| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/19/2009 6:54:20 PM | Hey you think way too much. Sarcasm in short is being funny in with caustic and bitter sense at your expense. I mean do you think that’s what they really mean? I don’t think there to are many people dumb enough to express that on their profile.
When I see sarcasm in a profile, I read it as someone who just wants to tell the world that they are bold and will speak their mind. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/19/2009 6:58:21 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh I like you...............hmmmm yes I do  Finally a guy who gets sarcasm. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/19/2009 6:59:29 PM | | I think everyone has a little sarcasm in them and uses it from time to time. Sarcasm that is not intensionally hurtful to someone else can be very funny depending on its usage. Too many times however sarcasm is used to intensionally hurt someone and gets a bad rep for it. It can be a deal breaker if it's overdone or if it goes down the path of verbal abuse which is more common in relationships than one might think. Some people are just naturally sarcastic and those people fit better with those who understand and appreciate that type of humor. If they don't, the relationship will not work for very long. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/19/2009 7:23:18 PM | | Actually I like sarcasm when it comes from one of my cherished friends.....since it puts me in a good mood, and I need not rebuke him for it, but enjoy, because it is always partly true, and it teaches me to be humble. But if it the sarcasm is from someone I do not know and do not trust, then it would be 'alarming' and cause for flight or fight. So coming from a true friend it is acceptable, and honoured, for it is truly funny, but from the outside, may be not. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/20/2009 1:14:19 PM |
mjr150:When I see sarcasm in a profile, I read it as someone who just wants to tell the world that they are bold and will speak their mind.
that is what i do. i just try to do it in a "funny" way. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/20/2009 1:23:43 PM |
trulio:So coming from a true friend it is acceptable, and honoured, for it is truly funny, but from the outside, may be not.
that is the key to sarcasm: knowing when/who to use it around. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/20/2009 1:30:23 PM | According to this article sarcasm is necessary for survival, and part of our social evolution:
http://www.livescience.com/history/080620-hn-sarcasm.html
I don't see sarcasm as a *red flag* because I understand most sarcasm. I also see when and where sarcasm is more appropriate than a direct attack or retort to someone. When it is used constantly instead of direct, open and honest communication, then it is a *red flag*, not when it is used occasionally or appropriately.
I tend to get sarcastic when others expect more of me than I am capable of. I get that way when others are being unrealistic or unreasonable with me and have already been warned once or twice. Some people like to keep pushing buttons though, so they really do deserve it. When I've been direct and honest and they still act that way towards me, then the sarcasm really comes out of me, and I really know how to lay it on THICK too. I am careful, because I am very skilled at cutting a person down with words if I choose to. I'm mostly like this at work and in my professional life. I'm never or rarely like this in my personal life.
There is a time and place for it. If I surrounded myself with people I felt I had to be sarcastic towards in my personal life, then I'd better get some new friends and relationships. In the business world it's very different. It's almost a required skill for survival.
Mike | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/20/2009 2:29:31 PM | Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit but the highest form of intelligence.
Allegedly | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/20/2009 2:39:53 PM | | Ahh well then, if it's a slogan it must be fact (likely put out there by a sarcastic individual). | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/20/2009 3:48:05 PM | Very simple:
JAY LENO IS SARCASTIC.
DAVID LETTERMAN IS SARCASTIC.
ALL THE OTHERS ARE.
The networks have plenty of money and choose anyone they want to host a late night talk show.
Of all the types of people they could choose, they chose people with SARCASTIC PERSONALITIES.
Why? Because most people love their personalities and find them entertaining.
NOT PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE.
The result? Millions watch night after night after night. For years.
THEREFORE, nothing wrong with sarcasm. It's a facet of having a good sense of humor, which most people like. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/20/2009 4:11:34 PM | You forgot Jon Stewart..................now to me he has the perfect dose of sarcasm and humour...................cheers  | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 9:25:20 AM |
red flag, and yes I see it as passive aggressive, being mean without the balls. I stay clear away from a man that's going to dump his sarcastic wit on me because most times it just comes off as mean comments. Run for the hills, fast! Run! I hope you don't trip over your oversized brain while running.
Oftentimes people are so stupid and/or self-centered that, direct communication has no bearing on them. This is when I use sarcasm to point out what a moron this person is being. It is definately not being without balls. You have no clue here. I always communicate in a direct manner, except when I am in the company of friends. Oftentimes with friends we communicate with sarcasm to poke fun of each other. And we all laugh and tease back. It's what guys do. Well, guys who aren't overly sensitive. I don't hang out with those drama queens.
And the other times I use sarcasm is to point out the stupidity in people, things or ideas. Most times it's from a distance as an observer like government or the school board's decisions. Stuff, I can have zero impact on. How is this without balls? Or wit? When many of the greatest satarists of history and modern times do this? Please, explain this.
Back to pointing out how stupid people are and when they warrant sarcasm. Ever been in a situation when some idiot just doesn't get it? No matter how many times you directly tell them? I use sarcasm here to point out their idiocy. You know what? They finally get it after I make the point with sarcasm. My lead teacher had to leave the room one day so I had to bring my ELL kids into the main class. I was instructed to baby sit the class while she did her thing. Turns out nobody knew how to freakin' outline which was the assignment. Outlining is a skill kids are supposed to know by 9th grade. So I did my job and taught them. This clueless wonder comes back and yells at me for teaching the kids outlining rather than just baby sitting. After twice defending my position with direct, humorless communication, this idiot was still on her power trip ontop of her high horse. So I sarcastically responded, "I'm very sorry for teaching your kids a task in 15 minutes. A task you failed to teach them in 2 1/2 years. I will never, ever, ever try to help them learn what you failed to teach them again."
She got it. Was upset at what I said. But was even more hurt that I had zero respect for her. Net result. She fell off her high horse and took a better look at herself. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 9:28:24 AM | | Red flag for me. There is usually a fine line between "light hearted sarcasm" and negativity or putting others down. Personally I try to avoid negative people. Usually sarcasm comes with the territory there. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 9:46:59 AM | there is no weaker or lower form of humor than sarcasm
it's just masking what you really think by claiming it's a joke
sarcasm is what ***holes do...
i am never cutting like that
it does no good...
we should use our words to build people up,
never to tear them down... | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 10:01:00 AM | I can differentiate a person who is snide/sarcasm and one who has a sharp/sardonic/dry wit...
The former is a turn off.. the later is very sexy to me..because it mirrors a sharp mind.. mmm
It's all in the delivery..The sarcastic person just comes across bitter jaded and angry whereas the sharp witted person gets the point across sans the malicious inflection..
eg Bill Mahr and George Carlin(r.i.p.): both w/ a dry sardonic wit but never come across as angry hostile people..Not to me anyway...
I am drawn to men who have a sharp wit tinged with sarcasm as that matches my own persona.. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 10:07:29 AM |
I can differentiate a person who is snide/sarcasm and one who has a sharp/sardonic/dry wit... 
From reading this thread that makes you a rarity since most people responding here cannot.
The former is a turn off.. For some reason all people think about when they think sarcasm is this. Even I said these people are chumps. And I've been here defending sarcasm.
the later is very sexy to me..because it mirrors a sharp mind.. mmm
It's all in the delivery.. I love when women have this characteristic. For me it shows she not only has a sharp mind, but a good sense of humor and can laugh at herself.
The sarcastic person just comes across bitter jaded and angry True. But not all people who use sarcasm are like this because of...
whereas the sharp witted person gets the point across sans the malicious inflection..
eg Bill Mahr and George Carlin(r.i.p.): both w/ a dry sardonic wit but never come across as angry hostile people..Not to me anyway... However, I do like Jonathon Swift's writings and he does show his wit sometimes in a hostile way. But he's too damn funny not to laugh at.
I am drawn to men who have a sharp wit tinged with sarcasm as that matches my own persona.. You're a rarity since most women view sarcasm life everyone else here.
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 10:07:46 AM | | there is a fine line between sarcasm being funny and being hurtful and mean-spirited. self-deprecation is sometimes funny but sometimes it's an obvious ploy to get attention and validation. i find it hard to curb my tendency to be cynical after experiencing some disappointment in others and it's easy to get bitter in the dating pool...so sometimes being a smart ass is self-protective. forgive and be understanding, and if you don't like it, move on. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 10:11:42 AM | someone who puts "sarcasm" in their profile is telling you that they want to be sarcastic in front of a potential mate.
NEXT. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 10:45:49 AM |
You're a rarity since most women view sarcasm life everyone else here.
awwww Thx sumo sweetie | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 11:44:04 AM | | IMO, sarcasm is no more a red flag than satire, witticisms or parody. If one’s perception of another’s behavior toward them leads them to believe that they are being insulted, it is their perception of way they were treated that is the red flag; it matters not the form in which the perceived slight arrived. If they were insulted by being the punch line of a knock-knock joke, would that make all knock-knock jokes red flags (aside from the fact that knock-knock jokes are only sputtered from the moldering sphincters of old vaudevillians)? | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 12:12:51 PM | Most people do get what sarcasm is and how it's used. Unfortunately, there are many who think in their own subjective way that their own version of it is humourous - when it's clearly not to anyone but themselves; therefore, it does not make them as intelligent as they'd like to think they are because they're again, only being subjective.
While we're talking about defintions of different words and being that one is so staunchly providing examples in defence of himself, here's a great example of being oxymoronic at it's finest when someone states you hold a higher degree of intelligence if you can understand sarcasm. In the following case the individual it was directed at was being called an idiot, but they apparently got the sarcasm:
Back to pointing out how stupid people are and when they warrant sarcasm. Ever been in a situation when some idiot just doesn't get it? No matter how many times you directly tell them? I use sarcasm here to point out their idiocy. You know what? They finally get it after I make the point with sarcasm.
No need to provide an example of idiocy at this point. The above has already provided the example for all to see in an objective way.
Now, am I being just plainly saracastic here, or am I providing sarcastic humour, being that this is directed at an individual? Are you laughing yet, or are you pissed off? I know I'm laughing at this, as others are likely too. Therefore, this must be the humourous sarcasm which is being so staunchly supported. Then again, that's just my subjective opinion. On top of it, I must be highly intelligent just because I subjectively think I'm being humourously sarcastic!! I'm so glad to know this!! I can sleep soundly at night now. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 12:29:07 PM | urgh funny people are overrated. Where are those grumpy faces..where I say. | |
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| Sarcasm red flag or not?
Posted: 2/21/2009 5:06:10 PM |
Sarcasm funny or not? Sarcasm is an All-American pasttime! House, Rescue Me, the news... all sarcastic 90% of the time. | |
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