% of the world can't be wrong
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 sum1reel

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Babe Ruth was paid $80G per season in the 1930s... more than some teams' total payroll!!!!


well gee, i guess that explains why the yanks won all their WS prior to 1976.......and i guess the reason why they didn't win anything between 1964 and 1976 is because they UNDER-paid the players



Hmmm... how does that make me an azz?


by heralding your response in saying "that only strengthens my argument".....what argument is that?.....the argument whose facts you know little of?...and then you call me pompous!!!!


I think I'll take his word over your blogger's


how about if i list them for you!... i may have left out 1- 2 others in the Bullpen

Coke
Pettite
Jeter
Posada
cano
Rivera
Joba C
Melky C
Gardner
Hughes
Robertson
Cervelli
Aceves (?)

Here you go!!!!...now don't let these facts confuse you, Pal!


I thought Torre was with the Cards in 1994. But hey. you're the genius


sorry, i meant 2004.....i didn't think it was that hard for you to figure out the typo-error!


but did the Yankees not get back into the playoffs every year after that collapse


yeah they did, but but what did they do, and how far did they go?


And did they not actually MISS THE PLAYOFFS the first year after Torre was ousted?


which was not unexpected, the team was being re-vamped!


seems to me the team recovered rather quickly from that meltdown


they didn't recover anything, they were on a slow downward spiral....JT had lost his touch with them, things had become too blase on that team!


Your dependance on foreign petroleum is your Achilles heel.
My ignorance? Please. How about your inability to see the forest for the trees.


what amazing side-stepping talents you have.............
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The yanks lost the opener!!!!.........rats, rats, raaaaaats!!!!!!

but i gotta hand it to the Phils.......they came to play!..Lee was superb!

The yanks need to kick it up a notch......i think they were a bit too relaxed from their AL win!



I mean lets say if in a totally hypothetical scenario, and offcourse this will NEVER happen, but lets say Mariano Rivera gave up a World Series winning homerun , can you see the Yankee fans stooping THAT low and threatening to kill him??????? Offcourse not!!!! Sure they would may get upset, but I'm sure the Yankee fans would not stoop that low like those Phillie fans did in 1993. Yankee fans seem to have more class.


I know what you are saying my friend!......but according to the "yankee haters" here, they believe that we are the ones who are crude, rude, and have no class......but we know better, the Philadelphia fans do not deserve to have a team like the Phils!
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Posted: 10/28/2009 8:51:04 PM

believe it or not , yank fans do not INITIATE sports conversations/discussions with past victories.....the history lesson is brought up in situations when others attempt to bust (or denigrate) what the yanks have accomplished.


Yea, right. I don’t know which is worst the BS you spread or the possibility that you actually think others might believe your BS.


Ahhh...it went over your head again.




.last year, we could care less about who won the WS!!!!
.i merely said that most of us (yank fans) could care less about who the winner would be


Hmm, seems to me and I am sure to everyone else that both of the above statements speak for themselves.


its that "reading thing" i suppose!


Yep, you should pick up a copy of “Hooked On Phonics“, would do you a world of good. Actually, you should get two copies in case the first one wears out.
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But they won't beautiful blondblueyes, they will not repeat like the Blue Jays did in 1992 and 1993


Well, they are certainly off to a good start.

Awesome pitching tonight by Cliff Lee! Kudos to Utley setting a ML record by reaching base safely in 26 consecutive post season games and 2 homers and Ibanez with 2 Rbi’s. It’s probably just me but I loooooooove the Ryan Howard scruff!
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It was all Lee and Utley. Wait till the rest o the team shows up lol.
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Posted: 10/28/2009 9:24:29 PM
Tonight the Phillies had the pitching advantage with Cliff Lee going the distance....I think the advantage goes the Yankees way with Burnett over Pedro tomorrow and should win game 2.
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Posted: 10/28/2009 9:25:02 PM

I don’t know which is worst


Neither one!.....the "worst" is the state of DENIAL that you are presently in!....


the above statements speak for themselves.


yep..... and you still don't get it!...keep reading it, maybe it will dawn on you!.....


you should pick up a copy of “Hooked On Phonics“,


thanks for the advice, and hopefully they'll send me a newer and updated version then the one they sent you!........cause evidently yours hasn't done squat-diddly for your skills!
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Posted: 10/28/2009 11:01:51 PM

squat-diddly


I don't think anyone here cares about your lack of "girth".
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Posted: 10/29/2009 6:15:16 AM
One down, three to go. Good job Phillies.
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