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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/14/2008 7:45:14 AM | Musicmann,
That is some interesting info. you posted about Obama---a lot of it untrue, and all of it on the wrong thread. This thread is about ex-Gov. Spitzer. I'd like to hear your comments about Spitzer on this thread. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/14/2008 7:56:27 AM | Spitzer taken down by Jewish Mossad? You always have to ask, who benefits?
Eliot Spitzer took on Wall Street like no other attorney general before him. As the Washington Post reported in 2004, “His targets in the past have included everyone from big Wall Street investment banks and the $7.5 trillion mutual fund industry to polluting power plants and supermarket chains that underpaid delivery workers.”
Additionally, Wayne Madsen reports [subscription required] that “Defense sources have confirmed our March 11, 2008, report that Emperors Club VIP, the prostitution firm that entangled New York’s outgoing Governor Eliot Spitzer in a call girl ring, is viewed by US intelligence as a front for Israel’s intelligence agency, the Mossad.
“The sources claim that Spitzer was ‘outed’ for his aggressiveness in attacking money launderers connected to Russian-Israeli organized crime syndicates and other Wall Street malfeasance.”
In an earlier report, Madsen mentioned that “There is also speculation that although Spitzer was implicated in the large international investigation of the Emperor’s VIP Club’s prostitution business, GOP dirty tricks operative Roger Stone figures in the case as a collateral agent provocateur. Stone has a history of badgering Eliot Spitzer and his elderly father, New York real estate magnate Bernard Spitzer.”
Madsen went on to say, “There is also intense speculation about the identities of the other clients of the Emperor’s VIP Club call girls service. A February 5, 2006, article by Ben Smith in The New York Observer describes a close relationship between Eliot Spitzer and former Bill Clinton aide****Morris. Spitzer told the newspaper that****Morris’ dad was his dad’s lawyer. In 2006, the Democratic National Convention was shocked to learn that Morris, then Clinton’s top political consultant, paid $200 an hour to a Virginia prostitute named Sherry Rowlands. The revelations about Morris came mere hours before Clinton was to deliver his acceptance speech at the convention.
“Rowlands revealed that Morris once let her listen in on a phone conversation with Clinton. She said that Hillary Clinton was upset at the phone call, that she 'was not well,' and the president asked Morris not to use the White House private residence phone number in the future.
“Morris’ relationship with Rowlands reportedly involved toe sucking trysts on the part of Morris. The criminal complaint filed against the Emperor’s Club referred to aberrant sexual practices, considered 'unsafe,' by Spitzer and a prostitute identified as Kristen.”
Who is Kristen?
The New York Times reports in Woman at the Center of Governor’s Downfall, “She left a broken home on the Jersey Shore at 17 and came to New York City to work the nightclubs as a rhythm and blues singer. Now, at 22, she is the unwitting, and as yet unseen, star of the seamy drama that is the downfall of Gov. Eliot Spitzer of New York . . .
“Kristen, the prostitute described in a federal affidavit as having had a rendezvous with Mr. Spitzer on Feb. 13 at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, has spent the last few days in her ninth-floor apartment in the Flatiron district of Manhattan. On Monday, she made a brief appearance in federal court, where a lawyer was appointed to represent her. She is expected to be a witness in the case against four people charged with operating a prostitution ring called the Emperor’s Club V.I.P.
“In a series of telephone interviews on Tuesday night, she said she had slept very little over the past week, with all the stress of the case.
“'I just don’t want to be thought of as a monster,' the woman said as she told the tiniest tidbits of her story.
“Born Ashley Youmans but now known as Ashley Alexandra Dupré, she spoke softly and with good humor as she added with significant understatement: ‘This has been a very difficult time. It is complicated.’”
“She has not been charged. The lawyer appointed to represent her, Don D. Buchwald, told a magistrate judge in court on Monday that she had been subpoenaed to testify in a grand jury investigation. Asked to swear that she had accurately filled out and signed a financial affidavit, she responded affirmatively.
“A person with knowledge of the Emperor’s Club operation confirmed that the woman interviewed by The New York Times was the woman identified as Kristen in the affidavit. Mr. Buchwald confirmed various details of Ms. Dupré’s background but would not discuss the contents of the affidavit.
“Ms. Dupré said by telephone Tuesday night that she was worried about how she would pay her rent since the man she was living with ‘walked out on me’ after she discovered he had fathered two children. She said she was considering working at a friend’s restaurant or, once her apartment lease expires, moving back with her family in New Jersey ‘to relax.’
She did not say when she had started working for the Emperor’s Club, or how often she had liaisons arranged through the ring. Asked when she met Governor Spitzer and how many times they had seen each other, Ms. Dupré said she had no comment.
“As of Wednesday morning, Ms. Dupré’s MySpace page recounted her ‘odyssey to New York from New Jersey through North Carolina, Miami, D.C., Virginia and Austin, Texas;’ public records show that she lived in Monmouth County, N.J., in 2001, and in North Carolina in 2003. She owns a company, created in 2005, called Pasche New York, which her lawyer said was an entertainment business designed to further her singing career.
“Music is her first love, and on the MySpace page, Ms. Dupré mentions Patsy Cline, Frank Sinatra, Christina Aguilera and Lauryn Hill among a long list of influences, including her brother, Kyle. (She also lists Whitney Houston, Madonna, Mary J. Blige and Amy Winehouse as her top MySpace friends.) In the interview, she said she saw the Rolling Stones perform at Radio City Music Hall on their last tour after a friend gave her two tickets. ‘They were amazing,’ she said.
“On MySpace, her page says: ‘I am all about my music and my music is all about me. It flows from what I’ve been through, what I’ve seen and how I feel.’
“She left ‘a broken family’ at age 17, having been abused, according to the MySpace page, and has used drugs and ‘been broke and homeless.’
“’Learned what it was like to have everything and lose it, again and again,’ she writes. “’Learned what it was like to wake up one day and have the people you care about most gone.’
“’But I made it,’ she continues. ‘I’m still here and I love who I am. If I never went through the hard times, I would not be able to appreciate the good ones. Cliché, yes, but I know it’s true.’
“Ms. Dupré’s mother, Carolyn Capalbo, 46, said that after her daughter finished sophomore year in high school, Ms. Dupré moved to North Carolina. ‘She was a young kid with typical teenage rebellion issues, but we are extremely close now,’ Ms. Capalbo said in a telephone interview Wednesday.
“In 2006, Ms. Dupré changed her legal name, according to records in Monmouth County Superior Court, from Ashley R. Youmans to Ashley Rae Maika DiPietro, taking her stepfather’s surname since she regarded him as ‘the only father I have known.’ But in the interview, she referred to herself as Ashley Alexandra Dupré, which is how she is known on MySpace.
“On the Web page is a recording of what she describes as her latest track, ‘What We Want,’ a hip-hop-inflected rhythm-and-blues tune that asks, ‘Can you handle me, boy?’ and uses some dated slang, calling someone her ‘boo.’
“’I know what you want, you got what I want,’ she sings in the chorus. ‘I know what you need. Can you handle me?’
“Her MySpace biography says she started singing professionally after a musician she was living with heard her singing the Aretha Franklin hit ‘Respect’ in the shower and burst into the bathroom with his lead guitarist. She says she toured and recorded with them, then moved to Manhattan in 2004 and “spent the first two years getting to know the music scene, networking in clubs and connecting with the industry.
“’Now it’s all about my music, it’s all about expressing me.’
“In the affidavit, the woman the Emperor’s Club called Kristen is described as 'an American, petite, very pretty brunette, 5 feet 5 inches, and 105 pounds.' She apparently was booked at about $1,000 an hour, placing her in the middle of the seven-diamond scale by which the prostitutes were paid up to $4,300 an hour.
“Ms. Capalbo said that she was ‘shell-shocked’ when her daughter called in the middle of last week and told her she had been working as an escort and was now in trouble with the law. She said she was not sure that Ms. Dupré realized who Mr. Spitzer was when he was her client.
“’She is a very bright girl who can handle someone like the governor,’ Ms. Capalbo said. ‘But she also is a 22-year-old, not a 32-year-old or a 42-year-old, and she obviously got involved in something much larger than her.’”
We get the sense that what was at issue was more than a power politician’s fling with a young prostitute, but potentially explosive issues for heavy Wall Street players, the economy, the full story of 9/11, the administration, and Republican dirty tricksters. Perhaps this explains the frozen look on Spitzer’s face, seemingly scuttled in the line of duty, not just personal pleasure. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/14/2008 11:44:53 AM | The $200 billion bail-out for predator banks and Spitzer charges are intimately linked
By Greg Palast
Reporting for Air America Radio's Clout
Listen to Palast on Clout at www.GregPalast.com
While New York Governor Eliot Spitzer was paying an 'escort' $4,300 in a hotel room in Washington, just down the road, George Bush's new Federal Reserve Board Chairman, Ben Bernanke, was secretly handing over $200 billion in a tryst with mortgage bank industry speculators.
Both acts were wanton, wicked and lewd. But there's a BIG difference. The Governor was using his own checkbook. Bush's man Bernanke was using ours.
This week, Bernanke's Fed, for the first time in its history, loaned a selected coterie of banks one-fifth of a trillion dollars to guarantee these banks' mortgage-backed junk bonds. The deluge of public loot was an eye-popping windfall to the very banking predators who have brought two million families to the brink of foreclosure.
Up until Wednesday, there was one single, lonely politician who stood in the way of this creepy little assignation at the bankers' bordello: Eliot Spitzer.
Who are they kidding? Spitzer's lynching and the bankers' enriching are intimately tied.
How? Follow the money.
The press has swallowed Wall Street's line that millions of US families are about to lose their homes because they bought homes they couldn't afford or took loans too big for their wallets. Ba-LON-ey. That's blaming the victim.
Here's what happened. Since the Bush regime came to power, a new species of loan became the norm, the 'sub-prime' mortgage and it's variants including loans with teeny "introductory" interest rates. From out of nowhere, a company called 'Countrywide' became America's top mortgage lender, accounting for one in five home loans, a large chuck of these 'sub-prime.'
Here's how it worked: The Grinning Family, with US average household income, gets a $200,000 mortgage at 4% for two years. Their $955 a month payment is 25% of their income. No problem. Their banker promises them a new mortgage, again at the cheap rate, in two years. But in two years, the promise ain't worth a can of spam and the Grinnings are told to scram - because their house is now worth less than the mortgage. Now, the mortgage hits 9% or $1,609 plus fees to recover the "discount" they had for two years. Suddenly, payments equal 42% to 50% of pre-tax income. Grinnings move into their Toyota.
Now, what kind of American is 'sub-prime.' Guess. No peeking. Here's a hint: 73% of HIGH INCOME Black and Hispanic borrowers were given sub-prime loans versus 17% of similar-income Whites. Dark-skinned borrowers aren't stupid – they had no choice. They were 'steered' as it's called in the mortgage sharking business.
'Steering,' sub-prime loans with usurious kickers, fake inducements to over-borrow, called 'fraudulent conveyance' or 'predatory lending' under US law, were almost completely forbidden in the olden days (Clinton Administration and earlier) by federal regulators and state laws as nothing more than fancy loan-sharking.
But when the Bush regime took over, Countrywide and its banking brethren were told to party hardy – it was OK now to steer'm, fake'm, charge'm and take'm.
But there was this annoying party-pooper. The Attorney General of New York, Eliot Spitzer, who sued these guys to a fare-thee-well. Or tried to.
Instead of regulating the banks that had run amok, Bush's regulators went on the warpath against Spitzer and states attempting to stop predatory practices. Making an unprecedented use of the legal power of "federal pre-emption," Bush-bots ordered the states to NOT enforce their consumer protection laws.
Indeed, the feds actually filed a lawsuit to block Spitzer's investigation of ugly racial mortgage steering. Bush's banking buddies were especially steamed that Spitzer hammered bank practices across the nation using New York State laws.
Spitzer not only took on Countrywide, he took on their predatory enablers in the investment banking community. Behind Countrywide was the Mother Shark, its funder and now owner, Bank of America. Others joined the sharkfest: Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch and Citigroup's Citibank made mortgage usury their major profit centers. They did this through a bit of financial legerdemain called "securitization."
What that means is that they took a bunch of junk mortgages, like the Grinnings, loans about to go down the toilet and re-packaged them into "tranches" of bonds which were stamped "AAA" - top grade - by bond rating agencies. These gold-painted turds were sold as sparkling safe investments to US school district pension funds and town governments in Finland (really).
When the housing bubble burst and the paint flaked off, investors were left with the poop and the bankers were left with bonuses. Countrywide's top man, Angelo Mozilo, will 'earn' a $77 million buy-out bonus this year on top of the $656 million - over half a billion dollars – he pulled in from 1998 through 2007.
But there were rumblings that the party would soon be over. Angry regulators, burned investors and the weight of millions of homes about to be boarded up were causing the sharks to sink. Countrywide's stock was down 50%, and Citigroup was off 38%, not pleasing to the Gulf sheiks who now control its biggest share blocks.
Then, on Wednesday of this week, the unthinkable happened. Carlyle Capital went bankrupt. Who? That's Carlyle as in Carlyle Group. James Baker, Senior Counsel. Notable partners, former and past: George Bush, the Bin Laden family and more dictators, potentates, pirates and presidents than you can count.
The Fed had to act. Bernanke opened the vault and dumped $200 billion on the poor little suffering bankers. They got the public treasure – and got to keep the Grinning's house. There was no 'quid' of a foreclosure moratorium for the 'pro quo' of public bail-out. Not one family was saved – but not one banker was left behind.
Every mortgage sharking operation shot up in value. Mozilo's Countrywide stock rose 17% in one day. The Citi sheiks saw their company's stock rise $10 billion in an afternoon.
And that very same day the bail-out was decided – what a coinkydink! – the man called, 'The Sheriff of Wall Street' was cuffed. Spitzer was silenced.
Do I believe the banks called Justice and said, "Take him down today!" Naw, that's not how the system works. But the big players knew that unless Spitzer was taken out, he would create enough ruckus to spoil the party. Headlines in the financial press – one was "Wall Street Declares War on Spitzer" - made clear to Bush's enforcers at Justice who their number one target should be. And it wasn't Bin Laden.
It was the night of February 13 when Spitzer made the bone-headed choice to order take-out in his Washington Hotel room. He had just finished signing these words for the Washington Post about predatory loans:
"Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which he federal government was turning a blind eye."
Bush, said Spitzer right in the headline, was the "Predator Lenders' Partner in Crime." The President, said Spitzer, was a fugitive from justice. And Spitzer was in Washington to launch a campaign to take on the Bush regime and the biggest financial powers on the planet.
Spitzer wrote, "When history tells the story of the subprime lending crisis and recounts its devastating effects on the lives of so many innocent homeowners the Bush administration will not be judged favorably."
But now, the Administration can rest assured that this love story – of Bush and his bankers - will not be told by history at all – now that the Sheriff of Wall Street has fallen on his own gun.
A note on "Prosecutorial Indiscretion."
Back in the day when I was an investigator of racketeers for government, the federal prosecutor I was assisting was deciding whether to launch a case based on his negotiations for airtime with 60 Minutes. I'm not allowed to tell you the prosecutor's name, but I want to mention he was recently seen shouting, "Florida is Rudi country! Florida is Rudi country!"
Not all crimes lead to federal bust or even public exposure. It's up to something called "prosecutorial discretion."
Funny thing, this 'discretion.' For example, Senator David Vitter, Republican of Louisiana, paid Washington DC prostitutes to put him diapers (ewww!), yet the Senator was not exposed by the US prosecutors busting the pimp-ring that pampered him.
Naming and shaming and ruining Spitzer – rarely done in these cases - was made at the 'discretion' of Bush's Justice Department.
Or maybe we should say, 'indiscretion.' | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/14/2008 12:48:20 PM | Musicmann has been signed up here since 4/6/2007. He states he's an ex troop (retired army).. he's posted on 2 days, the same exact 2 messages, to multiple threads.
Something seems amiss.
You ok Musicmann ? | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/15/2008 12:59:26 AM | Don't listen to him. She's beautiful, and has a beautiful voice, too.
No. The $4,300.00-a-night prostitute who took Spitzer down is not beautiful. She's an average-looking girl. A little greasy-looking. A little smarmy. Buck teeth like Bugs Bunny. Spitzer could have gone to Online Booty Call and gotten a better-looking chick than Kristen-----for FREE.
What Spitzer did doesn't make sense. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/15/2008 5:09:52 AM | Looks like the messages here are all over the place. IMHO it goes like this:
Democrat / Republican doesn't make a difference. How good looking she is or the price she was worth means nothing. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and value is based on the amount a buyer is willing to pay. He could afford it.
Why men go to Hookers?
1.) Sex without a relationship.... Not my cup of tea but, be thankful he can and does just go out an pay for it rather than involve a willing party who becomes attached only to be hurt later.
2.) Known outcome at a fixed price....... The buyer saves the unknown investment of a date that may not produce the desired outcome. (Remember his desire is serve a need, again be thankful he didn't waste your time and spared your emotions)
3.) Fulfill sexual fantasies...... The girl(s) are sex workers. He doesn't have to be ashamed to ask them to dress up like mom and hang from the ceiling upside down and spank him with a toilet brush if he so desires.
Mind you..... none of these things make it right or wrong. That gets defined on a personal level based on your beliefs and morals.
What made it wrong for him to do it (as well as any other elected official):
As a public official it made him vulnerable to a number of security issues, created the potential for favoritism and influence of his position in office. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/15/2008 5:47:12 AM | Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Spitzer was on the Republican personal and political hit list when he openly condemned the bush administration, well plus he is a democrat. Quite a few of his predictions about our failing economy have come true. So Spitzer was stupid for getting caught up in this sting. To bad more of our leaders don't realize that when they hold a public office they have to keep there noses super clean.
They have to be sure to bone crush all of the skeletons in their closets. Otherwise the moment they are under scrutiny their entire life will be picked apart, picked into tiny little pieces and scrutinized.
Spitzer should have kept his dirty little nose a bit more cleaner....should have known better than to think he would get away with paying for hookers. Well, I did like what the man stood for, but now all of his good work is meaningless cause he paid for sex. Damn, why can't men think with their brain, (and stop thinking about getting brain:) oops, i'm being naughty. ok, ok
pooor, pooor spitzer.
There will be more dirt and extremely shocking stories coming out pretty soon on a few more democrats the closer we get to the presidential elections.
The republicans are on a rampage.
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/15/2008 9:44:02 AM | Guitar Fingers makes some sense. That explains the preference specifically for a hooker----except for the glaring fact that it's against the law. You have to chalk Spitzer's disregard of the law up to hubris. He apparently thought he could avoid getting caught.
My opinion is that anything you can get from a sex worker, you can get from a regular woman if you know how to screen them. I could be wrong, though. I'm not planning on finding out. Prostitutes are skanks and cum-dumpsters. They are damaged alcoholics and drug abusers who usually had rough upbringings. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/15/2008 12:49:53 PM | Is it not against to the law to lie to the American public when in office. Lies that have cuased war, death destruction and complete travesty to the economy.
Is it not against the law to break countless constitutional laws?
Is it not against the law to eavesdrop on peoples communications?
Is it not against the law to sign treaty's that allow foreign troops into American soil.
The list of broken laws is countless....
Man, what Spitzer has done is baby's play compared to the present administration that is destroying America the Great. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/15/2008 1:02:55 PM |
Man, what Spitzer has done is baby's play compared to the present administration that is destroying America the Great
This guy is typical of the **stards destroying America, and is just as bad as the Bushkyites. He held himself up above us peons, spending our own tax money to imprison the lowly populace for doing the very things it was apparently OK for him to do (by nature of his "noble office," I assume.) That's the very definition of tyrant in my book. May he rot.
Spitzer Caught in His Own Reign of Terror
http://www.lewrockwell.com/tucker/tucker94.html
^^ That pretty well sums up my feelings on the guy. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/15/2008 10:40:53 PM | Check out this video from Larry King where he interviews a supposed former pimp and escort from "NY Confidential", one of the 7-8 escort services that Eliot Spitzer took down. The ex-pimp says Ashley brought them in $2,000/hour with 3 to 5 hour minimums, but he lost touch with her after his business was busted and he spent time in JAIL. He said he knew it was karma when he heard what happened to the governor.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/14/kristen.music.ap/index.html?iref=werecommend#cnnSTCVideo | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/16/2008 6:58:28 AM | ^^Yeah, the ex-pimp was really schlepping for Ashley ("Kristen"). You would have thought he was her agent or something. He should ask Ashley for a percentage of her future earnings.  | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/16/2008 8:38:01 AM | | Yeah, so . Politicians have been screwing hookers ( and the rest of us) for years.what did you expect? It's happened countless times before and will continue for.... | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/16/2008 11:37:11 AM | Speaking of dogs, anybody with ears the size of "Spritzer's" (sic) should have to pay double.
OTOH, I'll bet Ashley found them to be a useful steering/aiming device. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/28/2008 10:36:41 AM | Eliot Spitzer got a lot more action than just Ashley. Here's the story about another prostitution service that Spitzer used. Apparently, he boned the madam herself, Kristen Davis:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03272008/news/regionalnews/and_there_he_hos_again_103741.htm | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 3/28/2008 10:35:09 PM | Can someone tell me why it is always a party issue,the way I see it.Both parties cunsist of men,who are not immune in any way to corruption,so it should be no surprise that there is corruption on both sides as well as hypocracy.The main problem isn't that he slept with a prostitute,though it's a hell of a thing to do to his wife,apparently unprotected,according to reports,I won't vouch for that due to the nature of the media.
But even so,condems break.What if he gave his wife something she can't get rid of.Whether he did or not,hard to deny that was a risk.
The issue was that he used taxpayer money to pay for it, after presenting himself as this squeaky clean Moral crusader.From what I've heard,he went after a local garage owner because he wouldnt turn over his garage to be used as a base for a sting operation.it was a small shop,and closing that long would have been a financial strain.
No surprise that when the owner was interviewed,he said the guy had it coming.this was abc,not fox.
The kicker is that it was an investigation that he ordered thad brought the whole thing to light.at least according to news reports.
As for the Stereotypes,Republican steal,democrats have sex scandals.Please get real,both parties do both. and quite frankly,it is getting old.I'am neither,and I'm constantly called a left winger lib, if i disagree with a republican or agree with a democrat and a neo con,right wing fanatic and so no when I do the opposite.As well I also know people in both partise who while they vote on party lines,tell me that their partie isnt doing what they need toin this matter or that.Stereotypes are messed up,whether racial,national,political religious are otherwise. Ya'll should all know better. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 4/10/2008 7:47:53 AM | fukked up thats for sure. especially shutting down other prositution rings then being busted for one. he was this tough guy who wall street hated coz he was tough on them then found out to be guilty of what he was trying to shut down..
sucks to be him.
if he took care of his business and was likeable and found of the same thing it wouldnt'v been too much of a big deal.
Kwame (detroit mayor) is even worse. he should quit and be imprisoned. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 4/10/2008 9:52:59 AM | Not too long ago I happened to read a news story about how government workers are using government credit cards to pay for 'personal perks'. Currently about half of what we the public earn goes for taxes in one form or another so for me it's somewhat disappointing whenever I hear about our tax dollars being spent on something inappropriate. Does it bother me to learn some elected officials are immoral ? Not really since many get where they are by bending, manipulating or disguising the truth.
Do I care that elected officials engage in behaviors that are illegal in the books but actually fall into some grey area of a victimless crime ? Not really because many of these 'crimes' shouldn't be crimes in the first place. However when these officials who make the laws break them on our hard earned dollars while much imporvement is needed then I've got issue with that. So I'm glad he got caught and I hope others get busted as well. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 4/10/2008 1:49:18 PM | | It was smart for David Paterson (Spitzer's successor) to come out and admit his peccadilloes upfront. That's what will get a politician through if he has dirt in his past. Give an interview and lay it all on the table. People can stomach a dirty past, unless a guy waits for the media to expose him or he lies about what he's done. Spitzer waited for the media to find out first, and then it was too late for him. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 4/10/2008 3:39:18 PM | | I don't think is quite fair to compare the two cases. In any case, Paterson came out only because he knew in his new position, that it would come out sooner or later so he was just playing it safe & smart...he gets no medals though. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 4:14:29 PM |
It was smart for David Paterson (Spitzer's successor) to come out and admit his peccadilloes upfront. That's what will get a politician through if he has dirt in his past. Give an interview and lay it all on the table. People can stomach a dirty past, unless a guy waits for the media to expose him or he lies about what he's done. Spitzer waited for the media to find out first, and then it was too late for him.
Maybe all politicians should go on Howard Stern and get grilled before they take office. He wasn't able to get any stuff out of Arnold before he became Governator though. Howard kept asking him if he got any nookie from that hot lady terminator in T3, but Arnold just kept saying that he was a happily married man. Howard should have gotten out the polygraph! | |
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Posted: 4/11/2008 8:04:35 AM | | Arnold definitely has some dirt in his past, but like Paterson (and unlike Spitzer) Arnold was honest about his foibles before election day. Arnold was forgiven for that stuff. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 4/16/2008 12:27:14 AM | | He's a cheater plain and simple, a selfish man who has concept of what loyalty is. He degrades the sanctity of marriage, his wife, and children and parades around with a smirk on his face with no remorse for what he's done. His wife has no self respect or she'd dump him. The whore he was with is whining about how hard the entire situation is on her. She chose her profession. No sympathy for her here. | |
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| Gov.Eliot Spitzer in Prostitution Sting
Posted: 4/16/2008 4:16:51 AM | Makes me wonder what are the wives of these cheating men doing while they wait night after night for hubby to come home??? Hmmmnn.......!!! Do they sit alone keeping dinner ready? Perhaps some women do....but I think others may have their own "extracurricular
activities". Wouldn't it be a scream for a married couple to accidentally run into each other at a motel/hotel with their respective "escorts"?  | |
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