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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 3:49:20 AM | | I'd have to say the whole damn world was better off 50 years ago. Repect and commitment is a thing of the past nowdays. It's all deposable, if your tired of it, just throw it away and get a new one. A VERY sick world we live in now. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 3:54:47 AM | I would love to go back 50 years and live there.
If some built a time manchine please send me back!!!
I would gladly give up my rights that I have now
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I love working dont get me wrong so I aint a lazy person wishing to go back
but seriously I would love to be more respected and held in a better
regard. I want manners and morales to come back! | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 4:44:00 AM | Hahahaha... Better off 50 years ago.. They have never had it so good today..
50 years ago if you left your husband you were on your own a left to tough it out.. Nowdays they just rape and piliage every guy and leave a trail of destruction along the way carrying their baggage from one fella to another in the pursuit of ASSETS !!
The government does not make it any easier, they give them incentives for leaving and pilaging guys left right and center.. Better off now than they have ever been.. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 6:17:41 AM |
I would gladly give up my rights that I have now
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This has got to be the stupidest thing ever written and written by a young women who has every oportunity in front of her because alot of women and men fought for something that she takes for granted. Perhaps with that level of intelligence you shouldnt be allowed to vote so maybe that wouldnt be a bad thing in the long run! Just exactly how do you think you are gonna be respected when you are chattel or property? Manners and Morals have no connection with your right to vote and the right to own your own home. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 6:39:15 AM |
A good friend of mine came up with a theory the other day. That women in the 1950s were better off then women today.
A good friend of mine came up with a theory the other day. That women in the 1950s were better off then women today.
Now granted he said that women have more opportunities and generally are more independant than in the 1950s, who were genally stay at home moms, but the treatment and respect for women has drastically dropped...from both men and other women.
Generally, he believed that men were more respectable and dedicated to their partners, friends, and familes in the 1950s then they are now. There was a code of ethics.
If I had a choice I would have chosen 1950s (to be in my early to mid 20s) and I would have picked USA as my country of choice and or second choice would have been my birth country...........there was more to life then. In the countries I chose life was about living it to the fullest............women were highly respected and women had enough freedom to excel ......... although probably not so true for the working class of that era. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 8:49:58 AM |
This has got to be the stupidest thing ever written and written by a young women who has every oportunity in front of her because alot of women and men fought for something that she takes for granted. Perhaps with that level of intelligence you shouldnt be allowed to vote so maybe that wouldnt be a bad thing in the long run! Just exactly how do you think you are gonna be respected when you are chattel or property? Manners and Morals have no connection with your right to vote and the right to own your own home.
Umm... just because her view is different from yours, does not give you license to call her stupid.
It's freedom of speech. Try persuading her instead. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 3:15:58 PM | Very few of the younger population of North America have respect or appreciation for the hardship that men endured to bring the rights and freedoms to them that everyone now enjoys ......and in comparison there are very few who respect or appreciate the hardships that women endured throughout history who worked so hard to bring the rights and freedoms that the "women's movement" has brought to them either.
Feminism is a "dirty word" to most men of my generation and most don't want anything to do with a woman who even breathes the word, but it also improved the lives of Caucasian Men and Black Afro American and Indian men and women.
One example is......if a husband becomes sick or disabled short-term or long-term, his wife now has the right to gainful paid employment..........thus ensuring the family's survival. Another is, the "women's movement" gave Black Afro-American's the added edge they needed to gain freedom from Caucasian men who forced them into "unpaid labors" or slavery. North American Indians had almost the "perfect culture and a balance for family life" which was nearly destroyed due to ignorance and lack of understanding for them. The women's movement had a heavy hand in restoring and helping them re-gain their sense of pride.
But like any great concept or idea...............it can be pushed to the extreme and turned into something ugly...............and that in itself is yet another war to be fought silently and free of bloodshed.  | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 3:34:27 PM | | Another benefit to men from the women in the workplace is improvement of work conditions. Nobody b1tches and complains better than some women, and most people assign more value to women's concerns. This has resulted in many work environment improvements that were not and would never have been granted to men. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 4:36:10 PM | | I would have done real well in the 50s. I would love to be a housewife, stay home and take care of the house, my husband and child. Leave the earning to him. I think most women then were so proud of family and the wife held the family together. Now, yes, we are sometimes treated with disrespect because of the control that we portray. I have experienced rudness at times. I want to be treated like a royal lady. :) | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 5:28:34 PM | To answer Op question,
No they werent better,they had an easy life comparing with women of today.So the question should rather be 'Were men better off 50 years ago'?And I would say Yes since at that time he realized that his child needed a mothers care and even a fathers.The men of today call it equality that the women have to ...work,take care of the children etc Hmmm is that equal | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 5:58:07 PM | | yes offcourse, i agree with you because the woman nowadays has been made as a model and sex symbol by the industrialization, | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 6:02:15 PM | | Yes. I think EVERYONE was better off in the 50s though. The values were stronger and people could feel more secure in commitments. Furthermore, it was a more practical system with someone to take care of the house and kids and someone to take care of the bills. Now everyone is stuck trying to do everything and feeling ripped off and overwhelmed. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 6:06:31 PM |
I would gladly give up my rights that I have now
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This has got to be the stupidest thing ever written and written by a young women who has every oportunity in front of her because alot of women and men fought for something that she takes for granted.
It's not something many women have the courage to admit because they will get slammed by people like you, but I bet lots feel this way deep down. I do. Not all "forward progress" is good. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 7:10:04 PM | WOW. Think about women at that time who weren't living in the idealized '50's family - think of the ones who didn't marry and have someone to "take care of them" and couldn't get a good job and take care of themselves, the wives who were abused and had no option to leave, or ones who had children outside of marriage and were forced into adopting out their babies, the ones who were mentally ill and locked up in institutions because their husbands had that authority. THAT was reality in the 50s for some women!
Honestly, I think the above posters' wishes (aussie & yearofthecat) are more of the desire to maybe live in a simpler time, one where women were perceived to have more respect (even though alot didn't), and the roles were defined, where the choice of staying home and take care of one's kids and home isn't looked at as a bad thing. I was a mother who chose to stay home with her kids, and in this society it is seen as "lazy", although I wouldn't have traded one second of staying home with my babies and taking care of my home for that "career". I AM looked down upon for that choice, that is a fact, so I don't even give out that information. And now that I am over 40 and trying to get back into the work force and adjust after a divorce, I am sure paying financially for that choice! But at least I have options that back in the '50's women didn't have. The stigma alone of a divorced woman in the '50s was awful!
Yeah, I'd have to say, I would NOT want to go backwards as far as women's rights, although the nuclear family (which is being destroyed) was much much better for our children, and society. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 7:14:38 PM | If everyone wants the 50's back.................they would have to learn to keep their pants pulled up until after marriage and only take them off in front of their SO, because the only form of birth control was low-quality condoms.
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 7:32:54 PM | Better off are you kidding?
Wringer type washers ...line dry.. had to iron everything because there was nooo wash and wear but lots of 100% cotton clothing and stinky wool.
Meals were all made from scratch no microwaves.... Kids!...lots of kids ... no birth control...cloth diapers...I don't see how any woman could have had an ounce of fat on her in those daze...Home Permanents yikes!!!
Yep you men had it easy...men's privileges existed because women did housework.  | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/4/2008 11:30:58 PM | It seems that some wome have confused 1950 for 950...obviously none of you have seen "Happy Days", "Grease", or "American Graffitti", I think that was what my friend was referring to when he said it was better off 50 years ago...I think a boy with a ducktail was much more respectful to a women then a boy with a sideways baseball hat, and jeans that would make a plumber blush.
Likewise there seems to be some real pressure for women to be independant, strong, and better than men. Look no one has to better than anyone else...it's ok for women to cry and be needed...I think what society has done is make women have to be superwoman...you need no man, you go girl mentality...however, not all women can like that like all men can't super sensitive guy. Men and women can't just be real anymore, they have to something more. What really feeds this women have to be superior stuff and creates a real battle of the sexes stuff, much like one of the earlier posts about the women a lunch telling men jokes...is the media. How many commercials show strong, powerful, intelligent, independant women uping the stupid, moronic, insecure man. It's not reality. Women have to equal to men, not like men...they don't have to show up men, they just have to be women.
Anyways that's my rant...now I'm going down to the malt shop, plugging the jukebox, and getting myself a soda. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/5/2008 12:25:57 AM | Yep you men had it easy...men's privileges existed because women did housework.
And women did only housework because there was a MAN working his ass off to support himself, her and all the children.
Men. So easy to forget abou us... until we're not there. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/5/2008 12:39:16 AM | welllllllll women kinda bring it on themselves too. I mean the whole sex object thing is tolerated and some women encourage it.
so was it betterback in the 1950s? I think so. I think life was a lot less hectic and simpler. People spent more time with eachother too and developed better relationships I think. Where as now divorces are common and people are generally unhappy with themselves and their lives. We're so consumed with who has the better toys and our jobs to realize what really matters.
However I dont think all men treat women like the way you described. I know if my dad treated my mom like that she'd smack his arse back to Mars. | |
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/5/2008 12:41:55 AM | el Loco1965.............I think you have tickled the keyboard with the right notes in your comments.
50 years ago when men had all the rights and women had next to none, the men lorded it over women's heads and women responded with hatred, anger, frustration and a lack of respect.
Now that women have equal rights, women are lording it over men's heads (claiming superiority) and men are responding with hatred, anger, frustration and a lack of respect.
This was soooooooooo NOT THE POINT in women gaining equality. Women are now stooping to the "bad guy" level. Shame on you ladies for bringing the rest of your female gender down to this level.  
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/5/2008 1:29:05 AM | it is easier for those who does not want to raise children, but not for those who wants to have a family. Having family is extremely difficult nowadays, the divorce rates are high, less people are getting married, but society is more unhappy than in 50s.
well, we live in broken society and nothing good is happening at the moment, and it is still going to be worse.personally, I am scared of becoming old, did you ever thought about it?
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| Were women better off 50 years ago?
Posted: 3/5/2008 8:07:21 AM | I just wanted to respond to el Loco regarding Happy Days, Grease, etc. Do you remember Fonzie and even good-boy Richie, how they treated women? Fonzie treated women like sex objects and so did Richard and his other buddies (Potsie and Ralph Malph)... their obsession was how to score with women and be like Fonzie. I don't think that was respecting women. Grease was more of the same! At the end of the movie Sandy turns into a slut to please her man! I never saw American Graffiti so I can't respond to that; however - respect for women!? That isn't respect, it is just more of what women get now, objectification! I don't think those ducktail boys were respectful to women at all!
However I do agree with your second paragraph, it really struck a chord with me. I know for myself I feel alot of pressure to be everything - as tough as men, almost denying my femininity, to be seen as equal. Maybe deep down I feel less than a man, so that makes me want to try even harder to be "equal" or superior - which as you pointed out, shouldn't be the goal, as men and women are different, neither better or worse. | |
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