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 fly_higher

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Posted: 3/11/2008 4:17:35 PM
sanderick



Price for gas when converted to Gallons and U.S. dollars.
8 BUCKS A GALLON.


If....................$ 1.50 per = £ 1 2007
Is now about $ 2.00 per = £ 1 2008
And we now get more for our £ now by 33%
As Oil is priced in dollars.
Why hasn't the price Of UK petrol gone down instead of up !!
Cause we are all being ripped off and lied too!
 IronmanUK

Joined: 3/8/2008
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Posted: 3/11/2008 4:18:19 PM
WTF!!

Reading this thread just emphasizes the protective bubble Americans live in.
It's currently £4.70 p/g here in the UK thats about $10 at current exchange rates.

You eat too much, consume more than you need and all to make yourselves happy yet failing miserably in general.

What's so sad about it is that the US is almost broke but it seems like you don't want to wake up to the fact..... This isn't my observation....it's your very own Chief Accountant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-16u9x3tfE&feature=related.

It's OK though because the rest of us in developed nations are closely following you because we aren't/can't compete with developing nations.

Oh yeah, and if memory serves me right, wasn't oil around $27 a barrel before we invaded Iraq on a false premise and gave oil markets the jitters? That's a whole other topic though but do get ready for tougher times ahead for the foreseeable future.
 silverback1966

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Posted: 3/11/2008 4:41:16 PM
i just fillied up my work truck at $3.89 a gallon which came out to $111.00 at 25 gallions!!glad i wasnt paying for that!! but in the long run everything is going to keep going up food ,materials and so on because of transportation costs.plus god help us if we have a hot summer!! better build a tolerance to the heat because your electric bills are going to be 350 plus.all because the oil companies are supresing technology in the name of the dollar!! not to mention that 12trillion a month to go kill some arabs to 'take our minds off our problems at home.dont you think that money could solve some problems here??
 firegurl61-17

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Posted: 3/11/2008 4:48:43 PM
I think its going to have a trickle down effect on whether or not people go on vacations this summer...vacation spots will lose money...I think its a scam and it doesn't need to be that high especially for people of low incomes that need to work to pay bills and fixed income people that won't be as active as they used to be. We spend all this money to prolong a persons life and then they can't afford to live and enjoy it. I think everyone should ride bikes and put a few gas stations out of business. We would all be healthier...and have some walking money!
 fyritup

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Posted: 3/11/2008 4:53:37 PM
i think that if all the politicians had to pay this price for gas , that gas would be down to a dollar a gallon , or they would give themselves another raise that they don't deserve.there is an engine in france that runs on air with no bad side effects. once it's on the market . f#ck the oil companies. i don't care if it only goes 5 mph. if i can put exxon, shell and all the other oil companies out of businees. great. then what would the arab countries have. they can eat their oil and sand for all i care.
 fly_higher

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Posted: 3/11/2008 4:54:24 PM
silverback1966

better build a tolerance to the heat because your electric bills are going to be 350 plus.


My heating bill last quarter was £300.00 ... $600... Thats a per 3 months , not per year,,, welcome to the world
Message from England.
 fyritup

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Posted: 3/11/2008 4:56:34 PM
yeah but we helped save your ass in the war and can still kick it today. what are you mad because you have no dental plan in the uk.
 freetogoodhome

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Posted: 3/11/2008 5:00:16 PM
whats the reason for the gas price hike can't the goverment get enough money out of of our pockets with rising taxes ripping us of our UI benifits robbing our health care i say it's time for the people we put in parliment to get off thier asses and start earning the big pay checks they get and find out seems all talk when election time comes around then they lay back in thier easy chairs and collect thats all well i don't think it's fair to us working class maybe the world should quit thier jobs and collect welfare it seems like the most convient way to get ahead they allow many able bodies to sit and get fat for years and buy houses ,cars you name it without any questions welfare allow our children to drop out of school sit home have children all at our exspense . as a working person i am apaulled at the way our goverment is acting and treating us what did our grandfathers and family give thiers lives for . i am sure it wasn't to have the goverment treat us like slaves for thier own amusment . i myself don't care who's to blame for all thats going on in our world all i can say is that they should get it fixed before all hell breaks loose and things go even farther with no chance of repair
 Topgear1

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Posted: 3/11/2008 5:01:59 PM

i just fillied up my work truck at $3.89 a gallon which came out to $111.00 at 25 gallions!!glad i wasnt paying for that!!


Sorry, I don't mean to laugh at your expense but as you said a little further down:


but in the long run everything is going to keep going up food ,materials and so on because of transportation costs.


I just found it amuzing that you thought you wasn't paying for it? When everything you buy will cost you more?


plus god help us if we have a hot summer!! better build a tolerance to the heat because your electric bills are going to be 350 plus.all because the oil companies are supresing technology in the name of the dollar!! not to mention that 12trillion a month to go kill some arabs to 'take our minds off our problems at home.dont you think that money could solve some problems here??


Your absolutely correct my friend, things are going to sky rocket in price. With a barrel of oil settling at $108.75 today, I'd say it's almost a clear possibility that it will not drop below $109 a barrel tomorrow and topping $110 by the end of the week if not sooner?

A global depression could be on the horizon that will make the 1930's in America look like a cake walk? And if it gets that bad here it will get far worse in other nations. Once the American's can't afford things there will be few else purchasing goods in a very short time to follow.

We really need to move beyond our oil dependency and transfer to new home grown technologys...
 fly_higher

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Posted: 3/11/2008 5:05:18 PM
fyritup


yeah but we helped save your ass in the war and can still kick it today. what are you mad because you have no dental plan in the uk.

The Next war,, Maybe England & Europe will have to bail you out and save your ass..
And that's why we have to pay
40% income tax
17% VAT
8% National insurance tax
2% 2rd Nation Insurance
15-20% Property tax @ £1500
And 87% tax on what we pay on Petrol
Cause US is bankrupt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-16u9x3tfE&feature=related.

Just as side line remember your history where you came from. England.
Topgear message 112


To all our English friends

Now there's a true friend. Thank you,, Sir !
I was in Washington in Oct 2007





 roberts2008

Joined: 1/30/2008
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Posted: 3/11/2008 5:11:36 PM
I am not sure what to think. I understand that we have a great deal of oil in our own country, but the officials choose not to use it. That is something that I do not understand as it would greatly help our people it have gas say at a dollar per gallon. I would think that using the gas that we have would provide jobs for people that do not have jobs at the moment. I also heard that we had at least 100 years of oil in our country. Why not use it now, as I am very sure that our automobiles will not run on gas in 100 years. So what is the government saving the oil for???? I think that is a question that we should bring to the fore front. I did speak with a friend in London over the weekend and he said gas was $11.00 per gallon there.

I do not know how people who are on minium wage can live?????
 Topgear1

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Posted: 3/11/2008 5:13:32 PM
To all our English friends

Please excuse our less than friendly American kin. I assure you the mass majority of American's have nothing but the deepest respect for our friends across the pond.

The rising price of Gas/Petro is no less your fault then it is our own. We must work together to break this dependency on oil that all us industrilized nations have become addictated too, or we will always be slaves to the Corporations (Robber Barons)...

 roberts2008

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Posted: 3/11/2008 5:18:55 PM
I live in WEST VIRGINIA, we have a nice home 2400 square feet and I paid $1680.00 from Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, and March. We did not set the heat above 65 degrees and that is what I paid Dominion Hope Gas to heat our home. I could not believe it.
 Atlas1974

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Posted: 3/11/2008 5:32:27 PM
What pisses me off is when I see places that don't suck it out of their back yards pay less than many in places like Alberta
 Topgear1

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Posted: 3/11/2008 5:35:30 PM

roberts2008


I'm going to try and explain this in real simple terms, so many of the finer details will be omitted. But in a nut shell there are a few reasons why America doesn't pump it's on oil out of the ground. The first being it's been a national security policy of the government to always have a one year supply of oil on hand to keep the Nation functioning in case of large scale war. The second main reason is that it was always the belief of the government to use up everyone else's oil until they were bone dry. This would keep the oil reserves under America soil safe for American consumption when everyone else had no oil, America could conduct buisness as usual...

Now don't get our Oil Reserves and the Natural Oil Reserves confused they are eniterly two different things. The former is oil purchased elsewhere and stored in above or below ground resorivors. The Later is oil that is in the ground that has never been pumped to the surface but is left in tact until no oil elsewhere exsist to purchase.

Yea, it's a greedy tactic put in place back in the 50's and 70's. Most American's are not aware of that sort of stuff the spend their time worrying about who is on "Dancing with the Stars". Which of course explains why the country has fallen apart because people just don't concern themselves with such things as they once did...

Dropping the price of oil to a dollar a gallon won't fix a thing and no there isn't 100 years of oil left. the Days of Cheap oil is over! it's better for us to develop a better source of energy than wait for the big crunch that's coming... Just like a crack addict trying to save her life by getting off the drug. The industrial world is going to have to suffer a little pain now or a huge heart stopping withdrawl crash in the very near future.
 Topgear1

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Posted: 3/11/2008 5:45:41 PM

What pisses me off is when I see places that don't suck it out of their back yards pay less than many in places like Alberta


I hear you and I do understand and appreicate your pain when you get ticked off about it. But I assure you the average citizen of any nation has noting to do with that. We just can't cricitize a persons nationality because they might get fuel cheaper than the next Nation. What good can come from that? Are you to despise your neighbor across town because their gas is a few cents cheaper? Everyone has their own stories, gas can be cheap or more expensive 10 miles away, from State to State and Nation to Nation. Most of the differences we see at the pump is in the taxes placed on the fuel and not the base fuel itself.

We all need to focus our anger in a productive direction and not at each other. Wouldn't you agree we can acomplish more together united in this struggle than bickering and pointing fingers amoung ourselves? The real people responsibe are the Robber Barons (Oil Company's and yes that means their stockholders, which might very well be people like you and I)
 grog27

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Posted: 3/11/2008 5:52:47 PM
"yeah but we helped save your ass in the war and can still kick it today. what are you mad because you have no dental plan in the uk."

???!?!?!?What the hell does that have to do with....anything?!?!?!?
A truly moronic post.

On topic:
Let it go to $10 a gallon! That's about the only way the sheeple will wake up and start to realize that maybe conservation isn't such a bad thing after all.
Sure, it will hurt economic growth, but sooner or later, economists will have to realize that, in economics as in nature, there is no such thing as perpetual growth!!! Sooner or later, things have to level out and pull back. Happens every autumn in nature; sooner or later, it's got to happen in economics as well.
 printer2

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Posted: 3/11/2008 6:12:06 PM
You know why gas is the price it is? Because you and a billion other people in the world will pay that for it.

The big crime is that we burn the stuff rather than make things out of it. And who said it is a plastic world we live in?
 Topgear1

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Posted: 3/11/2008 6:26:35 PM

Let it go to $10 a gallon!


Well, let's hope it doesn't because if it gets to that point we will have passed a great transitional point. The world will be plunged back to the 19 century and there goes what remaing forest there are. If you think cars polluted the air of cities might I encourage everyone to read about London in the early days of the industrial revolution. The sky was so black it was difficut to detrmine if it was day or night. So I don't look forward to endless amounts of Coal and wood being used to heat homes and operate machines. Knowing people as I do if given the choice of starving and frezzing to death they will always pick a smoke filled sky over the former.

The time of real conversation has passed, so the best we can do is conserve what we can until we make that jump to a new alternative energy source. However we must act now and get those vehicle in the hands of the populace quickly, waiting 10 years or more will be too late.
 serendipiteee

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Posted: 3/11/2008 7:16:21 PM
I think it's not just a possibility but a probability. I'm glad I have a gas sipper and feel for those who don't... assuming they didn't vote for the current administation.
 rusticandrusty

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Posted: 3/11/2008 8:11:43 PM
i think there are enough scientists in this country and that one or two, maybe a hundred could find the chemical make-up of gasolene. then make a synthetic brand.
we have synthetic oil, grease and componants in every car/truck on the roads now.
why not gasolene ?

we have "generic" medicines to ease the costs from the real meds the dr.s want you to have. just to save you and your insurance provider some money.

why not gasolene ?

we have synthetic clothes. shoes and wigs.

why not gasolene ?

we even have synthetic food and drinks available... so why not gasoline ????
 rollergrrl

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Posted: 3/11/2008 8:24:23 PM
i paid $2.99 this weekend and hated it.

so...lately i've been doing research on ethanol. there are a couple of problems. first, burning corn is stupid. don't use your food as fuel. food costs goup and you won't save any money on the fuel that way. use what's in abundance that's close to you. here in st. louis it's grass clippings and wood chips, probably the same for a lot of places.

i've read you can run any car on 50% ethanol. still makes me nervous. you can buy a converter for about $300-$400. your gas mileage will go down unless you change the way your spark plugs work (i believe, i'd really have to look at that again) which can be done but you can't go back to gasoline.

and let's be real. this whole energy bill was done for the iowa caucus. using corn makes the farmers happy, but not the rest of us. dems have put a 54 cents per gallon tax on ethanol from brazil. they are basically forcing us back to oil.

i say use hydrogen. can be done easily and safely. google roy mcallister. very very interesting.
 sanderick

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Posted: 3/11/2008 8:35:46 PM
About 6 years ago an energy plan was put towards congress that would have addressed the energy crisis. Yes, it is a crisis, cause Oil is finite.

Congress was to busy playing politics to pass the bill. Imagine what research could have been done in that time.

HERE IS THE SOLUTION

http://www.livescience.com/environment/070911_ap_salt_water.html

Yes, SALT WATER CAN BURN!!

YES SALT WATER IS PLENTIFUL

SHARE THE LINK WITH EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!!!

IN THE MEANTIME, WE GOTTA BUILD A CAR THAT RUNS ON SALT WATER.

 silverback1966

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Posted: 3/11/2008 8:37:22 PM
no i knew i was paying for it i also live in this town!! and i live two minutes from work.so i could walk if i wanted to .you see i drive a big truck but i fill up every two to three weeks.i saw this coming so i bought a house close to work not thirty forty miles away.
 silverback1966

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Posted: 3/11/2008 8:41:51 PM
thats 300 to 400 a month!! not per 3 months and our summers in texas last until november.and when it does get cold same thing.
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