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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/4/2008 11:21:41 PM |
If Prostituion was legal , hmmmmm i envision a lot of stay at home women suddenly becoming part of the workforce , and a lot of the woman in the workforce would switch jobs so they could make the big bucks ,
That started happening when the internet became commercialized. The vast majority of women in the 300/hr range are single moms.
welfare lines would all but dissapear due to tax revenues coming in .... but would def change the come home greeting , it would change from " how was your day " to " how many today "
You assume that her SO actually knows. You would be surprised at how many husbands are so oblivious to what their wives do that they don't even suspect their wives are escorts during the day while hubby is at work. (That ought to clue in a few guys to pay more attention to their wives so their wives don't find someone else to pay attention t them - as a career.) | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/4/2008 11:25:39 PM |
but because they prefer a loving, 'real' relationship to paid, casual sex.
And sometimes one would prefer to avoid a ``real'' relationship, in which case the right thing to do is ensure you aren't leading someone on just for sex. With an escort, the terms are clear up front. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/4/2008 11:51:34 PM | Prostitution is legal tho not every ware
I do not believe in states countries and cultures where it is accepted their is much if any change in the social dynamic or the nature of sexual congress in a romantic relationship.
Your postulation is representative of the American egocentric tendency to assume our laws and values system tend to be accepted every ware.
Prostitution is legal in Nevada and was on the ballet for legal status in the November election in one of the new england states.
"What countries have legal prostitution?"
It would be easier to ask which countries is it illegal in, that would be a very short list, with mainly the U.S. were consenting adult sexual rights are denied.
Prostitution is LEGAL (with some restrictions that aren't that bad) in Canada, most all of Europe including England, France, Wales, Denmark, Holland, etc., most of South America including most of Mexico (often in special zones), Israel (Tel Aviv known as the brothel capital of the world), Australia, and many other countries. It is either legal or very tolerated in most all of Asia and even Iran has "temporary wives" which can be for only a few hours! New Zealand passed in 2003 one of the most comprehensive decriminalization acts which even made street hookers legal which is causing many concerns.
If your partner feels your likely to utilize the services of a prostitute if they do not satisfy your needs they are either re leaved or would kick you to the curb just like in the rest of the world.    | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/5/2008 5:30:37 AM | First of all, I would concider dating golddiggers and moneymarriages as illegal.
I dont know why only prostitution is illegal, cause prostitution is just honest and straight to the point.
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/5/2008 8:57:04 AM | 'some people think that marriage is a form of legalised prostitution."
I heared that marriage is a contract trading mans human rights to a woman.
I think thats a bit harsh but funny. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 7:52:07 AM | (aligirl1967) Well my thoughts are that you can go right ahead and sit around and talk to your hooker about the shitty day you had at work...
Meh. Talking's overrated. Trust me, when a guy wants to attain sexual release, he is NOT thinking about his day at work.
, you can have them bear your children, perhaps take them home to Mom and Dad at Christmas and have a nice turkey dinner with them...
With respect, these are totally silly objections. Fact is, this is a very attractive idea for many (mostly men) for precisely those reasons. Having sex without having to map out your entire life from that point on? Heck, sign ME up!
Would it impact the dating dynamic? I believe that it would, and very profoundly. At the root of it, guys date for (eventual) sexual relations: if sexual relations were available outside of dating, many, MANY men would avail themselves of it, and leave the dating pool, either temporarily or permanently. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 9:36:49 AM | Many women enjoy sex too, but are choosy because they are aware that they have to speak to the guy and may become pregnant. Post menopause because regular sex can get better with a partner who takes time to get to know a woman and is there without a hunt that may or may not be productive!!!
I think there is a relationship with shopping - a man will go into a shop and be happy with the first item on his list he comes across. A woman will have to go to all the shops and then return to the first only to find it has sold out! A generalisation as I hate shopping:
Men sell love to get sex, women sell sex to get love - men are sperm and women are eggs. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 9:53:06 AM |
if sexual relations were available outside of dating, many, MANY men would avail themselves of it, and leave the dating pool, either temporarily or permanently.
they are now..you live in Ottawa? cruise the Market area, you can find pros out there..I've seen them before, unless there are women that "like to" stand in the cold for hours waiting for a ride that never comes, but talking to every car driver that stops by..and taking off for 15 mins. with 'some' of them'..or Richmond Rd. West? (at least when I was in Ottawa I saw that)..but I also saw a cop 'sting' operation happening there too. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 10:09:24 AM | ^ I agree...or go to Hull, on or around Eddy St.....they're all over the place.
Prostitution is NOT illegal in Canada, soliciting is...yeah yeah I know ...it's a fine line, but it's a line just the same.
And no, the legalization of prostitution (which I'm for by the way) will not change the dating dynamics IMO.
People who smoke pot smoke it whether it's legal or not, same goes for people who speed, or run red lights, or who drink while driving or underage ( and people still drank during prohibition), who gambled before gambling was made legal, or who rob, steal, cheat on their taxes, etc...etc..
I mean , gimme a break...the day that I'm supposed to swallow that the LAW has anything to do with how a person behaves is the day I will retire my brain. Like okay...no one is EVER caught speeding or driving while under the the influence or smoking a joint because it's illegal.....hmmm......yeah riiiiiight.
And I'm Angelina:)
JMO
\/ In the case of marijuana only, I tend to think that perhaps yes, more people would use it because to me, pot is a harmless substance which unfortunately gets the same classification as other harsher substances.
But if cocaine, heroine, meth, crack. etc. suddenly became legal, does anyone honestly believe that there would be a huge increase in the amount of users who waited for it to become legal before choosing to become addicts?
Same thing goes for prostitution...after the initial rush to see what it's all about if it was to suddenly become legal, everything would go back to "normal"....with the approx. same amount of people using this service as before IMO.
It scares me to think that some people seem to rely on the law or the government or some religious group to tell them what their own conscience or moral compass should be telling them...just because something is legal (or illegal), it doesn't make something right or wrong.
After all, it was once within someone's legal right to demand that black people sit at the back of the bus and not drink for their fountains!!!!!
And up until just a few years ago, there were no (or very few) laws in place that protected children for the abuse inflicted by their parents/caregivers!!!
Does that mean that just because the law said it was okay to do those things or that there were no laws against them that it was morally okay to do those things??? WTH???
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 10:13:38 AM | ^^
good point, e.g. if they made marijuana legal, would "THAT" many more people use it, than do now?
I doubt it, the reason many people don't now is simply health reasons, etc. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 10:17:26 AM | ^^^^^
Soliciting in public is illegal. Solicitation on the internet and in print is still legal. Most escorts in Canada are very good at discretion and won't attract attention unless they are stupid or careless. Making public solicitation illegal is done purely to get these girls off the street. If it's all done privately, the cops really don't care. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 12:14:06 PM |
(compleat man) they are now..you live in Ottawa? cruise the Market area, you can find pros out there..I've seen them before, unless there are women that "like to" stand in the cold for hours waiting for a ride that never comes, but talking to every car driver that stops by..and taking off for 15 mins. with 'some' of them'..or Richmond Rd. West? (at least when I was in Ottawa I saw that)..but I also saw a cop 'sting' operation happening there too.
Yes, I'm aware of the "red-light" districts. I'm also aware that the police have a semi-regular sting operation in that, and other "red-light" districts. And, did you know that counselling an illegal act is, in itself, illegal? (just funnin' wit' ya!)
While prostitutes are already available, making prostitution and solicitation legal, are what I'm referring to. Removing the stigma of illegality and shadiness associated with it would, IMO, have a HUGE impact on dating, for both men and women. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 12:17:24 PM | (oldsoul) I mean , gimme a break...the day that I'm supposed to swallow that the LAW has anything to do with how a person behaves is the day I will retire my brain.
Better apply for benefits, then! (just teasin'!)
Seriously, whether you think this or that law is ill-advised, you CAN still be arrested for flouting it. There ARE some men who shy away from the possible consequences of solicitation, regardless of how unlikely prosecution is. You may have a 99.99% chance of "getting away" with solicitation, for example: but, if you're that 0.01%, rotsa ruck. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 12:41:03 PM |
There ARE some men who shy away from the possible consequences of solicitation, regardless of how unlikely prosecution is.
I would think that WORSE possible consequences than the law's 'punishment' could include:
1- getting beaten or knifed; ripped off for your money, by her and/or her pimp(s)
2- catching a disease from her
3- having people know that you frequent prostitutes..If you subsequently Do want to have a relationship with a woman, I'm fairly sure that most would 'not be impressed' with the fact that you had frequented prostitutes
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 1:22:30 PM |
And, did you know that counselling an illegal act is, in itself, illegal? (just funnin' wit' ya!)
Depends on what you mean by ``counseling.'' In this case, I can't imagine how that could even be possible.
Removing the stigma of illegality and shadiness associated with it would, IMO, have a HUGE impact on dating, for both men and women.
It sure would. The cost for a prostitute would drop and guys would have to ask themselves, ``Do I want to pay $100.00 to get laid or go out to dinner?'' Eventually, all women would charge for dates, which would only formalize the way dating happens already and make it clear up front. They could add a place in the profiles here for a rate.
Seriously, whether you think this or that law is ill-advised, you CAN still be arrested for flouting it. There ARE some men who shy away from the possible consequences of solicitation, regardless of how unlikely prosecution is. You may have a 99.99% chance of "getting away" with solicitation, for example: but, if you're that 0.01%, rotsa ruck.
In the US, guys really only have a risj of arrest if they solicit a streetwalker, but lots of guys who solicit streetwalkers, do it for exactly that thrill in the risk of being arrested. Getting arrested in a sting set up as an incall is probably less likely than being hit by lightning. The risk for the women is higher. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 1:35:46 PM | | Then I would buy myself two guys for a £ and make them do all gross things like eating my toenails............... | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 1:59:30 PM |
Then I would buy myself two guys for a £ and make them do all gross things like eating my toenails..
Why? You could put an ad in the personals and find guys who would pay you for that. Some guys pay for really weird shit. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 3:07:42 PM |
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good point, e.g. if they made marijuana legal, would "THAT" many more people use it, than do now?
I doubt it, the reason many people don't now is simply health reasons, etc.
Exactly. I recently relocated to a state where pot is simply a low-priority issue. Anything under an ounce in certain cities is a $100.00 fine. If you have a permit, you can grow up to 18 plants and smoke at will (as long as you are in possession of your permit.) I personally, have never had an interest, don't want it around me personally and have no interest in learning to even like it or tolerate it in my area. What someone else does is none of my business ~ it's not my thing.
~OT~ I went to college in Nevada. Although it's illegal in certain areas, it's certainly NOT illegal everywhere. (It's conveniently illegal until you are right outside city limits of certain cities.) I had no problem with it when I was in my 20's, I have no issue with it today. I think it should be legalized. It's happening, it's been happening for centuries, it will continue happening. To think that some verbage in a few law books will make this go away is simply too poly-annaish to fathom (for me.) As a tax-payer, I'm sick of the frivolous prosections that happen constantly for things such as this. What a waste of time, money, and public resources. In today's economy, they may have to legalize it to lower the unemployment rate.  | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 3:47:05 PM | | Most women in the USA are prostitutes. If you dont believe me,quit your job and see how long they stick around. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 4:04:15 PM | It is legal in 21st Century Australia. In the fities and sixties when prostitution was illegal organised crime ran it. There is still some illegality, for instance, Asian women are smuggled into Australia and forced to prostitute themselves to pay back loans given to them for the airfare by organised Asian crime gangs. But it is by no means a widespread problem.
Too many police were corrupted in the 50s and 60s by the criminalisation of the profession anyway.
Young men with raging libidos don't line up at prostitutes doors. It's usually old men and not old men smart enough to know that buying sex to relieve an emotional deficit is like eating a packet of sweets to cure hunger. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/6/2008 4:26:15 PM |
Most women in the USA are prostitutes. If you dont believe me,quit your job and see how long they stick around.
A woman is a prostitute for wanting a man who works and supports himself like SHE does? Really?
Interesting.
Or did you just have this sudden urge (and opportunity) to call ALL ...oups sorry... ** MOST**... women prostitutes?
Does *most* women include your mother or grand-mother too? What about your sisters, cousins and aunts? Are they prostitutes also or are they somehow spared from the misogyny and hatred of that ugly statement up there?
I'm all for the legalization of prostitution but I will ALWAYS stand up against sexism and hatred and bigotry. And no one calls my mother, my daughters, my granddaughter or my friends a whore and expect me to not call them out on it. 
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
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