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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/10/2008 8:37:19 PM |
f he spent his time trashing Hillary her more militant supporters would sit out. There seems to be a "Hillary or Nobody" kamikaze bent to her campaign already. The same applies to Obama, do you really think Obamamaniacs would vote for Hillary..come on cut the bull, all of you Obama worshipers would love for Hillary to drop out..then we can can have a racialist socialistic poser as President..notice how Obama always says things like "I would have had I known" its hard to believe someone so allegedly intelligent is so unaware of happenings around him... | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/10/2008 8:57:58 PM | | Just better prepared and more intelligent campaign strategy versus Clinton's again. He stays out of the fray within the party, gets Democrats thinking about the common 'enemy' seeing him as the source and the Republican as the opponent. He's fading Clinton into the background for voters subliminally because she's not in the picture in the campaigning against the Republican foe. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/10/2008 9:31:06 PM | Typical misdirection tactics by Hillary supporters..really why don't you site some great accomplishments of your candidate....so by using your logic, we should take the least experienced and least qualified since the experienced qualified ones didn't meet your standards?
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/10/2008 11:43:22 PM | Here...I'll just post it here, too...
During the first (8) eight years of his elected service Barack Obama sponsored over 820 bills, including:
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
Is that a paperless trail? You may not like his choices, say on gun control issues, you may point out that he didn't get all of them passed (that happens when even when your party holds a slim majority, as we all know) but he's definitely left evidence of what he worked on. Call it an average of 100 bills/year. I don't know the session of that legislature, but it seems he must've put out a bill about every two or three days, and there are lots of places that talk about how many more children he got covered by health care, so let's move on to the U.S. Senate, shall we?
His first year in the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427.
These included:
The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (still in committee), and many more.
Itech, what was that about a newspaper? LOL | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:57:43 AM | Here is Hillary Clinton's legislative record of Bills she has introduced which have become Law (note the sheer number of irrelevant bills):
•• Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site
•• Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month
•• Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor
•• Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall
•• Name courthouse after James L. Watson
•• Name post office after John A. O'Shea
•• Designate August 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day
•• Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day
•• Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death
•• Congratulate the Syracuse University Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
•• Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship
•• Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program
•• Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda
•• Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death
•• Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
Only five of Clinton's bills have been "substantive":
•• Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11
•• Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
•• Assist landmine victims in other countries
•• Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care
•• Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the Wilderness Preservation System
Hillary touts herself as an "experienced" candidate, but over half of these bills were introduced without a co-sponsor, and most of them have no relevance to ordinary Americans in their lives. While Obama and McCain were working across the aisle and actively pursuing important legislation, Hillary was checking out the dudes on Lacrosse teams across the country.  Maybe it's her revenge for Bill's many dalliances. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:03:43 AM | Meat vs. fluff. Well put in the comparisons of Obama vs. Clinton. Hillary is fluff, and Obama is the meat. He's the kind of guy who has worked on legislation that really matters. As for Hillary, who gives a flip about naming some post office after some guy? Gimme a break. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:36:17 AM | | HAHAHAHAHA! sorry, but "change we can believe in" is far from meat. give me a freaking break. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:43:05 AM | In the end, Mr. Obama chose neither to vote for nor against the bill. He voted “present,” effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator.
WOW, THIS IS A STAND UP GUY HUH! | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/11/2008 12:32:54 PM |
"Obama has actually served longer in public office than Hillary has. It's very true that he lacks executive experience, but so does she. Her bungling of health-care reform, along with her inability to control the financial expenditures and internal wrangling of her campaign, does not bode well for a prospective chief executive........
......I'd love to have a woman president -- but slippery Hillary, stolidly pumping and pumping her narcissistic bellows like a steam engine, just isn't it."
-----Camille Paglia
Hillary should look to quit after this next round of primaries. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/11/2008 6:14:49 PM | Latest News.....
Breaking from Newsmax.com
Obama Closing Superdelegates Gap
Barack Obama is gaining steadily on Hillary Clinton among Democratic superdelegates, nearly erasing her last advantage in a presidential race where those party insiders could be the ultimate kingmakers.
In a danger sign for Clinton, Obama over the past few months has sharply cut her lead among superdelegates — nearly 800 elected officials and party leaders free to back any candidate.
"Obama has won more delegates, he's won more votes, he's raised more money, and now you see it happening with superdelegates too," said Simon Rosenberg, head of the Democratic advocacy group NDN.
Neither Obama nor Clinton is likely to win enough pledged delegates in state contests to clinch the hard-fought battle for the Democratic presidential nomination, leaving superdelegates to decide the race. The Democratic nominee will face Republican John McCain in the November election.
Despite heavy courting by Clinton, most of the superdelegates who made up their minds since January backed Obama. Clinton's superdelegate lead dwindled to about 30 from 100 in that time.
A count by MSNBC gives Clinton 256 superdelegates to Obama's 225. Obama, an Illinois senator, has gained steam in the past month, winning more than two dozen new commitments, compared with a handful for Clinton, a New York senator.
"It has been a drip, drip, drip toward Obama," said Steven Schier, a political analyst at Carleton College in Minnesota.
"Superdelegates can see Obama's advantages growing, and it's pretty clear it's going to be very hard for Clinton to catch him," he said. "If Obama notches a few more victories, it could become a stampede."
Obama has suggested that superdelegates back the candidate with the most pledged delegates — he leads by about 130 — and popular votes. He leads Clinton by about 700,000 votes, excluding contests in Florida and Michigan that were not sanctioned by the national party.
Clinton has struggled to overtake Obama in the Democratic contest and has rejected calls from some Obama supporters to get out of the race.
More than 300 superdelegates remain uncommitted or have yet to be named, giving the candidate who wins the bulk of them a path to the nomination.
CLINTON TRIES TO CLOSE GAP
Clinton hopes a strong run in the last 10 contests starting April 22 in Pennsylvania will close the gap with Obama in pledged delegates and popular votes, bolstering her claim she is best suited to beating McCain.
The private battle for superdelegates has been as tough as the public campaign for votes, with both camps courting uncommitted party leaders and trying to keep supporters in line.
Clinton has suffered high-profile reversals like the decision by U.S. Rep. John Lewis of Georgia, a prominent black supporter, to switch to Obama. Another superdelegate ally, New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, suggested that backing a candidate who did not win the popular vote "would be a hard argument to make."
But she recently won the support of U.S. Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania and picked up three more superdelegates this week.
"Most superdelegates are in a holding pattern. They're waiting to see what happens in Pennsylvania and down the road before they make any decisions," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said.
Rosenberg said the recent string of superdelegate endorsements for Obama made that argument hard to swallow. "A substantial number have moved — and most are moving to Obama," he said.
Wayne Holland, chairman of the Utah Democratic Party and a superdelegate, endorsed Obama on Thursday. He said he thought Obama could help Democratic candidates throughout Utah and the West by attracting new voters, donors and volunteers.
"As state chair, my job is to try to elect as many Democrats in various offices in this state as possible," he said. "I was looking for who could best help us win here, and that was overwhelmingly Senator Obama."
© 2008 Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:52:24 PM | | Thank you, Faith. The article is on-point. Bill is continuing to lose some of his political finesse by regurgitating the Bosnia mis-statement fiasco. Desperation is permeating Hillary's campaign. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 6:01:00 AM | Snorky Said:
Anyway between Hillary and Obama... there is maybe 6 years experience of holding an elected government position...... and you want that to run THE United States of America.....
They both have about the same time in that regard, but my real question is this: What has the man IN THE WHITE HOUSE given this country with all of his experience? The entire 'experience' thing is a red-herring. Bush is PROOF that experience buys you crap.
Hell, after bush's 2nd election, you could say he had 4 years experience AS PRESIDENT, and he is still a stupid moron without a clue how to run a country (unless we're talking about running it into the ground).
Clinton's lying and negative campaigning looks all the worse when put up against Obama's campaigning style. And god knows, after 8 years, we need someone with a bit more honesty, respect, and style in charge.
James, SEattle, Washington, USA, Earth | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 7:35:57 AM | WHY IS HILLARY LOSING? Two main reasons: 1. Her vote to authorize force in Iraq. 2. Barack Obama's message of change and charasmatic way of speaking has been to powerful for her to overcome.
Also.....Hillary seems to say anything to get votes,while Obama speaks his honest thoughts and feelings on the issues. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 9:35:46 AM |
while Obama speaks his honest thoughts and feelings on the issues. If by this statement you mean that Obama and his wife think that Americans are racist oppressors and that as Americans we should feel shame then I guess you are right...Obama is proving the old adage "Time will tell" the more time Obama spends in the public eye the more his true feelings and beliefs surface...I wish the process were longer given enough time we might have seen Obama go the way of Dr Wright..... | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 9:37:43 AM | | actually barack ducks and dodges anything that can be used against him. that is why people have a hard time bashing his record, because he really doesn't have one. 130 "present" votes in the senate? what's he so scared of? | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 9:42:30 AM | | Honestly, I believe he was afraid that his agenda would become public knowledge before he achieved a rank or position high enough to allow him to implement changes that are in accordance with his ideological beliefs....on another note Obama supporters will never answer the question you posted in the other thread...they would rather employ diversionary tactics than deal with what Obama really believes and how he votes on controversial issues... | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 11:12:15 AM |
they would rather employ diversionary tactics than deal with what Obama really believes and how he votes on controversial issues...
That's OK if you want to discuss what Obama "really believes"....but you need to tie that in to the subject of this thread, which is "Why is Hillary losing".
Hillary is running largely on a claim of some kind of foreign policy experience. However, here is the record of the Bill Clinton Administration:
--1993 World Trade Center bombing
no retaliation against Al Qaeda by the Clinton Administration
--1998 U.S. Embassy bombing in Tanzania
no retaliation against Al Qaeda by the Clinton Administration
--1998 U.S. Embassy bombing in Kenya
no retaliation against Al Qaeda by the Clinton Administration
--2000 U.S.S. Cole bombing in Port of Aden, Yemeni
no retaliation against Al Qaeda by the Clinton Administration
Action in Somalia ----Failure
Action in Haiti--------Failure
Action is Bosnia------Partially Successful
Action in Rwanda----Failure
Action in the Darfur-Failure
Hillary is running on a record she doesn't have and on her husband's foreign policy record which wasn't successful. Cherry-picking the comments of other candidates (whether those of Obama or McCain) doesn't change the fact that Hillary's record is insubstantial. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 11:32:08 AM | Interesting post but you just took a major step at proving my point. Thank You!
No mention of Obama and his stance, voting record, statements policies etc...diversion diversion thats all your side can do because Obama really has little substance.. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 11:56:19 AM | Well, back to Hillary being "just Hillary" ..... 
PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (CNN) – Hillary Clinton used her trademark laugh Thursday to deflect a question about the $800,000 her husband earned in 2005 giving speeches for a Bogota-based group that supports the Colombia free trade agreement — the same trade deal she currently opposes.
Asked by CNN if those earnings represented a conflict of interest given that she has dipped into her family's pocketbook to pay campaign bills, Clinton threw up her hands and laughed loudly for several seconds.
"How many angels dance on the head of the pin?," she responded, continuing to giggle. "I have really, uh, nothing to … I mean, how do you answer that?"
The New York senator explained there are different sides to the argument over trade, and re-emphasized her own opposition to the trade deal, assailing the Colombian government's "outrageous" record of "targeting labor leaders."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/category/presidential-candidates/hillary-clinton/
Play both sides for what they are worth.....
Then laugh when someone brings it up for discussion. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 12:13:38 PM | No mention of Obama and his stance, voting record, statements policies etc.....
That's because this is a HILLARY thread, not an Obama thread. Actually, Obama's record and positions have been posted repeatedly on this thread, thanks to VioletSkye and DesigningWoman. Obama has a more substantive record than Hillary does. McCain has a more substantive record than Hillary, too. But, for the most part the discussion is about Hillary here. It's called staying on-topic.
Insolent: I'll ask you again to tie your criticism of Obama to your opinion of why Hillary is losing. Obviously, the tactic of dissecting and cherry-picking her opponents' comments (both Obama's and McCain's) hasn't been effective in the Democratic nomination race for her. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 12:35:21 PM | this thread could have been answered in one reply.
why is hillary losing?
because she's a f u c king psychopath. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 12:39:12 PM | I would say that we are the psychopaths for arguing about it for 25 pages when we knew the answer all along. 
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 12:46:57 PM | | I didn't say I wasn't a psychopath. I actually thought it was relatively obvious. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 4/12/2008 1:54:14 PM | A lot of Democrats oppose the Iraq War and Hillary voted for the war. People just want a change from the Bush Administration and the war enablers. They don't want the old politicians and they don't want Bill Clinton back in the White House.
Its just time for someone new. | |
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