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Wimmer
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/17/2008 1:33:34 PM |
Do you even need a ring- do you really need that validation that he loves you
Yes! After years of having people assume I was materialistic when I never was. I figure at this point in my life it's time for change and become the person I never was. It's easier than trying to convince them otherwise.
It would be easier on them to just feed me chocolate, rub my feet, and cuddle me. That means more to me than anything else. Instead I always get men trying to impress me with cash or the value of their worth. Not impressed really. | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/17/2008 7:00:35 PM | YEAH, TO HER IT DOES. HERE'S THE DEAL : GET A PROFESSIONALY CUT PIECE OF COAL, CUT TO LOOK LIKE A DIAMOND. HAVE IT SET IN A GOLD RING. PRESENT THIS TO YOUR LADY-LOVE/ OR DUDE, WHICHEVER THE CASE MAY BE. TELL HER/HIM " IF YOU LOVE ME LIKE I LOVE YOU, THEN THIS COAL WILL BE A DIAMOND BEFORE MY LOVE FOR YOU FADES." IF SHE/HE DOESN'T ACCEPT IT, THEN.................KICK HER/HIS SORRY BUTT TO THE CURB, THE MONEY-GRUBBIN GOLD DIGGER.
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Wimmer
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Joined: 3/4/2008
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/18/2008 12:51:44 AM |
tommyymmot: You best make sure you have hit the g-spot many times in order for her eyes to keep twinkling while you give her a piece of coal!
If that's the case we should be able to ask a woman to "earn" her diamonds at least 5 times a week and in ways that might make normal folk do more than blush. It's only fair after all. | |
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~Kyn~
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Joined: 2/15/2008
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/18/2008 2:14:35 AM |
If that's the case we should be able to ask a woman to "earn" her diamonds at least 5 times a week and in ways that might make normal folk do more than blush. It's only fair after all
Earn you think eh? Fair ya think eh?
Lets take a look at that shall we...?
Lets assume this betrothed isnt actually adding income to the partnership and is *gasp* not going to be contributing financially.
Average cost of an engagement ring...
Max $3044 (Bride's Millenium Report)
Min $2807 (National Bride Service)
Average american annual income
$32,000=$ 615 pw
Housewife wage comparison if she was employed to do all the same errands.
$60116.85 = $1156 per week
Average marriage lasts 7 years
Soooo...by those figures...
You get indulged for 2-2 1/2 weeks...then she owes you absolutely nothing now doesnt she? Doesnt have to lift a finger...not even a cuppa coffee in the morning for you whilst she has the audacity to contribute nothing financially
OR...lets look at it another way...
$165 per day for 7 years...with your stipulations...means an engagement ring valued at $421 575
ONE more way even...
A ring...for arguments sake at the top end...so we'll use $3044
Soooo...your $3044 indulgence you're throwing away on your fiancee (and she sure as hell better appreciate it cos seriously why does she need one at all?)...
...costs you $1.10 per day (by ring value) and with each day that surpasses the elusive 7 year itch...she's depreciating in value according to the value the man has considered her at initially.
Hey...it coulda been costing you $165 per day. LOL! Yeah...fair is right!
Edit: oh shit...I forgot to factor in what you owe her for pain and suffering. hehe!
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/18/2008 4:35:37 AM | | I wouldn't want an engagement ring.It's a big waste of money that could be put to better use somewhere else. I would be more interested in the man i am getting then in some useless piece of jewelery. | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/18/2008 9:43:32 AM |
Housewife wage comparison if she was employed to do all the same errands.
$60116.85 = $1156 per week
Seems a tad high for unskilled/semiskilled labor. The same type of job, if paid, would start a whole lot lower doing the same work. If their paid that much I want a job as a housewife..... | |
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~Kyn~
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Joined: 2/15/2008
Msg: 159 | |
| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/18/2008 1:54:45 PM |
Seems a tad high for unskilled/semiskilled labor.
And yet its true! Can argue with me...but not the facts. Google away my friend. All the information is there.
Just goes to show how the value of the average housewife is ridiculously underestimated now...doesnt it?
If their paid that much I want a job as a housewife.....
Well here's the kicker...you dont get paid NUFFIN. ZERO...ZILCH.
They do it for love of spouse and family and often no thanks whatsoever.
Its expected
Think you'd do it now? Hmm... | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/18/2008 2:22:29 PM | It really depends on a lot of variables. Are there children involved? Do both work, and share housework ect.
Average salary for a live-in maid is still around $22, 313 depending on area, years of experience, amount of work ect. Sure with overtime it will be more but still.
But keep in mind, its not what a wife does is what it is worth in monetary value, But because she cares about her family. | |
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Posted: 3/18/2008 2:41:58 PM | ^^^^^
"But keep in mind, its not what a wife does is what it is worth in monetary value, But because she cares about her family..."
I think you just proved her point..................................................... | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/18/2008 3:09:22 PM |
I think you just proved her point.....................................................
Not necessarily trying to prove anybody's point. If we are going to put a money value on someones work in a relationship might as well be a bit more realistic on the price range.....  | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/18/2008 3:48:36 PM | The size doesn't matter to me. I actually think the large ones are a bit ridiculous. I do a lot with my hands and really would just end up scratching the ring on everything if I got a large karat.
It needs to be something that was thought through, invested in, and described my SO's feelings for me. | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/18/2008 4:48:50 PM | I find it funny that so many women are posting in here saying they don't care. How come the materialistic ones aren't posting (for the most part)? I think women don't want to say they care because it makes them look materialistic, but I think more women care about the ring than are admitting in here. That is the FIRST thing that women ask when they hear someone is engaged - "oh let me see the ring!"... I remember that well, because when I got engaged, my fiancee and I decided we couldn't afford one, so I never had one... but it was embarrasing have to tell people that every time they found out we were engaged! It wasn't about being materialistic (as I agreed that we couldn't afford it and was ok with the decision)... but it was a bit embarrassing. I could understand this girl feeling a bit embarrassed.
I think women feel subconsciously that the "ring" is an outward manifestation of how a guy thinks of his girl, and THAT is what they are showing off when asked to see it. Oh look, he loves me so much, look at the $$$ he put into this ring.
Personally, I would like a ring the next time around, but I would like something that reflects my style and likes/dislikes (I'm not crazy about diamonds). I don't think I'm materialistic, but I do like bling.
edit: and oh yeah... I'd help pay for it too! :) | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/20/2008 5:27:03 PM |
If you're planning to marry this man, surely you must learn to discuss issues that involve money, finances, expectations, disappointments, needs, wants, potential hurt feelings.If you're going to accept an engagement ring from a man yet cannot discuss something that, in the grand scheme of life and marriage, is really not very important. then perhaps you might want to get pre-marital counseling. Marriage is for grown ups and being unwilling or unable to talk about an engagement ring does not bode well for future communication.
I agree, whilst you may not want to hurt his feelings it is YOURS & HIS engagement & that ring whilst a gift for you symbolises your comittment to eachother. If you cannot budget for a ring together then how are you going to plan & budget for a wedding? I mean if money is an issue for him & since the ring is symbolic for both of you why would you not budget together & have both of you buy the ring, surely you'll be paying for the wedding together?!
Not knowing the circumstances I'm wondering if he proposed suddenly or if the decision to ask you was rather impulsive IMHO some practicalities would be better explored before FORMALLY getting engaged, you know, go jewellery shopping together discuss the why's & wherefores of different types of weddings & the costs but keep it light hearted. When you feel your relationship is heading in that direction bounce off ideas. One has to be able to discuss these things objectively with ones partner.
I personally would prefer a hula hoop on my finger than a ring I knew nothing about, a ring that we hadn't shopped for & chosen together(unless he is presenting me with something precious to him for sentimental reasons, like his grandmothers for example)
I somewhile ago saw an exquisite ring that I fell in love with & knew was the one for me - it was VERY expensive but its not the size that matters to me its the style & personality the ring carrys. The ring I saw was very me & looked beautiful on my finger, alas I'm not engaged & the ring would probably have been sold now & it was also a one off.... My personal choice though would be to have one made, its the exclusivity that appeals & makes it that much more special, its a very intimate peice of jewellery to be shared exclusively between the two of you, a very personal item. Both parties are involved in the design process & you would deffinately have to budget together on this one. I really don't think in this day and age spending 3/4thousand pounds on an engagement ring is unreasonable but it depends on the people, their tastes & their financial affairs & priorities. If I were to see another ring I fell inlove with & it was only a few hundred quid I'd be happy if I felt it was the one for me. | |
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Posted: 3/20/2008 7:29:38 PM | | I dont mind how much she would spend on mine, I this case it would really be the thought that counts!! Never really understood why just the girl gets a ring? shouldn't it be a mutual showing of commitment like the giving of wedding rings? | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/21/2008 12:01:05 AM | [She DESERVES a decent ring???]
Just my opinion here but what the he1l does it matter what size the ring is? I thought it was a symbol of someones love for another,not a symbol of someones worth. | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/21/2008 12:38:33 AM | | The size of the ring shouldn't matter but as an expression of love if the man earns 6 figures per year and only spends $200.00 on the one and only engagement ring he will ever give her then I would wonder what he is trying to express. If on the other hand the man is struggling through school or to start a career and barely earns minimum wage, even a $100.00 ring is an expression of love and sacrifice for him. Its not the ring, its what it represents. But does the womans fiance really want to represent that he's Cheap? Even if the woman loves him and does not believe he is cheap she does not want her friends and family to believe him cheap. Just like you don't want others to believe bad things of your children because you love them. | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/21/2008 4:51:33 AM | No.
I hate jewelry, and I wouldn't want one. It seems like it's just something that people can shove in other people faces while jumping up and down going "OHMUHGAWEDAWWWRAWRRRAAAA!" and that's not my style. I'd rather have a Playstation 3 if someone felt the unbearable need to buy me something expensive. | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/21/2008 7:44:58 AM | | This post makes me ill. I would die if I were that man and found out how she felt. The woman who feels this way should stay single a longgggg time and re-evaluate what it means to love and be loved. | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/21/2008 8:12:04 AM | Personally I think you're all bonkers, but for the sake of argument, after all this talk of $6,000 dollar rings and suchlike, how many women are prepared to spend the same amount on a ring for their partner.
After all, you should be making a commitment to him too.. | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/21/2008 11:41:00 AM | What a silly question...."Does size matter in an engagement ring?" Of course it does!
If it's too small, she won't get it on her finger.
If it's too big, it might fall off and she would lose it.
A more interesting question might be "does the size of the diamond matter?", but that's best left for another thread.
(...uummm....why is everyone staring at me....aren't they supposed to be laughing...maybe I'll just stand over here....) | |
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| does size really matter in an engagement ring?
Posted: 3/21/2008 6:49:32 PM |
Odd, you know, this concept that $ can or does symbolize love. . . .
I don't think a diamond does symbolize love and I hope the girl that the OP is describing does not either. I guess the real question is what does the ring or any gift really mean? Unless it is an item you really need....What is the meaning of a gift? In truth, I can easily buy myself anything I need and most of the things I want but I still enjoy giving and receiving gifts. I enjoy giving them even more than receiving them. Especially if I know I have found something that the other person either really needs or will really enjoy. But I don't enjoy feeling used or unappreciated. The money does not symbolize love. The desire to make the other person happy and the desire to give them something they really need or will really enjoy (even if that 'something' is just your time or thought) DOES symbolize love. 
I once had an Ex- who did not believe in giving gifts...("I should know he loved me without gifts"), who did not believe in saying 'I love you'...("I should know without the words"), who did not support me when I needed him...(He was "too busy at work"), and who seemed to place everything and everyone else in his life ahead of me...(in other words he took me for granted). That's the main reason he's an Ex!!! If he doesn't DESIRE to make me happy, just as I DESIRE to make him happy, then he is not the man for me. 
The giving, whether it be gifts, attention, love or work in a relationship can't all be a one way street!  | |
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Well, I for one, am/was not fussed about an engagement ring, let its size.
And to think that it really supposes to catch peoples' eyes ... would not appeal to me slightly. But hey, different strokes for different folks.
