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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 11/4/2008 4:45:39 PM | | god if women do, they must see me all dressed in red with a flag in each hand! | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 11/4/2008 6:35:14 PM | | After picking through this thread I now realize what a covertly hostile, passive aggressive, mean minded, lonely, deformed, little fvck I am, but is that really so bad? Nobody's perfect. Who's gonna throw the first stone? So what if I got a lip on me? A chip on my shoulder...no the whole tree. A giant inferiority complex. But wait! Sarcasm is fun. And if any medium ever invited sarcasm it would be the mealy mouthed pronunciations emanating from these forums. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 11/4/2008 7:31:09 PM | I should probably leave this one alone. I really should, but...isn't Oscar Wilde dead? If he isn't, shouldn't he be? Now as far as sarcasm...never. Never, never, never, never!
Maybe we should kill them off. The sarcastic ones who think they are so damn funny and what gives them the right? Who needs em? Let's leave sarcasm in the hands of the high status male. Maybe we will be safer that way. I'm sarcastic because God made me this way.
The same way he made me short...and bitter. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 11/4/2008 11:21:32 PM | Sarcasm is not for tempermental and sentimental Whoosie's....
It is form of bantering. Some people know how to deliver it with clever wit and flair...
and unfortunately some people only know how to use it to spew their underlying venom. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 11/30/2008 11:31:10 AM | | I find sarcasm a HUGE turn on, especially since I'm very sarcastic myself. I love meeting a guy who can match me in that area. It means we can poke fun at each other, without taking each other too seriously. And crack each other up. I've always had more of a "guy" sense of humor anyway as a girl, so I enjoy sarcasm in a guy. I loves me some snarky guys. Hee. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 11/30/2008 1:42:24 PM | No my god no dont always read scarcasu, for agressivness I can be hellish saecastic always been that way but im really a scared kitten its just my way od dealing with nerves or my way of having a joke if you ask anyone who knows me im not mean at all the total opposite and im sure there are a lot out there the same as me .
With some yes with others no sasme as everything else in life if cant tell until youve meet with the person to know fir sure.
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 11/30/2008 1:49:21 PM |
Sarcasm is not for tempermental and sentimental Whoosie's....
It is form of bantering. Some people know how to deliver it with clever wit and flair...
and unfortunately some people only know how to use it to spew their underlying venom.
Ya, sarcasm can be anything from clever, funny and playful to downright malicious and evil.
That's a tough call as to whether or not it's a red flag. I can be sarcastic, but it's usually playful, and sometimes to even diffuse a tense situation. I can use it to be offensive, is someone ticks me off.
Meh.....I'm so 50/50 on the topic, I'll just say I dunno... | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 11/30/2008 2:06:38 PM | | I'm one of the most sarcastic people anyone will come across. So I don't know how I would feel if someone was the same level that I am. I would probably need someone to balance me. I also make fun of myself so I know I can take whatever I dish out. To each his own. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 11/30/2008 2:08:39 PM |
Sarcasm funny or not?
Can be - when not directed at someone.
Sarcasm sign of a bumpy road ahead?
Often, especially when people describe themselves as sarcastic.
Start of just being mean and abusive to one another?
If personally directed, yes.
It's one thing to snark at the bimbo in the horror movie who Inevitably Opens That Door, "Yeah, that'll go well." It's quite another to say, "Yes, your fanny does look fat. Kidding!... What? I was just being sarcastic."
And it's important to understand the difference... sarcasm can be wonderful dry humor (see: Dorothy Parker, i.e., "If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to"), but it can also be misused as a weapon. Gotta go on a case-by-case basis with it, IMO. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 12/12/2008 10:11:36 PM | Yes, in a couple of significant ways.
Anyone who defines their sense of humour as predominantly sarcastic is stating that they are truly mean spirited, much of the time, in either their humour or their communication. If not that then they, like many folks including some commenting in this thread, may have never availed themselves of any of the dictionary definitions so handy to the motivated internet user. If they have, the understanding or vocabulary would seem to be lacking. This latter group seems to confuse the concept of satire or irony for sarcasm. These may be related however they're not the same.
Like the current use of "impact" with no modifier in lieu of "affect" it is often lazy speech.
In either case I may read more of a profile to give the usage context and I'll generally skip anyone who strongly falls into either camp as likely being unpleasant company or not mildly well read enough to communicate above the level of what passes for wit in much of the programming for television today.
None of this means I have not or will not employ sarcasm, however it is but one item of speech or commentary. Hope that provides yet another useful perspective. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 12/13/2008 12:26:22 AM | | How I see it...sarcasm is a form of humor and/or quick wit. Teasing. Something said to make others laugh---comedy. Anything aggressively mean is verbal abuse. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 12/13/2008 2:59:41 PM | Witty people are highly intelligent and find a way to make the oddest observation or straightforward comment funny. People with quick wit slide in those one-liners that you don't expect, and they are never mean, hurtful or nasty.
Now when someone describes themselves as sarcastic, they usually mean they are a butthole. Sarcastic people make nasty comments that no one thinks is funny but them. When someone is sarcastic towards others, they make fun of you and its always at YOUR expense, never their own. Sarcastic people tend to hide behind "humor" when they want to put down, dig at, insult and poke fun at other people in a way that is never enjoyable for the one on the receiving end.
Personally, I can't stand sarcastic people. Every person I've ever met that were proud of their "sarcastic sense of humor" exhibited extremely low self esteem and always sought to make others feel as unhappy, confused or insecure as they do about themselves.
A person of strength and high self esteem would have no need for such a negative communication style. A person that describes themselves as sarcastic should be avoided at all costs. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 12/13/2008 3:05:59 PM | Good freakin God, sarcasm isn't sexy???
Someone should have told me this long ago...... WTF?
I think some of you folks ^^^^^ have bashing or attacking confused with wit, satire, and facetiousness... check your dictionary.
There's a vast difference beteen someone who uses sarcasm in a critical or demeaning manner, and someone who uses it as a tool for communicating intellectually.
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 12/13/2008 3:28:39 PM | | A lot of people don't even really know what 'sarcasm' mean. They think they're incredibly sarcastic and funny and alas, they are not. Like women who say, "I'm SUCH a b*tch!" They imagine themselves as Sandra Bernhard or Roseanne. Most people do not get sarcasm and do not do it very well. I know it sounds nasty. Same with humor. Everyone wants someone with a sense of humor. But being genuinely funny on your own is another thing. Also, sense of humor IS essential. Someone who has NO sense of humor is somoene who has a zero IQ or worse, really bad news in some evil way. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 12/13/2008 3:30:25 PM |
sarcasm like anything else has it's time and place...
If someone is sarcastic ALL the time.. it gets old fast.
Ditto! | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/6/2009 7:54:58 AM | Again, seems people who love sarcasm do not fully understand the context in which people that don't view it.
Definition of sarcasm...
NOUN:
1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
From what I can tell, the closest approximation to what sarcastic people "think" they're doing is wit.
Definition of wit...
NOUN:
1 The natural ability to perceive and understand; intelligence.
2.
a. Keenness and quickness of perception or discernment; ingenuity. Often used in the plural: living by one's wits.
b. Sound mental faculties; sanity: scared out of my wits.
3.
a. The ability to perceive and express in an ingeniously humorous manner the relationship between seemingly incongruous or disparate things.
b. One noted for this ability, especially one skilled in repartee.
c. A person of exceptional intelligence
Wit has all kinds of sub-genres: rapier, dry, acerbic, etc. -- but they all presuppose a certain amount of awareness, intelligence, and humility that most who use sarcasm either don't possess or use very badly. It's this misuse and inappropriateness that mangles whatever utility sarcasm has for most of its practitioners, and why I hate it so. Context is crucial. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/6/2009 9:11:41 AM | | When sarcasm is done in a funny playful way like you would see on the tv show Seinfeld then i don't mind. But most people in real life do sarcasm in a rude mean way and those are the ones we should be allowed to pimp slap, lol. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/6/2009 9:27:58 AM | for some, sarcasm is intended to wound....maybe only to deflect some perceived inner demon projected. The person offended...may, too, just have too thin skin...
SARCHASM; the vast gulf between what a true wit quickly quipped,
which the hapless mark, witless twit, utterly missed..... | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/6/2009 9:31:22 AM | | It's a big red flag. I can be jokingly sometimes, but it's not nice. I would be afraid to consider someone who is constantly sarcastic. | |
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Posted: 2/6/2009 9:37:23 AM | | Interesting how sarcastic and humour/witt have been placed together to almost form a singular word. You can be sarcastic and intelligent at the same time, but I'm thinking the intelligence part takes a back seat if the sarcasm is used to bolster your own self-esteem issues. Chances are, more often than not, the only ones who will find the sarcasm humourous or witty are the ones said sarcasm isn't being directed at. Too often, those self-admitted sarcastic humourists use it as a way of deflecting a poor character trait, ie. "Whaaaat??!! It was only a joke!" - usually followed up by, "Gawd, are you ever sensitive." | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/6/2009 10:45:21 AM | I did not read through this entire thread so if someone brought this up already, oh well...sue me.
It has been determined that our sense of humor is, at least to some degree, genetic. Some people are incapable of understanding, or comprehending how people poking fun at each other is humorous for everyone involved. I have a deep appreciation for anyone who can cut me down, so to speak. I do tend to be more reserved with my sarcastic wit around those I do not know well, but when I am with my close friends, we are all about making each other laugh, at each others expense. When I am with my friends, I am secure in the fact that I am around people who like me. So, when one of them takes a rip at me and everyone starts laughing, I am not thinking why would my friend say something like that to me, I thought he/she liked me. Many times I will even take it further at my own expense, and take one of my friends down with me. Sometimes it's my night to get picked on by the group, but every one gets their turn to be the target. Sometimes it is just a good old fashioned free for all. For me if I start making fun of somebody, it means I like them. If I don't talk to a person or seem kind of quiet, it means I don't like them or am still not sure. I don't say mean things to people I don't like. I know it sounds backwards, but it works for me and the people who I choose to associate with.
As far as it being a sign of passive aggressive behaviour; I would say yes and no. True sarcastic wit is not passive agressive. However, when a person is passive aggressive it can be difficult to tell the difference between their comments and sarcasm. It is all about intent. As a person who enjoys sarcastic humour, I am a bit impervious to passive agressive comments. I just assume it is sarcasm and in many ways the intent goes right over my head. I count myself lucky.
Sarcasm is not for everyone; If you can't stand the heat... get out of the kitchen. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/6/2009 11:02:38 AM | | ^^^ so true...know the company you keep and who can take what you're dishing out in the way it's intended. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/6/2009 11:09:31 AM | If sarcasm is used amongst friends/family, and they know your "exact" intent and meaning behind it, to each their own, but from what I've observed deeply sarcastic people never make such fine distinctions. They paint everyone with the same, broad brush of ridicule and condescension.
And this doesn't concern "standing the heat" (a telling admission if there ever was one). Is that what one equates it with; what this all comes down to? The argument that if one can't stand the full treatment, and be able to fire back with equal venom, they're somehow "unworthy" enough to be a friend? What nonsense.
If smug meanness and the ability to enjoy "ripping apart" people (or taking perverse pleasure in having it done to you) is your cuppa tea, fine, but it's not mine and many others, if the posts in this thread are any indication.
Like I wrote earlier, too many mistake it for being witty, but instead come off as insensitive morons.
I also detect this theme: people who use it to keep others "grounded", or like it used against them as some twisted way to keep their own ego in check. How about this, why not avoid sounding like a loudmouthed, arrogant, egotistical imbecile in the first place? | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/6/2009 11:17:57 AM | | I have a very low opinion on sarcastic people, for they have low selfsteem and they are bitter people, it is waste of time talking with them,the conversation is bantering or attacking, in a mean way of conversation camouflage of funny jokes. | |
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