| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/19/2008 9:11:14 PM | Well the votes are in for Fisherdick and its unanimous. We have no clue on anything he has said, so lets move on. I'll tell ya, reading Fisherdick's statements is like the book "Where's Waldo". I'm searching for key words and I think its somewhere in there, but can't find it.
"Each of his last three years he was consistent 23 or more touch downs and over 3000 yards each year!"
Eli has thrown nearly the same amount of interceptions as TD's in his career and theres more to come next year. Maybe next he can split 50-50, anything is possible, right alittle Crazy (dumb). Just to be exact 77 TDs and 64 interceptions. But he's good because he won a SB....Overrated.
Brady's career has 86 interceptions and it will never catch up to his 197 TDs. However Fisherdick thinks he's overrated....I don't think so....
Eli number 1 pick overall and dictated to the Chargers, whom had the 1st pick, which team he wanted to play. Can you say "silver spoon"? With a contract 6 year $45 million with a $20 million bonus. What was his accomplishments? QB rating 73.4 and 54.7% completions. Oh don't forget a SB ring. Didn't QB's like Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and Mark Rypien have SB rings too....Overrated.
Brady 199th pick overall and had no idea which team was going to pick him. Brady was receiving a salary of $300,000 a year and on his second year (when Bledsoe got hurt) brought a SB to NE. Then 3 years after he brought 2 more. Now he is certainly getting paid for what he is worth and well earned 6 year $60 million....
Don't forget the other accomplishments:
-2 SB MVP
-50 record breaking TDs
-4 Pro bowls
-Contributed to a 21 straight wins
-16-0 season
-NFL MVP
-6 out of 7 years playoff appearances
-14-3 playoff wins
-Postseason record 16 consecutive passes 92.9%. This mark is the highest in ANY single game completion %.
-Career wins 86-26
-7-0 OT games, which Bradshaw hold the only 5-0.
-30-6 in 3-points or fewer.
-24 winning drives and 6 of them were playoffs.
And what does Eli have? His first and only SB ring....Overrated.
Next year Eli will pull the same crap and NY fans will be gnashing their teeth for trade. Giants won't be a threat next season and might make to the playoffs.
And alittle Crazy you can still remind us how the Giants beat the Pats because thats what dwellers do, they dwell. For us Pats fan we have moved on to get another SB title, which you'll never see for a long time. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/19/2008 9:35:00 PM | | Hmmm ... I may be wrong, because it was almost two months ago, but I don't recall EITHER quarterback having a particularly good game. I remember Eli Manning have an exceptional fourth quarter and I remember a New England offensive line that would have had trouble with my junior bantam squad, but great game....by EITHER QB? Come on! The best player for the first three quarters of Super Bowl XLII was Tom Petty. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/19/2008 9:59:44 PM | I remember Free falling and American Girl
I think he also did Running Down a Dream and maybe I won't back Down?
First 2 for sure, pretty sure on the third. Not so sure on the fourth
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/20/2008 12:21:38 AM | Many here have mentioned Joe Namath which is plain wrong. He had no line, no running game, and an average flanker who he turned into a superstar.
He played for the Jets, a franchise that refused to pay, had no clue how to draft... and it was a different era in football.
3 playoff wins in that era was pretty good when there was one game, then the Super Bowl.
Most overrated QB in my mind was Joe Montana. Bill Walsh made him with a dumbed down split veer offense (The west coast). He had a weak arm and lived on 5 yard passes to guys who would run for 20 more.
Montana never hit a deep out in his life. He was good in a brand new NFL offense but don't give him props for that. Remember how horrible he was when KC gave him a real offense to run? Yup. He sucked. It was the tools and the coach. Not him. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/20/2008 4:16:46 AM | Hi 1longbow,
How can you criticize Montana for being the perfect quarteback for the system that surrounded him? How can a guy get past not having the strongest arm, not being the fleetest of foot and still winning as many championships (4) Super Bowl MVPs (3) 8Pro Bowl selections, etc. Here's how - because he was a thiker and a visionary. He saw the field better than anyone else back then.
You say he never threw a deep out in his life. Hmmmm. I beg to differ, unless of course you are claiming that every one of his 55 touchdown passes to Jerry Rice were 5-yard crosses that ice somehow broke for the extra yards because of HIS blazing speed.
" Remember how horrible he was when KC gave him a real offense to run?"
OK first of all, you should be penalized for using KC and "real offense" in the same sentence. 
Second of all, Montana was 38 at the time. OF COURSE his skills were diminishing. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/20/2008 11:31:13 AM | Wiz all those stats and numbers you have wasted your time to find, what does it prove?
Numbers or stats does not win Superbowl's.
Did I ever say Eli was better than Brady?
So I am glad you are intelligent to copy and paste stats 
I think the wicked witch of the west as dulled your large protruding brain. Over and over again and again you say Eli is over rated
READ MY LIPS  Eli was never even rated up there ever, amongst other QB's
So how in the world could he be over rated. His name never came up as a great QB.
But he is still young and he will prevail. He already did when no one ever thought he would. Again how could he be over rated. If no one thought he could win a playoff game? I would like to see Manning VS Manning next year. Pats will have a very tough year and there is no way on earth they will be 16-0 again.
$500 0n that one too | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/20/2008 1:00:21 PM | "Each of his last three years he was consistent 23 or more touch downs and over 3000 yards each year!"
These were the stats you came up with, but you forgot to finish it, so I did it for you. If you are going to bring stats don't filter the information bring it all to table.
"Numbers or stats does not win Superbowl's"
Brady has 3 SB with great accomplishments to back him up.
"So I am glad you are intelligent to copy and paste stats"
This is what a 4 year old would do to reply.....I only stated facts, while your replies are rubbish.
Eli can be overrated.....Underrated....No matter what category we put him in, he still sucks! | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/20/2008 1:15:26 PM | Wiz said: Eli can be overrated.....Underrated....No matter what category we put him in, he still sucks!
Well this sucky QB Eli and the Giants D beat the undefeated Pats.... I am so tired of reminding you of this.
And as to Eli and what I said. he was consistent. But I put up the numbers because you need to read slowly to understand what I am typing.
I can not wait till football season starts again so when we see the Superbowl champs play. All will remember the road warriors. And when the Pats play. I hope there conference gives them a little challenge this year. They are the worst teams in the AFC and NFC in there division. So that's a lot of easy wins for the Pats.............Again | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/20/2008 2:14:15 PM | "And as to Eli and what I said. he was consistent."
I know I saw his stats, never impoved, stayed the same "consistent".....
"But I put up the numbers because you need to read slowly to understand what I am typing."
Are you drunk again? I already replied with that, with facts....Tu no comprenda..... | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/21/2008 1:49:41 AM | It was Bill Walsh, Prairie. Montana ran a dumbed down split veer. Every team that has a bad quarterback runs that offense now. Flood zones, plit 3 recievers at the same time with 2 defenders covering, then dump off to the halfback if the defense tries to sneak a third guy into the zone.
Eagles live on it with Westbrook. Defenses learned after the 49ers burned them for years. It's called a cover two. Montana was just lucky to show up with a great Head Coach who was frustrated by not having a decent QB so he gave him a dumbed down split veer. A brilliant idea by Bill Walsh. Took the NFL 10 years to figure it out.
KC was and is a real offense. They run standard blocking schemes and they throw downfield. That dates to when Montana was there. Proof is in the pudding. He failed miserably while Steve Young stepped in and played better than Montana did.
SF had the best O-Line in football, a great fullback in Rathman, the best wideout in Jerry Rice, and always a very elusive half back who would catch 90 passes a year from 5 yards away as 3 guys blossomed the defense in the zone up field. Give credit where it is due.
Montana was just a weak armed drone. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/21/2008 8:23:46 AM | To even consider Joe Montana to be an overrated QB I find it to be a little weird, but opinions are opinions. His stats don't show it, his SB wins don't show it, and his leadership as a 49ner never showed it. To say Montana was "a weak armed drone", he still managed to land the ball right to his receiver's arms for TDs.
If I had to consider anybody that was overrated in that era, and I would hate to say it, but it would be Dan Marino. He would jump off and on again in each season. One year good and then the next year it was awful. He was also horrible in the playoffs and its a shame he could never win the big one. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/21/2008 8:35:32 AM | Eli number 1 pick overall and dictated to the Chargers, whom had the 1st pick, which team he wanted to play. Can you say "silver spoon"? With a contract 6 year $45 million with a $20 million bonus. What was his accomplishments? QB rating 73.4 and 54.7% completions. Oh don't forget a SB ring. Didn't QB's like Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and Mark Rypien have SB rings too....Overrated.
funny u point that out is that not what john elway did also, he wes drafted by a team he did not want to play for and then threatned to go play baseball did he not,eli and elways stats are pretty similair through this part of there carrers, and i do think that they will be putting elway into the hall of fame, iam not saying eli will be a hall of famer, iam just saying time will tell, and unless u have a crystal ball u dont know .not knocking brady , i dont like him, but great is great, i bet if u asked him if he would trade in that 16-0, 16 straight completions,50 tds,and the nfl mvp for the super bowl win this past season my guess is that he would. look u cant have it both ways, if eli is overrated for his carrer then brady and the pats CHOCKED big time last year, i personally dont agree with either of those assetments, but fair is fair | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/21/2008 8:48:59 AM | "Every team that has a bad quarterback runs that offense now. "
And how many of tthose teams win 4 Super Bowls?
You may claim every team that has a bad QB runs that offence, but it takes a good QB to run that offence ... or ANY offence ... well.
And bad QBs do not throw for 40,000 yards, I don't care how many YACs were involved.
I agree that Montana did not have the strongest arm and he was not thefleetest of foot. But rarely does a QB ever come into the ranks who could read a field better, make quicker decisions and throw a more accurate "five-yard dump" than Montana. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/21/2008 8:56:36 AM | fair or not a qb sucess is measured by the super bowl ( which i think is kinda wrong ) but anyway anybody that puts the following people on the list are just idiots or haters
montana
brady
bradshaw
p. manning
favre
elway
just to keep things in prespective, the td record has been broken 3 times since the 80s, the one thing all 3 of them things have in common that players team did not win the super bowl, just pointing that out | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/21/2008 9:24:11 AM | "not knocking brady , i dont like him, but great is great, i bet if u asked him if he would trade in that 16-0, 16 straight completions,50 tds,and the nfl mvp for the super bowl win this past season my guess is that he would."
Of course he would, but do you think anything that happen last season will affect next season? No and its time to move on. When the Patriots won the other 3 SB, the next season everything they have done was not spoken about and you'll see it when the media talks about it next season. To claim the Patriots choked (chocked), if that is what you meant, is hard to believe. It was a good game on both teams and they both battled hard. Somebody had to win it and the Giant did just that. It went down to the last seconds of the game, so nobody was confident until the clock went down to 0:00 seconds.
"unless u have a crystal ball u dont know"
No I don't and I'm not a psychic. However, if you know anything about statistics I base it on the properties of contistency. I almost surely believe the numbers will stay the same based on performance. It may vary time to time, but most of the time it stays absolute. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/21/2008 9:37:42 AM | To claim the Patriots choked (chocked), if that is what you meant, is hard to believe
i did not claim that, i said that i dont agree with that , might want to read th ewhole statement. anyway my point is that if u are going to call eli overrated then people are going to say that the pats choked, i mean there were the only 18- 1 team not to win the superbowl.listen i think that there are a great team and one of if not the best org. in the game, but that does not make them bullet proof from critizsm. last i know stats dont mean as much as u do, keep in mind that the last 3 times the td record got broke them teams did not win the super bowl | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/21/2008 9:57:57 AM | In some way or another you did make that claim. You stated:
"look u cant have it both ways, if eli is overrated for his carrer then brady and the pats CHOCKED big time last year, i personally dont agree with either of those assetments, but fair is fair"
"but fair is fair"
You based it on pros and cons, which you tried to balance it out. I understood what you wrote, well that is how I interpreted it. Anyway, "3 times the td record got broke them teams did not win the super bowl", this is what you call minimum square error or inconclusive compared to other accomplishments across the board. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/21/2008 10:06:28 AM | | ok man whatever, i mean u will never see anything wrong with the pats or brady, u use the term minimum error , i mean the point is to win the superbowl not to break records, records are indivuials, sucess is team. i guess we will just let it go, just to make it clear i do not like tom brady, BUT I THINK HE IS A GREAT QB, maybe one of the best ever, so there i dont think u will be able to mis interpet that. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/21/2008 10:17:23 AM | WOW!!!! I thought we were having a serious debate. Do you want me to be a "yes man"? And just agree with every statement you make. You made good points and I certainly will not bash anything you have said compared to other statements made from other people; and at times I blame myself for scooping to their level.
Seriously I thought we were having a good debate.....Anyway, like you said "whatever". | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/22/2008 11:29:17 AM | | I am a Dallas Cowboy fan 100%, but my belief is that Tony Slomo is the most overrated quarterback of all-time. Everyone loves this guy, but come on, there's a reason he wasn't drafted. Then Jerry Jones gives him a 6 year $67 million contract? He's the ultimate choke artist in the playoffs. When a guy doesn't know when to throw the ball away and when to take a sack, he doesn't even deserve to wear a Dallas Cowboy uniform. Those are things that you learn in peewee football. I admit, having him saved my Cowboys from having to continue to put up with immobile Bledsoe, but at least Bledsoe got his team to a Superbowl once. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/23/2008 9:56:24 AM | WOW!!!! I thought we were having a serious debate. Do you want me to be a "yes man"? And just agree with every statement you make. You made good points and I certainly will not bash anything you have said compared to other statements made from other people; and at times I blame myself for scooping to their level
its only a productive debate if two sides both listen to facts and or arguments and are not blinded by there loyalities. iam not asking u to be a yes man, just open minded and willing to except that brady is not prefect and has flaws thats all | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/23/2008 2:07:28 PM | | Brett Farve by far is the most overrated overhyped QB in nfl history Favre was not a great QB. He has a special quality that has made him successful, but he is not a naturally good QB. He makes ridiculous passes that sometimes work and sometimes don't. His form and everything about him is not exactly great. He does have a desire like no other and he has a knack for making special plays. But, he is in no way, the best QB of all-time - or even close to it. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/26/2008 5:59:46 AM | | Well some of the qbs on here i don't understand but who i think is overrated is ben roethlisberger, He is big slow and worth what they paid him only reason his first 2 seasons were n e good was the team was already set up for n e average qb. and how some of u can put favre on here is crazy, his last 8 years he had to deal with average players at best he had no stars to go with him so ueah he made stupid mistakes. and i don't see any other qb starting all there games in 15 seasons. and for eli yes he has been up and down so far in his career but he is still young and everyone compares him to his brother and if u want to by stats he went to the super bowl before peyton so does that make him better. he'll probally get another ring before his brother. | |
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