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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/5/2008 2:37:46 PM | The option still exists... you just can't amass as much "stuff."
If you're content to live without having all of the technological crap that has come in the last 50 years, you could probably get by one one income... at least-- depending on what that one income was.
I've known people who had stay at home mothers. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/5/2008 6:52:17 PM |
If your husband or boyfriend hit and abused you - tough - it was between a man and his wife. Your husband could rape you and you had to take it. You squeezed out children you didn't necessarily want. Women had narrow roles in society, oh, but there was that PTA and Home Makers thing to look forward too. The 'Good Old Days' ? Feh! I'm glad to see that a male has posted the truth about "The good Ole 50 Days". I was born in 1953, by 1958 I was well aware that Dad's went to work Monday - Friday....and stayed drunk all weekend. Some of my fondest childhood memories include being taken from my bed to go sleep on the neighbors couch when the fighting (my parents) got too loud. My own mother did not work because she had polio and as I found out much later in life; she's tried to find employment but no one would hire a crippled woman. As for the other women...my grandmother worked, all of my aunts worked, all of the neighbor women worked. I'm trying to think of a single (1) woman who did NOT work...and I can't think of 1. Whether they worked in hospitals, as nurses, aides, cafeteria or janitorial; or whether they earned 5 cents per shirt by taking in laundry and ironing; or earned 50 cents an hour for babysitting, WOMEN WORKED.
The "Leave it to Beaver" and "Father Knows Best" propaganda was perpetuated by the US Department of Labor AFTER the end of WWII. Never before in history had women sat at home on their butts, or mopped and waxed the kitchen floor in pearls and heels, nor did they go to PTA meetings or Ladies Luncheons. Prior to WWII, while our economy was still primarily based on agriculture, women plowed fields until sons were big enough to take over, cash crops were generally left in the hands of male family members, but the family "garden"....which fed the ENTIRE family (usually 8-14 people) was the sole duty of the female members. Canning, laundry, making clothes (store bought clothing was a luxury few people knew) were "women's work". If you think that it was "easy", then I suggest you give it a whirl! There were no automatic washers (in fact, many considered themselves lucky if they could afford a wringer washer), there was no such thing as "permanent press", so EVERYTHING had to be ironed. Ohhhh yes, and even if you had a wringer washer, there were no clothes dryers, everything had to be hung outside on a line, then brought in and "sprinkled", left in the refrigerator for several hours, and then pulled out a few pieces at a time and ironed. (It was impossible to get wrinkles out of dry cloth). At the onset of WWII, with hundreds of thousands of men being shipped off to war, the "propaganda machine" urged women to do their patriotic duty by going into factories as welders, assemblers, quality inspectors, material handlers, machine operators (and I'm not talking sewing machines). When the war ended and the production of war goods diminished, unemployment rose to astronomical levels. NOT all women left the work force voluntarily....or happily. MANY were widows with children to feed, and found that their only source of survival was remarriage. With the man shortage created by the war; that was not always possible. Women who left those good paying manufacturing jobs in the newly created "industrial age" were typically not happy taking positions as grocery checkout girls at 1/2 the wages, particularily when they KNEW they could do the jobs that paid decent livable wages (they'd done them)...but those were reserved for men only.
Soon, we had automatic washers and dryers, electric canopeners, electric sewing machines....ohhh, and let's not forget store bought clothing which was stitched up by women and CHILDREN (the war orphans...as young as 5 & 6 yrs.) in sweat shops where 16 hour days were mandatory and injuries were recorded by the hour not by the week; and wages were typically LESS than what a woman or child could earn by taking in ironing. (There were NO minimum wage laws then). All of these new inventions were contrived to make women "happy"......and WORTHLESS.
I suggest that the folly of thinking that the 1950's culture was a utopia, should examine history and see that the concept of a "stay at home mom" was NOT designed for the well being of children, but rather just one more radical extreme perpetuated by those who wanted a "quick fix" to a complex problem.
Going 1 step further, when these newly created "happy, WORTHLESS" women (the June Cleavers) who were NOT married to Ward Cleavers, but to men who were clueless that it took more to run a household than just the mortgage payment (utilities, groceries, clothes, school fees, etc.) realized that it was easier to go to work themselves to pay for these "luxuries" (utilities, groceries, clothes, etc) than it was to get the crap knocked out of them for begging for an extra $20 a week....they entered the workforce again...at very low paying jobs. Generally, a "working wife" was just the blow to the ego that a man needed to seek a woman who would "appreciate him"....or at least appreciate the drinks he would buy her at the bar. Soon, the divorce rate soared to 50% and the average child support payment was about $10 a week/per child. Ahhhh, but this was prior to CSEA.....so with no agency to enforce these payments, it was more of less a "voluntary program". Needless to say, from 1960, until 1981 when CSEA was established, LESS than 2 out of 10 fathers paid ANY child support. The average length of time that a father paid child support in 1978 was 2 years. After 2 years, he'd generally remarried and was now supporting the new wife's children (who's father had abandoned them for his wife #2) so he felt that was exactly what his exwife should depend on. With a 50% divorce rate, almost 70% of all children growing up at below poverty level, soaring juvenile delinquency; the government realized that the "quick fix" of the 50's had backfired. Staggering welfare roles and juvenile delinquency was the new pet peeve and the remedy was....you got it....the "Formula". We now have "lifetime spousal support", outrageous child support amounts, and men who can't afford to date....but who are looking high and low for women who made it out of the viscious cycle and who can afford to support them in the same style which they are supporting their ex wives.
The next phase of the cycle (which our government has yet to do a study on) are the newly created group of impoverished persons......women whos child support ended, and they have no pension, no skills, and mimimal Social Security benefits (based on a 10 yr marriage to their ex husband).
But, the question I believe was....what would I take back to the 50's? Well, I've never left the REAL 50's. I began working at age 14. By age 30, I was working 70-90 hrs a week, and raising 4 children. I was very fortunate to have wonderful grandparents who instilled in me a strong work ethic and who taught me that there are NO FREE RIDES in life.....for either gender. As a result, I have MY OWN pension, my own full SS benefits, my own health insurance, my own bank accts, my own home, car......ALL of which I've paid for from my own labors. I thank God daily that my grandparents did now allow me to believe in the myths of "non working" individuals counting on the benevolence of others. Proverbs 31: 10-31 were instilled before I understood 1/2 the words.
Those individuals who bought into the 50's propoganda would like to say that as a working mother I must have neglected my children. I always thought it funny however that as a working mother....I still attended Junior Achievement with my daughters....as a company advisor. When their girlfriends, who's mother's were "stay at home moms" would come over to bake...it was those girls who had NO idea how to use a measuring cup. At school, if a seam ripped, my daughters had a repair kit and knew how to mend a seam....something that the "stay at home mom's kids didn't understand.....I suppose it was because Mom was too busy with PTA meetings to teach her children anything.
I was there. Graduated high school in 1960. Anyone who recalls the 50s fondly was not there. bearded romantic has it right on this point and one other. That "feminism" had NOTHING to do with "equality". Most so called "feminists" are not looking for "equality"...but for a free ride. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/5/2008 7:01:22 PM | Re post 52:
Ya know, I may get criticized for this, but I would love to stay at home and have babies, cook, clean and run the household, having supper ready when my husband came home from work. I mean, what did we ever do without computers, TiVo, cellphones and all this technological crap? My grandmother was an amazing woman with 8 children... sewing their clothes, gardening, cooking, baking... and all that jazz... I just wish the option was there for a single income family full of love and respect.
Not criticism. a comment, in comparative/contrast relation to the Opost:
And I would love to be an Ancient Spartan and work out and be a soldier all day, every day while Helots did all the slaving and go to Thermopylae and fight the Persians and die among with king Leonidas! Right! Or spend all day working out, doing poetry and philosophing like the Ancient Athenians. NOT! Why? Because the women stayed at home so athletics and poetry and symposia and war w/o women side by side (etc) must have been boring, IMO! lol So were the 1950s, with the woman staying at home and the workplace full of only other guys! No fun!
2008 and the 2000s may not be perfect but it sure beats the 1950s AD and the 490s BC, etc! The only better time was the hippies time, late 1960s! And then came ... disco (yikes)!!! | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/5/2008 7:12:20 PM | it would suck for me....being a woman of colour!....and of Hindu birth.
my life would probably be one of an arranged marriage and if I did live in Canada... I would think the dating pool would be pretty small...actually there would be no dating allowed for me...and I don't think too many guys would go for a brown gal....
....so... going back... the good ol' days are not always so good. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/5/2008 8:33:51 PM | I like to think i AM a bit of a 1950's housewife, just without the husband hahahah i LOVE being girly and looking nice all the time, I love to have a spic&span shiney house at all times, I love sewing and cooking and baking, and believe in saving all my love for one special boy :) yay!
That being said, I'm not going to throw away a University degree LOL. Fortunately, it's something I can do at home while I take care of the kiddies (but they WILL go to daycare for some of the time - you have to socialize the little bunnies). I like a MAN to be just that...a MAN...not a knuckle-dragging neanderthal who doesn't appreciate or respect me, but a MAN who's strong enough to know he needs me desperately :)
sigh....doris day had it right.... | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 12:40:31 AM | | Should have really stayed out of this one oh well. Just a quick opinion but women would be back under a man's thumb. Biting their lip for the "good" of their family. Something tells me we're not going back to that. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 1:28:30 AM | custis... you and me both! bearded romantic spoke the truth for me. Voltaire's words ground me well... remind me why I hold liberal views. As for wanting to return to the 50's values and norms?? Nooooooooooooo way. Leaving high school to produce children (however well they turned out) ??? What did many of these women find after the last child flew the coop?? An empty life.
My mother had to leave school aged 15 to work and contribute to the family finances. She was, and is, a highly intelligent woman who would have cherished the opportunity to educate herself further. In the late 40's/early fifties England, a working class female had exactly no chance of doing so.
I am eternally grateful that the women's movement has given me the opportunity to raise my daughter, educate myself, live a life I am proud of and contribute to the society that raised me.  | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 1:49:04 AM | wow, after reading all the this I have a headache! I believe the original intend of the topic was to suggest what it would be like to live with the concept of the stay at home mom and the working husband of the 50' s not the hangups of it. Every generation has had problems, but not as seen today.
I think that if families could make it on one income it would be benificial for one of the spouses to stay home. Traditionally that would be the woman, but I don' t really care which. I think our society today has so intoxicated us on the lust of having more and more stuff that it has watered down our families. When was the last time a family sat down together and ate a meal at HOME and sat there for a couple of hours and talked about the day? What we have is the kids can' t wait to get to their computer games, or sporting events, dad brings work home and can' t relax, mom is frustrated because dad is gone all the time, baby is sick, there is no heat because the cost of heating the hime has increased which in turn frustrated dad and mom more.
When I was a boy in the 60' s I remember men coming to our house and talking away our TV. My mom didn' t work, a choice she made, and I wondered what was going on and I asked my dad and he said Ed, we can' t afford that so they are taking it. You know what though? Every Sunday we were in the car going somewhere as a family. Somewhere we could be together away from the hustle and bustle of the city. Fishing, sports that only included us, there were 3 boys and my mom and dad. We would do this every Sunday. You know when I grew up and married in 1981, I tried to incorporate that into my new family and I failed to make sure my new wife thought as I did. Her ideal was to work every hour she could although it wasn' t necessary. So I took our daughters every Sunday and we went on drives to different places, without their mother, because she felt her work was more important than spending time with her family. I was trying to instill in them the sense of family, you know how it turned out? I am on a dating site at 46!!! My daughters prefer the woman who didn' t raise them. Who do I blame? I blame the way our kids are bombarded by standards that undermine the fabric of our society.
If a man or woman insists that you eat as a family you are silly. You can' t be serious. You can' t require that...we have rights you know....I marvel that some of the strongest family units I see today are those where a woman has taken control of HER household and raises HER children with the help of a strong man who works to support HIS family while she stays HOME! I have seen it time and time again. Is that what I expect? No, but I would require family members to spend time with each other often. I was talking to a single mother the other day and she has 3 teenage daughters and she was saying how she thrashed her daughters while playing Yahtsee...I laughed and asked how often do you play games, and she replied, we play every night. I thought my goodness I would like to meet them. So I was invited to their house and I saw love, affection, caring, and a family unit that was united. I wanted in, really... | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 5:55:16 AM | Hmmm...I wouldn't mind bringing back some of the fashions of the 50's for us gals. Poodle skirts, nipped in waists, pony tails... Loved the clothes of the era.
The rest? Forget it. Not that the "2000"s are that great...but no, I would NOT want to go back to the 50's as a woman.
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 6:16:37 AM |
Ya know, I may get criticized for this, but I would love to stay at home and have babies, cook, clean and run the household, having supper ready when my husband came home from work. I mean, what did we ever do without computers, TiVo, cellphones and all this technological crap? My grandmother was an amazing woman with 8 children... sewing their clothes, gardening, cooking, baking... and all that jazz... I just wish the option was there for a single income family full of love and respect.
You can do what ever you want. Unfortunately there will be criticism but there will be people who will criticize you for anything. The single income is possible as there are still many families that do it today, they seem to have different priorities (not better, different) and seem to do OK.
As many have pointed out the 50's was a marketing fantasy that sold the "American Dream", new car, own your own home, have the pretty wife at home that took care of your "assets", the average man was king of his castle in a way that was never possible before.
Lets face it for the average male this "fantasy" seems like a good deal but in reality when you dig a little deeper it really wasnt all that terrific. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 7:22:24 AM | We, as a society, seem to be much angrier overall than we were in the 50's.
Would we have seen the things we see today on say, on the evening news or youtube, whereby a young soldier in Iraq(Korea) holds up a puppy in his hand, makes some comment about isn't it cute?, then lobs the critter into the air as if it were a baseball aimed at the second baseman. A white paraplegic inmate being booked into jail being dumped out of his wheelchair onto his face by a deputy of color.
Today we have a woman and a man of color vying for the democratic presidential bid. THAT would not have happened in 1950.
The 50's were the dark ages in terms of mental health. Unwed mothers were a disgrace and the fathers didn't have to be accountable. The 50's were times of few choices. eg...you are asked to pick up a tube of toothpaste...Crest for a friend. 1950-one choice, 2008 -15 choices. ABC, CBS, NBC...til 10pm. I'm willing to bet that filing taxes was easier. Ironing sheets...yeah, that's important. Sealing a deal with a handshake. Insurance and litigation. Healthcare. Media coverage. Political stalemate. Rock n Roll.
All we can do is forge ahead, keep the faith and do unto others as we would like them to do unto us. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 8:00:24 AM |
That is exactly my point Merrylass.........those TV programs were far from being an accurate depiction of what life in the 1950's was offering, but the fact remains that there are both young men and women in today's society who would like the return of the "traditional roles" without being ridiculed by the rest of society for their choices.
Oh puleeeze!
Feminism's ideal was to teach women to have spines. If a woman is so lacking in any sort of sense of self-worth or independence that she chooses her path in life by what she thinks 'society' will do, then she's hopeless anyway. Going back to the 50s won't help her. Reading some feminist literature and learning why she is fully entitled to make her own choices might.
Not to mention the fact that 'the rest of society' isn't 'ridiculing' women for choosing to stay home. I've never heard any woman ridicule any other woman for being a stay-at-home mother. So the big boogeyman you're so afraid of doesn't even exist. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 8:43:20 AM | Why on Earth would I want to go back to the '50s?
I like women that don't regard themselves as property, who have their own ideas, who can make their own way in the world. Above all, who are people in their own right.
I think there's something wrong with men that would want a Stepford Wife. Or a woman who wants to be a Stepford Wife.
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 8:54:57 AM | Yes, back to the days of "Ozzie and Harriet", "Leave it to Beaver" and "Father Knows Best." I'll buy that. Back to the days of vacuum tubes; none of your nasty computers and cell phones, a simple life with few cares and worries ... except for the Soviet Union rattling its bombers and missiles.
Problem is, we now live in the days of Father Knows Beaver, Leave it to Harriet, and Father Knows Ozzie Too! Good days for Father since he divorced Harriet! Yes, sadly, you notice poor Harriet got left holding the bag, but ... on the other hand ... at least she doesn't have to put up with Father anymore! | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 9:41:27 AM | It's funny to hear that people are frustrated by these society norms and how it's "not okay" to want what they want...
WHO CARES? Why does a person have to worry about what the society thinks of his or her personal choices? Granted, if what a person wants to do is blow up the whole time, SURE, the community's opinions should be taken into consideration....
But for something like HOW TO LIVE YOUR LIFE? The lifestyle of a person has nothing to do with the society unless it involves a great deviancy from sanity. That is, if a person wants to lead a lifestyle of torture, etc.
Whether a woman wants to be a housewife or a C.E.O... just do it, why let society's opinions get in the way of that? Why even consider it?! Are women now days so insecure about what they really want that they have to constantly question whether it is what society would want for them?
If so, let it be said that being a housewife is a profession. Being a housewife is being the C.E.O, the General Manager, as well as the Employee of your home. Your salary? The well-being and eventual success of your children and your family. Your benefits? The unconditional love of your children and your husband.
And as a working mother, those benefits are available to you as well, as long as you know how to balance your working life with your family life. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 10:23:41 AM | Not a 1950's lady...and would not want to go back there...no way!
I love the diversity that is and continues to happen as life flows on.....
Okay, I COULD add a pair of those awesome saddle shoes to my collection though! | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 12:54:01 PM | If we are talking about America in the 50's, I'd take back the diversity and working opportunity for women. What I like about the 50's and I have caught myself saying this back when I was younger too,couples treated eachother with respect. Men were expected to be gentlemen and women ladies.
It would nice to have a man want you to stay home, and for him to want to take care of you. But, it would be nice to get out of the house too. I prefer having a housekeeper, an assistant and being the brain that keeps things moving along. However, I don't mind doing my share of the work, but in today's society when you have two people that work, both people have to help out at home to keep a nice home, regardless of whether there is help or not. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 2:51:08 PM |
It's funny to hear that people are frustrated by these society norms and how it's "not okay" to want what they want... WHO CARES? Why does a person have to worry about what the society thinks of his or her personal choices? Granted, if what a person wants to do is blow up the whole time, SURE, the community's opinions should be taken into consideration.... But for something like HOW TO LIVE YOUR LIFE? The lifestyle of a person has nothing to do with the society unless it involves a great deviancy from sanity. That is, if a person wants to lead a lifestyle of torture, etc. Whether a woman wants to be a housewife or a C.E.O... just do it, why let society's opinions get in the way of that? Why even consider it?! Are women now days so insecure about what they really want that they have to constantly question whether it is what society would want for them? If so, let it be said that being a housewife is a profession. Being a housewife is being the C.E.O, the General Manager, as well as the Employee of your home. Your salary? The well-being and eventual success of your children and your family. Your benefits? The unconditional love of your children and your husband. And as a working mother, those benefits are available to you as well, as long as you know how to balance your working life with your family life.
Dear Lixiette,
Your contribution to the discussion is so sensible and right to the point. In fact, this discussion shouldn't be taking place at all! Let every person make his or her decisions: to marry or not, to have children or not, and how many and at what age to have them, to be a stay-at-home mom or to work, full-time or part-time, etc.
Just make you decision based on your values, your life goals, and your personality. What's there to argue about? Only very insecure people insist that everyone must make the same decisions as themselves.
Blessings, Lixiette. With young people like you, the world has a future.
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 3:14:11 PM | Msg 68 and 71
Excellent points!
You can do whatever you want to do. Who says you can't?
I think what people are really craving is the closeness of human connection. People want to be valued and respected. People want some sort of order to their chaotic lives. The myth of the 50s reflect those things.
Each of those things start with us. If you want respect then simply don't tolerate disrespect. If you want connection reach out instead of staying in locked away. If you want order to your life then cut out some of the crap from societal expectations. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 3:34:12 PM | I have always thought I was born in the wrong era. I would have loved to be a June Cleaver....taking care of my husband, kids and home.
Part of the problem today is that women don't trust their husbands to make sound decisions for their family so they begin to wear the pants, and men are quite happy to give up the role as bread winner and leader of their family not taking their responsibilities seriously. But...that's just part of it.
We live in a disposable world and one of instant gratification....when you tire of something or if something makes you feel uncomfortable, you throw it away and get something new.
The days of committment and hard work seem to be gone. The days of "forever" are definately long gone. | |
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 5:03:26 PM |
I believe that I would love to go back to that time...i was never there but from what I hear, woman were more respected. There was none of the issues that we have now. Like every time i log in here there is someone that is asking for sex. Whatever happened to good friendly conversation? Overall, it would be nice to that when we have kids we have the option of staying home and getting to know our kids
I think you watched toooo much Leave it to Beaver, Nikkie... let's pretend for a moment.
You are NO LONGER "Nikkie", you are now MRS. James Seattlerain1... that is how you will introduce and be introduced for the rest of your life. You are NOT allowed to work outside the home. You are a servant. You play mommie all day, but there's no internet or any other outlet to talk to adults. If you end up with an abusive husband, tough luck, you can't get a divorce. If he beats you, the cop you call will just give you condescending smile and wink at your husband as they go back to the squad car. There are no tampons. No Microwaves. If you are raped, the judge will fully take under consideration what YOU DID / WORE to make the man do it. Bleach is THE household cleaning supply you own.
You can HAVE the 50's... what a nightmare.
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 6:25:04 PM |
If relationships could revert to the 1950's era, what would you keep from this era to take back to that era as far as relationships go.........a type of "Blast into the Past" if you will.............. I think ngat73 sums up my attitude the best:
What I like about the 50's and I have caught myself saying this back when I was younger too,couples treated eachother with respect. Men were expected to be gentlemen and women ladies. That is what I liked about it, too. I'd like to find a time when getting a real date was easier than getting sex.
As far as work goes, my mother worked all her life, in very responsible jobs. So did my grandmother. In fact, I don't remember anyone ridiculing women for working, or any women who DIDN'T work, except for women married to rich men.
But would I like to go and live back then? I cannot say. But I can tell you this: I was called into the head of my department in university, and was told that if I had gone to university in the 1960s, I would have definitely been treated much better, because I was really good at my subject, rather than how good I was at being the "right kind of person". I would also have found it much easier to meet someone for a relationship, rather than sex.
RE msg 26 by ItsMargo:
HOW TO BE A GOOD WIFE Home Economics High School Text Book, 1954 I bought a book from 1913, called "Don'ts for husbands". It's about the same size as the "Don'ts for wives". I'll just quote ONE point from it:
Don't condescend: you are not the only person in the house with brains. There are many more, pointing out all the things that most men do nowadays. And that's from 1913, when things were even less gender-equal than the 1950s.
RE msg 41 by HappyGirl5668:
Putting all the responsibility for making a living on the man can be an unbearable burden. When things go wrong, as they usually do somewhere along the way, the pressure can totally destroy a man. I saw it happen to my dad. I even saw how it difficult it was for my ex when my career went further than his. Nothing has changed in this regard. A women with no job is a home-maker. A man without a job is called a bum, even if it's only for a month. This difference in how men and women are seen, is the only reason of many divorces.
RE msg 65 by Merrylass:
Feminism's ideal was to teach women to have spines. If a woman is so lacking in any sort of sense of self-worth or independence that she chooses her path in life by what she thinks 'society' will do, then she's hopeless anyway. Going back to the 50s won't help her. Reading some feminist literature and learning why she is fully entitled to make her own choices might. So what do you call a woman who is sleeping around, only because that is what all the other women are telling her to do, and ridiculing her for not doing otherwise? Look around you. Come to the UK. You'll see that such peer pressure is extremely common. If you don't see it where you are, it's because there, people are still living in the '50s to some regard.
Not to mention the fact that 'the rest of society' isn't 'ridiculing' women for choosing to stay home. I've never heard any woman ridicule any other woman for being a stay-at-home mother. So the big boogeyman you're so afraid of doesn't even exist. I've seen it. Many times.
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| If relationships could revert to the 1950's era...... Posted: 3/6/2008 8:05:34 PM |
Um, yeah I don't know one girl who wishes she could marry fresh out of high school and be a house wife to squeeze out a few..
And women were considered spinsters if they were still single at 25. | |
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