| MLS expansion - Philadelphia 16th team
Posted: 3/27/2008 10:25:20 AM | Montreal 's making serious inquiries for a MLS franchise . Saputo group has a SSS already at 13,000 capacity and can boost to 20,000 . Stade Saputo will also host 2 games of the CONCACAF champions league qualifiers , featuring Toronto FC , Montreal Impact and Vancouver Whitecaps .
Sounds like Don Garber wants 20 teams in place by 2012. | |
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| MLS expansion - Philadelphia 16th team
Posted: 3/27/2008 12:20:51 PM | who is Pepe? please enlighten me
i already have said many a time that football has got many more people amongst kids and teenagers than baseball and american football.
some year ago i read an interesting american article, it said that nowadays in USA most children and teenagers play football at school and universities, that there are more football pitches than baseball's and american football's.
it also said that baseball is in decline and slowly dying amongst children and teenagers. and that is a fact!
the problem is those children and teenagers leave football behind when becoming adult, for they do not get brilliant matches on their TV's. let us be honest, the level of MLS is poor if compared to any European league.
by the way, MLS should have many more clubs, at least 20 clubs or one per big city. it would be more interesting. and of course they should change their rules. i think that they have a 'conference system', don't they? where the winner of a conference faces the other conference's winner. well that is ridiculous and unfair! all clubs must face one another at home and away, and at the end of all the club with more points is the winner of the league. the only fair system to be a real champion
finally, what the hell is MISL? | |
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| MLS expansion - Philadelphia 16th team
Posted: 3/27/2008 12:43:39 PM | yup , MLS does have the conference style competition , East vs West , however , once it gets to 20 teams , i think we'll see a change to a one table system .
In my case , I got hooked on soccer during the 98 and 02 world cups , and started watching all the major leagues on satellite dish . Every weekend , now , the tv's on Setanta or Fox Soccer or Gol-Tv ..catching the EPL or Serie A or La Liga .
LOL@MISL ..indoor soccer league .. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2008 1:07:45 PM | Yes , I agree , better to have a table system , plus MLS keeps tweaking the playoff format every year too ,
here's a link to check it out if you want
http://web.mlsnet.com/index.jsp | |
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Posted: 3/27/2008 1:12:14 PM | "some year ago i read an interesting american article, it said that nowadays in USA most children and teenagers play football at school and universities, that there are more football pitches than baseball's and american football's"
Let me guess, you wrote it and then you read it. I get it know....You so smart that you should just respond to your own posts. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2008 1:17:54 PM | Yes, soccer has more youths playing it compared to baseball, hockey and football.
I don't agree with the conference system but I do understand it. North America is quite large. Having conferences eases the amount of travelling involved. Americans are used to conferences, the other sports utilize it in their leagues.
Don't laugh at the MISL. One of the biggest complaints that americans have with soccer is that it is boring and slow with not a lot of scoring. Indoor Soccer addresses that. It combines soccer with hockey. Have you ever played indoor soccer? It is a lot of fun so don't poo-poo it. Anything that increases interest in the game in NA is a good thing. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2008 1:43:33 PM | | Have you seen Fox SoccerReport? It's good, the anchors are quite amusing, especially Bobby. The Footy Show on Score is ok, Brian Budd is such a doofus. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2008 5:30:30 PM | | yup , watch the Soccer report most nights and especially the EPL preview and review shows . Haven't seen the Footy Show for a bit , star choice is down , James Sharman is a pretty decent host , shame they're losing Paul James . | |
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Posted: 3/27/2008 6:12:35 PM | | Pedro, the reason children play soccer in North America is because when children are young they don't have the coordination and skill to play complicated sports like tennis, golf, baseball or hockey. Soccer requires less skill than many sports and as children grow they graduate to higher skilled games. This is no disrespect to soccer. It does require some skill, for kids it's easier to run and kick than to hit a tennis ball, hit a baseball or skate and shoot in hockey. I'm not sure if soccer will ever catch on here in North America. I think the biggest problem is the lack of scoring. There are far too many games when the final score is 1-0. To watch or play a game for 90 minutes and see only one goal is boring. | |
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Posted: 3/28/2008 6:51:03 AM |
Pedro, the reason children play soccer in North America is because when children are young they don't have the coordination and skill to play complicated sports like tennis, golf, baseball or hockey. Soccer requires less skill than many sports and as children grow they graduate to higher skilled games. This is no disrespect to soccer. It does require some skill, for kids it's easier to run and kick than to hit a tennis ball, hit a baseball or skate and shoot in hockey.
 That is the dumbest thing I've heard in quite a while. Soccer requires full body coordination, especially foot-eye coordination. The others' are mostly hand-eye coordination which is easier. Hockey is the only one that is comparable, due to the coordination and balance required for skating. | |
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Posted: 3/28/2008 7:05:49 AM | Forgot to say that parents get their children into soccer because it is cheap compared to most sports. All you need is a pair of shoes and shinpads. Minimal equipment equals minimal expense. | |
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Posted: 3/28/2008 7:38:56 AM | | I don't think that's dumb at all. Of course soccer requires lots of skill and coordination when played well. But any 2 yr old can walk and kick a ball. To hit something or catch or throw a ball is MUCH harder and takes many more years to develop. | |
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Posted: 3/28/2008 7:38:59 AM |
Forgot to say that parents get their children into soccer because it is cheap compared to most sports. All you need is a pair of shoes and shinpads. Minimal equipment equals minimal expense.
Your right and so is pickymynose....Don't know why you consider it a dumb post. | |
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Posted: 3/28/2008 9:01:21 AM |
I don't think that's dumb at all. Of course soccer requires lots of skill and coordination when played well. But any 2 yr old can walk and kick a ball. To hit something or catch or throw a ball is MUCH harder and takes many more years to develop.
You just said it yourself. Any 2 yr old can kick a ball. Any 2 yr old CAN throw a ball or catch a ball or hit something. But there is a difference between kicking, hitting, throwing or catching something and the skill and coordination to do those things in a sport. I'm saying that sports that require full body coordination are harder than those that do not. Sports that are full body include soccer, hockey and basketball. Sports like tennis, golf, baseball and football, unless you are a punter or kicker, are mostly hand-eye, or upper body. It's easier to develop skill in something if it doesn't require as many things to coordinate together. Now, as you develop and grow into a sport you will learn and incorporate more areas of the body to optimize yourself. Highly skilled athletes in any sport will coordinate their full bodies, but sports like soccer, hockey and basketball require it alot sooner. | |
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Posted: 3/28/2008 1:19:01 PM | at wizard,
so are you suggesting that i am a liar? go and have a shower! the article i talked about is real, just like most kids play football right now, and that baseball is in decline amongst them.
at pickmynose,
so you think football is boring because of the low scoring? well i have talked about it many a time (it seems no-one understands the kind of English i use). it is not really low scoring but one goal is just one goal, or two goals are just two goals. in NFL the scoring is higher because one touchdown counts for 6 or 7 points, etc so if you get only two touchdowns you end up with 12 or 14 points! so stop complaining about that poor excuse of the 'low scoring'
by the way, let me tell you that sometimes matches with few goals or even drawing are more interesting than a match with many goals (usually you will not see many goals during a match with two strong and great teams, whereas a match with one great team facing a f.ucking and poor team will have many goals....................)
at goodguy,
you say "any 2 year old can walk and kick a ball" well your comment is quite ridiculous and makes no sense. and i would add that you know nothing about the sport. it takes years to develop the skills to kick a corner or free kick properly like David Beckham, etc. are you able to kick and place the ball in the net close to the posts or between the corners of the net? will you be able to catch a ball being a goalkeeper?
if football were so easy as you state, then eveyrone would be a star, and there will not be any Pele, Maradona, etc
and finally, that bloody thing called MISL sounds riciculous! i have never watched it nor do i want to. | |
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Posted: 3/28/2008 5:54:40 PM | | Pedro in football (NFL) the average final score is 35-28. Each score (crossing the oppositions goal line also known as a touchdown is worth 7 points. Do the math where in soccer terms a goal is worth 1 point,35=5 and 28 = 4. The score would be 5-4. How many soccer games have a final score of 5-4? The answer is not many. A final of 1 -0 in soccer is = to a final of 7-0 in NFL. Most NFL fans would say a final of 7-0 is too low scoring and boring. Do you get it now? | |
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Posted: 3/28/2008 6:55:22 PM | go and have a shower!
Is that a saying used in Spain? Here in a America we use terms like "Take a hike" or "Go fly a kite" and so on....
in NFL the scoring is higher because one touchdown counts for 6 or 7 points, etc so if you get only two touchdowns you end up with 12 or 14 points! so stop complaining about that poor excuse of the 'low scoring'
Very bad example....You should never talk about something you don't know. | |
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Posted: 3/30/2008 1:16:23 PM | to pickmynose
The first part of your message is fine, but the bit about scoring is way off. You are completely wrong about that. Thats the problem with americans, you look only at the scoreline and expect it to tell you the whole story. 1-0 may not sound like a thrilling score to a yank, but if you'd actually seen the game and watched how many times someone's come close to scoring, had a goal disallowed, send-offs, shoving matches, great saves, terrible refereeing and so on, then 1-0 wouldn't do the game justice at all. So you are utterly wrong about soccer being a boring sport. Try watching other leagues and you'll see there are more scores than just 1-0. | |
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Posted: 3/30/2008 1:52:25 PM | Toronto FC fans head to Columbus Ohio en masse for the 2008 opening game , 2500 fans show up at Crew Stadium ,
Here 's a quote from Today's Toronto Sun :
Soccer analyst and head of the York University soccer program, Paul James isn't surprised by the enthusiastic support.
"It's going to just get bigger and better." James said. "I can see the day when we'll end up taking 5,000 fans to stadiums."
But on a larger scale, James believes the passion and commitment of TFC fans could revolutionize the way North American sport is followed.
"It has got a chance of changing the sports fan. What European and Latin American soccer means in terms of the support is legitimately being replicated here."
And to fans like Matthew Patryluk, the motive for being apart of the travelling fan experience is simple.
"It's all about the soccer," Patryluk said. "I went to six games at the last World Cup and the fan support here is every bit as passionate as the fans from Argentina and Germany. It's bone-chilling."
http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/OtherSports/2008/03/30/5143051-sun.html | |
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Posted: 3/30/2008 2:01:16 PM | the real reason why north americans do not like football is because they always have treated it as a 'foreign sport'. the so called excuse of 'low scoring' is just lame and poor.
by the way, i have never understood why they give a touchdown 7 points or a field goal 2 or 3. i mean, if someone gets 1 touchdown or 1 field goal, it means he reached the line 1 1 time or kicked the ball 1 time to score. so it would be better and fairer if a field goal counted for 1 point or goal, and 1 touchdown for 1 as well.
1 touchdown counting for 7 points sounds as if the player had scored 7 times | |
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Posted: 3/30/2008 2:54:05 PM |
by the way, i have never understood why they give a touchdown 7 points or a field goal 2 or 3. i mean, if someone gets 1 touchdown or 1 field goal, it means he reached the line 1 1 time or kicked the ball 1 time to score. so it would be better and fairer if a field goal counted for 1 point or goal, and 1 touchdown for 1 as well.
But then it gives no incentive to actually get in the endzone. Just get close enough to kick a field goal. That makes no sense. | |
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Posted: 3/30/2008 8:40:19 PM | Pedro I will try to hold your hand and walk you through American Football. I have read many of your posts about us Americans and Protective Padding and why helmets to many times. But being you seem to have a problem with any score that does not equal one per score. I am willing to explain as best as I can. I know our sport came from your sport so you win. OK It gets hard for you to grasp the understanding of our sport here in America so here is my best scenario.
The goal in American Football is to pass into the end zone while having the football in your hands with out being forced to the ground. Each end zone is a hundred yards away from the other end zone. If you carry the ball over the line you get 6 points witch is called a touchdown. You have two options either run it in again and get 2 more points or kick a field goal and get 1 point. Which it is common to do that and the easiest so 7 points would be the answer for most couches and teams to do. Now if you are trying to get the touch down and you seem to not be able to make it in the 4 downs that you do get for every ten yards. You can kick a field goal for 3 points. Watch a game you might like it next season. Or I am sure you could rent a tape like the road to the Superbowl.
Pedro scratching his head? To confusing? I thought so | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 7:31:59 AM | | I agree with Pedro tho, multiple points for one goal is ridiculous and I think that's what he's getting at. Its just so......american? | |
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