| Re: pit bull dog ban
Posted: 9/15/2004 4:31:03 PM | Dogs fault or not. Dogs are STUPID they don't know right from wrong. They can seriously injure or kill children/adults and not care. yes they can get rabees but family dogs getting rabees is very rare in the USA and Canada. Even if it was rabees the dog still deserves to be shot.
Secondly id rather see a million dogs dead then one harmed child. People are more important then pets and if you don't want to waste the dogs you can cook them and sell them. | |
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| Re: pit bull dog ban
Posted: 9/15/2004 11:33:11 PM | | Like the person slamming on the brakes, to avoid hitting a dog, and someone following too close behind which resulted in 1 live dog, two injured people and 3 dead kids who were not strapped in the backseat of the car that was following. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 11:33:11 AM | the term "PITBULL" is slang for a cross of letz say an american Pitbull Terrier and a bull staff, witch can potentally produce dogs that can harm people.
so does this mean that if there is a 'PITBULL' ban that all bully breeds such as the "bull dog, bull terrier, american pitbull terrier, american staffordshire terrier, bull staffordshire terrier im (shure im forgetting some) will all be banned??????? i say thats bullshiet!!!!!!
I my self am a proud owner of a PB american staff, she is a child to me, i saved hur from a home were she was being miss treated and not feed properly, she is a truly amazing dog, she loves children and is very protective , its not evey day u run into a dog that will risk its own life to save yours, almost all of u must only hear that bad things and not the GOOD things about this amazing breed.
WELL i have a lil story for yah!
i was once in a very abusive relationship, my bf came home one night tanked out of his tree well he pretty much blanks out when he drinks , anyway we got into a huge fight and it escalading to point were his hands were around my neck.. everything was turing black..
when suddenly all i herd was him say OWCH!!!
i coughed gasping for air when i seen my dog standing over his leg.
she dident bite him hard, dident even break the skin, but it was enuff to get hur point across.
i honestly dont no what would have happend if she wasent there.
how i hope u ppl think really hard about banning my lil angel and other ppls to!! | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 11:41:11 AM | OH YEA AND MOST PITTBULL OUT THERE ARE HOUSE DOGS ESPECALLY MINE . THEY HAVE SHORT HAIR , IF THEY WERE TO BE LEFT OUT SIDE ALL WINTER THEY WOULD SHURLY GET SICK AND EVEN DIE | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 12:06:56 PM | Snoug,
Secondly id rather see a million dogs dead then one harmed child. People are more important then pets and if you don't want to waste the dogs you can cook them and sell them.
You may have this opinion and that is fine. Personally I don't like kids and will take a dog any day of the week over a child for even 1 hour!!! I find that the majority of dogs I encounter are well behaved and listen when told to sit and be quiet. Can't say the same for the kids I know!!! I spent 10 hours on a plane in March with about 25 VERY ILL BEHAVED teenagers, one of which decided that KICKING THE BOTTOM OF MY SEAT THE ENTIRE TRIP WAS ENTERTAINING!!! I would gladly have traded them for 25 dogs, cats, parrots, even fukkin rats!! ANYTING but kids! UGGH!
Other than my immediate family, there is NO ONE more important to me than my cats Peace, Jaws and Gizmo. My last cat Holly died in 2001 from cancer and her urn sits in my bedroom, where I can see her every day!!
You appear to be an animal hater and therefore I am not dumb enough to think that I could change your mind, but please understand that as much as you hate animals, there are those that love them just as much and your opinion will never change ours either.
"To you they may be animals, but to me they are short, hairy children who walk on all fours and can't speak very well." - Unknown | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 12:08:18 PM | Well. I had pit bull phobia as well, and to some extent still do. I was generally suspicious and afraid of the breed. But recently I developed a friendship with someone who owned not one, but THREE pits. I was not without trepidation going to visit for the first time. Turns out they're the sookiest, most loving three dogs I've ever met. While naturally a "dog aggressive" breed, pits are not naturally human aggressive. They are, however, a strong and purposeful dog, that can do a lot of damage if not properly handled or trained. So I think the bottom line on pits is they've attracted many owners who are aggressive and violent themselves and so have poorly trained and handled the dogs to reflect those characteristics.
A well trained and loved pit bull is loyal, bright, funny and loving. And I say this as someone who really isn't much of a dog person, much less a pit bull person. Before I met these three dogs I would have been the first to sign a petition banning the breed (as the mother of a young child). But having met them I'd never sign it. The breed is not the issue, it's the care, training and ownership. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 12:14:30 PM | OH ONE LAST THING ON THE ACCOUNT OF FAMILY RAISED "PITTBULL" TURNING ON A FAMILY MEMBER, THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT!
ITS CAUSE THE DOG IS SOOO INBRED THAT WHEN IT HITS THE AGE OF AROUND FIVE,
THE BRAINS SWELL UP WHICH PUTS PRESSURE ON THIER SKULLS AND BRAINS AND MAKES them GO NUTZ, SO IN THAT CASE ITS THE STUPID BREEDERS FAULT NOT THE BREED ITS SELF, IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANY BREED, ALL I CAN SAY IS KNOW UR DOGS BACKGROUND B4 PURCHASING | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 12:16:28 PM | | "To you they may be animals, but to me they are short, hairy children who walk on all fours and can't speak very well." - Unknown | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 12:21:17 PM | I don't think pit bulls should be banned per se. I think all large breed dogs should be banned from cities or kept on leashes. My next door neighbours have 3 rotwieler pups, 4, 6 and 10 months old. The younger 2 are fine, but the oldest tries to jump the fence to get at me every time I step outside. I can't enjoy my own back yard because its only a matter of time before he learns how to jump high enough and his owner refuses to chain him. He needs to be in the country, where he has room to run and play, not trapped in a 20' by 20' yard.
Oh, and to go with the guy who says he has been bitten by more small dogs than large, the dauchhound(sp) is the most lethal dog in the world. More people have been killed by them than all large breeds combined | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 12:32:08 PM | | ban'em.... or make the owners get a special permit with humongous fines and criminal liability if they harm humans. Maybe a requirement for a special type of insurance policy would be another way to deal with it, but they're not like other dogs... very dangerous. Same thing should be done with any other especially dangerous breeds, presa canarios... maybe even german shepherds... There's been enough people killed by wild animal "pets" to prove that we need more accountability or should expel the creatures from human environs... | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 12:36:26 PM |
the dauchhound(sp) is the most lethal dog in the world. More people have been killed by them than all large breeds combined
I'm trying to picture it. Are there statistics supporting this? | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 1:02:15 PM | Anticon,
Maybe a requirement for a special type of insurance policy would be another way to deal with it,
As someone who works in the insurance industry I can tell you that this would be very hard to do. And those most likely to pay for the insurance are not the ones that will have the misbehaving dogs. It is the ones that will not pay, there by breaking the law, that will be the ones with the dangerous dogs. This will wind up being just like the Canadian Gun Registry. A complete and total waste of time and money. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 1:17:50 PM | THINK OF THE PROS PPL .... ALL OF THESE NEGITIVE COMMENTS ARE PISHIN ME OFF,
(POSITIVE PIT STORIES I JUST FOUND)
As I unload my dog, one of the Sheriff's deputies says, "Hey, is that a Pit Bull?" "Yes Sir it is," I proudly say with a smile (this happens every time). "I didn't know they can be search dogs?" he said. I tell him that they are perfect for search work. They are strong and athletic which helps them get through the roughest terrain. They have very good drive which keeps them focused on what they are doing. They can work for hours, and they LOVE people .
When the deadly cottonmouth snake struck out at "her" children, Dixie never hesitated. The dog pushed the children aside, putting her 50-pound body between them and the snake. Dixie saved Frank Humphries, 9, and his 7-year-old twin siblings, Katie and Codi. But the venomous snake inflicted two bites on the face of the 16-month-old dog.
Move over Lassie. A pit bull terrier has shown Auburn's Jim Roach that heroic dog deeds don't just happen in the movies or on TV.
Roach fell from a 12-foot-high ladder while picking peaches last month on his rural Mount Vernon Road property. Dazed and unable to move because of his injuries, he soon found renter Jeanne Davis' two-year-old pit bull Gabby hovering over him and
barking.
"I was unconscious pretty much," Roach said Tuesday. "I remember a dog licking the side of my face and standing by me and barking and barking and barking."
But nobody came. That's when Gabby did the heroically unexpected and went for help.
About 100 yards away and not able to see or hear Roach, Davis heard Gabby furiously barking and thought perhaps someone had entered the property. But Roach's dog, also nearby, wasn't barking.
Soon after she first noticed the barking, Gabby emerged.
"She's barking and then she looks at me and runs back," Davis said. "It's kind of like something Lassie would do."So Davis followed Gabby. She found her landlord injured and moaning in pain near the pruning ladder.
"I walked over to where he was and Gabby stopped barking," Davis said.
With Roach immobilized on the ground, a California Highway Patrol helicopter was dispatched to transport the seriously injured college instructor to Roseville Medical Center's trauma unit for emergency treatment.
Roach, a College of San Mateo instructor, said doctors diagnosed multiple injuries from the fall, including a fractured clavicle, four broken ribs, two cracked vertebrae, and bleeding on the brain.A towel wrapped around his head, Jason Williams-style, probably saved his life when his head hit the ground, Roach said.
Roach said he spent a week in hospital. One of the first visitors after discharge was Gabby. He said the two now seem to have formed a strong bond as a result of the rescue.
A psychology instructor, Roach said that the incident is a good example of the more endearing side of pit bulls that doesn't receive media attention.
"I've never felt they've been given a fair shake," he said. "They're just a terrier."
Davis said Gabby was abused before she adopted her. She's been training the dog to become less apprehensive around people.
"A lot of people said to put her down, that she's going to do something bad," Davis said. "I'm so proud of my dog." | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 1:22:26 PM | Oh i have a lot to say on this topic. First of all, I am an animal lover and am not on peoples sides or pit bulls sides.
A lady down the street from me, an old lady who raised her pit bull from a puppy and provided a loving and nurturing home for her dog, turned mean one day. It would be in the fenced yard and if you walked by especially with another dog, the pit bull would go bezerk. One day it finally got out of the yard and went into a neighbors yard and started attacking his dog, he had to shoot the pit bull to get it to stop. My point here is that not all bulls are abused so people are not to blame in every incident. I do believe though that some animals are more aggressive than others. We have to remember that dogs, cats etc still have natural instincts and were all wild way back when. I do believe that a bulls temperment is really aggressive and I think it will always be a problem with them no matter how much we humans try to raise them in a loving environment. They should be banned but I am sure if that happens people will go underground with them and find ways to own and breed them anyway. Muzzling them is another idea but how many people even obey the leash laws? not many, I am afraid. Something does have to be done though because too many people are getting hurt and killed by them but what would really work? I know when I see a bull running loose I am careful because they frighten me. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 1:26:09 PM | | well I can see your an animal hater. I wish we could do that to stupid people, murders and the like. Because you see, people should know better. an animal has its instincts. and besides its the stupid people in this world who keep breeding animals instead of taking responsibility to get them fixed. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 1:31:52 PM | | Ive only known one person who owned a pitbull it wasn't abused was treated like a king and bit the neighbour lady when she bent down to pat the dog ???? | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 1:34:43 PM | A Pitbull named Blueberry is credited with saving her owner from two armed attackers. Authorities in Indiana, say the dog pounced on the intruders as they opened fire, Blueberrys legs and jaw were broken but she kept up the attack. The intruders fled and at last word, were still on the loose.
NOW I THINK THAT IS THE ONLY BREED OF DOG CAPIBLE OF DOIN THAT AND SURVIVING
Truly and amazing creature that should not be giving up on.
WHO AGREES WITH ME ON THAT ONE???????????????????????? | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 1:40:38 PM | It's the dogs' sense of loyalty that has, ironically, helped to undermine the breed. When abused and trained by criminals as attack dogs, pit bulls can, in fact, become dangerous - just like any other large, dominant dog. Their size and strength can make them a threat.
But the vast majority of them are ****cats.
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Posted: 4/5/2006 1:47:34 PM | HAHA look what i found
Since 1975, more than 30 breeds have been responsible for fatal attacks including Dachshunds, a Yorkshire terrier and a Labrador retriever. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 2:04:53 PM | Dachsunds? They didn't breed them to be badger killers for nothing.
You can see I love a pit. He is a product of his environment. Dog attacks are not going to subside if you concentrate on breeds and not the socio-economic factors of their owners. I think an owner, not a dog, needs to be licensed in this day and age. That license should demand ultimate and complete liability of that owner. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 2:06:37 PM | | Also, more than 80 percent of the biters are male dogs that have not been neutered. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 2:54:26 PM |
i hope u get shot
This from someone who doesn't want an animal banned... | |
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Posted: 4/5/2006 3:28:19 PM | Wow this was dormant for 19 months.
fox, i was wondering why you created an empty profile the day you posted on this thread? Just strange that an empty profile revives a thread thats been dead for so long....
As for pit bulls they should be banned. I am not saying that it would mean a rounding up of the animals and kiling them. Just a phased in ban. Where All pit bulls must be fixed so they cannot breed. Secondly they would ban new pits from entering the city and ban the sale of them. every pit bull would be required to be registered and have both an identifying ear tattoo and a dog tag with the owners name and address.
This would allow those that currently own them to keep them for their natural life span. While also ensuring that no new pits are born or imported and ensuring that within say 15 years there would be no legally owned pit bulls in the city.
I realize that it is the owner and not just the dog that is at fault. Which is why dog owners should have a licence and have to take a training course.
However, the dogs are a dangerous breed. they are breed to be aggressive and can easily inflict damage. I had a neighbor that had a bit rotty and this poor dog had been ripped apart by a pit bull. When I first sawthe dog it looked like it had been sewen together out of tiny bits. All its legs and but and shoulder and face had stitches. I was amazed the vet hadnt just put the poor thing down.
The first time i approached it was a few weeks later and it had healed up fairly well, had its fur back althoough still seemed to limp a bit. The owner was there and welcomed me and said the dog was ok so i entered thru the gate and the dog walked up to me. i put out my hand so it could have a sniff and it took a tiny sniff then wrapped its tongue around my hand and swallowed my hand. It was almost in an instant and all i thought was "good bye hand". yet a few seconds later my dripping hand was released unharmed and the dog wandered off. So this rotty wasnt the evil type and i do understand that it isnt always the breed but the owner. Yet, even this dog owner wanted the pitbulls banned as the one that ripped her dog apart had been a complete ****cat until one day it just decided to go nuts. The reason is because it is an animal that is breed to be like that.
Its like taking a grizzly bear and training it to be a pet. yes, it might not attack like it would if bothered in the wild but it is still a wild animal and can easily kill or maim.
There is no need for these dogs. People want a dog then get one that is meant to be a pet.
As for dogs being more behaved than kids? sadly its often true. unfortunaely we dont give lessons or licence people to be parents. Maybe if you needed to have a permit to reproduce we could cut down on the clueless and irresponsible from reproducing. sadly the irresponsible tend to produce irresponsible kids that grow to be irresponsible parents and the cycle of stupidity continues.
Back to the dogs...I also think that any owner that has a dog that they fail to control and bites a person should lose their right to have a dog. There are a lot of great dogs and dog owners out there that are responsible and they shouldnt have to worry because of those that cant be bothered to be a good dog owner.  | |
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