| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/9/2008 7:28:58 PM | Liberal media is Air America Radio, and Lou Dobbs on CNN. Various newspaper columnists can also be considered liberal, including Bob Herbert, an excellent columnist. Local weeklies such as the Valley Advocate also offer a liberal perspective.
On the conservative side there's Fox News, George Will and William Safire to name a couple of the more sensible conservative columnists offering their point of view. There are conservative columnists who are totally out of touch with reality: Cal Thomas, Thomas Sowell and Kathleen Parker to name a few.
So, there's a little bit of each out there. I read the editorials to get a variety of perspectives, although I have to admit tuning out the likes of Cal Thomas. I like mostly liberal media, but I will read the likes of George Will or William Safire for their points of view because they are more reasonable than the far-right columnists out there.
I do have to say that the media in general tends to be more conservative, however, because much of the media is now owned by large corporations, which support a more conservative point of view. | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/9/2008 7:37:43 PM | .
It means 2 sides that are totally opposed with each other where everything presented to us is biased filtered and often at best only half truths.
They do a great job promoting government as a football team, (hooray for our side) rather than deal with issues and other considerations.
They promote the 2 party corporate dictatorship rather than presenting all parties equally. (after al lthey did not invest in them with no bid contracts and special favors.
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/9/2008 8:47:35 PM | | Big business / Special interests lying to everyone through coerced media to control how the population thinks. They have done this for as long as we have been watching tv. Do any of us really even know what the truth is ? | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 11:24:17 AM | | Something really scary is going on when a life long Republican and paleocon like Lou Dobbs can be seriously called a ‘liberal.’ Have we really skewed so far to the right that extreme right wingers are considered left? I guess that puts our political spectrum from extreme right to lunatic right. | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 11:28:14 AM | There is no real left wing media in America anymore. At least not when it comes to major media outlets.
There still is the foreign press. They're less likely to being bullied into not running a story that does not serve American interests. | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 12:02:26 PM | Air America does this really weird thing where they actually use facts by reputable sources rather than spew vitriolic lies. They are also totally up front about being liberal which is more than Fox and company will tell you about their slant. I listen to whomever I can just to see what the spin for today is and out of everyone I check in with Air America by far has more credibility because of those fact things.....and they are way funneir than an overweight spud on oxycodone, and the best thing to happen to luffa sponges - O'Reiley.....
Thom Hartman is the best.....probably knows almost as much as the Canadians on here.... | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 12:41:19 PM |
are you just saying that HL or have you listened to Air America?
I can only handle Air America in 15 second chunks, anything else makes me nauseous.
To call media liberal or conservative is to openly admit a bias. I don't want to get my news from Fox News who are kissing conservative ass nor do I want to get my news from flower child and sucky comedian Janeane Garofalo. | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 12:58:45 PM | She hasn't been there in quite a while Thom Hartman may appeal more....less slapstick...
the thing is, does a person believe the people who are obviouse biased but tell you they aren't or the ones that are biased that tell you they are? I guess for some crazy reason I believe the person who is being honest up front with me.... | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 1:10:33 PM |
the thing is, does a person believe the people who are obviouse biased but tell you they aren't or the ones that are biased that tell you they are? I guess for some crazy reason I believe the person who is being honest up front with me....
Your worldview leaves no room for actual, honest journalistic integrity. | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 1:23:46 PM | | you people are so funny. the media is neither. there is no such thing anymore, as media which implies that they report news. the promote globalist propoganda as IF it was news. the put on the air of being slanted one way or the other, you could say fox are the cheer leaders of the NEO get that NEO conservative views and msnbc are the promoters of the so called liberal news. its blatantly obvious that the encspsulate the information i watch in hysteria. i say this and lets all get on the same page here. even if you are a staunch far left liberal, you must admit that there has never been a case in tv "news " history of an at times viable candidate such as ron paul being ignored, slandered, made the point of mockery. he was completely against everything that the world globalist/socialists/new world order advocates stand for and they did a hatchet job on him. to a lsser degree they did it to dennis kucinich (sp ). again they have you standing face to face as accsuing each other of being this or that and its none of it. one party, with two faces, propoganda arm operating as news/information outlet. simple package they sell year after year, election after election. and yet it seems people just cant seem to belive it is so. and even if people were to admit to this obvious joint effort, they would do nothing because they are stuarted with booze, porn,the cult of consumerism, me , mine , and dont give to shits about what this country was born out of or the millions who payed with their lives. americans today have to be the stupidest people on earth. and im one of them because i keep pointing out the design and like little kids they put their fingers in their ears and say na na na na .... | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 3:23:15 PM | | Of course it’s one voice; it’s a conservative voice, if you can’t see that you really aren’t paying attention. As for Ron Paul, he was treated no worse than anyone who strays outside the acceptable right wing matras. | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 5:10:31 PM | randy ~ you are fine ~ ~ lets get this out for all to see and understand ~ what we are dealing with here `
We've got a virus ~ among us ~ it's is during this ~ this discussion that we might be able it identify and locate the source. ~
Don't hold you feeling back ~ let it out ~ let it be known ~ the way you feel and "why"
Keep it coming ~ and thanks to all ! ~
By all means ~ read the complete thread ~ It's short! ~ there is much wisdom offered here ~ much insight ~ just bear in mind ~ the thread question ~ is "Bait".
many have addressed just "that" simple question ~ without benfit of reflection. ~ others have offered 60 years of media history and federal controlling laws and applied science to offer great insights ~ to a "not" so simple question ~ If you have responded on any level ~ you'd gain insight ~ reading the thread. ~dar
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 5:25:16 PM |
There are conservative columnists who are totally out of touch with reality: Cal Thomas, Thomas Sowell and Kathleen Parker to name a few.
Ditto. Several years ago I thought KT might see things my way so I emailed her. She wrote back a couple of times and seemed nice but I can no longer read her columns they tick me off so much. hehe. Cal Thomas missed his calling. He coulda made a fortune posing for casket makers. hehe.
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 8:32:31 PM |
i keep pointing out the design and like little kids they put their fingers in their ears and say na na na na ....
Yes everybody, thank god we have Randy13x69 to shed light on the new world order for us. | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/10/2008 10:03:21 PM |
Yes everybody, thank god we have Randy13x69 to shed light on the new world order for us.
Does everyone remember that age? Pimply face, " In College " know it all ism. Hang in there kid, your not alone in the "true beliver syndrome". Plenty of company in that dimensia. | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/11/2008 7:34:27 AM |
again they have you standing face to face as accsuing each other of being this or that and its none of it. one party, with two faces, propoganda arm operating as news/information outlet. simple package they sell year after year, election after election
Yep'er ~ thats the way it seems to work ~ and from this cauldering oozee comes forth the presidential hopful, ~ the last one standing and lest one beat up and nastyed by the account.
~dar | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/11/2008 9:22:44 AM | My two cents….
There is a distinct bias in news COMMENTARY, which sadly either doesn’t adequately identify itself as commentary, or people simply aren’t able to distinguish between actual news and personal opinions of political talk show hosts.
An example, after 5 minutes of Rush Limbaugh, you know he’s a conservative, representing the extreme social aspect of conservatism. If not by his position on issues then most definitely by his “Center for Conservative Studies” commercial break sign off. Neal Bortz tells people every hour that if they rely on him alone for a news source then they are sadly misinformed on issues because he only presents his perspective, that of a Libertarian Conservative. Likewise with Shawn Hannity, representing the extreme conservative aspect of social issues as well as a more than fair amount of religious perspective. I’ve had only limited experience with Air America since it is not as commercially viable, but after 5 minutes of Bush, Limbaugh and Hannity bashing by Jeanine Garaffalo, Randi Rhodes, or Jerry Springer it’s pretty obvious they are injecting an opposing or liberal opinion to the issues. NEITHER sect of the media is news, it is 100% POLITICAL COMMENTARY
Any segment of the media which categorizes itself as NEWS that reports a majority of stories with a negative bias towards conservative perspectives is liberally biased, conversely any organization which reports a majority of stories with a negative bias towards liberal perspectives is conservatively biased. News itself is not biased, it's the selection of the stories based on sensationalism and the injection of personal perspective of the "journalist" that creates bias.
To address the key issue of defining the difference between liberalism v. conservatism, there are several “good” definitions in the preceding pages, but to me the most credible (and simplistic) are based in social issues, or Government funded programs:
Conservative – Realist
I have noticed that the accepted definition of Conservatism is resistance to change. I can accept this in part for numerous reasons. Every new program undertaken by the federal government has a dismal record of success. When you consider half of the working people are pressed into service to fund Government Programs, then the changes that precipitated that need should have been resisted. (Tax freedom day in 1900 was January 22nd, last year it was April 30th, meaning middle and upper class (50%) had to work 120 days just to cover the cost of government and its programs that subsidize the remaining 50%, or lower class that do not pay income tax and / or receive EIC, Welfare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, HUD, WIC, etc...) When income taxes were initially conceived, the tax burden of the average American worker was less than 6% of their total income; the progressive ”changes” have increased the burden to a whopping all time high of 34% in 2000 and now the 33% it was last year.
Liberal – Idealist
To me it means someone who believes all should be forced by legal obligation to reach out and provide aid to their fellow man. While it is certainly noble in concept, it clearly falls short in the execution when managed by the federal government. We have the same percentage of poor now as existed at the turn of the 20th century. To me that means that for over 100 years we have paid more to government for the sake of growing government, not to improve the lives of our citizens. The system of tax funded social welfare isn’t necessarily broke, because it never actually worked to begin with.
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/11/2008 9:36:09 AM | the thing to keep in mind, many mediums of news have but one goal--to turn a profit.
They make a little thru subscription rates, but they get most thru advertising dollars. So, whatever they can do to "get eyes", allows them to increase the rates they charge to put an ad into their medium--under the assumption that more people are looking at them, than at the competition.
So, they will do what gets your attention. Whether its hitting your emotional buttons, or being critical enough to get you agitated to come back to see who writes in--or talking about them, giving them word of mouth-- ,or digging up scandal, or following a, "if it bleeds, it leads" operating procedure.
In the end, tho, they won't really hurt the leaders of the country. why? b/c being allowed behind the scenes to get the "real story", is far cheaper to the overhead cost of running that medium. To annoy Washington D.C. is to get cut off, and thus have to pay extra to do research, rather than be spoon-fed. to dig around thru the garbage cans in the back, compared to walking thru the front door. Investigative journalism costs money, which is why some stories get cut. they may be good, but if they won't bring eyes to the front page, they don't help the advertising budget make up for the cost of the investigation.
In a country that supports freedom of speech, the concept of a "liberal press" is like an oxymoron. A "no-duh". Having a lapdog media, is like having public TV without the public paying for it. We have that right now, and Newt wasn't much of a fan for it, so what media do we really want? | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/11/2008 10:56:49 AM |
Does everyone remember that age? Pimply face, " In College " know it all ism. Hang in there kid, your not alone in the "true beliver syndrome". Plenty of company in that dimensia.
It doesn't take a college education to point out that you misspelled 'believer' and 'dementia'.
But regardless, that's the best you can come up with? Yes, I'm young. Now defend your argument. | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/11/2008 1:22:38 PM | Not now Havey ~ let it rest ~
opinions are not arguements ~
If you care offer an opposing view ~ please ~ we'd enjoy reading it.
there's no points off for misspells or diction errors here ~
convince and amuse us with the message ~ ~
we can all overlook and ingore ~ sometimes thats the best way to react
respectfully ~ dar | |
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| What does the term Liberal Media mean to you
Posted: 3/11/2008 1:24:46 PM |
Not now Havey ~ let it rest ~
opinions are not arguements ~
If you care offer an opposing view ~ please ~ we'd enjoy reading it.
there's no points off for misspells or diction errors here ~
convince and amuse us with the message ~ respectfully ~ dar
I have offered my opinion and I won't be silent when I see some nutjob going on and on about the new world order and claiming that he knows the real truth. | |
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