| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/30/2008 1:20:16 PM | Getting rid of the IRS tickles the anarchist that lies inside all of Ron Paul's supporters.
Get real. If a 'fair tax' or 'consumption tax' were to be implemented then what agency would be needed to collect it? The IRS. I like some of his message but this is one that made him seem like a kook. He made it sound like getting rid of the IRS meant he would get rid of taxes. How would he get paid if he were to get rid of taxes? That goes for the rest of the Republicans who want to do away with taxation. They only want enough taxes to pay for their salary and healthcare and retirement plan but damn social security and medicare. Every American should have the same healthcare as the taxpayer funded government plan. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/30/2008 1:27:34 PM |
Get real. If a 'fair tax' or 'consumption tax' were to be implemented then what agency would be needed to collect it? The IRS.
Funny, I don't see the IRS collecting the sales tax I pay when I make a purchase, or the FEDERAL gasoline tax I pay at the pumps, or the FEDERAL telephone connectivity tax I pay every month. Am I missing something? | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/30/2008 1:49:10 PM | Sales tax is collected by the individual states' departments of revenue from the business owners who collect it from me at the point of sale. Gasoline tax is again collected at the point of sale by the merchant, which I believe is then collected by the US Dept. of Transportation, NOT the IRS.
To my knowledge the IRS only collects:
Individual and corporate income taxes, employment taxes, gift taxes, and estate taxes. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/30/2008 3:07:58 PM | The IRS is going to be around at least through the next couple of election cycles. Ron Paul is not getting elected. Someone needs to encourage him to run for offices which can springboard him into a viable candidacy.
Back to the topic. Let's recap why a candidate (Hillary Clinton) who has been pushed for 5 years by the media is now on the brink of the most humiliating party nomination defeat in U. S. history:
1. Bad strategy/tactics. Hillary ran a very poor campaign which was tailored to end at Super Tuesday. She originally hired a campaign manager who said at the outset that she wouldn't be able to serve through Election Day. Extremely stupid choice. Hillary's emphasis on her "experience" doesn't hold up under scrutiny, and she knows it. The line that she gained "experience" in her husband's administration lacks credibility. Also, from a tactical standpoint, her campaign doesn't handle mistakes well (such as the Bosnia air-strike lie).
2. Unlikeability/Lack of charisma Most people don't identify with Hillary, and they don't like her. The effort to appeal to working-class families is a joke. Hillary is not from working-class stock, and she doesn't really understand 9-to-5'ers. The elites don't like her either. She's aggressive and confident, and she's married to a master politician. Those are good assets, but they won't be anywhere near enough.
3. Negative campaigning Hillary has been perceived as arrogant and condescending toward her chief opponent, and has been reluctant to reign in subordinates who made controversial statements. You always have to appear to respect your opponent, and Hillary doesn't convey that.
4. Bill Clinton's baggage The Bill Clinton Administration was riddled with a lot of scandals, many of which involved Hillary directly. No one wants a repeat of that in another Clinton Administration. Given how polarizing and divisive Hillary is perceived to be, it's hard to see any other scenario than more scandals and internal chaos.
5. Attitude of entitlement/Birthright Both Hillary and many of her followers project the attitude that she somehow "deserves" the presidency, rather than it being incumbent upon Hillary to win over sufficient voters. Reliance on superdelegates to render a result is ridiculous. No other presidential candidate in recent memory has had that degree of fatalistic thinking in regard to a position.
6. Dishonesty/Lack of credibility This is the most disturbing reason that Hillary is losing. She's perceived as being dishonest, and it has happened often enough to be a character trait. Whitewater. Vince Foster. Travelgate. Bosnia. Belfast. Sir Edmund Hilary. Hillary is seen as a pathological liar.
Hillary's future lies in New York, not in the White House. There's already talk that the New York Governorship might open up after Paterson's term concludes. That might be an opportunity for Hillary. She could also be the Senate Majority Leader if she wants to stay in the U.S. Senate. Hillary will never be President. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/30/2008 8:40:20 PM | OMG,
in your wildest dreams.
Hillary will be Vice President for 8 years then President for another 8 years, and we will all be laughing and pointing at people like you, that spread your unique form of Bile that has no real substance, just a whole lot of conjecture. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/30/2008 9:44:07 PM | Every one of the recap points I mentioned (as reasons why Hillary is losing the nomination) has been proposed ad infinitum by pundits on both sides of the political spectrum as well as by many of the posters on this thread. In addition, when Obama gets the nomination, he's not likely to pick Hillary and has never indicated any inclination to pick her. It wouldn't be the strongest available ticket. Obama would be better off picking a seasoned person with tons of experience who is from anywhere but New York.
Hillary would sink a ticket if she's in either spot. She's not palatable to as many voters outside the Democratic party as other running mates would be (Evan Bayh and John Edwards come to mind). What people need to understand is that Hillary should be out of this process altogether. That's how the end-game of this chess match should play out. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/30/2008 10:53:22 PM |
Sure he didn't take on legions of carnivorous flying monkeys on the tarmac in Bosnia with both hands tied behind his back, but his resume shows something
Funn-EEE!!!!  | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/30/2008 11:32:00 PM |
Obama would be better off picking a seasoned person with tons of experience who is from anywhere but New York.
Hillary would sink a ticket if she's in either spot. She's not palatable to as many voters outside the Democratic party as other running mates would be (Evan Bayh and John Edwards come to mind). What people need to understand is that Hillary should be out of this process altogether.
If Obama picked Clinton as a running mate I would have to re-assess his decision-making skills and seriously doubt his wisdom in general.
LUCKILY, in this day of global warming, hell isn't about to freeze over.
James, Seattle, Washington, USA, Earth | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/31/2008 12:21:06 PM | | how about the sniper fire lie? if she lied about that, she would be one hell of a commander in chief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a whopper!!!!!!!!! | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/31/2008 5:18:53 PM | As for the Hildebeast replacing Paterson as the next NY governor, I DON"T THINK SO! Paterson is a good guy and probably will be voted back in again.
McCain=no good for commander in chief: warmonger, bad temper
Hillary=no good for commander in chief: liar, unable to control emotions (cries)
That leaves us with Obama=good for commander in chief: rational, logical thinking and ability to think clearly without emotions taking over.
McCain and Shillary should both be relegated to the trash heap of history: they both are trash!! | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/31/2008 5:36:41 PM |
As for the Hildebeast replacing Paterson as the next NY governor, I DON"T THINK SO! Paterson is a good guy and probably will be voted back in again. McCain=no good for commander in chief: warmonger, bad temper Hillary=no good for commander in chief: liar, unable to control emotions (cries) That leaves us with Obama=good for commander in chief: rational, logical thinking and ability to think clearly without emotions taking over. McCain and Shillary should both be relegated to the trash heap of history: they both are trash!!
Obama's a piece of C.F.R. trash, too.
Kiss America good-by if that traitor gets into office.
And he should be stupid enough to make Hitlery vice-President, watch him end up in the bushes like Vince Foster.
Hey.....on second thought.......  | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/31/2008 5:51:19 PM | how about the sniper fire lie? if she lied about that, she would be one hell of a commander in chief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a whopper!!!!!!!!!
No, a whopper was Ronald Reagon talking about the combat he saw in WWII. Only later did he realize that he spent the war in Hollkywood making movies.
Good thing he wasn't elected, he woulda made a horrible commander in chief. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/31/2008 6:00:57 PM |
Obama is a Constitutional Law Professor. just exactly what we need to restore our Nation. You must be kidding curious2no, or just trying to BS us.
and I Love pointing out to people that Washington, Jefferson, Adams, none of them had any experience in washington before they took office either. without checking my history book, I'm not sure if there was a White House when Adams was President. The reason Hillary is loosing, is that most people know her husband lied, now they are learning she lies too. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/31/2008 7:33:21 PM |
Kiss America good-by if that traitor gets into office.
WTF?!?! | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/31/2008 7:54:16 PM | Hillary is my parents generation...the baby boomers havent' managed to change things this far into the game, why give another one a shot?
Obama is new...whether he pulls it off or not, he is new...he is a different choice.
I know what I am going to get with Hillary, more of the last 20 years. To me that is why we are in this situation.
With Obama, he has a new idea, whether he can pull it off is anyones guess...but at least it is DIFFERENT then what is currently the status quo. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/31/2008 8:03:17 PM |
Obama's a piece of C.F.R. trash, too.
Kiss America good-by if that traitor gets into office.
Do you mind enlightening us with the facts about how Mr.Obama is a traitor and how you came conclusively to this revelation? | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 3/31/2008 8:07:13 PM | What do we have to lose Lodach when his record does show that he can and has done all he's saying he wants to do at a higher level. We know what we might get with Obama but know what we will definitely get with the others and it's not been working for a long time.
Of course a lot of people seem to know more about Obama than I do when they tell me he is in fact an alien from the third ring of Saturn intent on herding us all into slaughterhouses to feed his true leader... The Big Giant Head. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/1/2008 5:30:19 AM | Itechman42: Darling I am an Obama fan...maybe my post wasn't worded clearly enough. I am done with Hillary and I want to see Obama given the opportunity to try and change things.
Do I think he can change all the wrongs of the nation? No
Do I think he can start a discussion and inspire people to begin to change? Absolutely | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/1/2008 8:37:07 AM | | No doubt the man can inspire, how else could one explain how he shot from obscurity to political stardom in mere months?. Reaction is similar abroad as well. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/1/2008 10:54:08 AM | I am in complete agreement Lodach. I am just blown away by these whacky conspiracy theorists and one-minute geniuses on Obama. He's a muslim agent of Bin Laden, he's a Black Panther militant hell-bent on destruction of Whitey, he's the Anti-Christ, he has no experience and all he has is a speech. The facts do show he's not only qualified but that he already has done all that he says he now wants to do as President. There's a tighter thread of sincerity between his record and his campaign. I think we need this direction that may or may not work because our alternatives are policies and approaches that have proven not to be working for the past 20 years.
So I'm cool if someone says we shouldn't vote for Obama because he's too far left on issues. Or that we should consider Hillary or McCain because one believes their direction is what they most agree with. But the goofy crap coming out from between the ears of too many really is sad and irritating. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/1/2008 12:02:59 PM | We've seen a couple of students over the past week asking Chelsea about the Monica Lewinsky incident. It makes you think about that whole mess again. While I don't fault Hillary for standing by her man like Tammy Wynette, I do think that some voters have questions about the stability of her personal life. Despite what Chelsea says, it IS the business of the American people to some extent when there is infidelity going on involving the First Couple in the White House. I don't fault Hillary for how she handled the situation, but there is no question that many Americans see the Clinton marriage as a red flag which may affect decision-making in a future Clinton Administration.
We don't need that. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/1/2008 12:11:49 PM | | I do have problems with the child being asked those questions. Some say that since she's putting herself out there that she's asking for it, but I still find it very tasteless. She's trying to connect with her generation to support her mom, she doesn't need to be reminded that her dad betrayed her mom. Even if this was a marriage of convenience, it isn't to Chelsea. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/1/2008 12:19:03 PM |
Despite what Chelsea says, it IS the business of the American people to some extent when there is infidelity going on involving the First Couple in the White House. I don't fault Hillary for how she handled the situation, but there is no question that many Americans see the Clinton marriage as a red flag which may affect decision-making in a future Clinton Administration.
We don't need that.
Yet nobody ever brought that up when speaking about Kennedy, whom most consider to have bene a good president. Why is that? | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/1/2008 4:33:31 PM | Unfortunately, the ethics of the news media have changed in the last 45 years. The Kennedy affairs weren't actively reported during his Presidency, even though reporters knew about the rumors. If average Americans had known at the time about Kennedy's affairs, the backlash would have been much worse than it was for Bill Clinton in the 90's. It would be great to bring back a principle which says that those "private" matters shouldn't be reported, but that's not likely to happen. Every sexual escapade is fair game now.
The Clintons have too much baggage: the affairs, the lack of retaliation against Al Qaeda, the scandals. Hillary's shit is a little tainted. The smell is a little too rancid. There is no spin-doctor Ty-D-Bol quick-fix which is going to make people forget it. | |
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