| I don't care what you write......
Posted: 6/8/2008 5:55:54 AM | Starting from the beginning(I know the rules have changed, but I thought it should start there for me!!!)
Feeding upon the frenzy
is what I will be doing
writing what I feel
only in honesty!!
So here I shall go
For the Four days
he will be away
I'll write and write all day and night
'bout a resoluting of self
Looking in the mirror
to calm my missings!!!!
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Joined: 4/18/2007
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| I don't care what you write......
Posted: 6/10/2008 2:49:43 AM | Reaching back a ways to #314 - happydurga
"taking notes and thinking thoughts"
seems impossible to concentrate
while all of life unfolds
waiting to be experienced
cannot take the time
to express it all in words
it has to be felt to be truly understand
come see what all the fuss is about
the logic of the universe is perverse
the math is precise
on's and off's, yes's and no's, true's and false's, 0's and 1's
it makes sense, too much sense
Is it God?
Is it Intelligent Design?
Is it pure chance?
You tell me. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 3:19:46 PM | it makes sense, too much sense
so much so
that I wanna know
how a creator so wise could send anyone to hell
no matter the bad the people do
even a psychiatrist could tell
where that shyt comes from
and I could too
by hanging out with you...
and listening.....watching....
perception...isn't it grand...
how would the all knowing God need an "upper hand?"
and If I could see the reasoning behind all these things
I'm sure God's understanding is greater..because he knows everything
So, these man-made religions, giving God human characteristics
make me wonder if the complicated plan isn't a little more simplistic
than I've been led to believe
so I'll continue searching, reading, and retrieve
the answers
As my maker I would think he deserves that much
We'll spend hours looking for answers to everything else...
but no more than a minute to hear his touch | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 3:54:39 PM | Great line Ash...
“We'll spend hours looking for answers to everything else...
but no more than a minute to hear His touch”
humankind seems to seek immediate
gratification, impatient
Must find
Must have
I need
I want
so selfish we have become
even our prayers go unfinished
incomplete with spiritual ADD
the ego has become God
and that’s not Faith
that’s not Love
as a result it brings no relief
even when unfinished, even when unspoken
the answers come, we must take the
time to listen
but first we need
to blend away the ego which
has nothing to gain with selfish reason
thats when all those prayers
all those answers and all we need is given
but first it requires submission | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 3:57:36 PM | - BIRTH OF GODS -
Gods arise from mind of man
How the world to understand
Not that there is nuaght of truth
Just deluded from our youth
For the energies are there
Drawing form to take their share
Thus if you believe in such
Energies will form as much
And if many think the same
Manifest that Gods then came
As for Gods they all do find
Dwelling strong in human mind
But the tales are metaphores
Weighing morals, nothing more
With the grains of old events
Colouring the tales bespent
And the One that you refer
From Sumerians He stir
Spun from want of Abraham
Still just one of thought of man
Pagan Gods as they all be
Even Christianity
From it's roots so far from Ur
Now distorted and a blur
All the same in every faith
Do good things, be not a wraith
Murder not, beget good seeds
Help others with toil and deeds
Thus the tales you see are fun
Whether many Gods or one
All religions serve to thee
Lessons, life, morality
- Erik - | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 4:32:11 PM | - "Better I deem to badly dance, than to stride wrathful with clouded vision." - Heimdale ( From the Ballad of Motsugnir, Skjold's Edda )
- Erik - | |
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Joined: 4/18/2007
Msg: 482 | |
| I don't care what you write......
Posted: 6/10/2008 4:42:24 PM | These lines were awesome Ash:
make me wonder if the complicated plan isn't a little more simplistic
That grasped everything I feel about spirituality in a nutshell.
As my maker I would think he deserves that much
and that one is just too good, left me all tingly. | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 4:43:26 PM | excellent writes from both of you there!...and welcome Erik....always nice to see new faces and have new insight to "feel"...
this quote puzzle me a little though....
does it not take clouded vision to dance badly?
and if the vision isn't clouded and you're dancing badly, does this not make you all the more responsible for your actions?
Or does this refer to the dancing as joyful...
and the stride as wrathful, and therefore the worse of the two?
woulda wrote a poem bout this
but it woulda took me a minute
and your company I'd miss
Loving your insight
and therefore wanting more
a grasp on spirituality
is one thing I adore
edit post: Render.....yay!....been so long since we've played on the threads together!....I can feel you from miles away brother....soooo glad you took that plunge....let the learning begin!!!....as for that last line that left you all tingly....i do believe that this was part of our 6 hour discussion that day.....i'm still searching too...but never stop, yanno?....the religions that are out there offer so much insight it's overwhelming, but it's darned well worth the search if it ultimately leads to peace of mind and peace with the maker...ya dig? | |
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Joined: 4/18/2007
Msg: 484 | |
| I don't care what you write......
Posted: 6/10/2008 4:53:30 PM | ^^^^^^^
Have we fooled ourselves?
the preacher's on TV again
raking in the millions
for his stadium-to-church conversion
Do any of us really have
"a grasp on spirituality"?
or are we all just
grasping at straws?
Do we need the intermediaries
in order to know God, good, justice?
or can we merely step outside
and see it works without the middle man?
I for one don't need another
to tell me what is what
what does he know anyway?
Did God give him his diploma in Theology?
Do not look to others for the answers
You already know them
just sit awhile and contemplate
the thruths that are self-evident
Ash!!! You know the creative shyt comes and goes, but it looks like I'm feelin something, and I'm gonna run with it...
edit: yeah, I dig ;) | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 5:07:51 PM |
Did God give him his dipoloma in Theology?
you won't know if you don't dig through the books and see
some who have written are more in tune
to God....as they search more faithfully
not to say that they are God himself
but those who are more devout
are the ones that God uses moreso
to spread his heart throughout
the many faces and places
and give them ideas to ponder
but rest assured I don't refer too
that money hungry man over yonder
to know completely what you don't believe
I believe you must fully understand what it is that you do not
there's much to learn from lotsa' folks
so give there ideas a shot
but tread ever aware
keep your eyes open and ears too
the things that God intends for you to know
will not cause screaming from the voice within you
mom says God is your gut
that voice within that doesn't quite sound like you
if you pray to him with sincerity
that place of peace....he'll lead you to | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 5:15:42 PM | Thank you, actually I am an old face, just popping through visiting PoF and a few threads here and there. I was intrigued by the poem you posted that preceded my own offering. And of course as an Aesirian I figured I'd leave a different throw on what you may have gathered from others.
It is always interesting to learn of different paths and ideas. But as mentioned before, translations from older languages to new, and obscurity always plague interpretations. The old example of a circle holds true. Thirty people sit in a friendly circle and one writes down a message on a peice of paper. Then they whisper the message into the ear beside them and say "Pass it on", and at the end the thirthieth person writes down what they heard. Of course the two messages are different in most cases, often radically different. Why? because it is human nature to express and add interpretation. Thus it is the same with old literary and oral works. The translations change and meanings of words are shifted. An example from the Book of Skjold:
" Upon the path wended he who was Fjolnir hight. A kenning of alfs and birds of the meadow, no print in the soft earth to leave. A son to see, thus forth did tread the Lord of wolf and wood alike.
The longlight grew, the mist then withered, a glinting the gavelocks in warriors hands. Their circles the rune of Skjold was borne."
Translation:
" Walking along a path was a man named Fjolnir. He was wise to the ways of Elves and birds and left no footprints ( a trait of immortals when wandering in Midgard, or the realm of mankind ) when he walked through mud. He went to see one of his sons and obviously this was Odin ( Lord of Wolf and Wood is a referance point ) the Allfather of the Gods.
The day was well under way. ( Growing longlight and fading mist ) and he spots the gleam of spears ( gavelocks ) in the hands of warriors. Their shields ( circles ) tell him by the insignia ( rune ) that these men serve Skjold."
It's one example of language varience.
More close to home is one from William Shakespear. The most famous line from Romeo and Juliet, BADLY missinterpreted by modern people.
"Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?" < Today most folks misinterpret that and think that it means "Romeo, Romeo where are you Romeo?" BUT, that is NOT even close to what she is asking. She is not asking his location. This is a language gap of only a few hundred years. What she is asking is: "Romeo, Romeo, why are you Romeo?" ( Wherefore is Why in Olde English ) In other words, Why did you have to be born into the family of my family's enemies? She's lamenting their social seperation, not wondering where is is physically at.
Just some interesting litereary notes and quotes. Cheers Ash!
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| I don't care what you write......
Posted: 6/10/2008 5:18:39 PM | Ah, to know the Supreme
and share that relationship with others
"some who have written are more in tune"
and for them I am thankful
They hold the truth as they perceive
and their truth comes from a Good Place
learned ancients have passed their wisdom
down through the ages
wisdom should not be ignored
but analyzed and adapted to the individiual
beware the words of the forceful
and seek the knowledge of the humble | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 5:23:10 PM | Erik - you, my friend, are right on point there, bud!
and Render - loved the following words
beware the words of forceful
and seek the knowledge of the humble
right on point as well | |
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Joined: 4/18/2007
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Posted: 6/10/2008 6:11:14 PM | Ash, I am hard put to even attempt to pick a single solitary line from your last one...
every single letter weighs heavy with truth and is so eloquently put together, but at the same time delivers it so simply.
Speaking from the heart, the further I have turned away is when my life has always been the hardest and the hardest to bear. I always bring that to mind when I find the easy slide and the glide of easy life come upon me..
much love to you~E | |
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Posted: 6/10/2008 6:31:10 PM | Feelin' ya girl....and then some....during those times of "distance" I often remember the footsteps write....as long as I pray I know he doesn't leave my side....and even when I wander (sometimes more lost than others) I know that he's carrying me when I don't know how to "carry" myself.....we get better with practice at carrying ourselve, eh?....as long as we listen to "that voice"
much, much love to you as well, babe!
Ash
edit post: ...and thank you...for the compliments on my write! | |
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Posted: 6/13/2008 3:09:50 PM | I'm afraid my God is old and frail
hearing and vision beginning to fail
unable to see the hurt in the world
or hear all the cries and wails
Can my god not hear the prayers
or is it that he no longer cares
that the swords in our little world
far outnumber all the plowshares
Can we blame him for losing faith
in what's become of the human race
to accept that he can't see or hear
could be our saving grace
I guess what I am saying
is why do we keep on praying
to a God who no longer listens
tired, feeble and graying
Is he powerful and all-giving
but uncaring for the living
or are we the deaf and the blind
how can we be so forgiving
of a God who seems to ignore
suffering, hatred and war
to those who are more devout
is it because fate has given you more
if we are looking for absolution
let's start a revolution
maybe we are all we got
and God is not the solution
so believe in Jesus' teachings
but be wary of all the preaching
for the existence of a benevolent God
may be a bit over-reaching
Don't hide your head in the sand
thinking your life is just grand
there are many lives that are not
for them you must make a stand
We can have a strong moral code
without believing it was bestowed
by a God looking down from above
nothing borrowed nothing owed
but we do owe it to each other
to live as sister and brother
and worship the life you live
bestowed by father and mother | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 7:39:37 AM | A grasp on spirituality
seems so limited anymore
timid are so many
to walk through that door
yet such enlightment is found
when one lets their spirit dance
no longer walking with blinders on
travelling through life in a trance
new heights can be reached
if only we allow ourselves to fly
embrace wind sent messages
that fall sweetly from our sky. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 8:37:05 AM |
when one lets their spirit dance
and removes
the chains
on their feet
they may find
that they
knew
how to
Foxtrot
Hustle
Salsa
Merengue
Samba
Swing
and two step
long before
they had ever even taken
two steps
for the rhythm is in the beating of their heart
and the spirit heard the rhythm
long before the ears began to hear
the feet stepping on themselves
need lessons?
yes....a few
but the song must be felt within you | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 9:36:07 AM | A song felt within
as questions dance in the soul
searching for His touch
for the truth that makes free and whole.
Stay on the path.
Trusting answers to arise
For with open ears and a seeking heart...
Light will shine in your spirit and eyes.
Listen to the music....
question every beat.
for honest doubt leads to the truest faith.
the rhythm of joy soon taking your feet.
~~~~~ a quick write from the bits and pieces above~~~~~~ | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 4:06:26 PM |
and the spirit heard the rhythm
while the trees danced in the summer winds
and the green leaves flowed in time
a sweet summer dance came upon them
a melody unheard by any
until
Him, just one, just one man
paused long enough to hear it
that whisper came to his ears only
while the earthsong played
and the spirit heard the rhythm
grasping what had been missing
for it seemed he had been dancing
on the edge of all that harmony
but never fully committed
until
Her, just one, just one woman
gave him reason to flow and sway
to the gentle rain and the summer winds
that promised all that his heart needed
once he gave himself up to it, let him
be captured by the summer winds
while the rain flowed down their bodies
washed them clean and
made them holy
created freshness
before the Maker
that summer
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Posted: 6/25/2008 8:23:28 AM | while the trees danced in the summer winds
and the greens leaves flowed in time
he weighs the islands as though
they were fine dust.
In his law the islands will put
their hope.
Go down to the sea, and all
that is in it,
to the islands, and all who live in
them.
The islands will look to me
and will wait in hope.
Before the Maker
that summer. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2008 5:01:23 PM | while the trees danced in the summer winds
and the greens leaves flowed in time
huge hammock swaying in the breeze
room enough for us both
your arm bracing my neck
my body
curled into you
slowly beating hearts
rhythmic metronome
shadows dancing on our faces
green leaves flowing in time
created by God
power & grace accompany
loving you into infiniti | |
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Posted: 6/25/2008 9:00:06 PM | Always know my Princess
that you were conceived in Love
and the sun will never set
on a day in which you're not Loved
Know that I am forever thankful
to be blessed to be your father
your conception is God's
validation of my life
Know that I was there
waiting anxiously to hold you
as you took your first breath
and know
that I will always be there for you forever
until my last breath
I will always fall short
of the perfection you deserve in a father
only my love will shine through
in the darkness of disappointments I have caused
I ask you not to look up to me, my daughter
but look within me
for there you will find the one thing I am sure of
the one truly unblemished thing in my life
A Fathers Love | |
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Posted: 6/25/2008 9:03:54 PM | ^^^^a most beautiful write........as are all of the rest.... | |
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