| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 1:06:41 PM | ...................possession and control of another human being. The women who do so, especially, use sex to eslave the man. Men use the offer of the female M dream and "security"
How laughable!
The assumption is that we are both primitive species....... women enslaving men, men enslaving women.....
which kind of decent evolved individual would fall for that trap.....Amazing how unprogressive some minds are.
Nobody is afraid of the marriage vow. But many are not ready for it.
And for the love of God.....stop comparing family law to business law: there are historical reasons why laws are as they are.
If you don't like the M word, don't get married! It's that easy. | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 1:43:05 PM | | Not Me I have no problem with it at all. If the person is right and you both feel its right then by all means MMMMMMMMMMMMM away. If your thinking the D word before you jump in then its not worth it. | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 3:34:30 PM | do you realize 50/50 isnt all that fair for the woman?
Lets take a poll.
If a lady makes half what you make, do you think its fair for her to pay half the bills?
p.s. excuse me.. submission??? Oh puleeeze.
p.s.s. it goes both ways, my ex tried to take the house I had before I met him. | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 4:35:59 PM |
I see no point to marriage.
I'd rather live with someone together, split everything 50/50
I know, easier said than done
There's no point in that either. Live separate, keep your things separate, keep your space and visit when you have time. If it ends, there's nothing to fight over.  | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 4:37:32 PM | Nobody is afraid of the marriage vow. But many are not ready for it.
And for the love of God.....stop comparing family law to business law: there are historical reasons why laws are as they are.
i hate to tell you dear,but at one time legal marriage ment a man owned a women.i would stop mixing up family law with business law when you remove the financial laws from the family law. | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 4:40:17 PM |
There's no point in that either. Live separate, keep your things separate, keep your space and visit when you have time. If it ends, there's nothing to fight over. I like what you just said. It's mainly because of the D word that pisses me off.  | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 4:50:07 PM | yeah..
lets just be a booty call, thats what most the men are saying anyway
nope.not at all.you want my heart you have to trust in my heart.the true risk is just that.if you need more than that i cant trust you.commitment is in the heart.there were no lawyers in the bible,nor was there seperation or divorce.i believe in marriage,just not the basterdized version that has been created.if our hearts dont believe than no paper work will make it so. | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 4:50:29 PM | family law protects the weaker, as it should, either way or the other. If the woman was the breadwinner,
the man would be protected.
and by the way: this is why family law is as is now: because we did not want to be owned and deprived of freedom just because
we become mothers.
It goes both ways.
Marriage is a big commitment, for everybody involved.
If you don't share the principles, then avoid the ring: simple as that. We do have choices after all, all of us,
men and women.....we do not have to get married, if we do not wish to
( family law applies to common law couples as well: you might want to think of why)
And to the smart guy hereunder: Thank you...finally some words of sanity.
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 4:51:40 PM | | Reddwine, not all men. Some guys want to settle for women that are more than just a booty call. Maybe some men might be insecure about the type of woman they marry. Not everyone is marriage material both men and women genders because there are faults in all of us and also compatiblity plays a big factor in marriage. Some people are mean't for marriage and some are not. | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 4:57:39 PM |
yeah. lets just be a booty call, thats what most the men are saying anyway.
You can easily live apart and spend WAY more time than just a booty call together (if you want more than a booty call, that is).
In this day and age, women shouldn't be rushing into marriage either, as we have just as much to lose...women working and being able to support themselves (and more women now than ever are getting degrees and putting together six figure careers) is rapidly changing the landscape of marriage and divorce and what it entails. As it should - but now it's not just men that should be nervous about entering into an agreement like this unarmed. | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 5:06:04 PM | ( family law applies to common law couples as well: you might want to think of why)
oh i know why,and there is nothing moral about it.common law is man objective that is far past family law.i agree marriage is a big commitment,its not a commitment that should be dictated though.marriage has nothing to do with how the government percieves it should be.it wasnt when women were owned and it isnt now.the people who wish to bring there hearts together should be able to dictate there fate at no extra cost.period. | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 5:09:25 PM | Nobody dictates marriage on you!
Nobody dictates common law living on you!
Are men brought to the altar with a gun on their head?
Talking about crying babies.... | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 5:18:41 PM | Nobody dictates marriage on you!
Nobody dictates common law living on you!
Are men brought to the altar with a gun on their head?
Talking about crying babies....
common law is dictated on us not me.you,me,the girl i love.marriage is dictated because in order for you to create your own legalities you have to pay a lawyer. | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 8:21:40 PM | Contrary to the assertions or suggestions made by many here "Long Term" does not EQUAL "marriage." One may end up being the other, but nothing is assured. It seems a bit "unfair" to say or suggest that men who claim to be seeking "long-term" relationships are lying, fraudulent shysters if they do not have a desire or intent to marry. It could (at least possibly) be that he would like to settle down and enjoy a loving, committed, enduring, and maybe even monogamous long-term relationship/companionship. If the man lacks or loses the desire to stay with a woman, being married to her saves nothing for either of them. It seems to me a more sensible approach to spend a little time in a relationship with a guy -- (a) so you could begin to assess if you'd even WANT to be married to his @ss ; and (b) to TALK with him and see whether he is for/against marriage and why.
Sometimes, it seems, we get so enamored and determined to "be married" that it becomes a focused "goal," where we start seeing those persons (even the otherwise really nice ones) who don't share that same determination as evil, manipulative, or abusive. The proponents of this view seem more often to be female, although we both engage in that myopic assessment. Some seem to hold the belief that there are only two relationship forms available: marriage (completed or in-process) and "booty calls." Such a narrow view could be interpreted as insulting to the woman who does not wish to get married, but does wish to enjoy some other sort of long-term relationship with the man of her choice.
In short, there are both men and women who are seeking to marry; just as there are men and women seeking not to marry (and, even still, others who just haven't yet decided and remain "open" to the prospect). Thus, if marriage is TRULY on your agenda (and women DO seem to be a bit more reluctant to make this clear, much like men seem to be reluctant to make clear when they are TRULY interested solely in sex), it may be worth your while to expressly let your partner know this after being involved with him/her for a little while, so that he/she is put on notice of your desire and intent and can take appropriate action.  | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 8:50:16 PM | Vyper: you make much sense to me.
Passionandsong: I do not know who do you think you are but nobody can create their own individual laws: not even a lawyer can override family law or common law.
Want to change the law? Become a legislator.
Or You can always follow the advice of Uglybetty:
Live separate, keep your things separate, keep your space and visit when you have time. If it ends, there's nothing to fight over
Why would anybody feel compelled to marry or even simply living common-law? | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/3/2008 9:14:41 PM | hello.. ...dont know if any gay men put in their money's worth......but I am about to.
Even in the gay world, i shoudl say some, not all gay men are afraid of the word - in our terms "COMMITMENT"
Most of the like the freedom, and the fooling around now and then...but when it starts to look too serious - alot of them back off, ignore u, and just stop calling. I would have been in several commitments by several guys - but as it got too close - THEY BACKED OFF.
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/4/2008 1:20:46 AM | > but at one time legal marriage ment a man owned a women.
Sorry, but this oft-repeated bit of feminist folklore simply isn't true. A man couldn't just go sell his wife and go buy a new one. | |
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| Why are most men afraid of the M word?
Posted: 3/4/2008 6:26:17 AM | ^^or how about the fact that when she owned property before marriage it became his when they married... There was no 50/50 contribution or 50/50 work towards a future...It was 100% his.....
She could not get property in her name IF she was married - only if she was single. Seems it hasn't changed much. Even if a woman works and obtains property during marriage, the men are crying she took his stuff! The law only provides, at the most, in the U.S. 50/50 split of marital property. | |
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