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 Author Thread: Gun Control
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 51
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Re: Gun Control
Posted: 10/10/2004 10:39:58 PM
Right on, danyalone.

Taking our rights away, so they can tax us by piling an endless bureaucracy on top of it.
 Modern-Day Romeo

Joined: 9/1/2004
Msg: 52
Re: Gun Control
Posted: 10/15/2004 7:22:03 AM
hmm... it seems like the gist of the anti-gun arguments are b/c u can easily kill someone. OK I know AT LEAST 10 ways to kill someone with notheing more harmful than an icesicle. Take one & jam it into someones skull (pick an opening) & it's just as effective as a knife or gun or whatever. BUT, HERE"S THE THING, I DON'T DO IT!!!! Why, b/c I'm not some raving homicidal lunatic. I was brought up w/ a love for ALL life!!! I have no desire to kill anyone. but, if the need arises (& I hope it never does)I know how to defend myself.

I have some sad news if u think that banning guns will even remotely reduce the number of homicides. People who want to find something, WILL FIND IT!!! no "ifs" "ands" or "buts" about it. Assult rifles are officially banned in the US. Do people still have them? YES. Are they easy to obtain? Most Certainly.

Mull this over for a bit. The nearest police to where I live is 10 miles. Due to the quality of the roads the trip is impossible to make in less than 6 minutes. If an armed intruder breaks into my residence & tries to kill me should I sit back & let them do it or shoot back? I'll return fire EVERY time!!! Call me evil or wicked or whatever u like but, I enjoy life too much to have severly decreased chances of survival b/c I have to fight an illeagal gun with a kitchen knife or non-effective pepper spray.

Certainly there are a lot of people who should not have access to plastic knives let alone firearms but an outright ban is stupidity of the highest order.

BTW, if anyone does try to break in on me the first thing they'll see is a 130gr broadhead flying from my bow to thier thigh or abdomen. The next thing is a Ruger .44 Redhawk held to thier temple whilst I call the police & an ambulance. Like I said, I don't want to KILL anyone. I'd rather make them rot in a d@mn prison cell!
 Orgasmitron

Joined: 9/26/2004
Msg: 53
Gun Control,is what the government instutes just before they Bus you of to The Camps.../-;
Posted: 10/16/2004 3:07:15 PM
A Gun is a Tool,if you had any clue's as to agendas in motion right now,then you would rush out and buy a gun...*J*

But it is Too Late,because The Government Clamp has been set,oh you can stil go out and buy a gun but your name,address,phone number,drives licence No.and SSI are required, if gun's are banned then the police will come to your home and take your gun...*J*

As far as gun's being used to kill people???

If someone wants someone else dead,then they will kill them...*J*

In Bosnia before they had Gun's they would kill each other with ballpien Hammers,Pitch Forkes,Butch Knives,anything they could find was a potential weapon...*J*

The reason why " We The People " are allowed to have and bear arm's is that We are America's Defenders, not the Governments Military...*J*

A very intresting thing happened in The Philippines in resent years,
The Philippine President had been abusing his powers,he was suspected of Plundering The Treasury,he had been selling that which did not belong to The Philippine Government,he had been talking a chunk of the ransum money,from the Kidnappers, who had been kidnapping forigners and demandng $40,000000.00 ransum's...(-;


So The Filipino People Took it to The Street's,the staged a national strike, ( NOTHING MOVED ) 250,000
Protestors desended on The Presidential Palice in Manila...*J*


The Philippine Defense Forces surrounded The Palice, as thing became very tense,The Philippine President stepped out on a balcony and gave the order for the commanding general to open up on the crowd and kill the all...*J*


An order was given,all the millitary equipment prepared to fire!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,Then every Gun there turned and pointed at The Philippine Presidend and the commanding general informed The Philippine President that there were 2 helecopters waiting out back to take him and his family to the airport,where 2 Philippine Airlines 747 were wating to take The Philippine President and his family
to any country,that they choose...(-;


The Philippine people on that day were acting Like True Americans and they took back their country,as should we...(-;

If people don't secure their weapons, properly educate their kid's about the responsabilities of fire arms,or are unbalanced emotionally, then stuff happens and people die...*J*


BUT DISARMING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS NOT THE WAY TO PEACE,TRUTH IN OUR AMERICAN GOVERMENT IS WHERE WE HAVE TO START,THEN JUST AS BEFORE (BUSH) COMMERCE AND INTERNATIONAL TRADE IS THE WAY TO PEACE,TRADING PARTNERS DON"T KILL EACHOTHER

( DICTATERS DO )
 guitarman100

Joined: 8/25/2004
Msg: 54
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Re: Gun Control
Posted: 10/16/2004 3:09:56 PM
NOT ME MAN

-i saw all the Bruce lee movies and I learned a thing or two

-I think my kieeeeii !!!
and intense look would kill a few of them (lol)
 ExplorerMedic

Joined: 9/17/2004
Msg: 55
Re: Gun Control
Posted: 10/16/2004 3:19:55 PM
G'tar man-- US ARMY LEAVENWORTH reported 90% of RUSSIAN armor was KNOCKED-OUT with HUNTER-KILLERS using MOLOTOV COCKTAILS in Chechnya. POP-GUN firearms is SMOKE AND MIRRORS 2 AMENDMENT. OVEN CLEANER defeats body armor and support KNOCKS-OUT SWAT sniper... What'dya'think, bro ? I believe PEACE through CHRIST is the way to GO ! I have seen FIRST HAND YHWH through Christ lay waste to CONUS LEO's BIG BROTHER and other MURDERERs AND sinful civies--ME INCLUDED :-) . I may still be able to introduce you to a BATF buddy that was capped by a BAD COP... LOL :-) 5 times ! BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG-- and the last cap was into a grounded combat decorated military veteran BATF agent body just for FUN ! BANG ! Bad Cops... LOL. :-)
 guitarman100

Joined: 8/25/2004
Msg: 56
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Re: Gun Control
Posted: 10/16/2004 10:16:49 PM
^^^^^^^SORRY, I TRIED TO UNDERSTAND YOUR POST.
BUT ,IT IS MISSING .............WORDS AND COMPLETE SENTENCES..............ie--->WHAT ???
 landshark75

Joined: 10/3/2004
Msg: 57
Gun Control
Posted: 10/17/2004 11:00:01 PM
I did not finish reading your ignorance of a statement, as soon as I read guns being the most evil thing in the world thats when I stopped.
The biggest evil in this world is Man/Woman, also can be the opposite as well, knowing this you need to protect against the evil side, which, on this planet will allways be, now if that gun is in a evil humans hand evil will happen and that gun will help the evil doer accomplish this, now if that same gun is in the opposite of the evil doer, legitimate, honest person, that gun could very possibly be used to save a life, save a person from being a victim, or it will simply not be used.
Evil is in the mind of the beholder, a gun will do absolutly nothing on its own.
 yna6

Joined: 5/2/2004
Msg: 58
Gun Control
Posted: 10/18/2004 9:12:35 AM
peace through superior fire-power.

in order to have peace, prepare for war...old Roman saying...and when they forgot that, their empire went the way of the dinosaur...
 femmeinin

Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 59
Gun Control
Posted: 10/18/2004 8:32:04 PM
usually the only people that own guns are the ones that are going to commit crimes with them. and people who have guns in their houses for self defence, 9 times out of 10 the gun ends up in an accident where someone is hurt or killed by mistake, or the gun gets used against them in a crime. not many people are actually trained to shoot a gun, so using it for self defence is pointless.

if you're going to own a gun for hunting purposes, fine, keep it locked up and unloaded. but there is no reason in this day and age for someone to own a gun designed to kill PEOPLE.
 yna6

Joined: 5/2/2004
Msg: 60
Gun Control
Posted: 10/18/2004 11:50:23 PM
Your figures are off there....there are many responsible gun owners out there who don't have "accidents". Nor does a gun get used against them in a crime...they are using it. Self defense is NOT pointless....there is a lot of bad ppl out there....and when they violate your home, such as what happened to one poster on this site...you can bet they wisjhed they had a gun available. Sorry to disagree with you so much. It would be nice if guns for hunting were all the public wee allowed, but it isn't the case.

A more real scenario, and this is NOW happening, is to hold the gun manufacturers responsible. Tell me why ANY gun manufacturer has to make so many handguns in a year? They KNOW they are going out to the streets where they are used in criminal offenses. So hold them liable...which is what one court in the US has already done.
 ExplorerMedic

Joined: 10/17/2004
Msg: 61
Gun Control
Posted: 10/19/2004 9:03:48 AM
THAT is PURE FEMINAZI sheeple BUNK ! femmeinin, in my opinion. Lon Horiuchi West Point FBI HRT Sniper and the US Lady POLICEMAN that shot my paratrooper BATF buddy five times LOVES your kind of talk. NKVD, STASI, and Red Chinese love it too. and I respect your LIBERTY. I'll keep my Oven Cleaner, rocks, Molotov Cocktails, home made napalm, and whatever battle capture I can turn on the enemy if the need be from Nuclear missiles to jets and gasoline tanker 18 wheelers ! LOL. History is full of dead jews, gypsies, and Christians and I WILL turn the other cheek, but I will keep my sword. May God Himself chase the wicked on and make their way slippery and dark and shatter the teeth of evil. Hooo-ahhhhh !
 femmeinin

Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 62
Gun Control
Posted: 10/19/2004 1:16:30 PM
ladies and gentlemen, this is the kind of people that own guns. ^

be afraid. be very afraid.
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 63
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Gun Control
Posted: 10/19/2004 2:59:05 PM
I doubt I'd be worried even if ExplorerMedic had a loaded gun anywhere near me.
He knows his stuff!
 ExplorerMedic

Joined: 10/17/2004
Msg: 64
Gun Control
Posted: 10/19/2004 4:06:49 PM
Just for the RECORD, RIDE. I AM UNARMED. You may confirm this with the Chief of Police in Tucson Arizona. And that includes events during which I searched for US MEDICAL MIA's.

PS-- I hate to pop your femin-NAZI bubble Lady, but I'm unarmed. I'm a LOVER not a FIGHTER. I'm a Combat Medic. I do PROTECT my wounded. I'd rather cure HIV+ than kill.
 boredcountryboy

Joined: 9/4/2004
Msg: 65
Gun Control
Posted: 10/19/2004 4:55:22 PM
i didnt read a lot of the post here but its a topic i can spend hours on....

quickly my two cents go like this. I am for very limited gun control.... i like registering, dont think there is much need for automatics, etc. I do believe in the right for people to own guns. It is not the guns we need to control... more like all these dumbass people who let their kids run wild and free that eventually end up shooting someone.... banning guns will never really have much affect on crime because why would a law saying no guns stop someone about to rob a bank?? just think how easy it is to get something like pot which is illegal, guns would be no different. You'd take away many responsible peoples hobbies and jobs and such for the sake of what i see to be an extremely minimal impact on a bad thing.

and just to add a little credibility to my pro gun opinion, yes i have been threatened with a loaded gun more than once..... and no i have never even thought of pointing a loaded weapon at another person.
 ExplorerMedic

Joined: 10/17/2004
Msg: 66
Gun Control
Posted: 10/19/2004 5:43:28 PM
boredcountryboy, WELL SAID ! I've been threatened with sledge hammers,cars, machinegun, fists, feet. The WEAPON is not the problem. The problem is an EVIL person. A bank robber could do better with some ground-up hot chili peppers, one gallon of gasoline, some Tide detergent, glass bottles, rags, and fire than a fire arm. GUN CONTROL is about PDD 25. Disarming the US NATION STATE of a SOVEREIGN MILITARY and giving a GLOBAL ENTITY a MILITARY. The U.S. has already signed PDD 25. Very well intentioned IGNORANT people understand this issue as if they were TAIL GATING in TRAFFIC. They fail to see the END GAME. They will lose their LIBERTY. They will die as Armenians or homosexuals in concentration camps or be fed feet first into industrial paper shredders as happened in Iraq. The ignorant people should educate themselves. Brigadier General Knight, Sager, and New will help them for free if they'll just surf the net. A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE, but some people are just stupid.
 femmeinin

Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 67
Gun Control
Posted: 10/20/2004 12:04:38 AM
I fail to see how being an advocate for the total abolishment of weapons makes me a nazi. I think you need to read up on your history.
 boredcountryboy

Joined: 9/4/2004
Msg: 68
Gun Control
Posted: 10/20/2004 7:38:18 AM
lol... dont associate what i said with some of the other things posted by others, i might be against total gun control but some take it past logical....... Femmeinin, think it would be fun to talk with ya on this issue but in a more friendly environment ;)
 boredcountryboy

Joined: 9/4/2004
Msg: 69
Gun Control
Posted: 10/20/2004 8:05:04 AM
was reading through previous post and it seems a lot of anti gun people refer to basically only handguns? which are used in most crimes..... so i am guessing a lot of it is based purely on what they see and hear from the news and such. you gotta realize there is a whole world of competetive shooting sports, hunting, just plain plinking with family and freinds, varmit control on the farm, etc etc..... yes people get guns and kill each other... but do you ever watch those real life cop shows with shoot outs and such? notice how many shots are fired? those are people with little to no gun knowledge.... those of us who responsibly own guns and have been taught the proper way to treat them (and other people) simply arent the ones out "capping" people because we're a little pissed off. and we will be the only ones to actually loose the guns with total gun control. the bad people dont bother with registering their stolen guns now so what makes you think they'd hand them over and better yet never have another!?

i will agree... a gun is a very unlikely source for self defence unless you regularly train (like weekly) and carry it on you at all times etc.... but i also think carrying a gun as a private everyday person may only invite more serious injuries in the more common non lethal crimes.... before i get jumped for that one, of course i dont want anyone to be mugged, beaten, or raped etc.... just think if you start waving a gun around it may cause the victim a higher risk of being more seriously injured or killed than otherwise... if the attacker is the one injured great but they have the element of surprise in there attack and we all know that is a huge advantage in any battle wether its one on one or entire armies......

education is the answer, not gun control.
 femmeinin

Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 70
Gun Control
Posted: 10/20/2004 11:02:08 AM
this is why I'm saying guns for hunting...fine, keep them locked up except for hunting etc. but personal handguns? there's no need for these in society. they shouldn't even be manufactured, nevermind sold. sure, you could get them on the black market for some time, but eventually it would become like cars in cuba.... rare because there are no new ones being brought over, and difficult to get.

did you hear on the news about the guy who won the 80 million dollar lottery, only to be shot by cops the next day when he tried to break up a fight outside the stadium by SHOOTING A GUN? what an idiot.
 femmeinin

Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 71
Gun Control
Posted: 10/20/2004 11:03:54 AM
oh and anyone who tries the "well the guns used for hunting may be used by criminals" argument, I would have to say it's significantly harder to disguise a rifle than a handgun.
 boredcountryboy

Joined: 9/4/2004
Msg: 72
Gun Control
Posted: 10/20/2004 12:01:25 PM
true... i dont and wont own a handgun, but to play devils advocate i know people wh hunt with handguns? and how about shot guns... pretty good choice for robberies and duck hunting?

intellegent girl you are! ;)
 femmeinin

Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 73
Gun Control
Posted: 10/20/2004 1:06:43 PM
intelligent, maybe.

opinionated b*tch... definately! :D
 ExplorerMedic

Joined: 10/17/2004
Msg: 74
Gun Control
Posted: 10/20/2004 6:46:33 PM
Pending US GUN CONTROL ligislation is based almost word for word upon NAZI law. You may verify this with the rabi at JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARM OWNERSHIP. I think they have some fun reading called Grandpa Jack.

PS-- NAZI's have been my PERSONAL friends. I once passed on the opportunity to have the decorations of Ritter Hans Ulrich Rudel. NAZI's hate citizen private firearm ownership...
 femmeinin

Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 75
Gun Control
Posted: 10/21/2004 12:03:30 AM
hmm while that's interesting and all, just because i'm pro gun control doesn't make me pro nazi.

that's like saying that just because I have boobies that makes me a lesbian. WHAT??
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