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 REDDRAGON.

Joined: 10/9/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 1:38:32 AM

Believe me sarcasm is UNHEALTHY literally. The sarcastic folk I know I have to psyche myself up whenever I HAVE to hang out with them (have here meaning zero option of escape). Its like a bad toxic chemical, they want to spread it and kill everything alive with their sour words. Those who hang around sarcastic people have poor health too. I just don't like sarcastic people at all. Not my cup of tea. Its literally like a bad cancer.



Ya I've been wondering what this huge lump on my throat is.....
 Briannazg2

Joined: 8/28/2007
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Posted: 2/7/2009 1:38:45 AM

Complex thinking required to understand sarcasm

He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know...



I guess it's all in how you swing!


F O R E

 Sumo_sumo

Joined: 12/26/2008
Msg: 353
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Posted: 2/7/2009 1:40:52 AM

SumoSumo

Believe me sarcasm is UNHEALTHY literally. The sarcastic folk I know I have to psyche myself up whenever I HAVE to hang out with them (have here meaning zero option of escape). Its like a bad toxic chemical, they want to spread it and kill everything alive with their sour words. Those who hang around sarcastic people have poor health too. I just don't like sarcastic people at all. Not my cup of tea. Its literally like a bad cancer.


So it's not a third testicle I'm growing, but cancer due to sarcasm?
 Briannazg2

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Posted: 2/7/2009 1:41:50 AM
Ya I've been wondering what this huge lump on my throat is.....


Hey Mister, that belongs in the spit or swallow thread...dammit we have rules here...
where's a hall monitor when we need one..... lmao


So it's not a third testicle I'm growing, but cancer due to sarcasm?

Well if it is... a 3rd testi that is....I sense a future of major vaporlocking for you...watch out lol
 The rock man

Joined: 4/13/2008
Msg: 355
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Posted: 2/7/2009 1:47:18 AM

is anything left... not considered being abusive?


Baby seal clubbing. It's the new cricket, great fun for the whole family..

Abuse is knowing your kids whacking off 10 times a day and you hide the lotion.

So it's not a third testicle I'm growing, but cancer due to sarcasm?

Are you sure it's yours and not just a one nut man standing a little to close?
 Sumo_sumo

Joined: 12/26/2008
Msg: 356
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Posted: 2/7/2009 1:50:41 AM

Well if it is... a 3rd testi that is....I sense a future of major vaporlocking for you...watch out lol


And to think all of this could have been prevented if I werent so sarcastic. Damn me!!!!
 Sumo_sumo

Joined: 12/26/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 1:52:21 AM

Abuse is knowing your kids whacking off 10 times a day and you hide the lotion.

Any parent should be jailed for this


Are you sure it's yours and not just a one nut man standing a little to close?
Yup, his left one is gone and this new one is coming up on my right.
 The rock man

Joined: 4/13/2008
Msg: 358
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Posted: 2/7/2009 1:58:33 AM
With more stress hormones circulating in your body you are more likely to develop a cancerous testicle.

Cool it won't be just a plain ol hairy sack any more. Besides the only time a hormones around me is when I don't pay her!

I already feel stress in my body just being in this post let me get out.

Well in your case I'm thinking that man is standing a lot closer to you then he was to sumo sumo....

Apple martini anyone?
 Sumo_sumo

Joined: 12/26/2008
Msg: 359
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Posted: 2/7/2009 2:01:19 AM

Your knack for sarcasm proves that you are smart enough to perform a google search on the effects of sarcasm on health lol!

I'm sure Wikipedia provided you with all of your accurate information


Sarcasm is an UNHEALTHY form of humor that elevates insteads of abates stress levels.
Only if you have a small enough mind and self-worth to actually be effected by words that aren't even threatening. Otherwise, it elevates the fun like-minded people can have together.


With more stress hormones circulating in your body you are more likely to develop a cancerous testicle.
This is why I do not let petty things like somebody being sarcastic towards me affect me in any way. You have to have a pretty low self image to allow a sarcastic comment to even cause the slightest of stress. People get stressed out simply because they fail to manage their thoughts and ulitmately their lives. I suggest you learn to loosen up and not be such a worry wort. Your stress level will decrease as well as you maybe even finding a sense of humor


So I suggest Mr. SmartyPants that you visit an oncologist asap and have some lab work done especially if you do this kind of humor everyday. I already feel stress in my body just being in this post let me get out. Later gators.
You need nicotine.
 cubanguy

Joined: 8/1/2007
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Posted: 2/7/2009 2:09:48 AM
"Apple martini anyone?"

Three dry martinis for me, so I get drunk, lick the third testicule and sue for the lump in my throat.
 Sumo_sumo

Joined: 12/26/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 2:14:45 AM

Words that might not be consciously threatening to you might mean life and death on the subconcious level.
Whose? Yours? Wow, you really do need to take yourself a lot less seriously. I notice the people who do not like sarcasm are not very funny people, generally miserable and have negative self-images and views on life.


If you can concsiously learn to "guard your heart with diligence from whence flows the issues that affect your life" you will have hacked what it means to be inspired and stress-free.
And? This does not give permission to create issues out of nothing. Like taking a joke so personal it elevates your stress level.


The words of others that we deem harmless can carry so much weight and meaning with regards to how we view ourselves and our potential to fly - ever heard the phrase that eagles do not hang with chicken? Chicken hang with chicken and eagles fly and soar high with eagles. Thus the story goes that birds of a feather flock together :-). Happy roosting.


Ever hear the phrase "false analogy?" It the use of a BS analogy to prove a point. You just did one.
 The rock man

Joined: 4/13/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 2:20:02 AM

ever heard the phrase that eagles do not hang with chicken?

Well those racist **stards. Those self flightous fish eating endangered snobs!

But then again after what happened at fog horn leg horns party could be why.
This "chick's" date was acting all "cocky" and he held that eagle down and shaved his head. Bald I tell ya shaved it bald!
 The rock man

Joined: 4/13/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 2:23:18 AM

exists a broader realm of existence which identifies the dangers of stashing your mouth with copious amounts of sarcastic nirvana.

Is this where the hobbits come out and try to steal the "ring".....?
 REDDRAGON.

Joined: 10/9/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 2:41:18 AM

Eerm, actually this is that part where somebody sneaks from behind with a baseball bat in their hands and slips and falls acidentally hitting you on the back of the head thereby causing you to pass out lol! You guys are hilarious though I have to admit.


jesus you could give Mo a run for his money.....


Mo I kiiid I kiiiid........
 mike3193

Joined: 8/20/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 2:44:52 AM
Sarcasm isn't a red flag if you can handle sarcasm. It is a red flag if you cannot handle it. Simple. My parents split when I was young and I grew up with one family being really sarcastic and the other being serious/sensitive. I've learned to adapt. All people really need to be able to do is to throw one sarcastic comment out there...then gauge the reaction. Watch body language/expressions.


I hate sarcasm. I was speaking with blunt honesty about how I feel about your ilk. Learn to tell the difference.


It also seems 99% who indulge have these grand delusions about how they sound, but in reality don't have the brain power and emotional maturity to pull it off and just sound pathetic instead.


Ok so its wrong to be sarcastic in your mind, but, Its ok to act like a jack@ss towards people who don't agree with you? If you are half as arrogant in real life as you are in this thread...it would be no surprise for you to be at the end of many sarcastic comments.
 motownmaniax

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Posted: 2/7/2009 7:50:53 AM
^^^^^^

Ok so its wrong to be sarcastic in your mind, but, Its ok to act like a jack@ss towards people who don't agree with you? If you are half as arrogant in real life as you are in this thread...it would be no surprise for you to be at the end of many sarcastic comments.


Hmm, as opposed to you acting like a jack@ss when people don't agree with "you", eh? (as in “liking” sarcasm) Guess it never occurs to some that they fall into their own trap of logic. Also funny how some make it personal when I talk about the concept of sarcasm as opposed to the individual who practices it. Feathers get immediately ruffled and backs arch in fight mode if one even “thinks” they’re being included in the conversation.

Sumo made some nice points. The problem with sarcasm is one you hit on last page.


Mostly, sarcasm is used by the intelligent to poke fun at the hypocrisy of people on the micro and macro leve. Some of it is vicious. But, the vast majority is to stand back and take a laugh at the behaviors of people, which oftentimes include yourself. It's called having a sense of humor. You clearly do not have one.


First off, from my understanding satire and irony is NOT sarcasm, at least the definition I put forth in this thread. The dictionary definition’s pretty clear. The good-natured ribbing and put-downs you have between friends is NOT sarcasm, since you’re doing it out of an already well-defined sense of friendship and everybody knows exactly what is meant by it. (Although, I’ve seen instances of serious falling outs between long-time friends simply over misused words and misunderstandings about the meaning behind them).

Sarcasm is a distinct form and different from what you're talking about.

Rock Man also made a good point, one that I mentioned earlier.

I see many who apparently have the grandiose notion their wit and wisdom is on par with Mark Twain or Shakespeare? Leave real satire to the masters and professionals, people. What I see all too often in this society is that perceived “wit” degenerates into gutter humor and scatological rants. Personally, I don’t presume to have a rapier wit so don’t indulge in putting down others for my own enjoyment. I'm not that "funny", and I suspect most of the rest of you aren't, either.

Oh, and I have a well-developed sense of humor, believe me, Sumo. Never make assumptions.

Reckless Optimist, you look like that kid in Super Bad. Talk about getting beat up as a kid? I kid, I kid ..... have a beer.

Mo
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 9/30/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 8:19:22 AM

(Ill light your fuse) I have been thinking about this for awhile. I see alot of people decribe themselfs as having a sence of humor that has a sarcastic bite or being witty with sarcasm. I am thinking this is a red flag for passive agressiveness... Sarcasm sign of a bumpy road ahead? Start of just being mean and abusive to one another?


My perspective is, a lot of people describe themselves as "sarcastic", which is sort of an excuse ahead of time, and code for "I'm like a bull in a china shop when it comes to considering the feelings of others, so when (not if) I say something ignorant, I'll just say something like, 'I was just being sarcastic! Gawd, don't you have a SENSE OF HUMOUR?!?'"

Arlo (not sarcastic, just oh-so-witty...)
 motownmaniax

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Posted: 2/7/2009 8:20:55 AM
^^^^^ 100% agree.
 Lilith_1

Joined: 4/30/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 8:52:28 AM
Oh I love a bit of friendly sarcasm/banter thrown into the conversation when the people involved know when it is time to stop...
 Icey43

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Posted: 2/7/2009 9:32:19 AM
Good lord peeps, this is becoming an age of the ridiculous.
You cannot be politically correct and please all the people all the time.
And quite frankly everyone has their own perception.
Honestly Sarcasm is humour plain and simple. Sometimes I can't help but be sarcastic when people give me so much ammunition to do it with.
I am known by my friends and family for my quick wit.
And they also know me as a person with a heart of gold.
As far as I can see some are just hypersensitive.
going back to my corner now.
 Sumo_sumo

Joined: 12/26/2008
Msg: 371
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Posted: 2/7/2009 9:33:38 AM

SumoSumo

As a person whose level of existence is limited to the "mind" as you have chosen to identify yourself with, it is not easy for you to grasp "hearty issues" and how the gateways of our ears, eyes, sights, smells, taste etc affect us even when we are "asleep". You pride yourself in being a rational thinker hence sarcasm is your pinnacle of nirvana - and those who do not get nirvana from your utterly "complex sarcastic viewpoint" are boring unevolved beings as per your level of understanding.
Congrats on you moving from false analogies to false interpretations of what I said to prove your point. You do a great job of showing exactly what I was saying before about the less intelligent people not understanding sarcasm, thus it brings them mental anguish. You do realize your mindset affects all your "hearty issues," right? Again, thanks for proving my point. Point to where I mention sarcasm as the "pinnacle of nirvana." IMO, the song "Smellls Like Teen Spirit" was their apex. And no, those who do not get nirvana from my "complex sarcastic viewpoint" are boring. However, their minds are unevolved in terms of understanding complex meanings if they allow something as petty as a sarcastic comment to upset them. People who rule their lives on emotion are simpletons who make poor choices.


I am sorry to inform you that beyond the 'sarcasm nirvana" exists a broader realm of existence which identifies the dangers of stashing your mouth with copious amounts of sarcastic nirvana. It requires a quantum leap of imagination to get to that next level - no sarcastic comment or rational thought will take you there. That level of existence means opening up to higher possibilities - eagle view in which the thoughts of the architect are much higher than the thoughts of the mortal man and his ways are supreme.
Yup. And guess what? By being a simpleton, there is no way you can ever get there. If you're upset by sarcastic remarks, you cannot achieve an "eagle view" simple because you're a petty, self-centered person too concerned about what others say about you.


HOWEVER: A chicken cannot fly even if it took a quantum leap. Maybe in the next life it will evolve into an eagle but that requires extra good deeds which excludes destructive sarcasm (leads to bad karma - )

Sarcasm is only destructive if, used improperly. Much like giving excess postivite reinforcement can allow people to become enablers to poor behavior. Those who see things in pure black/white like you will forever be turkeys and killed, stuffed and eaten by all those with smarts enough to have open minds unlike yourself.


And that concludes my discussion with you :-).
Awesome. I hope you learned a lot from this class I just taught you.
 Sumo_sumo

Joined: 12/26/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 9:50:53 AM

First off, from my understanding satire and irony is NOT sarcasm, at least the definition I put forth in this thread. The dictionary definition’s pretty clear. The good-natured ribbing and put-downs you have between friends is NOT sarcasm, since you’re doing it out of an already well-defined sense of friendship and everybody knows exactly what is meant by it. (Although, I’ve seen instances of serious falling outs between long-time friends simply over misused words and misunderstandings about the meaning behind them).


You are correct that it is NOT sarcasm entirely. However, satire can be sarcasm. And irony is never sarcasm, but communicating the irony found in something can be sarcastic. For example my boss was on my case, complaining to admin, other teachers in their classrooms, the principal and the VP about my job performance. She was constantly in their offices to whine about me not being in my class enough. BTW, a true story. See how there was sarcasm pointing out the irony?

Again, this something I should have clarified. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

The thing between friends. It is sarcasm. It's just like you said, it's done within a well-defined sense of friendship. But, it's still sarcasm.


Sarcasm is a distinct form and different from what you're talking about.
It is. However, methinks you've railroaded it into just meaning malicious, passive-aggressive comments. Which is not the case. I know people who are like that and use sarcasm exclusively this way. But think about it. These people would still be jerks even without sarcasm. Sarcasm doesn't make them a jerk. It just gives them a tool to make them feel superior. This is not me, IRL. I actually can't stand people like that. The sarcasm I was defending was the stuff I was mentioning earlier. Not this. I learned from sports if you want to beat a person, attack their weakness. If you want to break them, attack their strengths. I love using sarcasm to make a jerk feel stupid.


Oh, and I have a well-developed sense of humor, believe me, Sumo. Never make assumptions.
Yes, I may have made a false one or two with you.
But you did the same. It's funny, how after you restated your point, I agree with some of it. Just not all of it. IMO, your scope of sarcasm only includes the negative and not the fun stuff between buddies. My friends and me always try to outwit each other and when we do get outwitted, there's a smile and a "I'll get you back" type of response. But that payback is merely in wit. And it's all fun and games.
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 9/30/2008
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Posted: 2/7/2009 10:24:11 AM

(Lilith 1) Oh I love a bit of friendly sarcasm/banter thrown into the conversation when the people involved know when it is time to stop...


I totally agree. However, a lot of people who think they're "sarcastic", also seem to think that, if a LITTLE sarcasm is funny, a LOT of it is ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS! It's not. Even Oscar Wilde knew when to put the kibosh on being a smart-@$$. And, most people who describe themselves as "sarcastic", are a long, LOOONG way from being good judges of when it's time to stop, like the ole Wilde-man was.

Arlo
 REDDRAGON.

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Posted: 2/7/2009 12:29:10 PM

My perspective is, a lot of people describe themselves as "sarcastic", which is sort of an excuse ahead of time, and code for "I'm like a bull in a china shop when it comes to considering the feelings of others, so when (not if) I say something ignorant, I'll just say something like, 'I was just being sarcastic! Gawd, don't you have a SENSE OF HUMOUR?!?'"


And that's all it is just your perspective just like Mo has an opinion of my hair do
many try sarcasm and end up flubbing it up winding up looking the fool ,real sarcasm is innate and when correctly delivered to whom it may concern it does not need to entail a warning or the very least an apology.
 DM1063

Joined: 1/28/2009
Msg: 375
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Posted: 2/7/2009 1:18:20 PM
totally agree. I am accused all the time of being sarcastic by my male friend and He can't take it but it's my yankee way but everything I say lately he says is sarcasm. For instance we were on the phone and we were having a serious discussion and he said he had to get off the phone so I said " of course, everytime the conversation isn't going how u want it you have to hang up." That was taken as sarcasm which to me was only me making a statement.
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