Agapis
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Joined: 3/20/2008
Msg: 101 | |
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Agapis
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Joined: 3/20/2008
Msg: 102 | |
| perpetual energy and other promising inventions
Posted: 8/26/2008 11:56:05 AM |
But I am assuming that since fusion is a promising source of energy, the amount that you would need to put in to break the bonds and fuse the nucleons would be less than what is released...otherwise why even pursue the technology, no?
absolutely. apparently the output is 100+ times more than the input.
and the NIF uses an arrar of over 100 lasers, so im guessing that this goes someway to countering the wavelength problem. | |
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Agapis
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Joined: 3/20/2008
Msg: 103 | |
| perpetual energy and other promising inventions
Posted: 8/26/2008 12:06:33 PM | in fact, on further study, the x-rays of the laser (concentrated in high energy, over a matter of picoseconds) is enough to heat the fuel to millions of degrees, and this alone, is enough to generate fusion.
and while we're here, most of the energy is released as heat, through the helium/alpha particles, NOT the leftover neutons.
i think NIF explain it better.
https://lasers.llnl.gov/programs/nic/icf/how_icf_works.php
http://www.hiper-laser.org/fusion/storyboard.asp
https://lasers.llnl.gov/science_technology/fusion_science/fast_ignition.php | |
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Posted: 8/26/2008 12:14:01 PM | | I just surfed to your link and read about the technology. The science sounds quite clever. Using the shockwave and recycling the high-energy particles back to do work on heating the fuel further. The process is obviously much different than I originally speculated. Which doesn't surprise me....something like stable fusion, which has evaded scientists for so long, required a clever and imaginative solution like this....Will definitely have to keep track on this technology in the next few years...between this and the LHC it seems that there is a lot of promising and exciting science just ahead of us...thanks for the links! | |
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Posted: 8/26/2008 3:29:39 PM | in fact, the ONLY rebuttal you had, was for my troll comment. no input on ANYTHING else.
Nope. I responded to the use of platinum, as well.
If you were capable of being a nicer person, you might get more conversation from people. Being online is not an open invitation to be rude. Have a nice day. | |
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Agapis
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Joined: 3/20/2008
Msg: 106 | |
| perpetual energy and other promising inventions
Posted: 8/26/2008 11:10:04 PM |
between this and the LHC it seems that there is a lot of promising and exciting science just ahead of us
absolutely. the next 15 years are going to see some unimaginable breakthroughs. i could even be out of a job lol.
here is a timeline of expected events at the LHC, according to CERN:
2009
one version of supersymmetry, an extension of the standard model that would double the number of known particles
2010
the Higgs boson, the final piece of the standard model
2012
extra dimensions of space-time (there are many such models--this represents one possibility)
2014
"compositeness" or additional pieces inside of quarks, which make up protons and neutrons and are thought to be indivisible
Note: beyond this point, the LHC would have to be upgraded to the "super" LHC
2017
a higher-energy form of supersymmetry
2019
new forces beyond the four we know of (electromagnetism, the weak and strong nuclear forces, gravity)
That's provided that the LHC doesnt create a VACUUM BUBBLE which reduces the Earth to a cloud of hot gas.
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Posted: 8/27/2008 3:15:58 AM | Where did all of our conspiracy theorists that believe big oil is suppressing perpetual motion go?
I'm also curious agapis, as an aeronautical engineer how deep into physics did you get to go? (I guess a title of a course or something would be good... or the deepest branch of phyics.
and desertrhino, how much physics have you studied? | |
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Agapis
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Joined: 3/20/2008
Msg: 108 | |
| perpetual energy and other promising inventions
Posted: 8/27/2008 4:05:41 AM | well, as far as my physics is concerned, my official education (BEng Aerospace systems engineering) covered Newtonian mechanics (in general), thermofluid mechanics, propulsion, aerodynamics,electronics,plus some CAD stuff and MATLAB.and maths.and other stuff.
i would say "continuum mechanics" is my general area of physics (officially and academically).
so in answer to your question: as an aeronautical engineer, i havent delved as far as id like to.
but i felt that it would give me a basis for a better understanding of physics as a whole, particularly in thermodynamics, which is why i chose the course.
prior to that i did 2 years (including foundation)of BSc Applied Science & Technology (was beneficial, as i was mature student), which covered basic nuclear physics, and some nuclear chemistry too. | |
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Agapis
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Joined: 3/20/2008
Msg: 109 | |
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| perpetual energy and other promising inventions
Posted: 8/30/2008 5:02:36 AM | Here are a couple of inventions that might interest some.
First two links are for an overunity water heater. It does not state how the overunity is measured, but either way the efficiency is very high.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOM2GnQluJk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw&NR=1
This one is an Australian invention which has still never reached the free to air news nor any science or current affairs program that I know of nor the public for public use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efCelx7qe_M
or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvBPiPBozU
Here's one on the PEREPITEIA Generator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogLeKTlLy5E | |
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Posted: 8/30/2008 6:06:45 PM | | There's much more to zero-point energy "sources", fusion, anti-gravity propulsion and other "concepts" than the population at large are allowed to be aware of from what I gather. It's certainly not in the best interests of the global industrial complex to allow everyone to know things like these. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 5:41:12 AM | A few more interesting very promising inventions kept from the public.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHXw1QkqV9w&feature=related
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also Joe Cell
http://www.free-energy.ws/lindemann-1.html
www.byronnewenergy.com
Happy viewing and reading all.
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Posted: 9/3/2008 9:31:01 AM | Re msg 113
If anyone finds anything they are threatened, killed, financially ruined, lambasted, ridiculed, there work is converscated, bought out, destroyed etc and never reaches the light of day. I know this through close personal experience.
So forget the BS, you're talking to somebody who knows the facts.
And I don't need thousands of written testimonies to prove it to you or anyone else.
People who live in dark caves NEVER see the light. Or pehaps you're one of the propaganda spreaders.
People who deny proven technologies have reasons. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 10:02:08 AM |
Re msg 113
If anyone finds anything they are threatened, killed, financially ruined, lambasted, ridiculed, there work is converscated, bought out, destroyed etc and never reaches the light of day. I know this through close personal experience.
So forget the BS, you're talking to somebody who knows the facts.
They're not facts unless you can substantiate them.
No offense, but until then you're not saying anything that every other conspiracy theorist has not said before.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory
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Posted: 9/3/2008 5:38:28 PM |
If anyone finds anything they are threatened, killed, financially ruined, lambasted, ridiculed, there work is converscated, bought out, destroyed etc and never reaches the light of day.
There was one correct adjective in there! Why is it so hard to figure out that it is impossible to get more energy out of a system than one puts into it? | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 9:06:35 PM | Re msg 116
So you don't get more energy from a nuclear bomb than what's put into it ?
If everyone accepted what is believed to be fact then there would no electricity no telecommunications no cars no spaceflight no medicine etc.
So we just sit on our behinds and stop investigative science and do not accept there is still more to be discovered than you've ever been taught.
Old cliche's don't advance science, neither does ignorance.
Re msg 115
I am well aware of what a conspiracy theory is and don't need a government censored encyclopedia to be brainwashed by. No offense intended but it's basically a work which contains what certain people want it to and does not contain what they do not want it to. I'm not into fictional works of that kind.
I also have no need to substantiate the facts I know re certain cover ups. If you don't believe cover ups exist then I am sorry for you.
What was the magic words ' Saddam has a nuclear program, nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction which can be launched at any time etc etc'. Mr Oswald shot the the president. Ha Ha Ha the list goes on.
http:// no; Oxford English Dictionary - ignorance.
When will people stop living like they're blind and deaf, and do some REAL research into things. Keep the masses in the very dark darkness and feed them BS and they won't rebel. Knowledge is a weapon, do not let them get it under any circumstances.
Many scientific breakthroughs took years even centuries to be accepted because of the uneducation/de-education of the masses. Things haven't much have they. Just keep them paying through the nose they don't know any better and that's the way 'they' want to keep it. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 9:38:21 PM | | what they should be saying is that energy like matter can neither be created nor destroyed. It can be converted from into matter or from matter into energy. in the case of a nuclear bomb you're not actually getting more out than you put in. More work than YOU put in manufacturing the thing but the energy that gets released during the explosion is energy that's already there when you construct the bomb. It's in the form of the uranium. | |
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Posted: 9/3/2008 11:00:26 PM | For other promising suppressed inventions take a look at post 174 thread Run any combustable engine on water this includes any car.
I know it's converting matter into energy, but less energy is used to make the bomb than is released in the explosion. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 7:13:26 AM |
Talk about suppressed technologies ???
And I never said it was free either. But the HHO is able to be produced efficiently enough now to make it very viable. In fact the super electrolysis process now can run you car completely on water only from the power your alternator produces using the Stan Meyer Process !!!
HHO is not suppressed technology. Anyone go out and buy a hydrogen fuel kit and produce their own gasoline.
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Posted: 9/4/2008 7:20:35 PM |
So forget the BS, you're talking to somebody who knows the facts.
I'm game. Explain the so-called facts in mathematical terms that prove your assertion. If you know what you are talking about that should be trivial. | |
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Posted: 9/4/2008 7:27:39 PM |
There's much more to zero-point energy "sources", fusion, anti-gravity propulsion and other "concepts" than the population at large are allowed to be aware of from what I gather.
Feel free to point me toward a MATHEMATICAL treatise and I'll shoot it down. I've studied this (the real) shit and I know enough to spot bs, not to mention knowing who a number of the perennial bs-ers are. | |
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