| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/19/2009 5:34:44 PM | if you dont think silva's striking is superior to anyone in the light heavyweight division (exception is maybe machida) then your just a hater, plain and simple. silva is the most graceful striker to ever compete in MMA add that with his KO power, his speed, and his technically diverse strikes makes him the best.
rashad was losing against chuck before the KO, losing to forrest before the KO, silva would dance circles around him and pick him apart with relative ease. his foot work and his HUGE reach advantage against rashad (who is a small light heavy) would be too much.
no one said anything about fedor. get real son and stop hating. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/19/2009 6:18:10 PM | | Mike, I'm going to have to agree with Dwayne here. Silva would face stiff competition in the LHW division. Evans is not to be taken lightly, and there are quality up-and-comers like "Bones" Jones and Luiz Cane. No guarantees for Silva there. | |
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dman82
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Joined: 3/30/2009
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/19/2009 8:59:30 PM | The fight with Leites was embarrasing.Anderson took zero risks,at all.Leites was offering him nothing on the feet and after the second round,nothing on the ground,and still Silva never went for the kill.Silva could have grounded and pounded Leites with ease in the fourth and fifth round when he just laid there in the fetal position.Instead Anderson stood there and punched him in the leg,then walked away.This is NOT the same Anderson Silva that went right after Rich Franklin in both fights,or got in a straight up brawl at one point with Dan Henderson.Franklin and Henderson both are considerably more dangerous than Leites,yet Silva basicaly refused to engage Leites beyond destroying his lead leg.
As for Anderson at 205-the guys that are going to give Anderson a problem,at any weight class,are the ones who can put him on his back and keep him there.He's going to run into a lot more of them at 205 than at 185.Rashad Evans would just take him down and ground and pound the living hell out of him.Someone like Rampage Jackson might oblige Anderson and stand and bang with him for awhile,but as soon as he got in hot water,Rampage would take Silva down,put him against the fence and start feeding him elbows.
In reality,the guy that's going to give Anderson the biggest test right now is Demian Maia.He has the takedown skills to get Silva down to the matt with relative ease.Once there,it won't be anything like the fights with Lutter or Leites-it will be a matter of seconds before Silva is in deep,deep trouble.
WB. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/19/2009 9:34:15 PM | To add fuel to the fire: I don't think Dana White and Anderson Silva see eye-to-eye on these last couple of fights. Dana is pissed off and embarrassed, which is understandable for a promoter responsible for last night's fiasco. Anderson, on the other hand, thinks that he prepared and fought adequately against opponents who didn't want to engage.
It's not likely those two are going to concur on what really happened in the Cote fight and the Leites fight. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/20/2009 5:23:14 AM | I still have a problem though with blaming Anderson too much. Sure, the fight was boring as hell, probly the most boring 5 rounds I've seen.
Still though, if its a sport it doesn't matter how you win as long as you play by the rules.
In the NFL it doesn't matter if a team wins 3-0 or 45-42 with a field goal with no time left on the clock. Sure the latter would be more dramatic but the the point of the game is not to create drama, its to win.
There are holes in MMA rules currently. I mean if your 15 and want to become a fighter, I would think the best style to develope would be to learn to strike like Machida and get a good takedown/ground control. Then against better strikers, take them down and lay and pray. Against better BJJ guys, keep it standing and never get hit even if your not inflicting much damage. You could easily win 2 of 3 rounds then and beat guys with much more skill. Sure the point of the fight is sopposed to be to end the fight but the current rules are pretty exploitable to a strategy like that to get a decission.
This is only going to get worse if Machida wins the title and holds it for awhile because its just smart fighting under the current rules. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/20/2009 9:04:59 AM | ^^I've got to agree with that. I don't like paying for boring fights; but any professional fighter would be stupid to overreach and expose himself against a timid opponent. The fighters who take dumb risks just to keep fights "exciting" pay a huge price down the road.
I think bringing in the yellow-card rule from Pride might be the answer. If a fighter pulls guard excessively like Leites did, and gets carded for it and loses a point, it would help the pace of fights. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/20/2009 1:11:22 PM | I watched the PPV on Saturday night and noticed one thing.
When Anderson Silva was entering the ring he was rubbing his face with his palms and then proceeded to rub his chest and arms. Then during the fighter introductions he was rubbing his face again and then rubbing chest.
I think he was worried about TL's Jujitsu and that is why we saw a ho hum fight.
I do not think the greasing played a part but just thought it was odd that after the GSP / BJ fight that they where not paying closer attention to it. | |
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SBJJR
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Joined: 3/24/2008
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/20/2009 4:04:31 PM | Probably not simply because as of late he has been requiring to have the fight come to him to finish. Where as others, like BJ, George, Miguel (Torres), Fedor as well as others will take the fight to their opponents.
Personally I was so disappointed at his performance. Seems like he is almost going the way of Sylvia and avoiding fighting to keep his belt. Not that Sylvia has the same or even close skill set, but the mentality seems to be the same.
Just a matter of time before the Okamis, Akiyamas, Kangs, Mousasis and Manhoefs show that no one is afraid of him and that they are conent engaging.
Anyone who had seen the Cage Rage fight between Okami and Anderson knows Yushin isn't afraid....should make for a great rematch. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/20/2009 4:35:02 PM |
This is only going to get worse if Machida wins the title and holds it for awhile because its just smart fighting under the current rules.
Agreed 100%. Machida's style, while undeniably effective, is boring as all hell. It will kill interest in MMA. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/20/2009 5:34:51 PM | Don't know how to quote but hey dont need it. Here's some good fighters Franklin has beat other than Okami.
Evan Tanner: One of the most underrated fighters in all MMA. Rest in peace
David Loiseau: He may be trash now but when he beat Loiseau he was said to be among the best in the middleweight divison
Ken Shamrock: A legend that is starting to tarnish his legacy. They fought just before Shamrocks fall from grace.
There's more fighters but they aren't as good as those 3.
Now back to Fedor, I guarantee he would have lost his last fight against Arlovski if he never tried to be Mr Fancy Pants. He was picking him apart at the time before the flying knee. Also if people remember the Lindland fight he had to hold the ropes TWICE to prevent a takedown. Then he ended on top and tapped out Lindland. As I said before I'm not saying he's trash I just don't think he's as good as people say he is.
Ps I'm not new to the sport like someone said I've been watching and really following the sport for the past 5 years. I even remember before that watching a video of Tank Abbott knocking out a huge native guy but thanks for trying to insult me I guess I'll put on my invisible tapout shirt. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/20/2009 7:20:26 PM | The only matchup right now for A.Silva that would make sense would be a rematch with Nate.
It would be a standup war, and thats what Anderson needs. As much as I like Damian, I dont think he is quite ready plus the fact that the fight would be boring as hell.
Anderson needs a standup test, and I think Nate could do it.
I may be wrong but I think that Silva only has 3 or 4 fights left on his ufc contract. He has already said he wants to retire.
I think his final 4 should be..
-Nate titlefight in Aug/Sep
-Gsp or Wandy in Dec at 185
-A 205 superfight in early 2010
-And finally, to finish his career.. One last 185 titlefight mid 2010.
Then retire...On top.. Unlike Chucky. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/20/2009 8:31:03 PM | Evan Tanner: One of the most underrated fighters in all MMA. Rest in peace
David Loiseau: He may be trash now but when he beat Loiseau he was said to be among the best in the middleweight divison
Ken Shamrock: A legend that is starting to tarnish his legacy. They fought just before Shamrocks fall from grace.
There's more fighters but they aren't as good as those 3.
Tanner was a tough guy, and good for his time, but he was never all that great.
The Crow was never all that good.
Shamrock was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past his prime by that point of his career.
Now back to Fedor, I guarantee he would have lost his last fight against Arlovski if he never tried to be Mr Fancy Pants. He was picking him apart at the time before the flying knee. Also if people remember the Lindland fight he had to hold the ropes TWICE to prevent a takedown. Then he ended on top and tapped out Lindland. As I said before I'm not saying he's trash I just don't think he's as good as people say he is.
Arlovski wasn't doing anything to hurt Fedor in that fight.
Fedor was in far more trouble early against CroCop than he was against Arlovski.
CroCop was not only winning the fight early, but he was actually doing damage.
Arlovski wasn't doing anything but outpointing Fedor.
He never had him in any trouble at any point.
He outpointed him for 3 minutes, then got ko'ed. Simple as that.
And the Lindland fight garbage is a joke. Lindland grabbed the dayum ropes himself to get position.
Grasping at straws much? | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/21/2009 8:01:56 AM | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BKpxfKowqQ
Fastforward towards the end he stunned Fedor before the idiot threw that stupid flying knee.
That Lindland fight was a joke I agree with you. Lindland held the ropes for like two seconds. It wasn't blatant like Fedor. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/21/2009 9:22:01 AM | Where did he stun him?
Are you talking about the push kick or somethin? 
Fedor slipped several punches.
Fedor was never hurt in that fight.
No damage was done.
Out pointing someone for 3 minutes doesn't mean much. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/22/2009 5:31:25 AM | I don't have problem with people not liking Fedor....but I do think it's rediculous when TUF noobs act like the guy is a random can.
Fedor slipped multiple punches in that fight. Hell, he was never hurt. The first punch looked like it stunned him at first. But when you watch it again, you can see he was slipping the punch.
The last right hand he threw before the knee looked like it hurt. But Fedor didn't looked wobbled. As you can see from the punch and how he walked away like nothing happened.
If someone wants to see Fedor hurt, they can go watch the Fujita fight.
He was hurt from the moment the punch landed till he left the ring.
Hell.....he was probably still a little wobbly for a good 20 minutes afterwards.
And to get back on topic, I hope Maia gets him next and subs him. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/22/2009 6:43:29 AM | Maia might have to wait a little. Dana is probably going to give Anderson a striker in the LHW division next to guarantee an action-packed fight. After that, if Bisping beats Hendo, Bisping will probably be given the next MW title shot.
I don't think Maia would refuse to engage and pull guard repeatedly like Leites did; but, as a BJJ player, Maia is going to have to wait longer for his shot because of Leites' bad showing. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/22/2009 7:01:48 PM | "if Bisping beats Hendo" Honestly, I would consider that the biggest upset of all time. I cant wait for ufc 100. 2 hype trains will finally end. Lesnar and Bisping. Leave mma for real fighters.
Bisping is gettin his azz KTFO.
Silvas next four should be...
Nate
Hendo
Gsp
top 5 205 er' | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/30/2009 3:43:16 AM | you guys are crazy. if anything, anderson should just give up his belt and move up to 205 because rematches with nate and henderson isnt going to prove anything. rematches with guys silva has already wrecked is not what i want to see as a fan. infact, im tired of seeing rematches in the UFC when there are so many interesting fights that could be made.id rather see henderson and nate fight each other instead of either one of them fighting silva again. whats up with all these rematches in the UFC?
UFC did the right thing signing forrest vs. silva
and LOL at the guy who said okami isnt scared of silva. you dont have to be scared to get your ass kicked. okami was getting beatdown before the DQ happened. he was getting lit up standing, all his takedowns were stopped except for one, and even when he got the takedown he did nothing with it. silva was in control the entire fight.
and melvin manhoef has got to be one of the most overrated fighters ever. he is the definition of a glass cannon. he can dish it out but he cant take it. he has no ground game and his chin is glass. anderson knocks him out with a straight right in the middle of his wild looping punches, or he taps him out in a minute. melvin just got knocked out by a complete no body like a week or two ago.
kang cant put together 2 consecutive wins in a row against mediocre competition and you guys think he has anything for silva? hes too small, under skilled, and hes not consistant enough. if by some miracle he does score a fight with silva and wins, he would turn around and lose the belt to a complete bum in his next fight. he is a master of stealing defeat from the jaws of victory.
you guys are reaching. im sure in about 5 years when silva finally loses, you guys will be the first to shout "I TOLD YOU SO" because your all pulling fighters out of your asses in hopes that they will beat silva. even fighters silva already destroyed in impressive fashion. that is reaching.... | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 4/30/2009 6:57:56 PM | This Forrest fight is the best thing for Anderson right now. The Leites fight was a disaster, and putting Forrest in there next will ensure lots of action for the next fight. Forrest deserves a bonus just for taking the fight. Big risk for him; but he's used to big risks.
If Anderson beats Forrest, he deserves a shot at the 205 lb. title. If Forrest wins, he should get the next LHW shot after Rampage. Silva/Griffin will be a great battle. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 5/3/2009 5:45:56 PM | When Machida wins the LHW title will be his for a long time. Anderson will never challenge him for it as they are friends and training partners in Brazil. Anderson has even said this.
205 will belong to Machida
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185 will be Andersons for as long as he wants it. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 5/3/2009 6:13:40 PM | Fedor.
Anderson wouldn't go down into Thales guard, where as Fedor literally dove right into Nog's guard.
Record. Well Roundness. Domination. All points to Fedor. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 5/4/2009 7:42:11 AM | | bruce lee would do a number on silva or fedor. mike tyson would do the same as welll. you tube him and you'll see how fast he was and ducked and covered, he was the real deal. | |
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| Is Anderson Silva the World's Best MMA Fighter?
Posted: 5/4/2009 8:56:49 AM | C'mon.....Bruce Lee?? The guy was 135 pounds sopping wet. Look, people take the Bruce Lee legacy a bit too far. Lee was a great actor and thinker who wrote down some innovative ideas about martial arts. He was good at exhibitions (the one-inch punch, etc.)
But, Anderson would have destroyed Bruce Lee. Fedor would have fed Lee to the fowls of the air and the beasts of the field. Don't get it twisted. This isn't 1972. Size matters, and even in terms of technique, fighters like Fedor and Anderson are light-years ahead of where Bruce was during his lifetime.
Lee was a charismatic actor who made entertaining films. One should never think that he could hang with today's professional fighters. | |
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