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 andyaa

Joined: 12/20/2006
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Posted: 3/25/2008 11:52:11 AM
Why dont you just order your shopping online from the supermarkets and get it delivered. Your online right now. You wont use plastic bags full stop. Also you will save on the pollutants your car will put out as the 1 van will deliver to many and you wont clogg the roads up with your traffic. Seems pretty obvious to me!!

If anyone says they dont have a credit card to purchase online they can use a pre-paid debit card now which works the same.
 925dancer

Joined: 4/7/2006
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Posted: 3/25/2008 11:54:45 AM
It's all about habit and our laziness as a nation that we are so affronted that they dare want to reduce our excessive plastic bag usage by charging us.

In New Zealand there are a few places that charge you for plastic bags, certainly made me use less.

Nobody can in their right mind think clogging up the planet with oodles of plastic is a good thing. Okay, plastic bags aren't the only culprit but they are a huge, easily reduceable one and every step is a good thing I think.

I don't always remember to take my re-usables but I'm getting better, it's just a routine and habit you get into, the longer I have had the bags the more I am using them. They are a million times better than the stupid plastic ones anyway and for the number of uses you get out of them more than makes up for the couple of quid outlay at the beginning.

Plastic bags are needless waste, charge me for them if you like, I am all in favour.
 the cats pyjamas

Joined: 3/14/2008
Msg: 53
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Posted: 3/25/2008 11:57:33 AM
Lots of folk (me included) forget to take their hessian reusable bags to the supermarket, here's how I get around it.......when the shopping has gone through the checkout, put it back into the trolley, then load it into the boot, when u get home go into house get bags, load them to take shopping into house, yes it takes a couple more minutes, but what would you be doing with those few mins? Saving the world???????
 Pilkington

Joined: 12/28/2007
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Posted: 3/25/2008 12:16:57 PM
I'm guilty of taking fresh bags each time i go to the supermarket, but i save them, and when i have a bag full take them to one of my local shops.
Lots of the local shops are glad to use them.
Ask your local small greengrocer, butcher, plumbers, or any of the charity shops.
Probably they then go to landfill, but at least they are all getting one more use.
 nomalik

Joined: 2/27/2008
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Posted: 3/26/2008 7:14:48 AM
I know some supermarkets here are already charging for plastic bags and so far I have not seen anybody or in that case myself, wasting the bags of that markets, normally I recycle or carry a bag from other market, if I am to buy some thing from there, so it is a good idea to put a small charge on these bags to reduce their usage, and in the landfills these bag do not deteriorate for 100 years!. The best thing to do will be to ban them altogether and ask people to use cotton or other reusable bags
 Tan_Y_Ddraig

Joined: 1/28/2007
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Posted: 3/26/2008 7:50:44 AM

And in the landfills these bag do not deteriorate for 100 years!


Or more..

Or never!!!

Even biodegradation will not solve any landfill shortage.

Conventional landfills are designed to entomb solid waste in a dry condition and to minimize the amount of moisture which contacts the wast, (preserving it in the same condition the day it went in!!).

A landfill typically contains about 30% moisture, while biodegradation requires moisture levels of about 65%.

In other words, even biodegradable products will no degrade much if at all, in conventional landfills.

We need to look deeper, beyond the landfill soultions.
 Veet Patel

Joined: 4/7/2008
Msg: 57
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Posted: 5/6/2008 1:05:13 PM

I think we should all buy bags and stop using the plastic ones

so do I

 xafier

Joined: 10/7/2007
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Posted: 5/6/2008 2:10:00 PM
I have a reusable bag from Tesco, I keep it in my car and generally remember to take it out when I do a shop... I never really do big shops and it fits a surprising amount in it, probably about 2 plastic bags worth because they're a lot more sturdy! Not bad for like 50p or whatever it cost!

I'm trying to be much more better for the environment at the moment, and to myself, healthier food for me and creating less rubbish too! I need to sort out some boxes to keep things in so I can recycle more than just paper/card and do trips to the local tip to recycle
 maggy456

Joined: 11/9/2007
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Posted: 5/6/2008 2:29:46 PM
It is about high time we took more responcebility for what we do to the inviroment.

The amound of plastic rubbish that my household produces is scary.

It is almost impossible to buy refills for existing bottles, and if they do, they are in plastic bottles too.

Plastic shopping bags are just the tip of the iceberg. I have been using cotton shopping bags for over a decade now.

And what is the point of buying the bags from the shops, if they are made of plastic too. At least some retailors had the sence to make them out of organic materials.
 lostinthe system

Joined: 1/26/2008
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Posted: 5/6/2008 3:12:17 PM
hi all, here's my first post. I dont think bags from supermarkets are the real problem, it's the amount of plastic agriculture uses to grow the food, that goes into the bags thats the problem. You just need to go around a rural areas to find out how much plastic farmers use, from poly tunnels,Hay wrap or just lining the fields. I was on bus the other day (i live in the country) and there must have been 100 acres covered in Polythene. Carrier bags are essentialy being picked on due to (i)Acceptable tax(e.g people eviromental conscions) (ii) An Easy target - visible on every shop.

I think it should also be noted that the polytheine for bags etc is very low grade, to low for industry/manufacturing so as a by product of the petrol/fractional distillation process it would only be burned or wasted anyway.Above all, I suppose you could argue they are recylcled due to people using them as bin liners,book carriers and every bag has a second use.They are just not officialy recylced.Just my thoughts, but a bit fatigued by enviromentalists.
 valen_sinclair

Joined: 10/13/2007
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Posted: 5/7/2008 2:24:35 AM
I have several re-usable fabric bags that I bought for a mere 50p from co-op/rainbow.
I snear in disgust at people who still use plastic baags, rainbow in my town at least have now banned them, instead they charge 6p for a bio-degradable one which I can then line my waste food bin with and use there....a great form of recycling.
It doesn't hurt for everyone to recycle...sure we might get the odd arrogant P%^&*K who thinks he knows best and says oh i don't like being preached too, but jeez would it hurt to recycle? would it really take so much of your time??
 smoochiegal

Joined: 5/18/2005
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Posted: 5/7/2008 3:41:34 AM
Why can't we be like most other countries and have recycable paper bags even those with handles. Does this not make sense!! Maybe there's something I'm missing!

XJX
 formulasfataltotheflesh

Joined: 5/4/2008
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Posted: 5/7/2008 9:02:24 AM
no more plastic bags could mean the number of glue sniffers could go down?
 ~ Daisy ~

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Posted: 5/7/2008 9:28:33 AM
I work for one of the dreaded large supermarkets and they introduced reuseable (sp) bag for life bags 4 weeks ago as the new way forward, and are fazing out the normal ones.

I'm not normally a checkout operator, but have to lend a hand if it gets busy.....

And the amount of abuse we have had to put up with from about 60% of the customers who dont want to have to use the bag for life bags or bring/buy the hessian type ones is unbelievable. I even had them thrown back in my face when they were given away as opposed to the now 5p charge.

You'd think they were being asked to murder their grannies!

So whilst on here, most folk say they are already using their own, its not like that in real life, there are some real miserable stooges out there, who care nowt for the enviroment if it means that they actually have to do something or dare I even say it..... make a few changes in shopping habits.
 Fletton1

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Posted: 5/7/2008 10:57:29 AM
Can only speak for Carrefour or Auchan as that's all we have round this end but they have already stopped using plastic bags. You can buy stronger ones for a few cents at the checkout, and they are replaced when you take them back knackered. Other than that you put your shopping into the trolley and load the car with it lose.
If they can change their habits here with little problem, I'm sure the English can.

Just over the border in La Jonquera, the Spanish supermarket has a pile of cardboard boxes for you to use. Remember when our supermarkets used to do that for you? Much easier to carry the shopping in and more eco friendly.

Shouldn't there be a push for a return to that system?
 honeybee_1305

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Posted: 5/9/2008 9:43:34 AM
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts9464066.aspx

Ah plagiarism; I've said it before and I'll say it again, is the sincerest form of flattery. However, play by the rules. Everyone else has to.

Thanks for listening.
 ~shortwave~

Joined: 1/17/2008
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Posted: 5/9/2008 10:18:24 AM
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I know its not the done thing to point out peoples mistakes on here but which one of us is having a blonde moment? How is it plagiarism?

OT to the m&s employee I have a collection of your bags for life and I said thankyou each time, they are so much nicer than tesco's
Plastic Bags from Supermarkets
Posted: 5/9/2008 12:14:10 PM
I have taken mine to be re-cycled at the supermarket...

I have taken my bag for life,not because the planet is as important as getting my points.

I have taken plastic bags from the supermarket...so that i can use for refuse at home...

The thing is when i use bags bought purposely for rubbish(paid for off isle shelf )-they arent always decomposable.not the cheap variety that suits my pocket..

SO I ASK- Whats the difference if i take bags to bin or buy them ....they take as long to break down in the soil just the same...though one is free and obviously the other is not-though they do the same job-????

enlighten moi- someone please?---(thanks in advance)

And for all my sins-i would act accordingly if they were banned-though if i forget mine then what!:0)
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