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Posted: 6/13/2006 11:39:41 AM | I did a search on pitbull attacks and get more hits than britney spears sites!!
Ignorance really is bliss, isn't it ? How can one really expect to gain knowledge, on any one subject, by doing a biased search? Good god...some people never cease to amaze me!! This one such example, has just displayed exactly how profoundly some people's intellectual abilities are lacking!!
I did an UNBIASED search..........
NATIONAL CANINE RESEARCH FOUNDATION
Fatal Dog Attacks - CANADA
Fatal Dog Attacks - Canada: 1983 - 2003
1983 (2) Farm Dogs Roaming dogs kill child (Edmonton)
1987 (1) German Shep X Chained dog attacked child (Vernon)
1988 (1) German Shep Unsupervised child (Quebec)
1990 (1) Chow Chow Attack on newborn (Ontario)
1993 (1) Sled dogs Chained dogs kill child (N.W.T.)
1993 (5) Sled dogs Attacked by loose dogs (Alberta)
1994 (1) Maremma Sheepdog Family dog killed child (Ontario)
1995 (2) Am Staffs Drunken man provoked dogs (Ontario)
1995 (2) German Sheps Killed by uncle's dogs (Saskatchewan)
1996 (?) Strays Child killed by stray dogs (Manitoba)
1997 (1) Sled dog Chained dog w/pups (Saskatchewan)
1998 (?) Sled dogs Pack chained on sea ice (Iqaluit)
1998 (1) Bullmastiff Playing w/neighbor's dog (Ontario)
1998 (8) Lab/Huskies Xs Mother & son killed by pack (Newfoundland)
1998 (6) Strays Boy killed by strays (Manitoba)
1999 (1) Husky X Neighbor's dog (British Columbia)
1999 (1) Husky One of 24 chained dogs (Quebec)
1999 (1) Husky X Grandfather's dog (N.W.T.)
1999 (?) Strays Girl killed by starving dogs (Alberta)
2002 (2) Lab X & Rott Attacked in field (Ontario)
2003 (3) Rottweilers Boy wandered into yard (New Brunswick)
2003 (4) German Shep Xs Grandmother's dogs (Manitoba)
So...there are the facts...and these are for Canada alone. Now tell me, exactly how many attacks are due to Pit Bulls...hmmmmm?
Another question. The unpredictability and ferociousness of the Pit Bull (that some say they possess),.....do you think these are the reasons that this beautiful and proud breed was used by emergency rescue personnel in 9-11?
I don't mind debating a subject, with a challenging opponent...infact, I rather enjoy it. But, for those that refuse to look at both sides, and have valid veiws, it gets rather boring. Until three such people, by some miracle, obtain even a smidgen of intellect...I'm am not going to bother. One can't argue with ignorance.....ignorance always wins. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 11:50:56 AM |
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html
Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)
Other breeds were also responsible for homicides, but to a much lesser extent. A 1997 study of dog bite fatalities in the years 1979 through 1996 revealed that the following breeds had killed one or more persons: pit bulls, Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas. (Dog Bite Related Fatalities," Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, May 30, 1997, Vol. 46, No. 21, pp. 463 et. seq.)
These facts support the idea that dog attacks are pretty closely related to breed specificity. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 12:35:04 PM | I live with an American Staffshire Terrier & hes a great dog. He was raised PROPERLY!!!! He goes to the dog park nearly everyday & playes great with other dogs & people. Since last Aug he has to wear a muzzle 
Canada's # 1 breed of dog that bites are Golder Retrevers!! I don't know how many of those beasts have charged me & tried to sink their teeth into me. Luckly they are perfect hight to receive a soccer kick to the head!
2yrs ago I was walking a 13yr old large dog. She walked show & was fairly weak. A stupid Jack Russel Terrier charged snarling & tried to attack her.. he became an airborn football & the owner had the nerve to yell at me.. the poor old dog was 1/2 on the ground cause she couldn't support the JRT's weight hitting her.. she also didn't even try to fight back as shes too old & weak to... 2 other times that same dog came after me (when I was returning from work)... darn thing must have enjoyed being an airborn football.
My RB dog was attacked by loose labs, goldens, JRT (a different one, this guy was hanging off my dogs neck!)... My guy was part Pit Bull & NOT ONCE did he flip out & try to kill anything or one.
I think it was 10yrs ago when I was attacked by 2 goldens.. ya that wasn't fun.. sure there was no blood lost, but I still nearly had a heart attack! These HUGE beasts came charging at me, knocked me down & as I tried to get up, each grabbed a leg & tried to pull my legs off.. Luckly they didn't like being punched in the face & they backed off. But I could tell they wanted to bite again, so I had to keep an eye on them as I slowly walked away.
What ALL the dogs above had in common was that they were NOT trained at all!!! I worked with 2 Guard Rotties & they NEVER had issues. When I gave a command the did it. 1 crazy neighbour (she had a history of hurting the Rotties) brought a trained killer Mastiff over to our yard!! my Friend (true owner of 1 of the rotties & it was her house) was working her dog out (retractable leash tied to the 4 wheeler & driven around the yard at the dogs own pace with a spotter on the back with a box of dog treats).. Well my friend was giving her dog a cool down in the cool dirt under her tree when she, hears the lady provoke the Mastiff (we knew it wasn't her dog) & told it to kill & set it free. My friend had no time to react & commanded the rottie to get into the house.. he tried, but the Mastiff was too fast.. Everytime my friend called her Rottie off, he did all he could to run a few feet to obey the command before he was attacked again. Luckly her Rottie got one good chomp & shake in & he was able to make it inside the house. Poor guy was a bloody mess, but he would have been killed if it wasn't for the HUGE doubled spiked collar I invested in getting him.
I think people MUST get training & have a licence in order to own a dog!! In order to prove you are licenced to have a dog "at" your house you need a special sticker on your door/mailbox, so neighbours/strangers know 1. there are dogs living there & 2. that if they see a dog in a yard with no sticker, the law can deal with them pronto... Then each dog needs to be assesses yearly by the vet. If the dog shows signs of agression, a muzzle MUST be worn at all times outside of the house, regardless of the breed.. As a 5p pomeranian killed a baby a few yrs ago!! | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 12:37:01 PM | | Some of you make me sad to belong to the human race (probly why i prefer to spend time with my KILLING MACHINES) You are so blinded by the media (who btw are only interested in the SENSATIONAL stories)(wasnt there a song about that "is the head dead yet?"). Lets see what else we should ban,cars,trucks,bullets (banning guns wont work cuz its the bullet that does the deed),we should ban all eating utencils too EVEN spoons (you could scoop out an eye),havent a few police officers killed or hurt innocent people too? We should ban them too. HEY heres a great idea LETS BAN IDEAS, YEAH that way everyone would think the same, act the same, look the same. but then we would have to ban thinking, looking, & acting like someone else. Thats it, keep banning things you dont know anything about. Just remember when they come to "ban" something you hold precious,or brings you happiness, theyre just doing it for your own good & the safety of the public. Thats gonna mean NO MORE TWINKIES (you know who im talkin to) & YOU, take that diaper off yer head i think its FULL & falling down over your eyes. Oh im sorry was that a racist or discriminatory remark? Get over it you dont know me, just as you dont know my dogs. Get a life & stay the hell out of mine. PEACE | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 12:37:21 PM | KCNEWF--- your own post shows your 2 examples. The so called vicious attack of the 13 year old boy was a scratch on his hand. The pit could have ripped him to shreds if that was his nature or intension. The pit wanted no part of biting that human he was doing what was in his instinctive nature and attacking the other pit. The boy may have been frightened but was not attacked at all.
The incedent with the old man was a mix breed dog not a pure strain of any so called pitbull how do we know the aggressive nature of that mix has anything to do with his being part pit. He may have gained his strength from the pit side and his demeaner from the poodle,****r, lab, or whatever he was mixed with.  | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 12:41:30 PM | DesertMagick
Some of you make me sad to belong to the human race (probly why i prefer to spend time with my KILLING MACHINES) You are so blinded by the media (who btw are only interested in the SENSATIONAL stories)(wasnt there a song about that "is the head dead yet?"). Lets see what else we should ban,cars,trucks,bullets (banning guns wont work cuz its the bullet that does the deed),we should ban all eating utencils too EVEN spoons (you could scoop out an eye),havent a few police officers killed or hurt innocent people too? We should ban them too. HEY heres a great idea LETS BAN IDEAS, YEAH that way everyone would think the same, act the same, look the same. but then we would have to ban thinking, looking, & acting like someone else. Thats it, keep banning things you dont know anything about. Just remember when they come to "ban" something you hold precious,or brings you happiness, theyre just doing it for your own good & the safety of the public. Thats gonna mean NO MORE TWINKIES (you know who im talkin to) & YOU, take that diaper off yer head i think its FULL & falling down over your eyes. Oh im sorry was that a racist or discriminatory remark? Get over it you dont know me, just as you dont know my dogs. Get a life & stay the hell out of mine. PEACE
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Posted: 6/13/2006 1:18:04 PM | Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States
Oh my goodness....a smidgen!!
Now look a little closer to what you have posted.
revealed that the following breeds had killed one or more persons: pit bulls, Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas.
"The following breeds that have killed one or more persons". So, were Pit Bulls responsible for one or more? It does not state in your "research", now does it?
So, since all of these breeds have the ability to kill or maim a human being...what are you suggesting? Kill them all?!! Pa-leeeese...let's be realistic here.
Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992
Those are some pretty olds stats you have there....more than likely, at a time when the media had total control of what the public saw as fact....not to mention, what the intended use of most Pit Bulls were then. I had a look at the site you provided.... This was in a time where these beautiful animals were exploited and used for the pure inhumane purpose of dog-fighting ('79 thru approx. '92) Since then, strict laws have banned such activity. Granted, this ban has not been able to totally erradicate all of those who abuse Pit Bulls in this way, from owning and fighting them, but it has significantly reduced the number of monsters who were purchasing Pit Bulls, for that one sole purpose.
These facts support the idea that dog attacks are pretty closely related to breed specificity.
That may be so...but, you neglect to take into account that most Pit Bulls were bred...at that time (1979 and and a few years passed) for the pupose of dog fighting. This is by no means, holds true for the Pit Bull of today. It is proven fact, that if a breed does not practice what it was previously bred to do...as the generations progress, the breed loses these traits over time. Therefore, to contribute such traits to the APBT of today, would be a unfair and ignorant opinion of this beautiful animal. If you own a Labrador Retreiver, for example... and you shot a bird....it came down...would you expect your Lab to automatically run and retrieve that bird for you? If you do, you had better take some food and water with you, because you'll be in for one hell of a long wait. The Lab would have to be trained all over again...in order to know what is expected of him/her. The same goes for Pit Bulls. They would have to be trained to be aggresive. This is what people have been trying to educate the wary of all along.
Responsible and loving Pit Bull owners do not train their dogs to be aggresive and to fight other dogs...or attack humans. But, for some people, their uneducated opinion is cast in stone...and they refuse to see things as they really are. Sad, extremely sad. | |
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| Re: pit bull dog ban
Posted: 6/13/2006 2:51:16 PM | Ok geniuses, EMMENCE is spelled IMMENSE. Thank goodness the pitbull is banned around here is all I can say. You can call it what you want, but the breed needs to be destroyed.
From what I see, and last I checked the news was fact (maybe only in America it is all lies, who knows). So you can cry, whine, complain, but please put on your spell check...LMAO!!!!! So many uneducated people, they would rather be killed by their own pet than own up to the reality of the pitbull. So I even asked random people, to get their opinions, and they all said, no way would I ever own a pitbull. But not all of us are smart, sorry guys, you cannot convince me that I would like to have my head, arm, leg bitten off by a faulty breed. I read somewhere that they are prone to getting alzheimers, that is why they attack their owners and the like because they forget who they are. Has anyone ever read, seen anything on this? Has there been a study? We could be getting somewhere on why the breed is faulty.
That National Canine Assoc search was on CHAINED dogs, oops you missed a little detail here. If you chain something on of course it will go wild. Pits are just wild by nature, nothing can stop it from killing, absolutely nothing. Muzzles look good but it is also a form of restraint. Just kill them all and the world will be a safer place! :)
To me it makes zero sense to try to tame a killer beast. It is a defeated issue. No argument can justify the faultiness of this breed. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 3:25:04 PM |
Ok geniuses, EMMENCE is spelled IMMENSE.
No $hit. Its called a typo, mister professor. Sadly I missed it in my ire.
The facts remain. ANY dog can maim and kill. I'm waiting for the next lab owner to come crying to me cause his/her innocent "family acceptable breed" just caused fifty stitches in their child. Its not the breed. Its never really the breed. Its nature (yes age related changes to the brain can occur. Ask me about Abby the 13 year old golden that just had a massive personality change and attacked a staff member last week) and its nurture (was the puppy brought home and turned out in the back yard, chained or fenced in, and left to fend for himself?).
Evolution in domestic dogs is almost completely controlled by people. I've said it before. A century ago the English Bulldogge was a nasty breed used in pits and bull pens to control livestock... not a creature that anyone their right mind would have around their children. It was intentionally created to be that way. How else was it going to control a raging bull? Now its one of the most loved and sought after for its loveable personality. (For the dogs own health reasons I don't own one but this pitbull breed is a wonderful companion.)
Behavior issues are a personality thing and within every breed there are various personalities. Just as there are @holes in the human race there are @holes in the canine. purebred or mix, domestic and wild. I wish that someday I could get every person on the face of the earth to understand this and respect it. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 3:26:11 PM | | Hi everyone, I just wanted everyone to know that not all pit bulls are mean and aggressive and it is NOT in their nature,. I have been a vet tech for over 7 years now and have come in contact with many aggressive dogs and half of them DO NOT include pit bulls. I also work with vets that know pit bulls that are in the show ring (show dogs) and they are extremely nice dogs.These dogs get a bad name because the wrong people get ahold of them and take advantage of their strength...they are taught to me aggressive and to fight . Pit bulls need to be raised right from when they are a puppy just like other large breed dogs(Rotties,labs, ect..)I feel that the people that own and do horrible things to these animals should be punished for what they do, not the dogs!!! | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 4:00:03 PM | | Let's face it, who would trust their pitbull with a kid??? Anyways, you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink, only the smart ones! | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 4:07:23 PM | | Both my kids have pitbulls.So I WOULD!!!!!!!! Dont like the fact we LOVE our breed MOVE on spanky MOVE on | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 5:21:57 PM | Speaking of spanky and pit bulls with children the dog from Little Rascals was a pit bull was it not. Remember how it used to tear the children apart each episode, NOT. Might make a funny South Park though maybe the PB could kill Kenny by drowning him in drool while licking his face. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 5:36:14 PM | You mean the the little rascals that aired over 80 years ago??? Here is what I found...
Back then they did not create the contraversy they do today. Actually there were about a dozen or so dogs that were breed for all the Hal Roach films including Little Rascals. This breeder was employed with hal Roach studios from the mid 20's to 1932. Dogs from this breeder were used with The Little Rascals from their silents in 1927 to their early talking episodes. Petie appeared in virtually all the Rascal episodes until 1932. His hallow fur around his one eye gave him a particular distinction. All the dogs were breed to look exact.
In 1932 this breeder left Hal Roach studios and took the dogs with him. After the episode "The Pooch" Petie looked far more generic. The subsequent dogs were mixed breeds with a blend of white, black and brown. The hallow eye was far less definative. From Hook & Ladder to The Awful Tooth in 1938 Petie was far more generic looking. Still they these dogs to be Petie through about 1935 in most episodes. Then by 1936 they used Petie far more sparingly until the series ended in 1938 and the unit was sold to MGM. Still a Petie appeared in a few MGM episodes as well in the first year.
But there were over half a dozen different Peties in 1927-32 alone. After that there were a few more but the later ones looked far different.
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Interesting, but I am still not convinced they should not be banned, this was almost a century ago and obviously the breed has gotten or is getting worse and worse. 'Tis a pity though to get rid of a breed. Well if its bad then it has to go, just like criminals who are raised in a good home from the start. You are what you are. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 5:43:32 PM | Just a little something to indicate how media is bias against pit bulls.
Killer Pit Bulls Rip Granny to Shreds New York Post (NYPost.com) Dec. 11, 2002
Pet Pit Bulls Kill Woman, 80, in Her Home The New York Times (nytimes.com) Dec. 11, 2002
[The victim's daughter and granddaughter (owner of the dogs) could not believe the dogs, a female Pit Bull and a male Lab/Pit mix attacked and killed the elderly woman. The family hired a forensic pathologist to review the case. It was determined that although the victim had sustained some dog bites, all the bites were non-lethal and post-mortem. The grandmother was not "ripped to shreds" by the dogs but died from cardiac arrhythmia. Both dogs were eventually returned to their owners.]
Pit Bull Attack Victim Leaves Hospital WTVO (Channel 17) April 25, 2003
Man Struggles to Recover from Pit Bull Attack WTVO (Channel 17) April 29, 2003
[The man in this case was never bitten by a Pit bull. Indeed, there is no mention of the dog making contact with the man at all. Instead, the man was running from the dog and he ran into the road and "slammed" into a passing van. He sustained serious injuries from the collision with the vehicle.]
Pit Bull Horror New York Daily News February 7, 2004
Pit Bull Mauls 3-Year-Old's Face New York Newsday February 6, 2004
[A Bronx family owned a Boxer dog and a German Shepherd puppy that usually were kept in the basement as guard dogs. Two days before the girl was bitten, the family took in a Pit Bull. The 3-year-old was alone playing with the three dogs when a dogfight started. At this point the girl was bitten in the face by the Boxer (also reported to be an American bulldog). It was later acknowledged that the Pit bull (also reported to be a Pit bull mix and a "pet bulldog") was not involved in the attack on the girl]
Cortland Pit Bull Mauling Death WBNG.com (Channel 12) Dec. 9, 2002
[It was later determined that although the Pit bull participated in the death of 24-year-old Eric Tallman, the dog did not inflict the fatal wounds. The victim died from blunt force injury. It was later revealed that the victim was beaten to death by an acquaintance over a drug debt.]
Vancouver Girl Badly Injured in Pit Bull Attack CTV News Dec. 23, 2002
[This was a very severe attack and as such garnered much media attention. As a result of more in-depth coverage the breed was later correctly identified as a Mastiff/Rottweiler mixed breed]
Family's Pit Bull Kills Boy, 20, months The Gainesville Sun May 8, 2000
20-month-old Killed by Bull Terrier Naples Daily News May 9, 2000
[This child was not killed by a Pit Bull, nor a Bull Terrier, nor a "family" dog. How the dog came to be labelled a "Pit bull" is unexplained. The owner described the dog to be a Labrador/Mastiff/Rottweiler cattle dog. The dog was used to herd cattle and was kept chained on the property. Animal control and the Alachua Sheriff's office confirm the dog was a mixed breed. Photographs of the dog reveal no discernable breed.]
Another serious problem with the image of Pit Bulls is the over-reporting of Pit Bull attacks vs. other breed attacks. Unquestionably, a disporportionate amount of media attention is given to Pit Bull attacks. One example of this is a recent fatal attack in Detroit by a Pit Bull. This story ran in over 30 separate national newspapers and was also picked up by FOX news, CNN and two British newspapers. Two weeks earlier a man was killed by his German Shepherd Dog and this story ran only in the local community newspaper.
Sensationalism at it's worst!
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Posted: 6/13/2006 5:44:48 PM | I just ckecked on some statistics these are from fatal dog attacks . com
Between 1965 - 2001 there were 431 fatal dog attacks in the U.S.
of those
21% were from Pittbull breeds
16% mixed breeds
13% Rottwellers
9% German Shepards
From here the figures per breed fall down to 3% and below
Here's the stats on registered breeds in the U.S. as of 2004 ( American Kennel Club )
Golden and Lab Retreivers 199, 274
German Shepards 46,054
Bull dogs 19,396
Rottwellers 17,502
Bull Terriers 1,548
Staffordshire Bull Terriers 791
The bull breeds total (pittbulls) 21,735
based on these numbers ( I know they aren't complete ) A pittbull terrier breed is about 50% more likely to be involved in a fatal attack than a Rottweller, about 5 times more likely than a German Shepard and at least 70 times more than a Retreiver breed.
I talked to an RCMP officer (He was one of my customers) who handled dogs....all kinds including Pittbulls. He had nothing but praise for German Shepards and Boviers but just shook his head when it came to Pittbulls.
They have been bred with whats called "high blood" which means they are quick to anger, are very pain resistant, will not stop and they fight to the death.
He said when they were responding to a call if they were confronted with a pittbull (which did'nt happen very often) they would shoot it....right now, unless it was clearly under control of the owner. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 6:08:12 PM | My upstairs neighbor (when I lived in Florida) had a pitbull pup, now they were not allowed in the complex, but I guess he was a "rebel" or something. The rules are there. So he got kicked out because he broke the rule. The same guy then took bleach and poured it over the lawns at the apartment complex.
Chamelion obviously you didnt read the article closely...that 13 year old boy would have been mangled if the police were not there to stun it. Please read it all, not what you want to see. Debating with you people is challenging. You don't even want to see the facts. One day the facts will bite you in the....but don't say we didn't tell ya so! Don't eat that poison candy little boy. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 6:18:02 PM | "21% were from Pittbull breeds"
"Here's the stats on registered breeds in the U.S. as of 2004 ( American Kennel Club )"
"I talked to an RCMP officer (He was one of my customers) who handled dogs....all kinds including Pittbulls. He had nothing but praise for German Shepards and Boviers but just shook his head when it came to Pittbulls."
Pitbull Breeds include APBT, American Staff. Terrier, English Staff Terrier, Bull Terrier, American Bulldog, Olde American Bulldog, Bulldog, Olde English Bulldogge, and all crosses thereof. Of which only one is recognised by AKC and very few of them are registered with AKC.
Since when does being an MP make one an expert on dog breeds are not military police just as likely to be bias as any other ill informed individual. Many police departments have found that pits make excellent police dogs and can out perform their traditional German Shepards. Do some research for yourself and tell me I am ill informed. I repeat I do not own or breed Pits but do oppose their ill informed opposition. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 6:37:15 PM | I read the whole thing the boy was in the middle of the attack on his dog yet only received a scratch on his hand. An over zeolous cop who is probably bias and ill informed on the nature of pitbulls tazered the dog twice and was the hero. The boy and his dog were within their rights and the pitbull was just doing what many other dogs will do which is going after another dog. The one at fault here is the owner of the pit that had it on a light chain that it could break. (Which I have stated before as the reason I stopped breeding pits, to many irresponsible young gang banger wannabe's were attempting to buy my pups and were aquiring the breed.) Once again if that dog was after that boy and he was on him as the story said the boy would have received much more than a scratch. That pit was not interested in attacking the boy. Pits are very focused dogs and his focus was on the other dog. The boy a pit owner himself was brave enough to get in the middle of things and protect his dog. Which should speak volumes for the boy pit owner and his love for his dog. (Wait was that a boy walking a pitbull somebody better charge his parents with child neglect) The part about the boy would have been shredded is called sensationalism in journalism and is done to sell stories.
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Posted: 6/13/2006 6:53:37 PM | I just want to put my position on this down.
I don't think Pittbulls should be banned, but they and any other large, potentially aggressive or dangerous dog should have a special licence over and above the standard dog licence.
This owner training and licencing requirement should be decided by the dog breeders and associations, those that know the breeds best and administered from were you buy your dog licence.
I agree that bad owners are more responsible for attacks than the dogs. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 7:08:31 PM | I agree, maybe there should be some type of screening for potential owners, I know not all owners here are "bad" people, but there seems to be a strong link between owners and dog "temperament", for a lack of a better word.
I wish you all the best with your cherished pets and I just hope everyone remains safe, all jokes aside. I used to have a yellow lab and I miss him dearly. I grew up with dogs all my childhood life, Newfoundland dog(of course), labs, husky, and muts. Now with children it is my instinct to be very careful, or weary of certain breeds, certainly after hearing about them on the news and the like. It is just a mommy's way of protecting her "breed"....LOL | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 7:28:18 PM | | Now those last 2 posts I read here have made more sense than anything else so far. As far as regulation or license I would not object as long as government didn't try to make it another bungled example of govenment interferrence in our lives as they so often have done in the past. NEWF, I admire and respect your determination as a mom to protect your children. I have no children, my dogs are my children and I will protect them fiercly if need be. As stated before I don't have pits but if someone was trying to ban me from my boxers God help them. I feeling this way about my breed and having my knowledge and experience with pits will continue to side with responsible pit owners and against the bias media and the ill informed public. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 7:30:33 PM | Its not just the owners that need to be educated, but the breeders too. Too many backyard breeders and puppy mills that breed anything and will sell to anyone.
Sadly, I think that there will always be people who get a dog because of the image it portrays without really considering the life they are in responsible for. Its not just the wannabe toughs. Its also the families that get the "fashionable breeds" (labradoodles are not a breed people, its a crossbreed or a mutt) and leave it for the kids to feed and train just because its the thing that families are supposed to do. Sad. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2006 8:03:36 PM | | Now don't be picking on intentional crossbreeds as a matter of fact all breeds are crossbreeds. They are all man made for one purpose or another and through selective breeding they are pured out to produce the desired traits repeatedly. In the meanwhile the cross breed dogs before being pured need good homes too. | |
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| pit bull dog ban
Posted: 6/13/2006 8:43:58 PM | | we are haveing pit bull tagged in another state i think they should be cageed they are a dangerouse dog | |
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