| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 6:12:07 PM |
When Clinton has female supporters, they're all empty-headed feminists marching to her tune.
I've never once heard anyone say this. Provide a link where this has been even implied by a reputable source (youtube videos produced by 13 year old boys don't count-they are hardly reputable). I wonder why you feel that this is how people think. I have never once heard anybody say this.
Besides, most feminists despise Hillary.
As for smears against Obama? Good Lord, most of them originated with the Hillary camp.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8667.html
Plouffe was reacting to a banner headline on the Drudge Report saying that aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) had e-mailed a photo calling attention to the African roots of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).
"The photo, taken in 2006, shows the Democrat front-runner dressed as a Somali Elder, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya," the Drudge Report said. The photo created huge buzz in political circles and immediately became known as "the 'dressed' photo," reflecting the Drudge terminology.
Remember the photo of Obama dressed in traditional Muslim garb?
Or how about this one?
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13820.html
A day after the Hillary campaign hit the Obama camp for bullying voters in nasty phone calls, the Hillary crew has just acknowledged that an Iowa county chair volunteering for the campaign passed along the now-notorious email that smears Obama as a Muslim by repeating the false claim that he attended a madrassa as a child.
The Hillary campaign confirms that they are asking the county chair to step down from the campaign.
Or How about this one?
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html
A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."
"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."
Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
Here's something she said herself. She could have cleared the whole Muslim issue right up. Instead she used it as an opportunity to play dirty politics. To this day 11% of Americans believe he's Muslim.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200803/CUL20080303a.html
Pressed by the reporter about "taking Sen. Obama at his word," Clinton -- asked again if she believes he is Muslim -- continued: "No, no, why would I -- there's nothing to base that on -- as far as I know," she added. She emphasized the word "I."
I wonder why so many women seem to have so much invested in this politician? She is just a politician, and has revealed herself to be dirtier than your average politician. If she wins the nomination the Republicans will have a field day with her, thats why so many Republicans are switching and voting for her in the primaries.
Obama has been way too polite to dredge up her past scandals and criminal behaviour, the Republicans wont. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 6:14:57 PM | Simmah-
footnoted sources were-
Fox News
MSNBC
Huffington Post
The New York Times
Media Matters
The Washington Post
Drudge Report
showing examples of sexism in the media, the media which has handed Obama the nomination on a silver platter-
and the only thing you mention after reading? these two articles is a nutcracker with Hillary's face!!!
apparently you want to ignore the sexism-
"What we see depends mainly on what we look for." -John Lubbock | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 6:16:42 PM |
"What we see depends mainly on what we look for." -John Lubbock
Precisely sweetie, that's why you are seeing so much of it. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 6:28:57 PM |
Precisely sweetie, that's why you are seeing so much of it.
uninterested- hey d1ckhead-
so all the examples in these articles are examples of..........what? | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 6:33:24 PM | Yikes! I guess I shouldn't ask if you need one of my Pamprin?
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 6:55:42 PM |
Posted By: SimmahDahnNah on
Yikes! I guess I shouldn't ask if you need one of my Pamprin?
I think that she needs about 40 of them.
STAT.
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:07:06 PM | SimmahDahnNah, there was no requirement that the candidates names had to be removed from the ballots. It was a purely voluntary choice on Obama's part and some of the other candidates in Michigan and it was a calculated strategy based purely on self-interest:
Michigan, Iowa and the Games the Politicos Play
by: Lynda Waddington
Oct 11, 2007 at 15:09 PM
"Five individuals connected to five different campaigns have confirmed -- but only under condition of anonymity -- that the situation that developed in connection with the Michigan ballot is not at all as it appears on the surface. The campaign for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, arguably fearing a poor showing in Michigan, reached out to the others with a desire of leaving New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as the only candidate on the ballot. The hope was that such a move would provide one more political obstacle for the Clinton campaign to overcome in Iowa."
http://iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1264
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:09:56 PM | fred-
wow 40 huh?
thought I'd look up what 40 of these would do-
"Acetaminophen poisoning can result in severe hepatic damage. The minimum dose of acetaminophen that may cause hepatotoxicity in adults is generally considered to be 10 g, and a dose of 16 g is potentially lethal. However, there have been rare instances of hepatotoxicity and death reported from lower doses, and survival after much larger doses (up to 31 g) is common. "
so the lesson learned is-
don't bring up sexism as a topic because then you'll be patronized with "sweetie", offered a pamprin and some will even want you dead-
amazing!!! | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:11:42 PM | Oh, o.k. Philly. I'm sorry, I just don't believe it. That's all I can say. Did you have a look at the article I provided? There are plenty more that say virtually the same thing. He didn't pull anything like that in KY or WV, and look at the trouncing he got there.
Michigan dropped the ball in more ways than one in the hopes that we would have more of a voice if we cut in line. Reminds me of the Titanic.
And the fact remains, no matter what Obama did or did not do...that Hillary originally agreed to the rules and then changed her mind.
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:16:58 PM | Hey if this thing keeps going until June, and McCain's starts gaining ground due to all of this , I want to ask you to reserve one of those Pamprins for me - maybe several.  | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:24:34 PM | ^^^^^^^
well, MG, you better make sure that you can mix Pamprin with your viagra ! | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:24:50 PM | | I prefer Nuprins because they're little... yellow... different. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:25:46 PM | Don't need the latter, this election's my Viagra, my friend.  | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:30:51 PM |
And the fact remains, no matter what Obama did or did not do...that Hillary originally agreed to the rules and then changed her mind.
And Obama is not changing his mind now that he is claiming he wants the delegates from FL and MI to be seated? Now that he knows he is going to need those votes come the November election?
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:34:18 PM | | He'll get the votes, my friend. I saw an article the other day that said the delegates were actually slated to go wildly in favor of Obama. But I'd be interested in hearing where you saw he said he wants them seated? I haven't heard that one. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:47:02 PM | | We'll see in less than two weeks... either Hillary steps down or she is forced out. Superdelegates that come out for Obama to get her out plus the ones who have endorsed Obama in the last few months to hint the same will not go for her should she take it to the Convention barring a disaster. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:50:55 PM | Or Obama steps down or is forced out. How can you conduct a presidential campaign if you are incapable of speaking off the cuff on any issue?
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:07:08 PM | Look at what Bush was running against...
It would have been hard for Bush to lose.
Inability to communicate = you won't say something that is comprehensible enough to be harmful to yourself.
And the only way Bush could have lost VS Kerry or Gore would have been for Bush to be EXTREMELY stupid.
And at the rate Hillary and Obama are going...
All McCain will have to do to win in Nov is:
SHUT UP.
Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber are doing a fine job of trashing each other without McCain having to do a thing.
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:07:53 PM | "so the lesson learned is-
don't bring up sexism as a topic because then you'll be patronized with "sweetie", offered a pamprin and some will even want you dead"
LOL - yeah, but don't you try and play the gender card there! After all, it's just bad jokes and bad taste and a little gentle ribbing, right? | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:09:24 PM | uninterested -
"I've never once heard anyone say this. "
Have you read this thread?
"Provide a link where this has been even implied by a reputable source"
I didn't attribute the comment to the general media. You're jumping to a conclusion that you want to reach, because you want to argue that I'm wrong. | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:13:44 PM |
You're jumping to a conclusion that you want to reach
Pot, meet kettle.
You don't see how your own comment was jumping to a conclusion, especially since you admit it was just an opinion of yours? | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:21:28 PM | | which comment? Was that a specific allegation, or just buckshot hoping something would land? | |
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| Why is Hillary losing?
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:23:43 PM |
When Clinton has female supporters, they're all empty-headed feminists marching to her tune.
That one, but I'm sure I can find more if you'd like, Mary Sunshine. | |
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